good evening and welcome to "politics nation." tonight's lead, zero hour. earlier today a new normal here in the united states. another weekend white house briefing on the coronavirus pandemic. president trump making a brief appearance with vice president pence and the rest of his coronavirus task force, telling the american people to do as he says, not as he does. >> reporter: has your own sense of urgency evolved? and are you changing what you're doing? >> i've been urgent. this is urgent from me right from the beginning. >> why are you shaking hands, sir? >> because it almost becomes a habit. just take it nice and easy, okay? just relax. >> just relax, the day after the

president declared a national emergency while at the same time taking, quote, no responsibility for the failures in the united states' response, stemming the free fall on wall street while main street remains in disarray. as the number of coronavirus cases here in the united states has exploded to nearly 2,400 in the space of a week t, the numb of known deaths to 51. schools have closed across the country at the primary and university levels and health care workers are bracing for the outbreak to fully run its course in the days to come, knowing that it's likely to at least temporarily overwhelm them. and that's where i'd like to start tonight with those already on the margins of our systems as

this catastrophe claims more of our economy and stands to claim more of our health care resources. what does the response look like for already impoverished communities, the communities of color that were already on economic life support? joining me now democratic senator gary peters of michigan, the ranking member of the homeland security committee. senator peters, we are looking at a major situation in this country that washington has been slow to respond to. the president starting a couple of weeks ago talking about it was a hoax and gradually coming toward the center of it saying, well, it's something that we're trying to deal with, finally going to a national emergency and he announced that yesterday -- tweeted his support of a bill that was passed in the house but you tweeted, quote,

the senate should be in session right now passing the critical package to combat coronavirus that the house approved last night. there's no reason to delay. we must provide relief to families and workers with paid sick leave and unemployment assistance and make testing free, end quote of your text -- of your tweet. are you upset with mitch mcconnell, senator? >> i am. i mean, there's no reason that we are not in session right now. you mentioned at the beginning the slow response from the federal government has now created a bigger problem for us. there's no question we should have been much more aggressive in testing, something i've been calling on from day one, the fact that we are not testing the way we should means it's difficult to deal with had crisis, it's difficult to understand who has it, who doesn't, where the hot spots are, where you need to put resources. fundamentally we have to deal with the disease as quickly as

possible and the reaction we've seen from this administration is a lot slower than from other countries like south korea. to your point, we have to remember that folks are going to it be impacted in a significant way, not just from the disease but from the economy and those folks who can't work with home, who need to show up for work each and every day that are put at risk and also will be feeling the brunt of this impact, we need to be sure that we're helping people. that's why it's important that this legislation that passed through the house to deal with sick leave, to make sure folks who are unemployed because their businesses are shutting down still have the means to put food on the table, people that are able to get testing and not have to deal with co-pays, we need to make sure folks have health insurance coverage to deal with it. this can be a human catastrophe. we need to act now. we can't wait any longer. >> so for our viewers to clearly understand, the bill last night that gave paid sick leave and does some of what you talked about, ensuring people to get the kind of services they need

has not been officially put into action because the senate hasn't voted for it because mcitch m mcconnell has not called the senate in to vote it in in. >> that's right. mitch mcconnell sent us all home. we'll be back monday at 5:30. for all my democratic colleagues, we're happy to get on a plane, let's open up this session, get this bill passed and make sure we're focusing on making sure more testing is available for everybody. that has to be on an expedited course right now. >> now, putting the partisan politics aside because there were republicans that voted in the house for this bill, how do you as the ranking member of homeland security, how do you look at the whole course the president is taking, restricting

travel from europe, then now he's added restricting travel from england and ireland. i mean, what is the method that they're using to determine where they're restricting travel from? it just seems like to those of us outside of the beltway that they're operating on whims, that there's no real evidence of why they're making these decisions. >> i think you're absolutely right. we think it was really curious that the united kingdom was cut out of the first ban, particularly when you looked at the cases that were being reported. it was similar to what we're seeing in other european countries. in fact, there were a number of european countries that the ban was in place that had fewer cases than what you saw in the united kingdom. it doesn't make sense. it send a confusing message to not just americans but around the world who look to see how the united states is responding.

i'm frustrated often that different agencies seem to be putting out different messages, that adds to confusion. when you have confusion, people become scared and that's how you have more panic. we've got to settle folks down, understand that there is a coordinated plan that's moving forward but then we have to demonstrate it and we're not yet demonstrating that in terms of testing, which is absolutely essential. the south koreans were able to put together an incredibly aggressive testing program, hundreds of thousands of folks tested. you're now seeing south korea stabilizing the situation there and starting to move in a positive direction. they had their first case about the same time we had the first case here in the united states and that's where they are. we're just now trying to ramp up. it's simply unacceptable. we need to be sure we're focused on testing and making sure people's lives are being disrupted in a major way and putting some folks living on the edge already in a situation they may not be able to make mortgage payments, they may not be able to cover some of the basic bills

in life. this is a situation that requires immediate action. we've got to pass this bill as quickly as possible. but i think it's also to say this bill is just one action to take. we're going to need to do much more in the weeks ahead and the months ahead. >> all right, michigan senator gary peters, thank you for joining us tonight. i hope the president tweets that mitch mcconnell ought to call the senate back immediately since he tweeted his support of the bill. now let's bring in my next guest, democratic congresswoman ayana presley of massachusetts. congresswoman, as we look at this, there is deep concern about the underserved communities on how they are going to be tested, how -- if we can get the senate to pass what you and your colleagues did last night, how will that play out in areas that don't have a lot of health services in the immediate area? how do we deal with this?

>> well, what i've been focusing on, rev, in my role on oversight is certainly all those vulnerable communities already lefing on the margins, as you alluded to earlier. it has crossed every socio and political fault line in our country. when we're talking about our most vulnerable, our low-income residents and those experiencing homelessness and seniors and that we are also including the incarcerated men and women, who are amongst one of the most vulnerable populations and given the crowding and overpopulation in our prisons for a confluence of other reasons we won't get into in this interview, are an ecosystem in a petri dish for the spreading of this pandemic, which is why i partnered with my

colleagues, representative devel devel velasquez to use the follow power for guidance on how we will contain and mitigate this epidemic behind the wall. do they have access to testing, has anyone tested positive and what are the quarantine measures? the fact that many of these facilities are already subpar and they do not have access to soap, to alcohol-based hand sanitizers and regular showers, what is the guidance for those incarcerated and for staff? and that the b.o.p. use their full powers, i think now would be the time to commute some sentences, to exact clemency and to take care of our most vulnerable. 10% of those incarcerated are

over the age of 60 and already have an underlying condition. >> now, the b.o.p., the bureau of prisons, do they have a plan? have they responded to those lawmakers that have joined you in raising these questions? because we're talking about people's lives here. >> absolutely. and bearing in mind that 95% of those incarcerated will be released. this is an imminent public health threat for those currently incarcerated and ultimately will be released. they did respond to the letter, not within the time line that we outlined but their response was woefully inadequate. i'm encouraged while they have stopped visits, that phone calls will be free, but these are the sorts of basic things that should have been happening anyway, which is why i did introduce the people's justice resolution, a radical reimagining of our criminal justice system that centers the

humanity and dignity. we shouldity priva itbe deprivae calls, et cetera. and being charged for hand san fe -- sanitizer they can't use use themselves a unconscionable. >> now, we're seeing in some parts of the country, i know it's done in one contained area in new york mobile testing. what about in underserved communities that people don't have cars where they can even take advantage of that? >> again, every socio, political fault line is being highlighted and exacerbated in this moment. and we know that there are a great many inequities that exist because of a lack of access to affordable and accessible

transit. so mobile testing is certainly one thing to consider. again, this was a big twine ball and we realize the reverberating impact this pandemic will have on our health care system, families of every walk of life, our economies and those most vulnerable, our seniors, our low lo low-income and uninsured. >> this is not about being sympathetic to those who have committed crimes, though they should not lose their rights or their health, but most of them are going to be released anyway, many of them waiting trial. and if they are positive, they will go back into the community untested because the b.o.p. has not done anything to really set a format up to really test them and isolate them or quarantine them if in fact they are positive. >> that's correct, rev. again, that's why we are pushing

for the b.o.p. to respond and to offer clearer guidance and protocols. again, have testing kits been made available to them? has anyone tested positive for covid-19 and are they keeping safe those who work in these correctional facilities. >> thank you for being with us. >> danielle moody is host of woke pod cast and noah is an msnbc contributor. noah, you hear first senator peters saying come on, mitch mcconnell, call us back into session. the president in an uncommon move, though very much late i

might add, came out in support of the house bill, worked out something where he could at least in tweet agree with nancy pelosi, his secretary smuteven mnuchin work out a deal and the senate is out to monday. >> the senate republicans have been pretty much side lined. it's snuteven mnuchin and republicans negotiating this package. i'm of the mind it was appropriate for the president to consider the effects on the economy. the prospects of a recession will affect many lives, perhaps more lives than the virus and could be very damaging to american life and economic health. the problem -- >> it could also be damaging to his reelection, which is his concern. >> precisely, but let's assume good faith and assume that the president doesn't want to see the economy collapse. the problem that he faced is his efforts were not working.

every time he spoke the markets did not respond. injections of 5 trillion worth of liquidity into the economy had no effect because this is not an economic crisis, it a public health crisis. the president seals to have inevitably come to that conclusion and the problem is the virus and until we get a handle on mass testing and can isolate asymptomatic testing, markets are not going to respond, no matter how much liquidity itity we provide. >> there seemed to be no plan in place, no matter how long the white house stalled and dealt with other kinds of considerations, be they, as noah said, that the economic reaction, which could also damage people, but there seem to have been no plan in place until the house bill last night and

now that's on hold for 48 hours if mitch mcconnell doesn't call the senate back. is the lack of a plan and the denial by the president early in this that there was no danger, has that added to the anxiety and almost panic if not actual panic that many americans are having during this time? >> the fact is that the president's denial -- not only denial but play down, the fact that he called this a hoax, a democratic hoax two weeks ago, i can't think to myself enough about what we could have been doing during those two weeks when the president was at rallies calling the coronavirus a democratic hoax. he had an opportunity, we are on the same path that south korea has been on. we could have had testing, the w.h.o. had already had test kits they had put together. so the idea that this administration has said, oh, well, we are creating tests, tests have already been created. all we had to do was buy them.

so for me the trouble that i have with this administration is this president seems to be more concerned with the numbers and markets as opposed to people's lives and this, a public health issue. he said on tape he did not want the cruise ship to come into california because he wanted to keep the numbers low. a whistle-blower came out from the white house and said the president particularly did not want testing to be ramped up because it will hurt his reelection. these are things that we know. so i don't want to assume good faith because the president has told me everything that i need to know. what do i always say? when people show you who they are, believe them. this president has lied over 16,000 times, so why do we think in the middle of a pandemic that he's going to start telling the truth? why do we think he's going to put the interests of the country ahead of himself? he's never done that before. >> now, noah, explain something to me, if you can, because i can't figure it out. the president said even though he had contact and was around

people that had been deemed to be positive with coronavirus that he didn't see the need to be tested, he'd deal with it by and by when the morning come as we say in church. then all of a sudden he announced today he was tested miraculously. where was the change in heart or was it a change in political posture? >> or has it even happened? we don't frankly know. >> i thought you were the good faith man. >> well, my good faith only goes so far. >> i agree with you. >> the president's physician came out with a letter that night saying the president didn't need a test. part of the problem with this administration -- the president, not the administration, is that the power of example is absent. he is providing a series of guidances that we should follow, avoid physical contact, avoid mass gatherings, close mass gatherings and the president has declined to do that. in today's press conference, he hand the hand shaking thing is a

force of habit. i think we can all understand that. the defiance with which his campaign greeted calls to close mass rallies and meet-ups, that was inexcusable and that's the sort of thing i do think gives you pause and suggests maybe the president didn't have his heart into this thing. i believe he's coming around to it to the fact this was a genuine crisis but i don't think he was there earlier this week. >> as people around the world are dying than much higher rates than we have here so far, he's dealing with world leaders, he's dealing with people because we're in a global community that you would have thought would have at least sensitized him to the global outbreak that has now come home to the united states, yet he seemed to take his time. >> he took his time because he has put -- he has considered the idea that we are a global society. he's wanted to shut down borders, he put up bands.

first things that he did when he came into office. he doesn't understand the connectivity that is in the world right now. even in the press conference recently, he said i'm not going to talk about these other countries. how? how? we can see that by you denying what was happening in china and by you denying what was happening in italy, it was going to come to the united states. the united states is not an island upon itself. so the idea that he would continue to do that is problematic and we see it unfolding. >> he understood the world as he built trump hotels around the world. danielle moody mills and noah rothman, thank you for being with us. coming up, how the candidates are adjusting to this new phase of the primary race and how they're preparing for the next debate tomorrow night, one that will be held with no audience. be right back.

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i know that this is an incredibly anxious time for all our families. and my thoughts now are with the families in every state and quite frankly around the world who are fighting this coronavirus as well as our first responders, our health care providers who are putting themselves on the line to try to help people. >> we must massively increase the availability of test kits for the coronavirus and the speed in which those tests are processed. we need to anticipate significant increases in hospital admissions. >> both remaining democratic candidates for president are limiting their public events due to the coronavirus outbreaks. even sunday'si itdebate will lo different than any other. it's been moved from arizona to washington, d.c. and will go on without an audience. joining me now is democratic congresswoman marsha fudge of

ohio who has endorsed vice president biden. congresswoman, if joe biden was the president, how has he said he would have handled this crisis differently and what is he advocating be done now? >> you know, reverend, thank you for having me today. certainly in his speech on thursday he made clear what a president ought to be doing. he talked about listening to the science, he talked about having an accurate and honest assessedment assessed me -- assessment of where we stand as a nation, what we need to do to get people tested as quickly as possible and how we help our first responders and hospitals and those who have to deal with people every day who are ill. he talked about needing to do what the science tells us to do. i think that our president took a little long to do that and has still yet to give us an honest and accurate assessment of where we stand as a nation.

>> now four states are scheduled to go to the polls on tuesday, representing 577 delegates, but the candidates avoiding the campaign trail because of the public health concerns. will this impact turnout? because you are dealing in states that are extremely concerned. we don't have even the house bill that you and your colleagues passed even been voted on by the senate. will that affect turnout tuesday and affect the results? >> well, i'm from one of those states. ohio is voting on tuesday, as well as our florida, illinois and arizona. i am going to be doing everything i know how to doing an op-ed, doing some radio and other television locally to try to encourage people to understand that, yes, we have a pandemic, but you should not be afraid to still live your life. so we need to go out and vote on

tuesday. it is going to be safe to do. i've talked to our board of elections, they have already agreed and promised they're going to make sure they wipe down the machines, that they have sanitizer available. people know what we are dealing with. i just want to encourage people to not be afraid. yes, i am concerned that the vote may be held down just a bit, especially because just in the last few days in my own state we've closed schools all across the state. they're telling people don't go to church. they've closed casinos. they've done a lot of things that have led people to panic just a bit. but i am here to say that we need to take a deep breath, we need to calm down and we need to go about our lives and just be careful and do the things we've been told to do. >> now, the debate tomorrow night, no audience, live but no audience, will the fact that there's no energy coming from a crowd, that your one-liners will not have resounding applause,

will it change the nature of the debate in your judgment and make it possibly more substantive? and, secondly, will we hope the candidates will deal with this issue and others in terms of what the american people need to see being done by a president and not a lot of just personal attacks between these last two candidates that are debating and the last two that are standing out of this primary race? >> oh, i absolutely think that you're going to see something a lot more substantive. i also believe that you're going to see two men who are more presidential than the president we have. they're going to address the issues honestly, they're going to go in depth about what they think should be done about not just this issue but others as well. i think that unfortunately we've had so many debates, i'm hopeful that people will waf ttch the debate tomorrow. i think we have put people in a place, especially after the last

debate, where they don't seem to believe it is as important to watch but i this i this is the one you want to watch because now you're going to see the kind of substance and hear the kind of answers we've been looking for for the last year. >> the president has said now after first saying something different, no change there in his behavior, about being tested. he says now he's been tested. has vice president biden been tested? >> you know, i don't know the answer to that question, reverend. i'll ask the campaign but i don't know the answer. >> i see that the biden campaign has come out and embraced senator elizabeth warren's bankruptcy plan, which was not his position before. is that a way of trying to get senator warren to endorse former vice president biden? >> no, i think what it is is looking at a plan that was

better than the plan you have and saying, yes, it's good and we're going to incorporate it. i don't think that's the case. i'm sure he would be happy to have her endorsement but i don't believe that's why he has embraced and endorsed that plan. >> all right. i'll leave it there, ohio congresswoman marsha fudge, thank you so much for being on. >> thank you for having me. >> now to the camp of bernie sanders, joining me is the network president and co-executive director of the center for popular democracy. let me begin, jennifer, by asking you the same question. what has bernie sanders, senator sanders said he would do and have done and would be doing differently than president trump around this coronavirus crisis? >> thank you so much first of all forbes havi having me on yo. right now what senator sanders as are the rest of us are concerned about are people on the front lines, not just our health care workers, gig economy

workers, retail workers, home health care workers, folks who don't have the benefit of paid sick time, a collective bargaining agreement, an ability to take time off and care for themselves and their families. those are the folks that are at the heart of what his campaign is about, not me, us. how do we create a system where caring for each other and making sure communities have what they need is at the center of the discussion. while i agree both candidates will absolutely be better than president trump, only one candidate is talking about transforming our system so we are not building scaffolding around a crisis but instead we have the social safety net needed when a crisis occurs for people to be able to care for themselves and their communities. that's the vision senator sanders is offering and i think that is the presidential vision that we need right now in this country. >> he's a sitting u.s. senator. will he be calling and joining

senator peters and others in calling for mitch mcconnell to call the senate back into session to deal with the house bill that passed last night that addresses some of the very things you just outlined? >> i don't know whether or not he'll be calling that call. i certainly hope that he will, but what he has done is he has called for us to immediately respond by providing folks paid sick days. he has supported folks in florida, organizers in florida who have called for a moratorium on evictions and water shutoffs. he is very much looking forward not just to how do we get people tested but when a vaccine becomes available, is it going to be available to everyone, is it going to be universal and free? what senator sanders is doing is going beyond the how do we care in the immediate moment to talking about how do we create a system where this is the type of care we could expect. because let's remember that people didn't just need paid sick days because of the coronavirus.

these campaigns for paid family leave, paid sick days, universal basic income, these campaigns have been run in communities for generations who are saying when you leave us out, you actually put the rest of the country in danger. i think we're in this moment glad that people are understanding the need for basic social safety nets and are joining us in that call, but let's remember there's one presidential candidate who has been calling for these rights for the beginning and it's bernie sanders. >> now, senator sanders had a stark warning about what we can expect from the ongoing crisis. >> yeah. >> in terms of potential deaths and in terps of the economic impact on our economy, the crisis we face from the coronavirus is on a scale of a major war. and we must act accordingly. >> this kind of alarm, this kind of warning, is that what we're

going to see, that bernie sanders at the debate tomorrow night? or are we going to see the back-and-forth one-liners attacking each other as much as you can forecast? >> senator sanders i think is very much looking forward to a substantive debate. obviously the coronavirus and all of the americans and folks around the globe impacted will be at the center of that but i think he also wants to get into what is the country that our communities deserve? do they deserve a country that's behind the curve and isn't ready to deal with global pandemics and crisis or do they deserve a country that is rooted in how do we take care of ourselves? i think he'll take on the economy and say we cannot measure our economy just by wall street. we have to measure it by how many people have food on their tables, by how many people have a roof over their head. when we talk about immigration, there are millions of people who are being held in our detention

centers, children still being held in cages. bernie sanders is going to want to take that on considering joe biden is part of an administration that deported nearly 3 million folks from this country. so i think he will want to talk about the green new deal and our climate and energy policy, especially as things like, you know, folks are being told to wash their hands and at the same time receiving notices to shut off their water in their homes. so bernie sanders will have a debate that is measured and tempered, but there are real policy distinctions between these two candidates and before folks go out and vote on tuesday, we have to have that discussion. >> all right. just i'm out of time but just if you could give me a yes or no, are you concerned and is sanders concerned about turnout given this pandemic that we're dealing with in the states that you're running in on tuesday? >> we're concerned about turnout. it's why we need national vote by male and we're concerned

about disinformation online. folks got tho get on the phones and text and keep people informed, especially now that canvassers can't go to their doors. >> thank you for joining us. tune in tomorrow at 3 p.m. eastern, a team of experts will discuss all angles of the outbreak. we want to hear from you tweet your questions and stories with the #msnbcanswers or e-mail us talk @msnbc.com. in a matter of days americans across the country will be getting information about how to participate in the 2020 u.s. census. i'll explain why it's vital for people of color to take part and why you should avoid information coming from the trump campaign and the republican national committee. be right back. be right back. when you shop with wayfair, you spend less and get way more.

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i'm richard lui. this afternoon president trump made an unannounced appearance at a white house news briefing being held by his coronavirus task force. during the q & a he told the press corps there he took a test for covid-19 last night, now waiting for the results in the next day or two. this came after the president came in close contact earlier this week with an aide to the brazilian president who tested positive for the disease. vice president mike pence announced the u.s. will expand its 30-day travel ban between the u.s. and europe on monday at monday. passengers in the united kingdom and ireland will no longer be able to come into the united states. however, americans and u.s. legal residents in those restricted countries will be allowed to return to the united states. meanwhile, americans wait for the u.s. senate to take up a bill passed by the house of representatives early this morning. if passed and eventually signed by the president, it would dole

out billions for economic relief and aid for those affected by the coronavirus. both parties in the upper chamber agree we should act swiftly yet the body will not reconvene until monday. there are now 2,400 confirmed cases of the virus and 54 americans have died so far. johns hopkins counts 154,000 cases, almost 5,800 deaths. all that this hour. now back tofr over to reverend sharpton. >> thank you. over 300 years ago the first u.s. census was taken. at the time black americans were considered to be 3/5 of a human being by law. this week the 24th u.s. census commenced as the country reels from a continuing national catastrophe. and of course then there's the

coronavirus outbreak. and between the two, black and brown representation is once again under threat. has the trump administration has deliberately undermined its census participation by communities of color at the most crucial time, pushing last year for a citizenship question that was rejected by the supreme court, while house democrats just this week introduced bills to combat census manipulation after the republican national committee was criticized for sending out mailers that resemble census forms. joining me now, jennifer jones austin, ceo and executive director of the federation of welfare agencies. jennifer, i've known you most of your life, your father was my pastor. as i talk about what the trump administration has done, really trying to ignite some fear among

some that ought to be filling out the census, what the republican national committee has done sending out forms that look similar, how do you and other advocates, including me, in a nonpartisan way how do we overcome this to make people understand it's important that they feel out these census forms? >> interestingly what's happening right now with the coronavirus helps to bring home in the most plain and pofious way the importance of completing the census because the census determines how much federal funding flows for everything from child care, head start, housing vouchers, funding for fire houses, road repairs to emergency federal assistance in the event of a national crisis. a breakout such as the coronavirus it helps to determine where elderly persons are to provide support, where people need shelter.

so in moments like this we lean in and we say people who are trusted in the community have to lean in and help people understand you got to complete it. >> now how does that apply so people that are watching, hearing that but saying how does that determine that? is it not when we talk about as i have earlier on this show underserved communities in terms of health facilities, isn't a lot of those resources determined by the amount of people in those areas and if they don't fill out the forpms and they're undercounted? >> that's right. the government does this every ten years and everyone, regardless of whether you're a citizens or not, should be counted. trump and others tried to get immigrants to feel they shouldn't be a part of it and gauge engage in scare tactics. you only get counted once every ten years.

if you don't complete the census, then you're undercounting your neighborhood, your community, the city, the state and then the federal government that apportions government dollars, as well as house of representatives based on that census count is going to reduce the amount of money and the amount of u.s. house of representation that goes to your community. so you have to make sure you're counted. >> now, many civil rights organizations, national urban league, naacp and others, national action network that i head, am on the board push this saying that in black and communities of color there has been an undercount and there's been no real effort by this administration, like the past administration, to really push for them to in fact fill out the census, which could cost congressional seats, local seats and resources, money into those communities. >> absolutely. >> why is it so important, that's why i started this by

saying there was one time we were considered 3/5 of a man, then we had to fight for the right to vote and there's still people trying to impede that. why should we make sure we're fully counted now? >> first of all, because we have the right to be fully counted and if we do not complete the census our seselveourselves, weo continue to be undercounted. many children in black and brown communities need the support of head start and child care and housing assistance. all of that is determined by the census count. if we take ourselves out of it or we let the government take us out because they don't send the enumerators out the way they did before and now they've gone to online and many people in black and brown communities don't have internet access. if we as community and faith leaders don't step in and help people understand we need to be counted, we're all going to be undercounted and we're going to lose those vital resources for

school programs and food resources, snap, medicare, medicaid, these are resources our communities need. we still have lower wages on the whole when compared white ameri black and brown americans and paid less. so we have less access to resources to provide for the vital services? >> now, and, in fact, the part of the problem is the scare tactics with immigrants, people need to know you count everybody in your house, the children, everybody. >> everybody. and children under 5 are, you know, routinely undercounted. it's as though we forget about them. they have to be counted. they have to be counted. they need resources too. the other thing that people notice, they think that black and brown low income people are the ones who most often go undercounted. people like you and me, we don't complete the census either. we all need to complete the census. >> jennifer jones austin, thank you for being on and giving us that information. up next, my final thoughts. infn up next, my final thoughts ♪

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