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more details. now if you're like most americans and don't live in queens, dvr the beat this week to make sure you don't miss that special report with voters. we have a lot cooking. thanks and keep it here on msnbc. t cooking. thanks and keep it here on msnbc. good evening. i'm steve cory nkornacki. the financial markets had their single worst day since the 2008 meltdown. today, yet another dramatic day of trading fueled by fears of the coronavirus. the dow falling more than 2,000 points nearly 8%. the market opened this morning, stock prices plumeted instantly and so severely in fact that a circuit breaker was triggered. that put a halt on all trading
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for 15 minutes. that was the first time the stock exchange implemented that type of a halt since the great recessi recession. it comes after italy implemented dramatic measures on sunday to contain transmission of the coronavirus. the italian minister announced a ban on areas including milan, venice and parma and late this afternoon, that was extended to cover the spientire country. that's nearly 60 million people. movement for italians will be restricted and all public ga gatherings banned. israel joined italy in taking extraordinary measures today, requiring all travelers arriving in the country toub quarantined. worldwide now, there are more than 110,000 cases of coronavirus. and here in the united states, the number of reported cases more than doubled this past weekend. there are now 670 reported cases in the united states and 26 deaths. as for that grand princess
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cruise ship that's been idling off the coast of california the past two weeks, it finally docked today in oakland. 21 people aboard test eed positive. 3500 passengers and crew will be quarantined for 14 days. last hour, the mayor of boston announced the cancellation of that city's annual st. patrick's day parade. that's a major eecht in the mayor saying he was doing it out of an abundance of caution. >> i think if no one -- containment posture where we're trying to keep the virus out of communities and help people understand that we have -- >> and right now, meetings with house committee chairs to discuss the coronavirus. earlier today, she assured reporters that congress was
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still open for business. >> no. no. no. >> so you're not going to change the schedule? >> there is no reason to do so. but it's not my decision. it's a security and a health decision and we'll be depending -- >> b what about the -- >> and moments ago, the president told reporters he would be taking steps to help alleviate some of the economic anxiety tied to the coronavirus including a b possible payroll tax cut. he said he will reveal details in a news conference tomorrow. for more, i'm joined by democratic congressman, eric swalwell, susan michael, thank you all for being with us. congressman, let me start with you. all these cancellations, they seem to be adding every day.
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colleges, school districts. you hear that giant parade there in boston, huge annual event there, speaker of the house, nancy pelosi, adamant there that the capitol shouldn't be closed in the near future. do you agree or is that something that should be considered? a congressional recess? maybe shutting things down just while the scope of this takes hold? >> good ooempk, steve and i was just in a meeting with speaker pelosi and i do agree that the science should guide a decision like this and nothing else. not politics, not concerns about the market, but just the science. and that's how we're going to lead on this. i'll tell you, the other tenor in the meeting i had with the speaker on our leadership team and also with our steering and policy committee meeting was we want the president to succeed so we want the to be here to give him the resources he needs to succeed, but we also recognize that as he has put misinformation out, we have to do our jobs to make sure the american people understand what this crisis is and what we can all do to make sure it goes away
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as soon as possible. >> i'm just curious. you're up there, seeing all around the country, the world. we just showed italy, what's happening there. basically a lockdown of the country it seems. is it something that should be, congress and groups like congress, is it something that should be on their mind now? the possibility of telling folks let's stay home, let's not be gathering in big crowds here. >> we are trying as an office to conduct as many meeting remotely as we can. we have an elbow bump greeting in the office now and we're taking precautions to wash our hands, use sanitizer and also encourage you know older americans who may have preexisting conditions to not travel just as the you know scientists are and for anyone else to not engage with those individuals. but we also want to show that we're functioning and you know being responsible about this and guided again by science. if the speaker, i'm convince d f the speaker were told by a
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health expert in the capitol she would do something else, she would let that guide her decision and nothing else. >> jane, the surgeon general saying this is now shifting in term of the government's response to containments to mitigation. talk about the significance of that. what that means from policy standpoint? >> well, they have to, it's beyond containment. the issue of for example whether they're going to be able to trace everybody someone has come in contact with, which we talked the last time i was on, that's no longer feasible. we had dr. gotlieb, the head of the fda at an editorial board meeting today as work, he made that point clearly. they will want to know who someone came in contact with in the d.c. area, there's a lot of talk about a particular priest recollecter where he b might have been and who he came in contact with, which was quite a had the of people. but now we're just trying to have people do the right thing
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and mitigate the problems, the spread of it further. the and get people tested as quick ly as they can and hope w talk about that because there's a lot of frustrated people out there who want to get tested and aren't able to yet. >> following up on that. what is the status? we've been hearing about the lack of availability of adequate testing. what's the status of this as we enter this new week with the numbers exploding all around us? >> that is one of the things i find very alarming. i i w i was talking to someone i know tonight who has a rare blood cancer and is about to turn 70. that person is at a high risk. he's being told he can't get testeded until he starts to show symptoms even though there's a chance he came into contact with somebody. that type of thing, there are stories all over the country, where people, there's someone who's been talk iing about somee
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else she knows in the area, she's been on twitter, this person doctors believe the person has coronavirus and they can't get tested. there are people in the health care industry, so vice president pence was talking about there being about a million tests are going b to be out there by the end of this week, but they still can't test everybody even though experts say everybody who wants to be ought to be tested. t going to take weeks. >> susan, we're seeing these reports from around the world, what italy is doing now to the entire country included in this order, israel. anybody coming into the country automatically quarantined. are we look iing at a preview o what's to come here? is it likely the u.s. is going to have to resort to these measures so even more strict measures? what's the come here do you think? >> it's unfolding by the day. it's rapidly changing, but i think the language we use around containment needs to be positive that we're trying to get ahead of this virus. we're trying to reign in the virus. we're trying to really
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understand what is happening out there. and if we're asking people to stay home, to limit travel, if they can work from home, work from home. every person who does that is one. >> lewis: person in that chain of infection. from ebola response, we know that works. when i was in sierra leone, there are two periods of lockdowns. allowed us to get ahead of things. we slowed down the rate of transmission. >> there's the difference between folks voluntarily doing it and the government saying you have to. as we're seeing in italy. do you think that's possibly something that's going to be locked at here and need to be looked at here? >> i don't know, to be perfectly honest. but if it is, i trust ambassador burks and dr. fauci. they are brilliant scientists. they know what they're doing.
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i work closely with programs they lead and faye follow the must remembers. they make decisions in a caring way and they want us to get through this as quickly and as swiftly as possible so that the numbers of deaths is as small as we can make and our country does have amazing resources and infrastructure to really help us contain this. it's hard to compare it with other countries. and we really have the best people at the top with ambassador burks and fauci leading this. they will make data driven decisions and caring decisions. >> four republican members of congress, ted cruz, paul goser from arizona, doug collins of gas, matt gates of florida, they say they're putting themselves in self-quarantine after interacting with an attendee at conservative political action conference last month.
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the person has since tested positive for the coronavirus. president trump and vice president pence also attended the conference. trump shook hands with the chairman of the american conservative union who has confirmed he had direct contact with the attendee who has tested positive with the virus. congressman collins and gates had more recent interactions with the president. on friday, trump tours the cdc with collins and today before announcing his self-quarantine, congressman gates rode with president trump on rare force one from florida to washington, d.c. moments ago, the vice president was asked if he or the president has yet been tested for the krocoronavirus. this is what he said. >> thank you, mr. president. >> has he been tested? have you been tested? >> i have not been tested for the coronavirus. >> has the president? has the president been tested? >> he's with people who were in proximity with someone who had the virus.
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we'll refer that question and get you an answer from the white house. physician. quickly. >> congressman, i'm wondering what you make. well, the responsible thing to do considering that so many people that the president has interacted with would be for the president to at least get tested. he unfortunately thinks most of this is a hoax and he has so far propose d as a solution to give tax cuts to his wealthiest friends and supporters. again, we're trying to look at this based on the science. we want to increase the availability of testing. we think that having testing not just at hospitals, but at a independent sites is critically important. we want to make sure the people on the front lines have all the protective gear they need and then folks affected by this at their job have unemployment insurance if they lose their job because of that. or if they have paid sick leave
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if they're quarantined. we want the president to work with us on this and not see it as an opportunity to politicize. >> susan, for individuals out there, how should they be thinking about it? are there particular symptoms, everybody gets some kind of cold in the middle of winter. everybody gets a cold in the winter. at what point should they think b about going to zee a tok tor. what would the practical advice be. >> fever. shortness of breath. cough. varies from individual to individual, but again, i would say we all know basic hydroggie practices and putting those in place are are best defense. social distance iing, staying s feet from a person coughing or talking with an individual is going to help us. it's going to help each and every person. using good hand washing, not just rubbing for 20 seconds, but really doing it as the experts
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recommend. going through your fingers. there's a lot of resources online to show really good hand washing and that is our best defense. i think the other thing if you do have symptoms to call first. there is a triage through the phone system that is being set up to help decide who should come in. we need to have the hospitals ready for those that are most ill. nurses on the front line are really struggling and they need more support to be able to care for those that are really critically ill. i think again, just some optimism, we can do this. we can turn this around if we engage our community leaders, they are the people that are trusted in the community. they are the people that individuals know and rely on. so going to community leaders, getting these key messages out to them can make a difference in how all us behave and react, but we all have a lot in our toolkit
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of hygiene and sanitation and common sense. >> yes, i've learned a lot about hand washing in the past week. i suspect that's true for a lot of folks. so if you're changed your hand washing regiment, let's keep at it. thank you all. coming up, president trump accuses the media and democrats of overstating the risks of the coronavirus while health officials have had to walk back some of the president's more dubious claims and the virus. do democrats want the bernie sanders joe biden battle to go on or are they going to move to unite behind biden and get the primary process overwith? voters in six states are about 24 hours away from giving us some answers to those questions. we've got much more to get to. stay with us. get to. stay with us i'm your mother in law. and i like to question your every move. like this left turn. it's the next one. you always drive this slow? how did you make someone i love?
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when you have 15 people and the 15 is going to be down close to zero. it's a pretty good job we've done. >> welcome back. it was less than two weeks ago that a the president said there were existing cases of coronavirus would soon drop to zero. instead of course the number of americans infected with the virus continues to grow. now the president is accusing democrats in the media of quote, inflaming the crisis and suggest
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ing the media's coverage of the outbreak help to trigger the steep decline in the stock market. t"the new york times" notes thi public health crisis is different in nature from the political battles the president may be accustomed to. quote, mr. trump, who was at his strongest politically when he has a human enemy to attack has seemed less certain of how to take on an invisible killer. the times notes the president has also made some overstated or inaccurate public statements on the outbreak including a prediction that the virus would disappear with warmer weather. suggestions that vaccine might soon be available and that testing was available for all who want it. i'm joined now by joe, white house reporter for the associated press and richard. thanks for being with us. i think the big question i want to ask about everything we just laid out there, he's on twitter today, the president is, comparing this to the flu. the seasonal flu we see every
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year in this country. what is he seeking to achieve? what is he seeking to accomplish with that? i see all sorts of theory out there. i heard a reaction to this is a reaction to watching the stock market tumble and in attempt to calm the markets, to keep those numbers from going down. what is the goal he's going after there? >> even before the stock market tumbled today, we saw this pattern of behavior from the president where he's really been trying to down play the risk. throughout it all, if you look at his public statements, if you look at his tweets, it seems like the president seems to view the coronavirus as a personal attack on him. as a personal attack on his presidency. suggesting that he is, he sees this and any attempt to talk about the severity as a personal attack on him, which is an interesting way to be thinking about this. therefore, you've seen the
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president be very defensive here and you've seen really a split screen where you've got to president of the united states for instance today walking off the plane in florida going into a crowd of people and shaking their hands just as his public health officials are warning people, especially people his age, not to do that kind of thing. again and fwagain, we've seen t split screen of the president speaking one way then the vice president and other members of the administration really trying tober message of what they should be doing doing keep themselves safe. >> we zoom out here at the beginning of this, the president did issue that order on travel. you know sort of a pretty decisive action there at the beginning, the dramatic action that suggested maybe one course of attack on this thing that might be follow ed by similarly dramatic. you haven't seen any sort of similar follow up steps to that. i'm curious what you make of what he did then versus what he's done since. >> yes, that travel ban was effective and smart, but the
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whole executive branch operating to what in the military they call commanders. how would they think. the intent of the executive is. from his first press conference, he's down played the threat. as jill said, he treats it as though the whole pandemic is a plot against him. he compared it to things that he could deal with. that clip you played where he said 15 people have it and it might dwindle down to none. everybody thinks i'm not going to be warred to go out and deal with this. all if p president had to say was we're planning for the worst, but hoping for the best and let the scientists deal with it. >> jill, i'm curious where this goes. we see these serious steps being taken internationally. we talked about italy. israel as well. i don't know if it's going to come to that. nobody does in this country, but
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this idea tr 2 country is move frg containment to mitigation. the possibility that more severe steps that have been implemented might be recommended given the p president's public posture on this, do you have a sense of his willingness potentially if it's recommended to take any of those more severe steps? >> you know, it's a really important question and i think you saw. i don't know how much of that press conference you play ed there, but at one point, dr. fauci was asked if he agreed with the idea of the president still holding rallies. you saw him decline to give his professional opinion there because he doesn't want to be seen as contradicting the president of the united states who had swrus been on that stage with him. got a president here who insists that this is not as serious as he accuses the media or democrats of making it out to be. it raises genuine questions about whether he will respond to this in the most effective way. i know the president and other white house officials did hold a
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series of meetings today. the president says he's going to be announcing big tax cut package it sounds like in order to deal with this. he wants to go forward with the payroll tax, which is something he was already pushing to do. sounds like they want to do something else for hourly wage workers, potentially something to help the cruise ship industries, but at this point, looks like that what they're heading towards. >> what goes on around the critical decision points with this public posture. >> vice president pence said we're dealing in a whole of government way. just because you say that doesn't mean you are. in fact, president trump fired the whole bio director at the nsc that was hired by obama to prepare for situations like this. so he's unprepared and in fact the stock market reaction is not so much a reaction to the disease, which it is, but a reaction to not having a plan and that press conference as
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well intentioned as it was did not have a comprehensive plan for dealing with it. >> okay. rick, jill, thank you both for being with us. and up next, well, tomorrow, six primaries. one of them, half primary, six big contests in the democratic side. do democrats want this race to continue? do they want sanders and biden duking it out through the spring and maybe to the convention or do they want to get this primary behind them and unite between joe biden? we'll look at some numbers. we may get some answers 24 hours from now. stay with us. e answers 24 hours from now stay with us with hepatitis c... ...i felt i couldn't be at my... ...best for my family. in only 8 weeks with mavyret... ...i was cured. i faced reminders of my hep c every day. i worried about my hep c. but in only 8 weeks with mavyret... ...i was cured. mavyret is the only 8-week cure for all types of hep c. before starting mavyret your doctor will test... ...if you've had hepatitis b which may flare up and cause serious liver problems during and after treatment. tell your doctor if you've had hepatitis b,
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we're taking on the political establishment. we're going to win this election. >> senator sanders likes to say we need a record turnout to beat donald trump. he's absolutely right and we're a campaign that's going to do it. >> it was four years ago tomorrow was basically the day that it was decided that democratic voters were going to stretch the primary process out between sanders and clinton clear through the spring and to the con evening. why? because it was four years ago that bernie sanders won the big upset victory in michigan and
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that told sanders supporters everywhere, maybe they didn't have a shot at a the nomination. maybe the numbers were tough there. but they had a lot of support ers in a lot of states there was a lot of resistance. enough out there for sanders to keep going and keeb keep collecting enough states to say i'm going on to the next one. the question is will that happen again tomorrow or will democratic voters deliver a different message? will they deliver a message that hey, biden's ahead. they want him to stay ahead and they want to get the primary process overwith and move on to the general election. we want to take you through two different scenarios. this is the delegate race. you see an advantage there of 77 for biden. they are still believe it or not, counting up delegates from last week. from super tuesday. a lot of them in california but basically giving an estimate here, a rough guess of how it's going to look, this is roughly how it's going to look when they add everything up. biden's going to be ahead about
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80 degree gattis. rough, rough estimate here, but that's going to be the lead from biden biden. take a look at what's up. here's the scenario for sanders are where he comes out of tomorrow and he's still alive in this thing. obviously it starts with michigan. can bernie sanders win michigan tomorrow? psychologically, win the big state that he won four years ago. that's a huge one for his campaign to be able to boast about. the polling does not look good in michigan right now for bernie sanders. his campaign will say it didn't look good for him on the eve of the michigan primary four years ago. also, missouri is going to go tomorrow. missouri was almost a dead even state in 2016. about 1500 votes separated sanders and clinton again since suggestions of slippage, the expectations are not god for sanders there, but he's got to keep it close at least. he's got to be competitive in missouri. mississippi depose tomorrow. that's expected to be a blood bath. that's a state in a region where bernie sanders has done terribly four years ago. is doing terribly this year.
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sanders though, north dakota. does he have a shot there. small state, but could he put up a win there, one up in idaho and of course washington state. these were all big sanders wins. the wild card this time is they have switched from caucus to primaries. north dakota's is a bit of a hybrid but these aren't pure caucus states anymore. that's likely to hurt sanders, but look, the scenario he wants tomorrow is to get the win this washington. to get the win in mmy to get wins in north dakota and idaho. be competitive in missouri and of course he'll take a hit there in mississippi. that were to happen, sanders could say hey, i'm winning states. big states here. democrats want this to go on. they're not sold on biden yet. sanders could live to fight another day. what that would look like in the delegate race, take a look at this. roughly it would look something like this. that big loss in mississippi would hurt sanders. he would still be down 80 something delegates, but he'd be
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able to say democrats want to take a closer look on biden. the alternative though tomorrow is what happens, recent this, what happens if michigan goes to biden. what happens if washington goes to biden. what happens if missouri is a landslide then the daelegate situation starts to look. now biden's moving ahead here. about 150 delegate lead for joe biden. that's a lot to overcome in a one-on-one race. that would be wins for biden pretty much across the board. sanders wouldn't be able to point to michigan and of course the biden campaign at that point would be able to say hey, we're up 150 and we got florida coming up next week and florida, the polling looks terrible there for sanders. tons of delegates. big opportunity then for biden to build on it. sanders has got to get some wins on the board tomorrow even if he does, the delegate math is daunting for him. but he's got to get wins on the pord tomorrow in those big states. we will see. 24 hours from now. the mood of the democratic electorate. do they want to go on with this
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well guess what, this is a movement to defeat donald trump and restore the soul of the country and it's a campaign for everyone. >> welcome back. that was former vice president joe biden in flint, michigan today appearing alongside new jersey senator, cory booker, the latest of several former campaign rivals to endorse biden. with 125 delegates up for grabs, michigan hols the biggest prize of the six states holding primaries tomorrow. both biden and vermont. they're holding events tonight in detroit and this hour, bitden is going to have a rally with supporters along with cory booker and california senator, kamala harris, who threw her support behind the former vice president on sunday then a rally in grand rapids, meanwhile, sanders was endorsed by jesse jackson who ran for president in 1984 and '88. got a big win in michigan in '88. for more, i'm joined by ohio congressman, tim ryan. the first former presidential candidate to endorse joe biden.
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congressman, thank you for joining us. is this is an interesting question to be asking you because i think it have about two week ago at this time that joe biden had had left for dead politically. now we are talking about whether this primary process is going to wind down quickly. given that it's been two weeks in which all of that has happened, do you think from the standpoint of uniting the democratic party, should this go on a little bit longer? biden's only been the run away favorite for two weeks now. >> i think it still needs to play out. obviously we've got important states that are coming online tomorrow then ohio and some other key states are on st. patrick's day, march 17th. so i think it's got to play out that long. and we'll see how it goes. but i think given everything that's happening in the country, you look at the stock market, the coronavirus and kind of the backdrop of this election, i think at some point it's going to be time to start setting our sights on trying to get this country some new leadership. >> you talked about it in your
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campaign, the idea of winning back those places that democrats traditionally win. that donald trump took. michigan is one of those states. the expectations now just based on the polling, take it for what it's worth, are that biden has the advantage in michigan. we'll find out tomorrow, but is this a bigger test, the ability of joe biden to win a state to win, to win the state of michigan tomorrow? if he can't win michigan, dhauz send up some warning signals about his general election prospects? >> i don't think there's any question that michigan is is an important state. but you know we feel really good about him connecting with voters in michigan. and it would send a signal to ohio and illinois, which come a week later. kind of in the old industrial midwestern states. but you know, it was joe biden who was leading the auto rescue package and those jobs in
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michigan, ohio, illes and indiana. he was the person putting that all together for president obama. so there's a deep reservoir of good will for joe biden in those states and he's been tapping into it i think kamala harris is going to electrify that crowd tonight. what a huge endorsement for vice president biden and i think we're going to get real momentum on tuesday and push it through the next tuesday and let's start setting our sights on democrat. >> if joe biden is is able to get wins tomorrow and next week, pull away, you still have this matter that bernie sanders is oult there attracting probably millions of votes before this is said and done even if he's ultimately unsuccessful. this was a big issue in '16. there are a lot of democrats who think it didn't happen. how do you make sure those sanders supporters are on board with joe biden this time? >> well there's always kind of cooling off period after some of these heated primaries and that's b to be expected. bernie has a message that really speaks to a lot f people. he's got very articulate
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supporters but the reality is when you put a joe biden versus a donald trump and you think well joe biden helped get universal health care for everybody in this country. that's not insignificant. he passed the violence against women's act. an assault ban. those are not insignificant compared to watching the stable genius on tv here the last few days trying to get his arms around a global pandemic and k labbing trans parn issy, lacking the basic leadership skills that you need to lead the united states through a time of crisis. watchi ining the stock market d 2,000 points. when supporters of bernie sanders see what the choice is is going to be, i think it will be clear they're going to want to get rid of donald trump then we'll have an internal democratic argument about policy once we all get in. >> tim ryan himself once a candidate now supporting joe biden. thank you for the time. >> thanks, steve.
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in an interview on "meet the press," sanders argued he would have won more states on super tuesday if several of his rivals hadn't of dropped out and entorresed biden. >> the establishment put a great deal of pressure on p&g. on amy klobuchar. who ran really aggressive campaigns. both of them. they worked really, really hard right before super tuesday, they announced their withdrawal. if they had not withdrawn from the race before super tuesday, which was kind of a surprise to a lot of people, i suspect we would have won in minnesota, in maine. in massachusetts. the turnout may have been a little bit different. >> this morning on the "today" show, pete buttigieg responded to that. >> what kind of a pressure did you feel from the establishment? >> i felt a pressure of voters. making a decision. we were in four contests. i'm proud of the campaign we ran. d run our fourth race, it was clear the numbers weren't there.
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>> the establishment didn't pressure you u to get out. >> the koiind of people who run for president of the united states are the kind of people who make their own decisions. it was my decision. >> i'm joined now by california congressman, national co-chair of the bernie sanders campaign. thanks for joining us. we don't need to discuss this in conspirator yal terms or anything like that, but the fact of the matter is, however you want to define it, the former opponent of joe biden, just about all of them, we have two more coming out today, all kind of deciding in this ten day period to endorse biden and not sanders and it seems to have had a significant impact on the trajectory of this race. from sanders' standpoint, from your candidate's standpoint, when you look at the struggles he had in 2016 to build his coalition, the challenges that awaited him in 2020, was there a strategic mistake at all between 2016 and 2020 in not trying to broaden the message, trying to broaden the approach in a way
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that might leave the quote unquote establishment not feeling like the minute it get to a one-on-one between standers and whoever they need to be with whoever. >> i.d. say two things. first of all, vice president biden has eight years under president obama. he has many relationships. so he has a lot of advantages. second, bernie sanders won the idea primary. i mean if you look at voters who are voting for swrbz, many of them are saying we're for medicare for all. free public college. we are for aggressive policies on climate change and that's not to be underestimated. fin finally, i think it would have been helpful to have more of where she jesse jackson's folks on board. he put together a coalition with the african-american community in '84 and '88 in way that was unpr unprecedented. i think we're lucky to have many
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of his folks advising us. >> the idea you're saying sanders won the idea primary. the polling shows there's broad democratic support for these thin things, but biden's not embracing them. biden's not embracing forgiving student loans. well, is it going to change because he hasn't and he's winning. >> i think it will go a long way for whoever the nominee is to end up spoupporting the policie that are popular amongst drak voters and i believe that our platform should reflect those policies. i feel that if senator sanders was the no, ma'minee, if anyone the nominee and it should reflect a broad coalition. look, i said if senator sanders were the nominee, there should be people outreach moderate democrats, new democrats, democrats people like tim ryan, who i have tremendous respect for. i said that senator sanders should include them, sit down with them, listen to them. i think whoever the nominee is is going to look at the policies
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and make sure they have a broad coalition. >> does bernie sanders have to put a win on the board tomorrow? >> no, he has to do very well, but i think this is going to come down to the debate. we've not had a one-on-one debate. i believe both candidates will have an opportunity to share they vision, why they're electable and that's going to be the key to this whole election. >> congressman, supporter of bernie sanders, thanks for the time. >> thank you. >> up next, more as primaries, the first time it's going to be one-on-one on a primary day. sanders and biden squaring off against each other. what that could mean as biden new polling today extending his lead nationally. stay with us. stay with us your 70lb st. berna, and my lack of impulse control, is about to become your problem. ahh no, come on. i saw you eating poop earlier. hey! my focus is on the road, and that's saving me cash with drivewise. who's the dummy now? whoof! whoof! so get allstate where good drivers save 40%
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perhaps it's time to partner with someone who knows you and your business well enough to understand what your wealth is really for. all right. welcome back. at this time 24 hours from now we'll start getting the numbers. six states, michigan, washington state that will come in later, missouri, north carolik north d they are vote in a two-person race. joe biden built a significant lead in the latest national polling. new cnn poll out this evening shows biden 16 points ahead of bernie sanders and shows him 19 points up. for more i'm joined by a democratic strategist and charlotte alter, "time magazine" co-spo correspondent. bazell, it seems to me that
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tomorrow is a pivot point for the democratic race and we'll see from the voters in these states basically do they want this race to go on? do they want to hand sanders wins to say see there is a constituency out there or do we get a result tomorrow that's from democrats they want this over? >> yeah, my gut is that you'll get a little bit of that emphatic statement but for sanders, he doesn't have to win a lot of these states. he has to be very competitive in these states because of delegate allocation and jesse jackson he worked with in 1998, thanks to that he can remain competitive as we get to florida, illinois next week because if you remember 2016, we really still had a race until we got to new york in late april. and so i think there is a tremendous desire and energy to close this book and close the chapter and move on, especially when you look at governor bullock for example deciding to
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run for senate. there is a lot of attention. jamie harrison running in south carolina for a senate. i think there is a lot of democratic activists are focused on the down ballot races. they look more to joe biden but i don't know sanders has any real reason to come out early. he can push this for quite a few weeks longer. >> there is the question, charlotte, the psychology of the democratic party, they want to unite and find a candidate and what propelled sanders in march, april, may in 2016. he did keep winning enough states where every week or so he could say i won this one. i won that one. that collision, one of the questions we're asking now is how much of that was about sanders, how much about that was who he was running against and collecting anti hillary votes? >> that's the big question for sanders coming into michigan is so much of his narrative for the last four years has been sanders won michigan in the 2016 primary and then hillary lost it in the
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2016 again real and that's been anchoring the narrative of bernie would have won. the question is what happens if he doesn't pull off the big staggering win that he did four years ago and how does that complicate that narrative about his electability. he's been rooting his ele electability that he can win the voters clinton lost in 2016. >> i know sometimes we can over state how much you can read the primary to the general election. i was looking at the counties in iowa and said you never would have seen what happened to clinton in the general election based on caucuses but still, it's true. there so much invested in the idea among democrats of the significance of a state like michigan if biden goes in. if these polls are right at all and biden goes in there and gets not just a win but a big win, that's a big statement. >> it is. especially since super tuesday and going forward he starts winning -- he's been winning the southern states that are red in the general election because that supports his argument that i'm the best sort of -- the post
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inclusive kind of candidate when you talk about going after those working class while males and pulling away some of those trump voters and going to michigan to a point you made earlier, one of the things i want to see specifically after 2016 is does bernie sanders do well in those suburban, non-n -- not detroit for example. all those suburban areas because hillary clinton did well in those big cities where sanders did not in large part because of after conditi african american voters. will these african american voters, how will they vote in michigan? that's going to say a lot because if bernie sanders actually still does well, it actually chips away a little bit at the biden argument. it will be sanders saying there is still economic depression here, which there may be in the rest of the rust belt and i'm the only candidate that can speak to that. >> all right. we got to leave it there, unfortunately. i could talk about this for a couple more hours. we will tomorrow. for now, thank you for joining us and we'll be right back. thag us and we'll be right back ♪ limu emu & doug
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nomination continues. voters casting ballots in six states including, of course, that key battle ground state of michigan. our coverage here on msnbc is going to start at 6:00 p.m. eastern with brian williams, rachel maddow, nicole wallace and i'll be in the big board. don't go anywhere, "all in" with chris hayes is next. tonight on "all in". >> it's going to disappear one day. it's like a miracle. it will disappear. >> the entire nation of italy goes on lockdown as our domestic spin continues. >> blind sided the world. >> tonight, new cases, new deaths and new concerns about growth in america as the testing shortage continues. >> anybody that needs a test gets a test. plus, what we know about at least four members of congress self-quarantined after contact with a coronavirus patient. then, what we know about today's market collapse. >> all of the
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