a good day to you. thank you for spending your day us with. this hour the late thaest that know and questions we have but may not know the answers as of yet on the coronavirus. the president announcing to day that he has been tested for coronavirus. >> i took the test last night. >> did you? >> yeah. >> and i decided i should based on the press conference yesterday. people were asking did i take the test. >> when will you get the results? >> a day or two days. whatever it is. they sent it to a lab.

>> vice president mike pence, he is saying new travel restrictions will apply to the uk and ireland. in an effort here to keep the virus from spreading. as the u.s. surpasses 2300 confirmed cases of coronavirus today including at least 54 deaths and booip vote tipartisa passeded a package that includes free testing and paid emergency leave. the latest for us, we are live in new york city. scott cohen is in california. matt badly is in rome, italy and with me is joseph fair and nbc news medical specialist. straight over to our reporter, if you can give us the very latest. chris palone? >> yeah, richard, here in times square. we've been here throughout the day. and this is not normal for a saturday. let me give you a live look of what is going on in times square. very sparse. you can see, right now the

temperatures are the best they've been all day long. still, just a couple of dozen people gathering in times square in new york city. one cab driver i talked to described midtown manhattan right now as a ghost town. it seems that way. there is certainly some uneasiness, confusion about what people should be doing. we've seen so many things canceled. we've seen broadway shows gatherings of over 500 people canceled. the ash much diocese of new york canceled all masses throughout the region. yet, there are tourists here and yet there with people that want to go out and go to restaurants and do things. and so some are going out. some people are staying home. people are really, really confused. earlier today i talked with a tourist from ireland who coincidentally wouldn't be able to come here if his plans were a little later because of the new travel ban that was put into effect earlier today. and he was here with his wife and his young daughter. coming to their first trip to

new york. coming for st. patrick's day. the parade canceled for the first time in 258 years this week. and so i said, are you disappointed? you are happy you came? what do you make of it? what this is what he had to say? >> ordinarily, a day like today, this would be much more packed with people, you know, it's people are kind of unshoo you are what to do here. the brooed way shows are closed. things like that. what do you make of it all? >> yeah. well, it's a bit disappointing that it happened during our holiday. but, you know, we're positive people. people are positive here. they don't seem to be that much panic. there is more panic at home, actually. >> so people are trying to make the most of it that they can if they are here from out of town. but there is a lot of uncertainty in the last hour. we've just learned of the second coronavirus related death in new york state. this one actually happened, it was the first, technically, happened on thursday up in rockland county, a few miles

north of new york city. 65-year-old person who health authorities say had significant health problems in addition to the virus, passed away on thursday. that's in addition to a woman 82 years old in brooklyn who passed away from the virus here this morning. richard? >> chris palone, yes. i was seeing the same thing you're seeing. not a lot of people out right now. let's go to california. zmot. >> richard, souunnyvale is aboua third of the state's 240 cases are in this county. so people have been aware of this for a while. and as they start to get used to this kind of new normal that we're looking at and the weeks going forward, super markets like this are kind of on the front lines. >> we're going through unchartered waters and we're doing the best question. we've adhere to what the cdc recommends and have done the best cleaning possible job that

we can offer to our customers and our employees. >> basically, after today, i'm done with my shopping. i got my water. i got my, you know, my sanitary items. and i'm just going to just kind of limit crowds. >> you have seen the pictures from around the country of cleared out shelves. there are some of that here. the frozen food section is bare. some of pasta is gone. they sold the last roll of toilet paper. no alcohol wipes. they say the typical cart load here in the market in sunnyvale about $30 in the last couple days, it's been about twice that, more than $70 as people stock up and get ready to hunker down. richard? >> scott, thank you so much for the latest. now let's go to matt bradley in rome. matt, you're right in the middle of where we were talking about urine of the epicenter. now spain on the headlines. >> that's right, richard.

i've been walking around rome all week. it is really -- it's a ghost town. i've never seen a city of this size with this kind of culture like this and you mentioned spain. spain is following fast on the footsteps of this country of italy. so is france. we heard tonight that french are going to be closing all nonessential businesses. en that includes cafes, bars, restaurants, and base he cannily they're leaving open a lot of places, you know, grocery stores, essential services, offerously, pharmacies and hospitals. but it's hard to imagine paris without cafes and bars and restaurants. woint ha i wouldn't have been able to imagine rome like that either but i've been looking at it all week. it is silent in this city. it has been for most of the week. we've been watching police patrol around and threaten people on the streets with fines and jail terms up to three months and now italy has about

21,000 confirmed cases, about 1400 deaths. it's a major, major issue. they are the second most infected country in the world after china. the most in europe. so now spain and france are going to be following in italy's footsteps. a lot of europeans are saying america can expect that next. >> thank you so much, matt bradley, chris palone and scott cohen as we cover the united states and europe right now as we follow the fallout of the coronavirus. thank you all three. now let's bring in our doctors. i want to start with you. we look at what is happening in the united states and specifically if you're out there today, you're going shopping as you might on an average saturday, you're seeing something radically different than 24 hours ago, this s. this the right thing to do, stocking up on these items? >> being prepared is one thing. hoarding is another thing altogether. i mean, you know, we've said a

few times today we're all in this together. >> right. >> but a two week supply of nonperishable items, we don't really -- we're not really worried about the water supply. i don't think that is an absolute must. we should have running water that is not contaminated. and i'm very -- i feel very strongly about making sure that people do have their essential medicines for at least two weeks. certain things you can stop for a couple nights and no harm will come to you. but certain things can have some dire consequences. >> i was just in an icu unit this past thursday as well as as in a hospital looking at the normal beds in that particular facility. i was watching how the rns were reacting to new policies being implemented in front of our very eyes. what have you seen, you being a practicing doctor in terms of the facilities and where they are today? >> well, i can -- i can only speak for my own hospital system. i can tell you that they have been preparing for weeks. they have daily meetings. we're now getting a daily

newsletter. we have regular town halls so that the clinicians understand protocols in terms of evaluating and now referring patients for testing which i'm happy to say will be up and running with the outpatient testing facility. >> what will that be like? >> so right now, it's still strict. and i should say, i should say stringent when it comes to, you know, recommending people for testing. its'ju it's not going to be just anybody that comes in and has mild symptoms. we can talk about those nuances. but there is a very specific algorithm from the doh about whom should be referred for testing. >> do you feel good where we're at and where we're going? >> do i feel good about where we are and where we're going? >> i feel that we're certainly finally where we need to be. doctors now have a tool in the toolbox to actually get the

first step done that is necessary and that is to diagnose, identify, and then isolate and contact trace. >> right. >> so, yeah, i'm happy about. that we're playing catchup. >> doctor, this hour one week ago we had about 400 cases. we've got over 2400 right now. about 2400. we've gone up by 2,000. we've gone up by 500 two days ago. so far, 220 or more. lots of numbers, i know. but we still have not hit the peak yet, have we? >> we have no idea where we are on the peak itself. we have no idea where the line is going. >> i mean hockey stick. how quickly are we going to go up? >> you know, if we know about 2500, we can assume three to four times that minimum. that is 2500 lab confirmed case that's we may know about. so three to four times that. that's not including the case that's swrecases that we haven't tested. >> so when we turn around, spain

at 84. but now has the reporting been spain is a big concern in europe at the moment. >> absolutely. >> spain is experiencing what italy experienced a couple weeks ago. spain is closing down all the services. the icus are overrun. they went from a state of the hospital is kind of emptying out in the beginning because of people afraid of catching covid-19 in the hospital to now essentially every other ward being turned into an icu. >> so we look at other countries. learning lessons from perhaps taiwan right next to china. another example may be singapore. but what you are seeing in terms of those models of the peak? that hockey stick then coming down. how might that apply to america? >> post sars, those countries in particular really invested heavily. billions of dollars in preparing for the next sars. they said that was such a big loss to their economies. they could never endure that again. and they would not endure that again. and when you look at those two countries in particular, they're

the two handling this the very best. that being said, we have spent more money ourselves as a nation than all other nations combined in pandemic preparedness, biodefense, and response post letters and we still find ourselves in the condition we are. and, you know, there is probably a lot of reasons and far too long for me to go into on air. but, you know, there is many agencies responsible for the biodefense of this nation that's what we use to say, you know, stay prepared for this. but it's been disjointed and even though we've invested the billions of dollars, we've seen very little return. >> i called you up. i'm one of your patients. what do you need to tell me that is new that we learned that i should know about? >> i'm one of your patients. i call you up, doctor, give me the latest. what is the new thing i should know about? >> you no he what, richard, right now the biggest difficulty i think we have for a lot of doctors in this country is that we treat patients who had on medicine that

medicines that suppress the immune system. as of now, the recommendation from cdc from different medical organizations is that everyone kind of sit tight. don't discontinue things. and all that might change. so as i am listening to what is happening and learning about more, you know, cases and potential susceptibility, you know, that guidance might change. >> right. >> people are concerned. everyone's asking, you know, i'm -- this age and i have this medical problem. should i go to the grocery store? i mean, you know, people want very practical answers. and i sort vf to sof have to sa not a one size fits all. >> i was looking for hand sanitizer. should i make my own? should i >> the answer really is no. you know, at the risk of making it too concentrated, it's very irritating and drying to your hands if the alcohol content is greater than -- you know, too high. if it's not high enough, then it's ineffective. the world health organization doesn't recommend it.

there are no homemade alcohol containing sanitizer recommendations on the cdc website. >> quickly, big data. how can that help us? it helped taiwan. >> big data is helping us if forecasting disease, period. forecasting if we're going to see something coming. but as well as managing the disease itself. so everything from airline travel to economy to, you know, how many case questions expect to see based on modelling. putting those all together. johns hopkins has a great site about the projections and take all that data into account. >> it'sing something you know . >> yeah. big data is coming more and more into play including ai. this is driving how we're detecting cases in the first place k we detect faster through ai than we can through an actual human? a recent study showed, no, not quite yet. very close. >> quickly, where will the united states end up on this list? we're not even here in obviously what we have on the wall. >> we're at number eight right

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job done for them. so we thank our republicans, those who will be supporting the bill. we appreciate the president joining us with his tweet. it is very nice to see it. probably in cooperation. i want to thank secretary of treasury. >> the president is offering rare praise for each other for the houses coronavirus bill which passed overnight and praised by the secretary and offers relief to families during this very difficult time. free sesting, increased paid emergency leave, streng unemployment insurance and more money for medicaid, all things that speaker pe he losy would be included in any aid package.

the senate is on a three day hiatus and has yet to announce when they'll vote on the bill. it will be monday, as of now before the president can actually sign it. for more on this let's bring in our florida congressman charlie crist. he voted to pass the coronavirus bill. thanks for being with us. >> thank you, richard. great to be with you. >> i want to update you. the latest numbers we have here that nbc news confirmed. we are now up as of this hour to 2,662 cases. now up to 57 deaths to date. now that means that just within this day, we've had 500 more cases. >> wow. >> we're getting the numbers as we speak. in florida, what are you watching that is very essential? >> the kind of numbers just talked about. how many people have been affected? how many people have lost their life as a result of it? here in florida, we're up to 83 people affected.

>> i heard earlier today that italy is getting impacted significantly more and that it may look as though the united states can be on a similar track fairly soon. that is troublesome:that's worrying. and, you know, we can do everything question to get as many tests as possible. i was disappointed that we didn't have greater preparation and being able to have the tests. i went to school with a friend that got the virus. in a tough spot. doing better today than yesterday. friend in south florida. it's everywhere. and we need to do everything question to help our fellow americans and fellow people that live in the world.

this is mission number one. >> do you hear the offset of what the doctor is telling us in the last segment, united states is going to hit number two before we start to fall in cases. look for that first is what he said. we have a lot ahead of us if his estimations are right. do you think the bill is big enough for that? >> well, you know, it's going to take whatever it takes. and i can tell you, you know, from the attitude myself and many of my colleagues in washington, whatever you have to do in order to make this right is what we have to do. it's like world war ii. when that broke out, we were attacked. i was december 7th. the japanese tackattacked us. america turned in an incredible

machine. maybe this thing is waking a sleeping giant too. i think we slu been further ahead of the case than we were. and better prepared going into it. other countries have handled it better than we have. i think that, you know, leadership needs to step up. hopefully that's happening. starting with a bipartisan effort to get this passed. 12:30 i voted for it. i think it's going to make a big difference. it's going to help kids get food that need it. the government will pay for them on their behalf. i think we're hitting the right notes. and, you know, the acceleration needs to be faster, stronger, better. >> on that note, representative, you stood out. you wrote a letter to the cdc. you were hoping that some of the qualifications, the very issue -- excuse me, the very way they determine cases should be changed. what were you asking for and why? >> asking for better.

for faster. you know? get the job done. it's kind of simple. the idea is, you know, center for disease control. right? in atlanta. and so if we're not getting the kind of information that we need in order to respond appropriately, then they need to step up and do better. my job is to hold people accountable when i think that they're not being accountable and not doing enough to get the job done. and so sending a letter from a member of congress has a certain level of effect. and that's why senate and hopefully it will have the intended effect and people will respond better at the cdc so people like you and i and all our fellow americans get better treatment and faster results. >> representative, one can only hope that silver lining of this difficulty that we're facing right now and in the future might lead to something better. do you think that this might mean more work and a bipartisan way based on what you saw happen overnight? >> it was refreshing, richard.

the president stepped up and encouraged the republicans to vote for the bill. obviously, speaker pelosi did the same with the democratic members. that is an encouraging thing to see. you know, when america is facing a situation whether it's domestic situation such as this as it relates to disease or a foreign situation where it's, you know, a military engagement, you know, we all have to stick together. i know there are republicans, democrats, independents, but at the end of the day, richard, we're all americans first. and i think that's what we have to remember and we did last night. i'm very proud of that. >> charlie crist, thank you sir. have a very good afternoon. >> thank you, sir. you too. my pleasure. >> my panel now joins me. home team here first. what do you think if you were to kick off on what the representative was saying about

potentially this is a seedling of working together in a bipartisan fashion. not only on this issue but potentially others? >> i think it's several of our nbc colleagues reporter for nbcnews.com today, the white house bungled the initial response to this for several weeks. we're trying to get that back on twr track with a full government response to see what they're seeing and trying to get testing done for everybody who is in need of it and for whom it is recommended. trying to get paid sick leave for people. trying to give americans a sense that the government is able to work together in a crisis which not only has the sort of health effects but also may give some

confidence to investors and to businesses. >> one of the big questions here, maria, we were saying to the representative we got new numbers from our cases. they can be trailing in the numbers. this is a lot of time. >> i think we need to learn to balance. that is really important for all of us, especially the people watch is this. they have an extraordinary panel for education and we begin to understand, i'm not downplaying. but i also want us to understand that many of us are going to be

okay. and so that hoarding that we've seen, that kind of attitude, that level of anxiety, not helpful. we're qugoing to put a moratori and people not getting utilities shut off. that's an illusion. i'm concerned about the people that were not able to see, you know, the people who can't take an uber to the er, the people that can't get to the grocery store or freelancers and are losing all of their gigs. whether this bill is big enough, you heard me ask representative, is it big enough based on where they're trending it, is there a possibility? let's go back to that other question, can you address that too if you like. a possibility of the senate from what you're hearing? they might come back earlier to

vote on this? >> well, we saw senate majority leader mitch mcconnell. he tweeted about the house passing the bill and said the senate is going to have to review it fully and go through all of the provisions in it that have been hashed out between the white house and, of course, speaker nancy pelosi yesterday. i think having president trump's approval is the thing that a lot of people in congress were holding their breath. they are waiting to see him put his stamp of approval on that because it gives momentum for senate republicans to vote yes on the bill and move some of these important provisions we're talking about things like testing and testing for people uninsured and food initiatives as you were talking about earlier for people who might have food insecurities. if they have a gig economy sort of job.

>> we have seen senator rubio say he wants to add something in for the small business committee. if it doesn't happen in this package, it is possible we'll see more emergency packages moving through congress. you ask about this being a seedling for bipartisan action. the government is working together for the first time in a long time to address this crisis. so, you know, an open ended question as to what else might come. >> my panel is going to stick with us. coming up, the stock market surges after the president declares a national emergency. this after weeks of turmoil in the markets. but one hass to ask, what happens monday? e hass to ask, w happens monday i don't add up the years. and i don't count the wrinkles. but what i do count on is boost high protein. and now, introducing new boost women...

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just under half hour, all none essential businesses in france and is riz closing doors to stop the spread the coronavirus n the united states, we've seen a surge of cultural and sporting event cancellations. you heard about them. store closures as well. most notably april this will morning announcing it will be suspending businesses at more or -- suspending business at 450 stores across 21 countries, that until march 27th. the closures come after a chaotic week on wall street that ended on a surprising strong note. joining us now, join the panel as well. ron insana, ron, where do we start? zblr what does this mean for them? if we're closing stores, if restaurants are not operating, tips are not happening, people are not getting in cars, you know the store you. >> yeah. people are being at least temporarily put out of work. it's likely this can go on for

two months. that's a long time for anybody working hourly, probably doesn't have six months of reserves to get through this particular experience. most american families don't have $400 in excess cash to get through this. i would argue, richard, we're in recession. you are likely to see what is happening in the energy patch where prices collapsed. we're going to see if not temporary, some very real layoffs in the near future. >> what you are hearing from ceos and leaders of the s&p right now around when they see the opening. >> maybe quarantining people six months. that's what the standard argument is that we'll see two

quarters of recession and then a v shaped recovery. people have to feel comfortable getting on mass transit and planes. we can stayed in after 9/11 but we're seeing a big federal response from the federal reserve and federal government. >> are we getting away from the exuberance of you are critical of the increase in the markets, of the employment? the market is overvalued. this is an excuse and reason to sell. so the market is becoming much more fairly valued. this is the fastest single bear market we've seen in wall street history. we are down 28% in about 3 1/2 weeks. in the way the markets reacted, what are you seeing? >> well, there are pieces of all of these prior crashes in this event.

this really added to the down draft. we're also seeing a slowdown globally which was happening anyway. you saw a minus 6% print on gdp before the coronavirus was an issue. the world was slowing down. and so this is just really made it that much worse. >> could be released valve or an amplifier is what you're saying. >> yes. >> mortgage rates might be the silver lining for those who can refinance today. what you are seeing? >> absolutely. do it. you have a yield on ten year note against which many mortgages are based or benchmarked at just under 1%. is you're looking at a 3, 3.5% 30 year fixed. and we're going to see a slightly delayed reaction. they could be lower next week. >> next week even lower? >> yeah. if you can refinance and you have the ability to do it and we're going to see a surge in refinancing. it already started.

so people who can should. >> okay. i'm going to finish nerding out with you. >> seriously as this. we're hanging out here. i have to get all i can out of this. >> one thing we shouldn't be doing is, in fact, obsessing over, for example, our -- and we're again speaking from a ridiculous amount of privilege, we should not be rushing to -- i'm trying to stay away from that. >> as we like to say, panic is not a strategy, right? granted, there were pockets of this market that were overbought and wildly exuberant. they have become in some ways potentially dangerous down the road. there may be pockets implode in credit strunlts as we've seen in prior periods. when you have a decline like this, there is collateral damage. the president saying he would like to demote jay powell and that was reported in "the new york times" earlier today from his public comments, is not

helpful. we need stability and we need strong financial direction. >> two are saying hold on a second. we're going to see an uptick. don't get on that. >> i'm not saying that. we're not out of the woods outside either. >> and finally, is that bill big enough? you remember when we were in '07 and '08, was it bug enough at the times? >> united airlines may seek government assistance. it's going to be true domestically and internationally. the energy sector of this country is going to get hit very hard. travel and tourism is going to get crushed. >> so not big enough? >> not yet. it's going to take some really enlightened thinking on how to adjust for this. this is not a financial crisis. this is an economic problem exacerbated by health care problem. >> ron insana, always great to you have here. you're so light on the details

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the public health crisis that we're living through has become a testing ground for the democratic presidential contenders. and there are two separate visions for the future of american health care. first, there is senator bernie

sanders of vermont who has taken the opportunity to tout his medicare for all plan. take a listen. >> how could it be that when we spend so much more than what other countries are spending, we have millions of people who may be dealing with the virus but who cannot go to a doctor because they cannot afford it? that is a question that must resonate in every american's mind. if this isn't a red flag for the curre current dysfunctional health care system, frankly, i don't know what is. >> joe biden who argues that there is no matter what sanders is proposing as you heard a little bit there and he also says, vice president biden says, what the potential benefits would be, he said he has a plan that will actually pass. biden began by saying he would cover any medical costs related to coronavirus before making this pitch.

>> here's the main thing. i can get this passed. we can get this passed. and we have to get it passed quickly. and even bernie acknowledges it's going to take four years to pass this plan. and then it's going to take longer time beyond that to get it implemented. we need to assure people we can do this quickly. >> and you may have noticed something a little unusual about the town hall from joe biden. in the wake of coronavirus, it became a virtual town hall in the end. i'll explain more about that and sunday's upcoming democratic debate right after this. upcomic debate right after this. ♪ ♪ ♪

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welcome back. the 2020 election has also been affected by the coronavirus. all three campaign, sanders, biden and trump have gone virtual. staffers are working from home, campaign events are now online, the dnc moved tomorrow's debate from phoenix to washington, d.c., and there will be no live audience or spin room or media area. they're attempting here to curb the coronavirus spread. the next primaries are this tuesday in arizona, illinois, florida and ohio. my panel is back with us now. jonathan, i guess the question is we're watching the debate tomorrow. what will be the right tone that each candidate must present to those voters that might go one way or the other? i think we saw a little bit of a sample of that in some of the sound bites we played before the break. >> absolutely, richard.

look, i think the tone for vice president biden is that he can run the nation seriously and effectively and do it from day one without any training. that's been his message all along. he's used it as a contrast against president trump, he's using it as a contrast against bernie sanders. i think sanders is going to make the argument that what the establishment, as he calls it, has been doing, whether it's republican or democratic is not doing enough. even now is not doing enough for americans who have been left out of that system, whether you're talking about the working class or you're talking about the poor in this country, i think you're going to hear a pitch from bernie sanders that talks about so many americans who are not the first to be considered, who are not the beneficiaries of some of the relief that goes to the big companies, some of the relief that goes to wall street, but both of these candidates are going to present themselves as better alternatives to president trump. >> you were talking about sanders.

meredith, let's talk about biden. he may go back in history, maybe to his benefit and maybe not, he can talk about 9/11 being in government, he can talk about '07 and '08, implementing what was the largest bailout package that we've seen up to that point. >> that's one of the things during this coronavirus that we've seen happen is seen joe biden, bernie sanders really try to contrast themselves with president trump. they've done speeches to be sort of a foil to how president trump has handled this whole scenario and his leadership style and independent sure that that's going to continue because for them and for a lot of americans they're looking at this and the coronavirus has really put a magnifying glass on issues like health care, issues like the economy, and they're going to be chipping away at the president's records on especially health care, which is something his team knows is more of a weak point for them. >> you can look at our nbc delegate count, look at the latest morning consult, online

poll as well and if you're bernie sanders, you've really got have a breakout debate you have to have breakout tuesday on top of that. might he double down on what has been said already on this panel, look at that area of the working class, the area who is economically challenged right now? certainly in this coronavirus period there are super challenges for these groups. >> yeah, but the concern that i have is about turnout. i mean, i look at florida, i look at illinois and i'm just really concerned about turnout. for bernie sanders, a big part of his success has been latino and latina voters. will we see that in florida? i think that's a big question here. but, again, will they actually be inspired enough to come out at this time. i think what people really feel right now is actually my 24-year-old son was the one who said, look, it's really weird that we don't feel like we're getting direction from the federal government. it's all coming from corporate america. that's kind of making it seem

like things can work within this context. so i think what people want to see from these candidates is a steady hand, somebody who can speak with authority and know -- have a sense that we're getting the truth. it's a tall order. >> meredith, if you're looking at what pivoted the election, 2016, one way or the other, are the working class voters, if you will, and the forever asked question, the minority segment, whether they turn out or not plus youth. based on what we're seeing right now in the headlines, which does it benefit more, the republican nominee or democratic nominee? >> one of the things with bernie sanders, for example, a lot of his base in addition to latino voters are young college students who are now being displaced as their colleges are calling them to go home and get off campus. so you do have to wonder about the turnout there and if they're going to show up for bernie sanders. and then with president trump, you know, one of things i've

wondered just with his campaign in general with this coronavirus is this is something that's affected now 49 states, it an issue that every single american citizen is being faced with. it's really one of the first issues that has come up recently that has that sort of magnitude. so turnout of course, though, with sanders throughout all this will be interesting to watch. >> one of these questions that we may not know the answer to but we are going to focus on as we make it through sunday and tuesday. meredith mcgraw, thank you so much, maria, jonathan, as always, we very much appreciate your expertises. tonight, watch a special encore presentation of "on assignment outbreak" only on msnbc at 8 p.m. eastern. thanks for being with us today.

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the worldwide disruption is like something from a movie. as of this moment, there are nearly 4,000 coronavirus cases in the united states and more than 50 deaths across the country, numbers that are doubling every few days. two new states, montana and idaho today announced cases. the president has