>> you won this sunday. have a good one. a good day to you from msnbc world headquarters in new york. so much to tell you about, the coronavirus outbreak this hour. there's new information about testing, a big change ahead for people on board a cruise ship and new concern about how bad this could get. >> we're seeing community spread. it's our responsibility to protect the vulnerable. i mean right now, not wait until things get worse. >> what the outbreak could mean for your money. a big picture view from a former obama economic adviser. major endorsements for the 2020 candidates and a big push for african-american voters. who is saying i do with two days before mini super tuesday. >> i am, with great enthusiasm, going to endorse joe biden. >> i think we got a great shot

in michigan, to win in washington, maybe some other states as well. we begin with breaking news. the new word on the coronavirus outbreak from the director of the national institute of allergy and infectious diseases. take a listen, everyone. >> we're having, obviously, an acceleration of cases now. if you look at it, every day we get more and more. we have around 350, probably close to 400 if it isn't there. we have at least 18 deaths. they keep coming on every day that goes by. what we're seeing is what is called community spread in certain regions of the country, particularly in the area of washington state, seattle. >> it's already there. the last count is 466. we will confirm that in this hour. all of this as the coronavirus cruise ship off the coast of california will now be docking tomorrow after being held at sea for days. a live report from that scene in a moment. we start in iran. that's where 49 people have died

from coronavirus in less than 24 hours. that is according to the iran's ministry of health. in the same amount of time, iran confirmed, 743 new cases of the virus in the last 24 hours there. a quarter of italy's population is on lockdown. the italian government closing off the lombardi region as well as 14 other provinces in the north, including venice and milan. pope francis taking precautions this morning, live streaming sunday service to prevent crowds from gathering in vatican city. the total number of confirmed cases in u.s. is at 466. that's across 32 states in addition to washington, d.c. that includes those 21 people on the grand princess, the nationwide death toll is 19. we have a team of reporters covering all angles. shannon is following the

president in presiden president. scott, we will start with you at the port of oakland. tell us why it has to do with the grand princess ship. it's scheduled to make its way toward you sometime tomorrow? >> reporter: that is correct. remember that the president said he was not a fan of taking people off of the ship at all. health officials have decided that it really is not an option to keep them on board the ship. what is about to unfold here in oakland is quite the logistical feat. getting 3,500 people off a cruise ship on a normal day is a feat in itself. instead of being at their normal port, the cruise ship terminal in san francisco, they will come here to oakland. they will have to separate them out. the people who are from california will be sent to isolation facilities here in california. people from other states will be sent to other states.

people who have health issues already will be sent for treatment. and not addressed, people from other countries, 50 or so nationalities represented on this cruise. they will then all go into some form of quarantine for the next couple of weeks. the cruise industry is really taking stock. if you are someone who likes to go on cruises, has a cruise planned, if this hasn't gotten to you already, officials are saying you may want to give it another thought. >> if you are a person with an underlying condition and you are particularly an elderly person with an underlying condition, think twice about getting on a plane on a long trip. not only think twice, just don't get on a cruise ship. >> reporter: the cruise industry is trying to take some steps to, i guess, mitigate this. vice-president pence met with leaders of the industry in florida yesterday. they are talking about new procedures for screen, new

procedures for isolating passengers that do fall ill. but there is quite a bit now to think about for the cruise industry and for travel as a whole as a result of what's going on here. >> scott, quick, i just want you to reiterate, every person on board that ship, once it docks in oakland, goes into some form of quarantine depending on where they are from, what state, but we don't know about the international passengers? >> reporter: that's our understanding. again, it's about 2,400 passengers, 1,100 crew. they are all going to have to be addressed in some form or another. it's not like a normal cruise disembarkment where you go your separate ways. they have to coordinate this. that's why they moved it to here at the port of oakland and why they have delayed it until tomorrow. >> this is a logistics nightmare. thank you so much. new numbers today on the amount of coronavirus tests available in the u.s.

>> here is what people should know about the testing. they should know we have 75,000 tests available right now for folks. by early next week, tomorrow, we should have over 2 million tests available. by the end of the week through partnership with private industry, over 4 million tests available. the most important number to the american people is one. they want to know if i go in, can i get a test? up with thing i heard -- i have been to georgia, florida, connecticut in the past week, is that no public health doctor who has asked for a test has not been able to get a test. >> we have more on this. the administration is ramping up production for the covid-19 test. what's the white house saying about what comes next? >> reporter: things are going to look different when the tests get out here. that's what public health officials have been warning about. there's been about 5,800 people tests the fda said yesterday. of all the cases, there's only 5,800 tests.

once you get a million tests in the community like they are expecting next week, logic suggests that that number of cases is going to go way up. that's going to change the dynamic and the way this country looks in many ways. when the head infectious disease expert at the nih was asked if we could be heading to a scenario like italy where you have the country, large parts, almost on lockdown, here is what he had to say. >> could you see a situation -- a lot of talk about seattle and what's going on there -- where a city is shut down or a state or a region is hut down ashut down say, nobody in, nobody out? >> it's possible. what you need to do on real time basis -- that's the reason why we evaluate it literally every single day -- you don't want to alarm people. but given the spread we have seen, anything is possible. >> reporter: now that's a much different message than we have been hearing from the president. that's frustrating officials

within the white house have toeltold us they feel there's a disconnect what public health officials are saying and what the president is saying, who continues to urge this element of calm and caution. the president's most recent statement, he tweeted today saying that the white house has a perfectly coordinated plan. everyone is united. he essentially blamed the, quote, fake news for making it look like anything other than a perfect situation, saying the news media is the one making this situation look bad. a different message coming from the president. as i said, once the tests get out on the market, the numbers may speak for themselves and page a picture that's hard for this administration to admit does not show a quickly spreading virus in this instance. >> thank you so much for that. this morning, coronavirus task force member dr. fouchi talked about his plan for the grand princess. >> i recommended strongly in our

meetings we get those people off that ship. we don't want to have a repeat of what we saw at the diamond princess where the ship became almost a hot spot of transmission. i feel strongly about getting them off there and getting them under the appropriate quarantine and/or care. >> we will turn now to caley who is stranded aboard the grand princess. welcome to you. how are you holding up? >> i'm doing okay right now. we're just awaiting for more news and waiting to see where we are headed off to in oakland. >> you know you are going to oakland. the information flow, how are you getting information? is the captain telling you over loudspeakers like we heard him doing yesterday? >> yeah, over the p.a. he is making announcements every four hours. >> do you know what happens to you tomorrow, once the ship docks in oakland? >> i have no idea yet. they have yet to say. they said first they are going

to deal with people who are critically ill and not as good situation. i don't think i'm among those folks. after, they are going to deal with the rest of the passengers. >> can i ask you where you live, what state you live in? >> california. >> you do live in california. there has been reports -- i don't know this 100% for sure that we do have nbc news working to 100% confirm this, that the theory is if you are from the state of california, you will go into an area of quarantine in san francisco. they try to keep people local. i'm just giving that to you. i'm sure you will get the official word from the ship's captain, if not other officials at some point soon. just so you know that. i'm sure you have a lot of questions. >> yeah. >> do you know of other people on board that risk, elderly people around you? have you beenrooms. we are able to go out on the balcony and talk to other folks

on the balcony. everyone around us seems like they are in good condition. they seem pretty much healthy. i know there is the one woman with the stage four cancer. i hope that she does get the care she needs. i do know there's probably other passengers who are really ill. i hope they get to the hospital soon and off this boat especially. >> yeah. i think we all are echoing those sentiments. conditions are like what for you? your room looks lovely. are you being fed properly? how does that work? how are you getting food if you can't leave your cabin? >> they knock on the door this morning and there's a tray and we had eggs and potatoes and yogurt and papaya and orange juice, glass of milk and a bottle of water to share. they have been bringing us water -- bottles of water every meal.

they knock on the door a bunch of times until you open your door and grab your food. >> you know, i so appreciate your smile through this. you have what seems like a really upbeat spirit. how are you really doing? >> i am a bit nervous because i'm going to miss a couple weeks of school, obviously. i'm a junior in high school. that's the most stressful year. i'm not too worried about me getting sick, because i'm fairly healthy. obviously, that still is in the back of my mind. i am trying to stay as optimistic as i can. it's definitely a very stressful situation. it's hard not knowing all the information yet and not knowing what i have in store for me. >> i can imagine. i'm sure you have a computer with you, because i don't know anybody your age who doesn't have a computer attached to you. are you able, since you have missed school, are you able to

go online and help with your schoolwork? are you falling behind? >> i'm not that far behind. i could probably get caught up today if i really had to. the wi-fi works pretty well here. most of my assignments are online anyway. yeah, i'm not too worried about it. i talked to all of my teachers. they are super accommodating. they say best of luck. i'm sorry you are in this situation. >> yeah. i'm sure we echo that. best of luck. so sorry you are in this situation. i have a good sense you are going to come out of this just fine. thank you so much and good luck. all right? take care. >> thank you. joining me now is a chief medical officer and an emergency physician. thank you for being here. anything you heard about that young passenger who is stuck on board that ship, is there anything you heard from her that causes alarm for you? do you get the sense things are

progressing as they should? >> as far as her, it looks like things are progressing as they should. with children, they usually will have minimal symptoms or a lot less symptoms than the elderly. we are learning about that as we get more cases. as far as we are seeing, it looks like she's in good spirits, which is the most important thing. >> absolutely. lots of questions. i'm sure you are aware of the online chatter about all of this. questions about transmission for people who are nervous about getting this virus. i want to get through a few of them here. we know you can get them passed from a person, but can you get coronavirus, covid-19, from an animal, a pet? >> the way you would get it from a pet is not that the pet is infected. it would be if you infect your hands, cough on your hand, pet the pet and somebody else pets the pet and gets that. when you pet a pet, sometimes you rub your eyes, touch your

mouth. that's how you would get the infection. >> what about food? can you get the virus from food? >> as far as we know, the food itself will not give you covid-19 or coronavirus. the person handling the food. it's somebody who has it on their hands, handle it inappropriately, passes it on and you put that in your mouth. then you get the infection. >> considering this is a virus and people who know about viruses know you can get a cold and you will get a cold and another cold and the flu and get it again. how about this? if you get it and you recover, can you get it a second time? >> currently, we don't have that information. it's very likely that you can get it again. most likely, you will have minimal symptoms. each time you are to get it in this one occurrence as in with this particular strain of covid-19, your symptoms would be less to zero. >> test kits, we have heard a lot about test kits, whether we have enough, how effective they

are. there were reports of some that were defective. what do you know about them, sir? how do you expect the rollout of new test kits to go? do we have enough? >> with regard to test kits, we're never going to have enough. there's so many people who want to get tested. everybody who has a cough and cold will want to be tested. that's not what's important. what's important is for us to calm and understand who really needs the test. the people who really need to be tested are the really sick, those that are in the hospital, in the icu. with the rollout of the tests, we will start discovering there's a lot of people who have coronavirus that we didn't even know. our numbers are expected to go up. >> hang on. wasn't i want to back up. if somebody is not feeling super sick or doesn't have a high fever, you are suggesting they should not get tested at this point? this is often time asymptomati.

can you be diagnosed with coronavirus before you start showing symptoms? >> that can happen. we have to now ration who we are testing. if you have minimal symptoms and you are not ill, stay home, contact your public health official and you can get tested at the appropriate time. we need to ration the tests for those who are really sick. that's what's important here. we need to calm the public with regard to what we have as far as resources and who neetds them. with masks, people are stealing masks. health care workers need them. we live in the greatest country in the world with people who stand in the emergency department every day waiting to take care of people with coronavirus. they need the masks. it's all about rationing what we have until we have enough to test everyone. >> doctor, thank you so much. for a look at the fight to break coronavirus, we invite you

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some big endorsements today in the race for the white house. joe biden is getting the backing of a former presidential candidate, senator kamala harris. >> do you think that he will make another exuberant decision and possibly tapping you as his vice-president? >> let me tell you something, right now the task is to make sure people in michigan, people in flint, people all over our country, that they vote. there's been so much about this current administration and donald trump that has been about trying to beat people up and make them feel small and alone. one of the great challenges that we have -- joe can do this -- to remind people you are not alone, we are all in this together. >> senator sanders also announcing a big endorsement.

reverend jesse jackson is throwing his support behind the senator. the reverend will be with senator sanders in michigan within this hour. the progressive political group justice democrats endorsed sanders saying he will defeat trump and got earn amerivern ams time of crisis. joe biden in mississippi, sanders keeping his campaign in the state of michigan. he is coming off a huge rally in chicago yesterday with hundreds of supporters there. talking to chuck todd earlier, he blamed the democratic establishment for his poor showing super tuesday. >> the establishment put a great deal of pressure on pete buttigieg, amy klobuchar who ran aggressive campaigns. if they had not withdrawn before super tuesday, which is a surprise to a lot of people, i suspect we would have won in minnesota, we would have won in maine, we would have won in massachusetts. the turnout may have been a

little different. >> joe biden rallying with supporters yesterday. officials from the venue in kansas say, a couple thousand people showed up for the former vice-president. they were willing to wait, lining up for blocks, all willing to hear joe biden speak and take their time getting into the auditorium. he is leading the delegate count with 624. however, we should note there's 110 california delegates left to win, meaning sanders could narrow biden's 68 delegate lead or overtake time. the next chance to win delegates comes tuesday, when six states head to the polls. biggest prize is michigan with 125 dell glaegates up for grabs. joining me, david sorota, speech writer for bernie sanders' 2020 campaign. welcome to you. you are to appreciate this endorsement in michigan from the reverend jesse jackson. tell me what it means for the sanders campaign given the perception of his challenges winning over african-american voters. >> it's a huge endorsement. a really huge endorsement.

jesse jackson is one of the great civil rights leaders in history. jesse jackson won a historic win in michigan in 1988, which was seen as one of the landmark moments in democratic primary history. jesse jackson's endorsement, what he said in his endorsement i think is really the key here. he basically said -- i'm paraphrasing, but he said basically now is not the time for moderate policies because the crises we face and the crises the african-american community faces requires something more far reaching, an agaenda that's more far reef ia. we are talking about investment in public education, a medicare for all program to deal with the health care crisis that ends up with thousands of americans dieing every year because they lack affordable access to affordable medical care. this is a big, big endorsement. i can't stress it enough. i think a lot of people will

hear about it today because the reverend jackson will be in michigan with bernie sanders. >> we are keeping an eye on that active event. once that gets underway, we will show our viewers. we heard kamala harris announce she will endorse joe biden. she made that endorsement in alabama. we should note that bernie sanders did not visit alabama on the selma anniversary. are there concerns that may not be taken as well by black voters if he is serious about winning them over? >> first of all, bernie sanders was at that selma event last year, at the same time. bernie sanders has run a very aggressive campaign in the african-american community. he put forward a krcriminal justice plan that's far reaching. he has spoke been the institutional racism and bigotry in our criminal justice system. he talked about how his economic agenda would help communities of

color. let's talk about something like social security. you have a huge number of african-americans who rely on social security in their retirement. senator sanders has put that front and center in this conversation over social security that's happening between him and joe biden. joe biden has about 30 years or so pushed for major cuts to social security, working with republicans. senator sanders has spotlighted how he has fought those cuts for decades as well. the point here is that we have run a very aggressive campaign in the african-american community. on super tuesday, in the number of states, he won younger african-americans. that set of issues and his agenda will be spotlighted in a serious way. >> what is up with elizabeth warren? she had a lot of similar views. do you know when she will endorse, if she will endorse?

>> i think we have to respect senator warren's endorsement process, whether she decides to endorse or whether she decides no the to endorse. what we have said from the beginning when she left the race was that, look, senator sanders and senator warren have worked very closely together on a shared progressive agenda. they have some small differences on certain specific policies. by and large, they have worked very, very closely together on major issues on health care, on wall street reform and the like. our campaign continues to be the campaign in this race now where it's a one versus one race with joe biden that represents the agenda that progressive agenda that both senator sanders and senator warren have worked on together so closely in the u.s. senate. >> let's take a look at michigan again. we will look back a few years here four years ago, the big prize in tuesday's contest. senator sanders won the michigan primary with nearly 50% support

in 2016. look at this analysis. i'm sure you have seen it in "the new york times" which states sanders might have a problem in the state may not be as favorable to him now as it was four years ago. why not? why is he having a tougher time this time around? is it the candidate select, it's he versus joe biden as opposed to he versus hillary clinton? is it issues? >> i'm not so sure that we're going to see that. my point being, bernie sanders has run a really aggressive campaign in michigan on specific issues. let me give you an example. the big difference between joe biden and bernie sanders when it comes to michigan, one of the big differences is trade. bernie sanders has fought corporate trade deals that have harmed the job base of the industrial states like michigan. joe bieden when it comes to the china trade deal, even donald

trump's new version of nafta, joe biden supported those. i think when we -- when this campaign continues to play out in michigan, you have heard a lot about that, michigan voters have heard about that in the discussion. they will continue to hear a lot about that. i think the results on tuesday, the hope is that the results will reflect that michigan will be better served by a president like bernie sanders who has fought those trade deals that have so harmed michigan's economy and michigan's job base. >> i'm going to ask you quickly as we look down the road, david, do you feel that if senator sanders is not successful this time, that his supporters will then support joe biden? then vice versa. if biden is not successful, his supporters will support sanders? do you think both sides will bridge the divide? do you have any doubt the democrats will come together to beat donald trump? >> i have zero doubt that no matter who the nominee is, that

nominee will get major unified support by democratic voters. bernie sanders has been clear about this from the beginning that if he is not the nominee, he will be campaigning as hard as possible for the nominee. just like he did in 2016. i think that you will see his supporters be very, very supportive of the democratic nominee because we understand that donald trump is such an existential threat, a re-election of donald trump is such a threat to our country. here is the other thing i would add. we would very much hope that all -- that joe biden and joe biden supporters will make the same commitment to senator sanders if senator sanders is the nominee as well. >> thank you for your time. i know it's busy for you. >> thank you. flight attendants calling for change to prevent the spread of coronavirus. the drastic steps they want airlines to take to help everyone stay safe. (burke) at farmers insurance,

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new today, rising concerns with the nation's largest aviation workers union calling for dramatic measures to keep airline employees safe during the coronavirus outbreak. one demand, encourage passengers and crew to avoid flying sick by getting rid of financial penalties like cancellation fees. joining me from orlando is sara nelson, president of the association of flight attendants. really difficult times for you right now. thank you for joining me. in terms of cancellation fees, i know jetblue quickly got on it, got rid of cancellation fees for an extended period of time, i think through summer travel, in fact. what about any others? >> some of the other airlines are instituting removal of cancellation fees and helping people to make good decisions with their health and not be concerned about the financial penalties of cancelling if they are sick. i think we need to be very

specific here that each case should be considered on a case by case basis for the individual. they should not, as they are considering that, they should not be taking into consideration a financial hit and possibly flying when they are sick. >> yeah. what else is your union calling for? >> we have a whole list of occupational items that we want the airlines to implement. frankly, the federal government to coordinate around. one of the big items is an exemption so airlines can mount bulk amounts of hand sanitizer near our lavatories and our galleries on the planes so people can use that. washing hands and use of the sanitizer has been shown to be the greatest deterrent to the spread of the virus. that's another example as well. this really requires government coordination with the airlines. >> i know in addition to what you want the airlines to provide for employees, you suggest passengers travel with hand s n

saniti sanitizer, wipe everything down. it's expected to hit the airline industry hard. there are warnings arm s airli could lose $113 billion this year. what's the domino affect? what concerns you about that if it comes true? >> what's very concerning here is that because we have not had a coordinate red spod response government, good information from the government, resourcing to the cdc, the health care community, there's actually been a pullback, nursing are saying the pullback on their protective equipment, while they are treating passengers -- while they are treating patients, has lessened. they are pushing back on that. we really don't have a coordinated effort to be able to address this. what that is causing is mass cancellation of events, people outright just removing travel from their plans. that has a major economic impact. flight attendants are on the front lines of the spread of

this communicable disease. we also don't have the option of staying home. this is our jobs. when other people are staying home, that also puts our jobs at risk. what we are saying is, take into consideration the recommendations that we have put forward to help mitigate the spread of the disease. we're also saying, take a very close look, lawmakers and everyone in government should take a very close look at the recommendations from elizabeth warren and her plans on combating this coronavirus. in terms of health care, in terms of resourcing, having a national repository for all the resources we need to be able to address this and also addressing this to make sure that our economy is not destroyed, elizabeth warren has a plan. we encourage everyone to look at that and implement it immediately. >> i'm sure the bottom line is, you are hoping there are no layoffs. i can say, that i have flown a few times in the last couple of

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the latest numbers on the coronavirus in this country. they are not going in the right direction. 466 confirmed cases now, 19 deaths. joining me now, michigan democratic representative debbie dingle. good to see you. let's get into this. a good point to make is that none of these cases right now are in michigan. i'm curious if there's a growing fear among your constituents. are they worried about it, are they takingprecautions? >> i think everybody is worried about the spread. the experts are telling us that we are likely going to see increased cases. i think what's important right now is that we stay calm and wash our hands. to say that to you. we need to make sure we're getting more test kits out there. we need to address some of the issues that we have out there. if we all work together, we can try to minimize the deathly

impact on people. >> let's hope michigan stays at the number zero. that would be fantastic. let's turn to the democratic primary. it's the biggest prize in this tuesday's contest. sanders and biden are focusing on the state. what about your constituents? do you get a sense on whom they are focusing? >> i'm guessing my district will go for bernie. i think four years ago, i predicted he would win in michigan. everybody thought that i didn't know what i was talking about. you felt the ground move a week before the primary from hillary. i think that other districts probably -- the detroit community is understanding the importance of turning out and turning out for senator biden. but senator sanders has really been working this state the last few days. i think michigan remains a competitive state both in the

primary and in the general. if i had to place a bet today, senator biden would probably win the state, not my district. but there's a lot of work ahead and ground shift in 48 hours, as you have seen in other priether primaries. >> absolutely. if we look at 2016, president trump narrowly won your state in that election. do you think he could win again in november? have things changed enough that it's leaning blue now? what do you think the democratic nominee needs to do to win in no of? >> i'm going to be blunt. i think the state is still competitive. my district reflects -- it's a mini-nation. i have young people who really are scared about their future. they want global climate change. i have union workers who don't approve of the rhetoric, they don't approve of the style, they don't approve of things but they are voting for donald trump. i think democrats -- i'm not --

i have not endorsed in this primary because i think we have to -- they are close friends. the two senators are -- or vice-president now have been close friends for years. i worked with both of them on different issues. i'm focused on november. we have to come together. we cannot have the tension, the ugliness that all of that that happened four years ago. that contributed to people staying home, not thinking their vote mattered. every vote matters. we have to unite behind a candidate if we want to win in november. >> your lack of endorsement sounds like you are reflecting thoughts of a representative i spoke yesterday, a democrat in michigan. he said he is not going to endorse, has no intention because he wants to help unify the democratic party. to that end, do you think that if bernie sanders does not get the vote as you predict from your con city edstit the vote as you predict from your con city edstiuents and it

who wins your district, will sanders supporters vote for joe biden? >> i will work hard to bring them together. i'm a supporter of medicare for all. that and social security, expanding social security. i'm not going to stop working on those ishsues. we will keep working together. if they care about all of those issues and the things that -- global climate change, we have to pull together and support a candidate who will not keep pulling back on environmental regulations, who is in court fighting pre-existing conditions. i'm going to work very hard. i've said had to everybody. we have to unite. we can't be divided. united we stand, divided we fall. >> indeed. good to see you. thanks so much. >> good to see you. watch how the vote in six states unfolds tuesday with brian williams. it's tuesday night beginning at 6:00 eastern right here on msnbc. the economic toll from

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new insight on the impact that the coronavirus is having on the economy. since its record high in february, the dow jones has fallen more than 3,000 points. the markets could reopen tomorrow to more uncertainty as cases of coronavirus become more widespread. joining me now is austin goolsby from the obama administration and also a professor at the university of chicago school of business. kudos to you. that is a good gig there, professor. anyway, thank you for joining me. you have an op-ed in "the new york times" where you say that the virus could threaten the u.s. economy even more than china's economy. why is that and can you put in perspective how bad it is in china? >> well, the basic reason why is that all of the stuff that shuts down when people get afraid and

start social distancing as the cdc calls it, not going to sporting events and not flying on an airplane, not going on cruises and stuff like that, that is a bigger deal for rich economy like the united states than it is in a country like china. if anybody, as i say in the article, if anybody stopped going on a cruise, there is eight -- almost eight times as many people in the united states who go on cruises as do in china. sports is a huge industry. the convention business, all of these are bigger businesses and services dominate the economy of the united states in a way they don't in china. and if you look in china, they've had a pretty rough time of it. >> yeah. >> as everyone knows. one is the supply chain is shut down. but the second is if you go to wuhan and provinces where the outbreak has been greatest, people are in their houses. they're not allowed to come out. and now we're going to see this

experiment in italy where there are now quarantining 16 million people. >> yeah. >> and in a country like italy that is going to have a bigger economic impact than in china. >> and to quote the article and you just alluded to the part but i want to continue with you say we may have more to fear from an old-fashioned demand shock that emerges when everyone simply stays home. so austin, should we be more worried about causing our own economic problems? >> yeah, kind of. now, in a way i think that what pushes you back to is the argument that we should be investing every possible resource that we have to slow the spread of this virus. we should be getting the tests out -- to everyone like in other places to slow the spread. because if the spread gets as great of as reach as in china or italy, the impact on our economy is going to be really quite bad.

so when i say that, i don't mean to say that all we have to fear is fear itself so everybody should go out to sporting events. not at all. what we should be doing is absolutely trying to slow the medical spread of this, not sticking our head in the sand. >> what about people who are going to lose compensation because they have to stay home? they're either sick or self-quarantined out of concern. should we address that. because it is my understanding that $8.3 billion awarded to deal with the coronavirus problem does not address that. >> yeah, that is what i -- my understanding as well, it doesn't address that. i absolutely think we have to think about that. the bureau of labor statistics said less than one-third of americans could even work at home. most jobs in this country cannot be done from home. and people need the money. you add on top of that we've got

a million of people who don't have health insurance and very little paid sick leave. all of those factors i do think we need to address but we shouldn't kid ourself. if the virus spreads as widely as it has in some places that is going to have a major recessionary impact on the u.s. economy because we're so much more face-to-face services than these lower income countries are. >> long-term, short-term, what is your gut on this? >> my gut hopefully is it this is short-term. it doesn't make the short-term any more fun. but if, let's say, the coronavirus had the infection pattern that the flu has and it goes in seasons and that we would go into the summer months and we would peak out in infections and they would go down, hope we -- hopefully we could stand back up on a

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at the top of the hour, welcome everyone to "weekends with alex witt. two major endorsements from the race from prominent lacleders. kamala harris throwing her support behind joe biden and reverend jesse jackson pledging to support bernie sanders. the candidates speaking exclusively to nbc today about that endorsement. she said biden is the candidate who will bring everyone together. >> i've decided that i am with great enthusiasm going to endorse joe biden for president of the united states. i believe in joe. i really believe in him and i've known him for a long time. one of the things that we need right now is we need a leader who really does care about the people and who can therefore unify the people and i believe joe can do that. >> jesse jackson set to endorse sanders at any moment in a rally in michigan and sanders on the sunday talk show saying he's grateful for the endorsement.

>> later on today we're going to have the support, i believe here in grand rapids, of jesse jackson. >> and the endorsement is just two day as head of the next round of primaries and as the fight for the support of black voters continues, he want to talk with our panel but first to garrett haake following the sanders campaign in grand rapids, michigan. so a lot of action going on behind you. we know the reverend jackson will endorse bernie sanders. give me a sense of how significant that is ahead of tuesday? >> reporter: well, alex, the sanders campaign hopes it will be hugely significant. sanders is throwing everything into michigan, a state he won in 2016 and very much needs to win again in 2020. not just because it has 125 delegates, the biggest prize at stake on tuesday, but for turning back joe biden's momentum and one of the areas he's consistently struggled to

connect is with african-american voters and the hope among the sanders campaign is that jesse jackson could ignite additional support for him among african-american voters. bernie sanders sounds optimistic this morning. take a listen. >> what reverend jackson understands is that we have to move aggressively to wipe out all forms of racism in this country and we need an economic agenda that speaks to the needs of working people not just the billionaire class. i think with reverend jackson we got a boost in our campaign. we're working as hard as we can. because michigan is very, very significant in terms of the primary process. we hope to repeat the victory we had in 2016. >> reporter: and, alex, you can thought fault sanders for not trying hard enough but he'll be in every major media market in michigan several times whether it is dearborn or flint or grand rapids and he has a huge crowd

and i'm expecting another one tonight at university ann arbor. >> that college town. that will be the place to be on this sunday night. thank you so much, garrett haake from grand rapids. from there to mike memoli in jackson, mississippi, following joe biden. big good day to you. how big is the kamala harris endorsement for the biden campaign and how is it being perceived. >> reporter: well the biden campaign for the last week since they had the big victory in south carolina followed by a series of big victories on super tuesday has been in really consolidation and unity mode. they're trying to send the message to democrats across the country, especially those in the states that haven't voted yet, the candidate with the momentum and generating the most enthusiasm is joe biden and the last thing this party needs is a bitter contested fight through the convention and that is the mention focused on bernie sanders who is on the attack.

so kamala harris's endorsement is further evidence to them from a former rival that this party is ready to unite. it is sunday in the south so you better believe that joe biden started the day at new hope baptist church where he was introduced as the comeback kid and his strength with african-american voters powered him but with kamala harris endorsement is does he need to pick an african-american woman for the ticket. senator harris was asked about this this morning. let's take a listen. >> do you think that he will make another exuberant decision and possibly tapping you -- >> let me tell you something, right now the task before us is to make sure people in michigan, people in flint, people all over our country, that they vote. there has been so much about this current administration and donald trump that has been about trying to beat people up and feel small and alone and one of the great challenges that we have and joe can do this, is to remind people you are not alone.

we are all in this together. >> reporter: one of the interesting things saernt harris's endorsement is she delivered one of the first real tough blows that the biden campaign had to endure when she questioned his credentials on issues like busing. there is a long history between these two people. senator harris and joe biden are have had a long relationship and the hope among especially harris supporters who would love to see her on the ticket is that he has a short memory to foreher for that moment. >> mike memoli. thank you for that. and joining me now elena beverly from the president obama 2008 campaign and plits smith and welcome to you both. who got the biggest endorsement there, senator harris for biden

or jackson for sanders. >> well obviously sanders is trying to mitigate the strength of the kamala harris endorsement by rolling out ref vand jesse jackson. he is a civil rights giant. he is legendary in the civil rights community. he is also providing the reach into the more senior members of the african-american community and that is the community that bernie sanders trails with. so if you think about the super tuesday states where joe biden won 72% of the vote of that black vote in alabama or 62% in north carolina or 60% of the black vote in texas, bernie sanders has an issue with reaching into the more senior african-american community. >> so then, elena -- >> and that is what jesse jackson is there for. >> and why don't you think he did -- the saturday before super tuesday, why don't you think he put that endorsement at that point and might that have helped. >> very good question, alex.

and know reverend jackson well. he's been very good to me in my own civil rights community but he doesn't do anything without a strategy to it. and so i believe he's said that bernie sanders has committed to him to have a fight for a constitutional right to vote, for fight for $50 billion for hbcus, to fight for an african-american woman on the supreme court. my hope and my thinking is that he probably got some important concessions from the sanders campaign. >> don, weigh in on that. who got the bigger bounce, if you will, from the potential endorsements. >> it is very difficult to say. and i don't know that is the entirely right way to look at it is to compare the two. i think both are fundamentally huge. kamala harris, one of the few black women to sit in the senate and i would question why she didn't do it in advance of the california primary where her voice would have the most

efficacy and question why jesse jackson didn't do it in front of the south primary on super tuesday where he would have had the biggest sway with the biggest amount of voters as elena said, senior african-americans. but jesse jackson, there is no real way to overstate the impact of his endorsement. jrj h-- jesse jackson has done more for black people in his sleep than others in a lifetime. that is a big endorsement and i imagine it will come from a substantial amount of jesse and his organizers in the coming weeks. but i think they're both really big statements and i don't know that one is bigger than the other. >> you make a good point. and you heard mike memoli and you remember that debate where toe-to-toe kamala harris and joe biden and now things have simmered between them, do you think we're looking at a potential if joe biden gets the nomination first and second ticket there, do you think kamala harris is a likely or at

least a hard core consideration? >> i certainly hope so. i think that she represents an incredibly important voice right now. and in part response to your previous question about why not earlier, i think she has an incredible amount of influence now being the lone woman who could be one of the few women who are still in the race in some capacity even through the endorsement. we saw woman after woman exiting the race and now she provides an important voice for women on the electorate stage. also she has the support of michigan's congressional black caucus so she has an important voice as well in the state of michigan. but i don't know about you, don calaway, but my twitter feed was trending #bidenharris2020 so there is interest in having oor -- having a woman on the ticket or a woman on the ticket. >> what do you think about what she's saying about the ticket

potentially? >> kamala is a big deal. she demands a huge constituency. but, listen, there are 24 folks who didn't win. so she didn't diminish herself in the eyes of america by any standing with this presidential campaign. ultimately i had think that there is something that we could celebrate on this sunday. there is a very real fervor in the democratic party to have a woman of color as the vice president nominee and i would be shocked if joe biden didn't h e kamala harris at the top of a short list and would be political mal practice to not consider her but i'm hearing val demings took a boost this week if you will. stacey abrams has been a name consistently thrown out there. >> and they have met. >> they have met. there is a number of really good choices. and whether or not she would admit it, i'm sure that senator harris would covet that spot. >> let me ask you this, elena,

since you suggested that the delay in reverend jackson endorsement bernie sanders may have come because he waited to get some assurances, right. do you think it is at all possible that kamala harris waited and gotten assurance about something as big as veep or at least that she would be seriously considered before endorsement, is that possible? the timing where we are in the race. >> certainly it is possible. but i don't think it would have been necessary. because when she exited the race in december, joe biden said that she would make an excellent vice presidential pick. that she would make an excellent cabinet member, maybe a.g. or an excellent supreme court justice. so i think that she was being looked at and on a short list of -- of exceptional women for a very high office and potentially the executive without requiring some sort of quid pro quo for her endorsement. >> yeah. don, let me ask you about what bernie sanders said today

earlier on the sunday morning talk shows. he said that the democratic establishment was behind pushing both pete buttigieg and amy klobuchar out of the race. >> yeah. >> to make way for other candidates. in fact, he even so far as to say he suspects they would have won in minnesota, won in maine, won in massachusetts if the turnout would have been different. what are your thoughts on that? is he making a valid point or is it merely aspirational. >> he is not making a -- i would issue a stern warning to his camp and everybody not on team bernie is not quote/unquote the establishment and that got him in trouble messaging wise over the next couple of weeks if you don't agree with me and somehow you're not the establishment and they are particularly preg mattic voters who have lived a lifetime of politicians making promises that are ultimately broken and they are experiencing a time right now in this trump presidency which feels to them

like a lot of the most nightmarish elements of history they have lived through so what we're trying to do now, folks my parents age and older trying to get out of the moment and they deem joe biden the best way to do that. that doesn't make them the establishment. so i think bernie has to be careful with the messaging on that because it is frankly insulting. >> thank you so much for that great discussion. appreciate this breaking news. breaking news as well right now. joining me is chris brown, president of brady, formerly known at the brady campaign to prevent gun violence. we're glad to talk to you. but you have a big announcement concerning the 2020 democratic primary race. who is your organization endorsing and why? >> thanks, alex. it is a pleasure to be here. we at brady are proud to endorse joe biden as the next president of the united states. we know joe very well. we've had a 30-year history with joe biden. our supporters have marched with

joe biden. our supporters and too many victims and survivors of gun violence have mourned with joe biden. and jim and sarah made history with joe biden. we know joe biden. and more importantly, in the words of jim clyburn, joe biden knows us. he's a leader on this issue that is unparalleled and he has a history around our issue of promises kept. so we're so pleased to endorse him today. >> i'm sure he's pleased to get that endorsement. why is there a reason to make this endorsement now? is there a reason behind the timing? >> i think any of the candidates in the race, to be honest, alex, would be better than the current resident of the white house but there is no one better than joe biden. he's the reason that we have the brady law in addition to obviously jim and sarah's work and that has stopped 3.5 million sales of guns to individuals that everyone believes shouldn't have them. he has voted against plaqua, that provides broad immunity to

the gun industry. he has stood with us as a champion of the violence against women act and one of the leaders as chair of the senate judiciary committee on the assault weapons ban. for every issue that matters to our cause, he has been pivotal and a leader and we want to make sure that the american public understands that he will not only sign the right bills into law, but if you look at his comprehensive plan, he well knows the importance of executive action around this issue. so we want to make sure that people really pay attention to this issue when tear going to the ballot box. >> chris, has joe biden given you any assurances or indication as to what his first order of business would be, were he to be put into the oval office to benefit you? >> we're in a lot of deep discussions with obviously president biden and frankly all of the candidates in the democratic race. because our job has been to make sure that this is a top priority

issue. and we're pleased that it has been. part of what i think you'll see from a president biden are actions that the administrative agencies could take that he helped lead under president obama to close gaps in the federal background check system, to actually give some teeth to the atf, which investigates gun stores across the country and right now is completely toothless. so we are looking forward to him really leading on this issue and using the bully pulpit of the presidency to make sure that everyone understands that this is a solvable problem and that we will end this epidemic of gun violence in this country. >> chris, if bernie sanders ends up being the democratic nominee, will brady support him? >> we will certainly support presidential candidate who takes seriously the importance of renewing the assault weapon ban, of expanding background checks, and yes, clearly we're looking to make sure that the current

resident of the white house who has turned his back on victims and survivors, who has not done anything to solve this epidemic of gun violence no longer holds that seat in the white house. >> okay. chris brown with this big important announcement from brady, something i'm sure joe biden will be veried -- be very pleased to hear. thank you. new word about the spread of coronavirus in the country and it is not what you want to hear. but that is next. hey there! kelly clarkson! what're you doing on our sofa? what're you doing on your sofa? try wayfair. you got this! woah. yeah! let me try! all alright, get it! blow it up! that's what i'm talking about. except that's my seat, so. all right, so maybe after the movie let's talk about that bedroom of yours! when was she in our bedroom?

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turning now to the breaking news on coronavirus outbreak. new word today from the national director of the institute of allergy and infectious diseases. let's take a listen. >> we're having obviously an acceleration of cases now, if you look at it every day we get more and more. we have somewhere around 350, 350 probably closer to 400 if it isn't already there. we have at least 18 deaths and they keep coming on every day that goes by. what we're seeing is what is

called community spread in certain regions of the country, particularly in the area of washington state, seattle. >> and here in new york, governor andrew cuomo with whom i'll be speaking later on this hour confirmed another increase bringing the total numbers of those infected to triple digits. >> the state has 105 people who have test positive so that number is up by about 16 overnight. west chester has 82 cases nassau has five cases, rockland has two. saratoga two, suffolk one and new york city 12. >> off the coast of california, the grand princess cruise ship with 21 positive cases will dock tomorrow after being held at sea for days now. this comes as reports from the "miami herald" of another cruise ship held off the coast of florida awaiting tests for the coronavirus from two crew

members who transferred from the grand princess. we have a team of reporters. scott cohn is on the ground in oakland and shannon pettypiece is following the president at plg -- at mar-a-lago in florida. talk about the grand princess that is supposed to arrive there in the bay and dock there. that is not a typical commercial dock or port there in oakland, right? >> reporter: right. with well the port of oakland is a pretty sprawling facility. it is mainly freight traffic for the pacific, basically, and indo asia, they are deliberately having the ship dock here as opposed to san francisco just get owl of the this -- these logistics under control and get the passengers and the crew members to where they need to go. and we're starting to learn more now about what that plan is.

first of all, they'll get in here sometime tomorrow. the process of getting them off the ship which is quite the logistical undertaking is going to take several days. we though now that the residents of california, which is about a thousand passengers out of the 2,400 total, will go to travis air force base and miramar air force base in southern california. other passengers from other states will go to lackland air force base in texas or dobbins in georgia and the state department is working to get them to others to home countries and where they need to go. all in all this disembarkation process is going to take several days. among the people who are on the ship is kaley higgins-ott, a high school junior here and i spoke with alex last year and

she's dealing with this as best as she can. >> i'm not too worried about me getting sick because i'm fairly healthy. but obviously that still is in the back of my mind. i'm trying to stay as optimistic as i can, but it is definitely a very stressful situation and it is hard not knowing all of the information yet and not knowing what i have in store for me. >> reporter: there are clearly, though, passengers who are at greatest risk, they will be prioritized in terms of getting them off the shop including a cancer patient due for chemotherapy and the 21 people who tests positive for the virus, that is 19 crew members and two passengers. alex. >> well i got to say that kaley was a delight to speak with and i hope she's listening to you in this report and gets a better idea of what comes next for her and her family. thank you so much. joining me now california representative, jackie speier, a member of the intelligence and oversight and reform committee.

congresswoman, welcome to you. >> thank you, alex. >> injure -- your district near oakland where the grand princess docked tomorrow. are you getting alarm or fear from your constituents over this and i'm curious how you feel about the situation. anecdotally i have a staff writer on my show who parents live in san francisco and he said, to quote, they're freaking out. >> well i don't think freaking out is what we should be doing. but we have taken this very seriously. and we have really shut down most large events in the area. i had two speeches yesterday that were canceled. so the responsible thing to do is cancel these events that have large numbers of people. i also think that california is a hot spot. we have about 25% of all of the cases in the country. and i want to make sure that the resources are going to be there to do the testing. you know what is most disturbing

to me, alex, south korea and the you the found out on the same day, january 20th, they had a coronavirus case. in that interim, south korea has tested 140,000 people and the the united states has tested less than 1,500. it is an abysmal failure and i think the administration has done a very poor job of indicating to the american people that this is serious. this is not just the flu. we have people working from home now. we have icus that are full. we don't have the requisite number of res pirators. we have not taken this seriously enough and frankly the fact that we have not tested large numbers of potentially sick people is a serious crisis. >> those numbers are stunning. i wish you could have seen my jaw drops when you put out the numbers in the difference between the united states and

south korea testing but is there anything you could give to the administration, is it possible that lack of preparation in terms of tests, is there anything that the administration can give to you that explains why the discrepancy in these numbers? >> you know, anthony fauci has been forthright about this and i give him credit. the biggest problem we have right now is that we don't have any confidence in the president because he doesn't tell the truth. and because he doesn't tell the truth, more and more people are getting sick, there is more community spread, it is time for us to recognize that this is serious. >> i have an indication of how you're going to react to this nonetheless, ma'am, i want to play what the president said about the grand principle while visiting the cdc on friday. here it is, everyone. >> they would like to have the people come off. i would rather have them stay but i go with them and i told them to make the final decision. i would rather, because i like the numbers being where they

are, i don't need to have the numbers double because of one ship that wasn't our fault. >> what is your reaction to that? >> he talks about numbers. these are people's lives. these cruise ships are petery -- petery dishes for the virus to spread. i appreciate that presence wants them to take precaution and frankly i think the cdc should issue gried -- guidance cruise ship because the industry is going to collapse out of its own negligence and we don't have leadership in our national institute of health providing the guidance that is necessary. think about the number of people that tested positive on the grand princess. vast number of them are crew. how many of those crew were actually touching food? how many of them were in the kitchens? how many of them were in

communication with so many of the persons on that ship that were touching them. i think -- this is not just the flu and i think that message has got to get through to all of us. we have to take this seriously. we have to take precautions. we have got to prevent community spread and for the president to say that he's talking about numbers an the cruise ship should just stay out there, i mean it shows you his absolute disregard for his job. >> congresswoman jackie speier, i want to talk further about the president's handling of the whole coronavirus outbreak but i want to speak to shannon pettypiece as she's with the president in florida. so with members of the president's task force team making the rounds on the morning talk shows today, what are they saying. >> reporter: they're presenting a much different tone and scenario one that we've been

hearing from the president. we have had tony fauci telling elderly and medically vulnerable patients to avoid large crowds, not to go on cruises to the point congress woman jackie speier just spoke about. and we have jerome adams preparing the public to see more cases to come. here is what adams said earlier this morning. >> we had a posture of containment to give people time to prepare for where we are right now. now we're shifting into a mitigation phase which means that we're helping communities understand you're going to see more cases. unfortunately you're going to see more deaths. but that doesn't mean that we should panic. here is what people should though about the testing. they should know we have 75,000 tests available right now for folks, by early next week we should have over 2 million tests and by the end of the week with

partnerships with private industry over 4 million tests available. >> now that is in contrast to what we heard from the president just an hour or so before those health officials were on tv. the president tweeted complimenting his administration's response saying they have a perfect strategy in place. and essentially blaming the quote, fake news media for trying to make things look as bad as possible. the president also told reporters last night when asked if he would consider cancelling his rallies which could draw upwards of 15,000 people, whether whether he -- he would cancel and he said no. there is no reason to take that measure. but the conflict coming out of the administration is showing he is not on the same page as the rest administration. back again with jackie speier now. last question to, you, ma'am, what do you need to hear from the president and do you think

you'll hear it regarding the coronavirus. >> i don't think the president is capable of telling us the truth about the coronavirus. and i regret saying that. i think we have to rely on the scientists who are attempting to tell the truth even when they have to contradict the president. the fact that he is not willing to cancel his various rallies suggests that he is willing to place even his most arden supporters at risk. because we're supposed to stay six feet away from other persons in order to mitigate the exchange of those viruses. i think that he is showing, unfortunately, why he is so ill-prepared to guide our country during this time of the crisis. >> california congresswoman jackie speier, thank you for your time. it is a busy time where you are in your home state in california. appreciate that. we're going to go right now to grand rapids, michigan, that is the bernie sanders rally but look at the man in the center of the stage there, reverend jesse

jackson who endorsed bernie sanders this morning. let's take a listen to him. >> somebody. i am somebody. i am somebody. respect me. protect me. never neglect me. i am somebody. the red and yellow. brown, black and white. we're all precious in god's sight. with my mind can conceive it, and my heart can believe it, i know i can achieve it. i can achieve a new world. i must dream -- i must dream, and dream, and dream and i must keep hope alive. keep hope alive. keep hope alive. keep hope alive.

keep hope alive. never surrender. keep hope alive. bernie sanders can win. will win. must win. bernie can win. will win. must win. bernie wins, health care wins. love you guys. >> and there you heard it. the reverend jesse jackson. that is a very familiar mantra for some is it would even be a prayer, indeed, among those constituents that are there supporting bernie sanders. very much appreciating the endorsement there of reverend jesse jackson on this sunday in grand rapids, michigan. we'll stay following what is happening there as well as other rallies for democratic candidates around the country. but meantime, we'll move after break to the fight to protect the health care workers from coronavirus and what doctors and

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breaking news, as the cdc is rolling out guidelines for health care workers in the wake of the coronavirus outbreak. medical experts are expressed concerns for their safety after several hospital workers either contracted the virus or have been put under self-quarantine after coming in contact with it. joining us now is registered nurse and president of national nurses united jean ross. you are on the front lines as we heard the surgeon general announcing they're rolling out 4 million tests by the end of this week. is that a satisfactory response to fears there could have been a shortage. >> well, i'm not sure that it is. and it is very, very late. i'm glad they're doing it now.

we have been writing and calling to various state, federal and international organizations since january because of the fear of protecting patients and the people who care for them meaning us and other health care workers. so i'm glad they're doing it now but it is a little late. >> well, on thursday national nurses united put out a press conference titled survey of nations, front line registered nurses shows hospitals unprepared for covid-19 so should the government step in and offer more assistance and if so in what form? >> absolutely. you know, this isn't the first time we've been through this drill, now, is it? there was ebola, there was s 1 n 1 and the sar epidemic and each time we have to go as protection for nurses and health care workers to employers and government and to say this is the kind of things you need to protect the people that are protecting the public and in

this country in particular where we have such a profit-driven health care system, if the emphasis is always on things that they tell us is, for example, just in time, just enough equipment to have on hand should we need it, just enough staffing. but not optimal. that is when we run into trouble. so there you see the situati-- situation like we have at uc davis where one patient has caused 38 rns to be self quarantined and out of the work force and 88 other health care workers unable to care for patients. >> what measures are currently in place to keep health care workers on the -- on the front lines safe? >> well i could tell you what should be in place and that is what we have called and written about. one of the things you need right away is to be able to effectively screen a person who has symptoms. and that means look at travel history, of course, and look at

exposure. the next thing you need to be able to do is to isolate that person promptly, preferably in a negative pressure airborne infection room. you have to make sure that those rooms are working. so maintenance, sometimes as simple as making sure the door is closed. but also to test them. sometimes we have rooms you think are working and they're not. and then basically what the nurses keep saying every time, have enough ppe, personal protective equipment on hand, so if there would be a surge, with we would have enough equipment there. >> okay. >> just in time does not provide that. >> on that note, masks, gloves, they are selling out. are you concerned about a shortage for the health care workers on the front lines. >> well, we're very concerned about it. because at least in the beginning here it has been sort of falling on deaf ears as it often does. we've even been told that we tend to be panic mongers.

that is not true. nurses are very professional. we form a plan. we know what we need ahead of time. and we don't wait until there is a crisis to implement it. >> so if a health care worker comes into contact with the virus without protection, what happens? do they immediately get put under quarantine? >> not necessarily. you might not even know it, it depends on the employer. we don't have -- other countries might have a universal plan where everybody knows the protocol, everybody gets the same type of garb, everybody knows how to don that equipment and everybody knows what you do with those patients and where they go. we don't have that plan in this country because we simply have guidelines which, by the way, need to be updated. and then the employer can or cannot decide to do what is recommended. >> registered nurse and president of national nurses

united jean ross. thank you for joining us. best of luck. you're awesome on the front lines and we're grateful for you and your help. thank you. the number of coronavirus cases is on the rise again here in new york. there is a state of emergency now in effect. the cases in the state up to 105, up from 89 just yesterday. the total of cases nationwide now more than 466. and joining me now, new york state governor andrew cuomo. governor, i'm awfully glad to see you. yesterday it was frightening listening to your news conference but let's take about the latest cases and increase and where you're most concerned. >> yeah, it shouldn't be frightening, alex. thank you for having me, by the way. the term "state of emergency frightened people. it is a administrative procedure to give the more flexibility to purpose and hire people faster and that is all it means. if people understand the facts

here, they shouldn't be alarmed. the fear an the anxiety is greatly pacing the reality and we're fighting the virus and the fear more than the virus, frankly. remember, all of this it is to avoid two things. number one, to avoid massive disruption with very large quarantines, which is what we saw in china, what we're now seeing in italy. we want to avoid that. and it is a dangerous situation for people in that vulnerable population. senior citizens, people with compromised immune system and people with pre-existing illnesses. the data should calm people. yeah, we have 105 cases. only eight people are in the hospital. john's hopkins has been tracing all of the coronavirus cases. over 100,000. 60,000 people have already recovered. just about high 40s, 40,000 are

still ill. number of fatalities, 3,000 out of 107,000 cases. so it's avoiding the massive disruption, it is protecting those vulnerable populations. and that's why we're trying to contain. how do you contain, you test, you test, you test, you find the positive person and you isolate them. and we are testing aggressively. what we need is the federal government to help us, first, by stopping the mixed messages, which i believe is causing in large part the fear, when the the president of the united states is saying anyone who wants to test could have a test. and then the vice president gets on and said, oh, by the way, we don't have enough tests. you see that, you get nervous. you think your government doesn't know what it is doing. and we don't have enough testing capacity. and the federal government still has not approved for our state

to use private labs and something called automated testing. i was at one of the most sophisticated labs in the country this morning, alex. we can't even use them. because we're waiting for federal approval. >> why would the federal approval be delayed, particularly under these circumstances? why not allow you to use that kind of a lab? >> who knows. why was the federal government not ready for this in the first place when they saw what was happening in china and everybody had to know. someone in china was going to get on a plane, why didn't the federal government approve my own state lab to be used? now we are awaiting for approval to use private labs and something called automated testing. the lab i was at, they could test 120 samples without anyone touching them. we could get the capacity up to

2,000 within a few days, 2,000 tests per day if we could use the private labs. and we're still waiting for their approval. it is either bureaucratic incompetence, or one of the conspiracy theories that you hear. but at this point we need the tests. we need the capacity. and we need the federal government to tell the american people the truth and one version of the truth because i think that will go a long way in slowing down the fear. >> are you at all sensing some relief at word from the government there will be 4 million new test kits available by the end of the week? >> yeah, if that is true, that would be great. i myself am skeptical when i hear what the federal government says they're going to do. you think a situation like new york, i don't even need anything

from the federal government. i just need them not to -- not to handcuff the state. i have private labs who already -- they have automated testing. we can get it done just give us the approval to do it. they do hamstring us because they have to approve it. but i don't need cdc to run the tests. i don't need cdc's testing kits. i just need them to approve our usage of the labs and of the automated testing. and then where all day long trying to calm people down because the fear is more dangerous than the virus. and any of these emergencies, alex, i don't care if it is a fire, a flood, superstorm sandy,

the fear is more of a danger thar the -- danger of that dens you have a problem. and i think part of it is you're getting mixed messages. if you're watching the tv and you hear the president say one thing and the vice president say something else and the cdc say something else, they're also causing a panic, people were told they could get a test, but they can't get a test. we don't have the capacity to test everyone who wants a test. so in new york we had to come up with a standard protocol to prioritize those who can be tested, because you can only test as many people as you have the capacity to actually test. so we have a standard protocol in new york, where we prioritize who can get tested. as our testing capacity goes up,

we'll especially we'll open up that protocol so more people can get tested. but it's the disconnect from what they're hearing from different sources on tv and the realty that suggests the government doesn't know what it's doing. in a situation like this that seems out of control and it's frightening, you want to believe somebody is in charge and knows what they're doing, and that somebody is the government here. the truth is in new york, we are doing what we need to do. i have been asking private sector businesses and i'm going to be meeting with them this week to stagger their workload, let their employees voluntarily, some come in early, some come in late, stay at home, telecommuting, we're a digital economy, work from home if you can. citizens are doing their part. stay out of dense gatherings.

we have a situation in westchester county, 82 cases positive because we've seen the danger of large gatherings, where people got together, several hundred, and how fast it can spread. but again, it's not the underlying reality of what happens with this virus. we have plepnty of data from china, other countries. if you're not in a large population, it's not ultimately dangerous. but we do need the federal government to be a bigger help or less of a hindrance. >> listening to you speak of westchester county with 82 cases. and yet we talk about the dentsty of new york city where we both have right now. and there's something of a silver lining that the number has not sky rorkted as one might assume it would. what are your health advisers tell you about how new york city

itself, manhattan and the boroughs, is handling this, and about how long this may last? >> good question. for the duration, they look at the other countries that have gone through this. you look at china, south korea, but those are premised on active containment efforts, right? china may not have responded quickly, according to some experts. but they then had dramatic containment. they basically closed everything down. we're trying to avoid that in this country. right? you could close everything down. that would do the containment. but it would also be highly disruptive to the economy, society. we're trying to avoid that. but that's where they get the duration from. and you're right, new york city and density is a problem. but new york city hasn't experienced it because we have not had the number of cases yet.

and we want to keep it that way. if you have a number of cases in a dense environment, you're going to see it spread, because it communicates easily, and it transfers easily. so that testing, and as soon as you find a positive person, to isolating them and find out who they came in contact with and do that investigation and isolate them, that is tremendously important. that's all the difference. that's the early containment stage. you fail at that containment stage, it spreads into a dense environment, you will see those numbers go up. that is westchester. westchester is 82. new york city is only 12. westchester which is a suburban community outside of new york city, it started with one person who went to a gathering with several hundred people.

infected some people. they went to a gathering with several hundred people. >> okay. >> and now the numbers multiplied. that could happen in new york city. >> but new york governor andrew cuomo, thank you so much. i have to say i personally am less fearful after having spoken with you. so thank you for putting a lot of us i think at ease and putting everything in proper perspective. best of luck handling everything, sir. much appreciated your time. >> thank you. let me get to all of you. in the wake, you heard chris brown, the chair of brady, the campaign to end gun violence there, having endorse the joe biden. we're getting another endorsement from bernie sanders, march for our lives and gun violence activists. let me read a little bit. we are running out of time. this is coming and saying several cofouchbders of march for our liefbs and gun violence

prevention are announcing their endorsement. on thursday. the campaign released a video highlighting their endorsements. people are sick and tired of gun violence and the time is now for all of us together to stand up to the nra, said sanders. young people are leading the fight against gun violence in this country, and i am proud to have the support of these gun violence protection activists who are leading it. they include delaney tauv, ryan darch, chris grady, and the list goes on and on. one quote from them is the truth is we need a president who can do it, build a populous movement, create structural change, and speak to the intersection of every american issue. we'll be right back here ott the top of the hour. ack here ott the top of the hour. way more. so you can bring your vision to life top of the hour. t the top of the hour. at the top of the hour. hour.t the top of the hour. at the top of the hour.

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we have run to the top of the hour. we're all out of time. joshua johnson is with us. buckle up. it's been that kind of a sunday. >> yes, i've been watching, including your hours. there's a lot to talk about. thanks very much. we'll do our best. glad to be with you from msnbc headquarters in new york. today is all about presidential politics and protecting the public. first up, coronavirus. more