taking the lead on that. i salute them. >> what about this terror that parents feel that school will be closed indefinitely. >> it's hard for working class parents and parents without paid sick leave. we all manage possibilities, not probabilities. we need to hear what the probabilities are. >> maryland schools closed for two weeks. that news comes across the wire a few moments ago. that does it for our hour. thank you to all my friends here. thank you do you for watching. mtp daily with chuck todd starts right now. welcome to thursday. it's "meet the press daily." i'm chuck todd here in washington. there is a once in a lifetime disaster preparedness effort being undertaken across the

country. with have never before in modern life experienced the social and economic disruption that's about to happen or is already happening in and around our communities from coast to coast. we got a lot developments to get to. a lot of questions we want more answers for. over the next hour we'll be talking to experts in medicine, infectious diseases, testing and mitigation, reporters covering beat and health politics. a governor on the front lines dealing with state of emergency. all of these folks will try to help all of us wrap our arms around the extent of this approaching storm. i'm from florida we with know a thing or two about preparing for some pretty scary storms. you either hunker down or get out of dodge. we generally have a sense of how prepared to be and how much to disrupt our daily lives because we have a seense of how big and intense the approaching storm will be and when it's going to hit and perhaps how long it will take us to recover. in the case of the coronavirus

there's a sense of confusion and that's leading to panic. are we preparing too much? is it just right? that depends on the size and scope of the virus itself. that's the problem. what we're learning today from public health officials is we don't know about the actual or predicted scope of the approaching storm. there are questions about whether we should, at this point in time. there's large argument that says under certain circumstances we would know more. one of the most trusted public health officials on the white house coronavirus coronavirus task force testified the country's testing regimen is failing. >> the system does not -- is not really geared to what we need right now.failing. let's admit it. the public health component that dr. ritfield was talking about was a system where you put it

out there in public and a physician asks for it and you get it. the idea of anybody getting it easily, the way people in other countries are doing it, we're not set up for that. do i think we should be? yes, but we're not. >> there's fauci saying it's systemic. right now the number of cases in the united states has risen to about 1300. 38 deaths with the social gatherings that drive life are shuttering by the second. as we went to air, we learned of disney land. all major sports leagues have shut down. the ncaa tournament is off. large gatherings are being banned. work plaplaces want you to stay home. single worst day of decline since the 1987 market crash and

the disconcerting thing is we don't know if this means the proeptsing storm will be a category one or a five. dr. anthony fauci made comments that no amount of testing will give us that answer either. >> testing now is not going to tell you how many cases you're going to have. what will tell you what you're going to have will be how you respond to it with containment and mitigation. right now all of us regardless of what testing is going on need to be doing the kind of distancing, avoiding crowds, teleworking where possible. i said it many times and i'll say it again th, this is not business as usual. if you live in state or a region where there's a few or no cases, it doesn't matter. >> i'm going to start tonight with reporter don mckneel who covers science and health with the new york times.

nbc correspondent is in rome, italy where more than 1,000 people have died from the virus. what's happened in italy and their medical system has spooked the american medical system. i want to start with you doctor. dr. fauci made the case we're never going to now the scope of this problem until after this virus gets through the system. at least, that's what i heard reading between the lines. did i hear that correctly? >> well, i don't think that's what tony intended, chuck. what he intended to say was testing will tell us where this virus is now. we need to have that

information. where it's going will depend a lot about how we all integrate social distancing into our lives. my impression is people are taking this very seriously. all kinds of large events are closing down. schools and colleges are going to virtual learning rather than inclass learning. individuals are making family decisions, should we go to religious services this weekend. are we going to have that large party. i was to speak at a rotary club tomorrow morning at 7:00, the meeting is not being held in person. that's what will help us abate this epidemic to tramp it down so that the outbreak will, among other thirngs be stretng, be st. >> doctor, i'm curious your

thought on this. is one of the reasons we're finding ourselves cancelling events left and right, making these workplace decisions is because the testing at the beginning failed. had we had more knowledge about the scope, we could make these decisions with a scalpel rather than with an ax? >> i think it's a little too early to say. these decisions are being made because there's widespread transmission of the virus. there's no major alternative to that. could we have at least stalled the period we're in. that question, we don't know the answer for sure. it would have been helpful to identify cases faster and to be able to quarantine people quicker but it's quite possible we would have wound up where we are now in any event with wider spread and the need to do bigger

things. >> why do you need the testing now? i get it that the horse is out of the barn but we still need to know the scope, don't we? >> well, there are multiple reasons for testing. for pashtient who is are sick, u need to know what they have so they can be treated. if you're going to test new thing, you know the person has the disease. people who aren't very sick but what sick being able to diagnose them quickly can really help making sure they stay isolated. that's very important. then, ultimately, we will get tests that will allow us to see the spread across the entire population which will allow us to understand a lot more about this disease, including how many people have immunity to it because they had mild infection and didn't realize it. >> dan mcneil, you got the attention of our staff today when you said we're going down the italy path.

>> i was saying on the podcast this morning, instead of choosing the path that china has taken which beginning to bring the epidemic under control, they had less than 36 cases today. instead of going down that path, we're going down the italy path which is people don't want to stop going to restaurants. people resent the fact they can't go to basketball games or football games. they didn't want to change their life. the virus came and spread among them and now there are huge numbers infected and there are icus overwhelmed and they have to choose who lives and who dies.

>> you heard what dan said, a couple of weeks ago italians weren't ready for this. how are they handling a complete shut down of that country? >> reporter: it's a good question. i spoke with a gentleman today, he's a restaurant worker. he's the head chef. 80% of his clients are tourists he said. he had already been suffering. last night the decision was made to shut down not just the restaurant's in the evening but the restaurants all day long. he said he was effectively without a job as of this morning. he grabbed some food because he didn't want,000 san thousands os of food to rot. he stop odd tennessee street and the police grabbed him and fined him 60 euros for walking around in the street. >> oh, my. >> reporter: it was an interesting thing. this kind of confusion and grasping at what is appropriate. he was saying he's in favor of these measures.

he thinks there should be a lockdown like there has been in italy. this unprecedented nationwide lockdown that seems 60 million people told to stay in their homes across the entire country. he was also pretty upset at the fact the entire lockdown landed on him. he lost his job that morning and several hours later had been fined by the police for the crime of walking in the street. then he said after i was done talking to him, this could come to america. this kind of extremely stringent restrictions on people's movements is about to wash up on american shores. that's something that everybody country and every individual within america will have to grapple with. will i compromise my personal freedoms for the greater good? it's a question we're seeing in italy here. >> you just heard that story. that does seem chinchina, an authoritarian state, italy, western freedoms.

>> okay. the things we prize are life, liberty and the pursuit of happy. if you don't have life, you can't do much with the other two. that's basically the argument that w.h.o. is make and explaining the success of china. you have to save lives. you have to save lives. you have to save lives. temporari temporarily, people will be inconvenienced. people will lose their jobs, their paychecks. maybe the bosses will keep them on. maybe the federal government will step in. the important thing will be making sure the food networks stay open, the drug supply networks stay open. not that people can still go to bars and restaurants at night. >> we're seeing the prooifivate sector and they are making decisions that surpass whatever the government is suggesting which we can -- we're going to go through that later.

are these private organizations responding better in some ways than the government is? >> i think the private organizations are definitely responding better but the government is catching up at this point. this is where the testing would have been so useful for us. if we knew where the virus was spreading most readily then we could target those areas and implement the kinds of quarantines or separations and social distancing efforts that would really help keep people from spreading the virus to each other. we don't have that information so we just have to assume the virus is spreading everywhere. social distancing is both time and place. it's also separating people in terms of time which in some cases it's where businesses are way ahead of this. not every one is in the office at the same time. we can do the same thing in communities as well. >> i know we're instituting

staggering work times ourselves around here. most you have will be able to stick around, dr. sharpstein i know you have to go. if you could walk us through why there is such a wild fluctuation across countries right now in the death rate. is this due to lack of testing and a lack of we don't know what the scope is or should we be taking some of these death rate percentages a lot more seriously than experts in this country have been taking? >> i think what is clear is this picture from italy and the fact you can get so many infections that the health care system gets overwhelmed. when that happens there is a risk that it's not just the people with coronavirus who are dying but other people with other serious conditions because the health care system can't adequately take care of them. clearly, huwan, china got every run at the beginning and so the

death rate was higher. it's unclear what kind of death rate we'll be facing in the united states but the smart thing to do is to assume it could get as bad as it is in italy. >> it sounds like you think the death rate is more directly connected with whether your health care system can handle this or not? >> yeah, i wouldn't look so much at the reported death rates that have a lot to do with the number of tests that have be done and whether people who aren't that sick are getting tested. >> i would look at the over all number of deaths that we'll have and i think the critical factor will be to protect the health care capacity and make sure we have the ability to take care of the patient who is really need that intensive care unit and every one's responsibility is to do their part to protect that health care fcapacity so the people who really need it gets it and the way to do that is to reduce the risk that you'll get

infected. the reason is the fewer infections, the fewer infections that person will pass onto other people and maybe it's their parent or someone their neighborhood. it's not just the infections you have but the infections you're a bridge to someone else. people have to take that seriously so we're not in situation like italy. >> it's one of those cases you hear the phrase, we're in all in this one together. we are literally all in this together. thank you. i know you've got to go. the rest of you thank you for agreeing to stick around for a bit. most of all, are we doing enough to combat the coronavirus threat? later, as more as more states declare emergencies, i'll talk to one governor about what's being done to curb the threat in her state. e to curb t threat in her state. at fidelity, we'll help you

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welcome back. one of the biggest questions we're all asking this morning is are we doing enough to combat this threat. are we doing too much. college basketball teams are prepared the play in front of empty stadiums and arena. now they won't be playing. the ncaa cancelled the march madness tournaments, men and women. the latest in a string of cancellations across the country. are we better off doing a question from our medical experts too, essentially, shut down the country for two weeks? are would you go longer? >> the virus is going to determine how long the country to shut down. we won't have a vaccine for a

year, we've been told. don't count on the idea that summer is magically come along and stop the virus. that's a bit of the fantasticy.i the point is not the shut down. the point is to get people not mixing with each other so much so the virus races through the population like a fire. they are doing testing. they have every single building you go into, you have your temperature taken. any time you get on a bus. any time you get on a train your temperature is taken. even going back into your own apartment building, your temperature is taken and if you have a fever, you're sent to a fever clinic. at the fever clinic they can diagnose within three or four hours whether or not you've got the virus and then you don't go back to your family to infect them. you go into isolation in these

large gymnasiums in these convention centers and things like that with beds ten feet apart. they're not concentration camps. they are not miserable. some people like it because it's better than being cabin fever of being stuck at home. you don't worry about infecting your family. >> it does sound like what donald mcneil is describing is flattening the curve so we don't get this spike anywhere. it's all about mitigation the entire time. is that a realistic future for us in the next six to eight months? >> i do think it's realistic but not in the draconian way it was done in china.

i don't think that's in the u.s. genome. i have seen so many people and so many institutions institute a variety of responses to the requests to do so social distancing. it's very, very impressive so far. people are taking it very, very seriously. the question is how long can this last and will that be sufficient to dampen it down. i think we'll see. >> would you like to see all schools shutter -- essentially looks like we're about to go that direction. is that prudent? >> well, that is a specially debatable point because this virus does not substantially affect children. could they all be infected and transmit the virus the way they do in influenza? that could be. in which case school closures could be very important. we're not certain about that with the coronavirus.

>> drew harris, same question to you on the school issue. ohio and maryland both went and this is in -- my guess is this is going to be a copy cat in the other 48 states pretty quick. good idea? >> well, it depend ossen the school. depends on the city. depends on the population of kids that go to that school. just today two moms asked me questions about whether they should send kids to school and a concern was there wasn't enough soap and water for the kids to wash their hands at school. they were concerned the virus would be spreading in the school. as you heard, this is not a significant issue for young people. this is an issue for older people. chuck, i think we may need to start thinking in terms of reverse quarantine. instead of trying to keep the people who have been infected from spreading the virus, let's think in terms of protecting the people most vulnerable from

complications from the infection. >> what would that look like? rey reversing that. >> you're seeing that already when people in nursing homes are telling the family members do not come and visit your loved one here. we need to keep them isolated from you, separated. that would be one way of doing that. telling people who have conditions that make them more at risk for this virus that they shouldn't be coming in contact with anyone. we need to stay away from them and provide them with the protection. there are ways we can do that through good policy and -- >> are we going to be getting to the point where, i remember my late father got scarlet fever back when that was a thing and you had to put a notice on your door. are we going to ask people over the age of 07, don't come in.

would that be useful? >> i think it's already happening. a neighbor of mine who is older is telling me she's not taking the bus anymore. she's staying away from people. they are separating themselves because they know they are at higher risk. let's ramp up meal os on wheels. protect them because those are the ones that will put the greatest demand on the health system. the older people, people with chronic conditions who will need all of this extra care and then the rest of us should the our best to stay away from them and keep the virus from them. >> all right. donald mcneil, drew harris from thomas jefferson. thank you all. i think the more information people have, the better. i hope people took this for what it was, information first. up ahead, the virus is sending shock waves through wall street once again. we'll get an update from the

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welcome back. sources tell nbc that lawmakers in white house are close to hammering out a legislative response to the virus aimed at addressing the upheaval from the coronavirus. it comes as the dow kpeerexperi the largest single day drop

since the crashes falling 10% in a day. david, let me start with you. is there a specific explanation for today's sell off versus yesterday's sell off versus we had the oil fight was a part of it a couple of days ago. there's always like a sub explanation. we know what the larger issue is. was there a sub explanation today? >> yeah, the oil situation still looms large for a lot of investors. it's general anxiety we're feeling. you looked at the futures last night as the president spoke to the nation after that speech as well, a lot of concern about the lack of specifics in the speech that he gave. that speech taking place at 9:00 eastern time early in the morning in europe. it doesn't help that there were these changes to the speech

afterward. the market open down. five minutes into the trading day you had the circuit breaker trigger. pausing things for 15 minutes. something happened midday. the press applied so much pressure on the fed to lower rates there was a moment when the new york fed at the behest of the federal reserve infused the markets with money. indicating it was conscious of what was happening here. market investors reacted to that. you saw the market drift higher as a result of that but it went back down once again. i say all of that to illustrate how there's a limit to what monetary policy can do in this situation. this is a public health crisis. you can add liquidity to the marketplace. it's not going get us closer to getting a vaccine or getting more tests out to folks that need them. as they listen, as investors listen to what was happening in washington out of the president's mouth when he was in the oval office with the irish prime minister and listened to what what has happening on capitol hill. not a lot of grounds for optimism that we'll get to some deal by the end of the week.

>> you know, daifrvid, your pa t painting a picture of market that went down today because of the lack of confidence of the leadership in washington which bricks me to kasie hunt. there's your backdrop. david painting it for you. it looked like house republicans were trying to scuttle this deal. it sounds like the market spoke and the white house got the message. >> reporter: i think that's right, chuck. there was a sense kind of, it started late last night. nancy pelosi put out the text of this. there was a lot of nervousness from house republicans. some of my sources said a lot of members saw steve scalise on fox news talking about the problems with this package and got nervous. the market spooked this morning

and kevin mccarthy went out in public around 11:00 and said we're trying to get this done n and that was a significant signal to me. nancy pelosi said the same thing. her office has been updating these phone calls have been going back and forth. every one up here is invested in sending the signal that all is on track. that said, there's still some big question marks. mitch mcconnell left the building before 4:00 p.m. today sending his members home if r the weekend which shows it's extremely unlikely they will get anything done before the weekend. this is going to gettic kiked into next week. just looking at friday is nerve wracking. i have to say it feels a lot like we're in unchartered territory here. i've been doing this a long time. you and i had a lot of conversations in the day about

major pieces of legislation. i'm usually able to say in past it's worked this way. >> none of that. >> reporter: all bets are off in this. i've had a couple of people in conversation bring up tarp, the final bail out add the closest analogy that anyone can come up. i remember watching that go down on the house floor. it feels like we're in scenario like that one where this is what they are doing for now but any piece of news could change things. >> maybe we're too polarized to say all of this will escape politics but something is happening. thank you. we'll check in the rhode island governor about her state's emergency plans and how they are interacting with the federal government. that's next. with the federal government

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welcome back. the coronavirus virus outbreak has nearly spread to every state in the country. cases have been reported in 45 states. more than two dozen state vs declared state of emergency. among them is rhode island where five people are being treated for the covid-19 virus. governor, good to see you. sorry it's under these circumstances. i don't know if you're experiencing the same thing with your public health advisers but it feels like every governor in the country amped up the seriousness of their calls for mitigation and action in the local communities. what are your public health officials telling you about what the next two weeks will be like? >> good evening and thanks for having me. we have been very aggress ifr from the get-go. we were one of the first cases

to have the state. our approach has been don't wait. time is our enemy. that's the advice i'm receiving which is this is race to stay ahead of this virus. every minute matters. it buys us another day. >> are you closing schools? have you made that order yet? >> i have not. we have closed individual schools and day care centers

where there's been somebody that has tested positive. yesterday i shut down all events greater than 250 people. greater than 100 if it's elderly folks. i am not yet at the point of closing schools. we only have five cases. we have tested 130 people. only have five cases. schools are going to be one of my last calls. kids are doing better with the virus. many, many kids won't get fid if they go to school or they will be staying home with a grandparent. right now i'm holding the line that for the moment. >> it is that grandparent ississue. this is the double edged sword with the decision on schools. i totally get that. i don't think there's an easy answer on that one. what do you want to do that you can't do? mean whing what do you need fro the feds? >> federal, i wish they had done

a lot more two weeks ago. that's water under the bridge. learn from that now and step it up now. the feds need to get much more aggressive about sending to states the personal protective equipment that our health care folks need, masks, goggles, ventilators. the president ought to be calling on manufacturers, mobilizing this country to get us what we need on the front lines to fight this virus. the second thing is testing. they've been much too slow around testing and really have to pick up the pace as it relates to testing. >> your hospitals, the hospital bet issue seems to be overwhelming italy. some believes fema needs to acting and building temporary hospital bed units whether it's tent hospitals, whatever you want to describe them as. what have your hospitals told you? >> i would agree with that.

we're working for the best but planning for the worst. we have a lot of contingency plans in place to make sure that we can bring more beds online if and as we need to. what we're telling folks is this is going to get worse before it gets better. we know that. let's not sugar coat that and let's take action. >> unemployment insurance used as a way to do it, deal with paid sick leave, is that something you can -- these are -- the unemployment insurance is administered by the states, funded by the federal government. what do you hope congress does with this? >> pass it quickly. do it. chuck, i did that a week ago here in rhode island. monday of this week, i had emergency regulations allowing us to use temporary disability insurance so folks could take

time off for corona. we don't have time to wait. further more, i would say that's not nearly enough. the president is still talking about payroll tax deductions. fine. let's start talking about a stimulus. let's talk about sending funds and equipment and capacity to states immediately so that we can do the work we need to do to keep everybody safe. >> all right. governor, thank you for coming on and sharing your experience and views with us. much appreciated. good to see you. we're going to dig into some of the politics of pandemic, after this. the politics of pan, after this >> tech: don't wait for a chip like this to crack your whole windshield. with safelite's exclusive resin, you get a strong repair that you can trust. plus, with most insurance a safelite repair is no cost to you. >> customer: really?! >> singers: safelite repair, safelite replace. a lot of folks ask me why their dishwasher doesn't get everything clean. i tell them, it may be your detergent...

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desire to create a contrast to president trump's handling of the coronavirus. his spent much of his remarks about stopping the foreign transmission of the disease while praising his own administration's actions. >> our team is the best anywhere in the world. at the very start of the outbreak, we instituted sweeping travel restrictions on china and put in place the first federally mandated quarantine in over 50 years. the european union failed to take the same precautions and restrict travel from china and other hot spots. as a result a large number of new clusters in the united states receded by travelers from europe. >> joining me now, betsy woodruff swan, political reporter for the daily beast, for now. bet betsy, look, we know the desired contrast biden was looking for trump, but i want to stay with the president. whether he helped instigate the

crisis, 25 minutes or frankly what was the start of what felt like a one long response to -- the president didn't help we just don't know how much he hurt it. >> that's a diplomatic way of putting it. there were so many challenges and hiccups and problems in those remarks. the fact that he said we're banning travel from europe but then there were all sorts of european countries they're not banning travel from. they're only banning travel from the shengzen area, a free transportation portion. they aren't bang travel from ukraine or ireland. there were very senior government officials who didn't understand the distinction and who didn't understand which specific european countries were actually getting banned. and it took the administration quite some time to put the actual legal document on white

house.gov so people could figure out, does turkey count? does belarus count? on top of that, there was the misstatement about trade. the president said we're going to stop letting in trade from europe and all of a sudden, very quickly, the white house had to do cleanup on aisle six to say it's the opposite of that. >> i want to -- michael wrote the following, brendan, and maybe this will seem harsh. this wasn't the usual flatulent bluster aimed skwaurly at the fellas at the stupid end of the bar at mow's. he is still trump and couldn't help himself and had to call it a foreign virus. all he did is raise more questions than he answered and pepper in a few lies and smears. this is a rough but the larger point he was making was, maybe he should never have spoken at all last night. >> at this point, the country needs presidential leadership, so i don't fault him for trying that. why do you doon oval office address?

to show you're up to the moment. make them believe it's going to be okay. clearly he didn't do that. the markets, obviously, reacted that way and the follow-up today, i think one of the craziest things happening is the president has been in close contact with people who have been infected with coronavirus. so far, they are refusing to get tested. also, he's hanging out right next to the prime minister of ireland today. potentially infecting other world leaders. the fact he's not leading a little bit himself. the statement that could have sent that i'm going to take this self-quarantine. >> matt gaetz is self-quarantining. >> all kinds of members of congress are self-quarantining. that would show leadership. >> rick scott who i believe is self-quarantined for the same individual. it's my understanding, donna. >> here's the thing. we are already seeing that the president has no capacity to demonstrate the kind of leadership that we would all expect in a president and that was no more stark than it was

today when you heard remarks from both joe biden and from bernie sanders that sounded, frankly, far more presidential than what we got from the president of the united states. >> sanders should have done the teleprompter. i'm just saying. biden, clearly, they worked a little bit on this. professionalization, i'm sorry, there was just a difference between the biden backdrop and bernie kept looking down at his notes. nothing wrong with it. the words were -- >> the remarks themselves were strong and we can all analyze the delivery, but the point is that we should be expecting that from the president of the united states and when you have him making remarks where his administration then has to walk back several really key points in his remarks, it doesn't do anything to calm the markets, and it doesn't calm the american people. >> joe biden, if you were to design a campaign schedule for him, you wouldn't have been able to design a better schedule for him over the next couple of months where he doesn't have to do rallies or be out there every

day. i mean, and this campaign, i can only imagine where would the democrats be if they had to put a pause in this campaign in the middle of a delegate fight. >> i'm sure the biden team is pleased they didn't waste any money on those silly field offices they would have had to shut down anyway. and it's this amazing -- >> you can't ignore that. this timing is unbelievable for biden. >> it's wild. >> and it also has the potential to be politically beneficial to him because there is just not the extra mental space that many average americans have to spend thinking about ideological distinctions in the democratic primary. very low -- >> this is not -- >> it's really, really tough for him. this is an opening where he could make a case which is look at the countries doing best. it's countries that have really strong public health systems. nbc had a great piece about taiwan and about how that state has been able to really effectively limit and contain the coronavirus. part of the reason that the taiwanese are explicit about is because they have a robust

public health system. >> i want to take advantage of your knowledge of capitol hill deal making. we all have sources where you have -- there's republican lawmakers that are petrified the white house isn't handling this correctly but they can't publicly state it. how much are they driving, just cut a deal and let's go. >> this has been my concern for probably a year and a half now since nancy pelosi became speaker. the fact that there is no relationship whatsoever between the speaker of the house and the president of the united states. >> she and steve mnuchin get along well. >> i'm glad they're having those conversations. >> i work forward john boehner and paul ryan. they had disagreements with president obama but they were always able to have that private phone call and conversation and figure it out. >> they clearly are still friendly today. whatever relationship is built -- >> when you reach that level, there needs to be that relationship when crisis hits. and the fact we have a president and a speaker of the house who have not spoken in many months and refuse to apparently still

not speak to each other is just a really bad indictment of our politics and where we are. it could have real effects on whether they're able to pull together a meaningful deal. >> i think they can pull a deal together. one example of that was last week when they had to do the quick $8.3 billion. what happened is the house and the senate came together and then they put it on the president's desk. that's what's going to happen with this. i understand that they are actually closer than we're led to believe. the house is going to pass its bill and there will be something. >> mcconnell has new incentives to mitigate this for so many reasons. betsy, brendan and donna, thank you. and we'll be right back. knowing you're on the right path isn't always easy. that's why it's important to be prepared for anything life brings. at fidelity, we'll help you build a clear plan for retirement. one that covers health care costs, taxes, and any other uncertainties while still giving you the flexibility to make changes to your plan as often as you need. because when you're with fidelity,

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