♪ qwelcome to "kasie dc." >> new federal guidelines to be released with anything and everything on the table. including closing bars and restaurants across the country. we'll consider strategies with two former cabinet secretaries. kathle kathleen sebelius and david shulkin. >> we have katie porter here.

now the administration has committed to cover the cost. and later, congressman tim ryan wants to start giving many americans $1,000 a month to weather this health crisis. he'll join us live, as well. but first, a sudden and historic change to the american way of life. businesses shuddered. bars and restaurants in ohio closed beginning tonight. and new york city school system, the largest in the nation, set to shut down tomorrow. and the federal reserve tonight cutting interest rates to zero. we're also seeing chaos at airports around the country as workers scramble to implement new procedures for passengers from europe after the president imposed new restrictions this week. in chicago, as people stood in line for hours, illinois governor tagged the president in a series of tweets one of which reads, quote, the federal government needs to get its blank together now. here's the governor this morning on "meet the press." >> i got a call about 11:00 last

night after that tweet from a white house staffer who yelled at me about the tweet. that is what i got. we are on our own out here. i wish we had leadership from washington. we are not getting it. >> nbc/"wall street journal" poll says 3 out of 4 americans trust the state governments in the crisis. almost half have confidence in the president breaking strongly along party lines. the known death toll here in the u.s. over 60 and confirmed cases over 3,000. in a press conference at the white house moments ago, dr. fauci said the worst is yet to come. >> as i've said many times and i'll repeat it, the worst is ahead for us. it is how we respond to that challenge that's going to determine what the ultimate end point is going to be. >> white house officials also announced in that briefing that 1.9 million coronavirus tests will be made available this

week. we'll discuss the updates with former secretary sebelius in a minute. first, the chaos at airports across the country. cathy park joins us from jfk airport in new york and we have reports of been very bad at chicago, and dallas and dulles. what is it like at jfk? >> reporter: hey. good evening to you. yeah. the updates continue to come in at a dizzying speed. the restrictions and closures are growing across the country. we heard that new york city public schools closed starting tomorrow. meanwhile, airports as you mentioned across the country, the major airport hubs including here at jfk, many travelers are having to wait several hours in line. these are some of the images that have been posted of those coming in from the countries that have this restriction in place. we are told at minimum here at jfk the wait time is still two hours.

heightened states of emergency across the nation as cases soar above 3,000. elected officials taking measures to keep people safe. illinois and ohio closing all bars and restaurants beginning tonight. california shutting down bars and wineries and asking those 65 and older to self isolate. >> we recognize around the rest of the world to meet this moment head on. >> reporter: new york city mayor closing all new york city schools affecting more than 1 million students starting tomorrow. >> there is a real possibility that by closing our schools now we may not have the opportunity to reopen them in this full school year. >> reporter: puerto rico declaring a cur few and closing all nonessential businesses and more than 40,000 residents in new jersey ordered to self

quarantine. during this public health crisis, major retailers are also going dark, bars and restaurants could be next in new york city. >> every option is on the table. this is a crisis that will be with us, first of all, i believe, at least six months. >> reporter: meantime, confusion leading to chaos at u.s. airports under the administration's european travel ban. lines stretching for hours in new york, dallas and chicago's o'hare. beth described the 30-hour travel nightmare. >> it felt like being in some sort of dystopian novel not knowing if we were going to be quarantined or spend nine hours we will be in the air, things had become so bad on the ground in the state that is they didn't want us to get off the plane for those safety reasons. >> they should have increased the customs and border patrol numbers and should have increased the number of cdc p m personnel on the ground doing the checks. they did neither of those.

>> reporter: and for those who are coming back from those restricted countries, there is that extensive screening process which is leading to the hang-up including here at jfk. we are told that this screening process looks like this. you are asked about your travel history, also your medical history. if you are showing any sort of symptom, symptoms related to the coronavirus, you are guided to a cdc official. if you are not symptomatic, however, given a brochure which gives some guidelines of what to do in a 14-day self quarantine. >> kathy park in new york for us, thank you. joining us now dr. kathleen sebelius, former secretary of health and human services under president obama and former governor of kansas. always good to see you, madame secretary, but not under these circumstances. look. americans as you well know look at scenes like we just saw at the airport and they're worried about what's happening, worried

of what the government is going to do. the way anthony fauci put it, consider everything and anything on the table with the new set of guidelines to be released tomorrow. what do we need to do right now to mitigate what we are seeing? >> well, first of all, let me clarify. i am not a doctor and i hope people listen to people who are, who are the medical scientists like anthony fauci. but we are still in the same situation we were a couple of weeks ago, talking about we desperately need testing, broad-based testing because we don't know in the united states how frequent this disease is appearing, who's asymptomatic, walking around with covid-19, showing no symptoms and can give it the others and then frequency. what are the patterns of people -- we think we know. older people, people with some kind of an immune system

deficiency, underlying health situations and what is happening is blanket restrictions being made. everybody is self isolating. everybody is withdrawing. so testing broadly, getting that pattern and frequency established and then making subsequent rules and regs based on what we know and telling people honestly what we still don't know would be really helpful. >> seems to be some good news finally related to tests. 1.9 million tests that should be available starting tomorrow. so we have got this spike in cases but we have also got this expanded availability to track the infections. what does this mean in real terms as you see it? >> well, i think what it means, and dr. fauci's absolutely right, if we start testing broadly, we know cases will go up, we know there are people with covid-19 who have not yet been identified so a rise in

cases is not necessarily bad news but gives more information to the epidemiologists. the tests will come i think in phases. we need to make sure that people with symptoms get tested firsz and get the help that they may desperately need right away. we need then health care workers to be tested. the worst of all worlds to have a doctor or nurse wonderianderi around when he or she may have covid-19 and not even know it. we need to start doing broader testing so it is going to be a while to catch up but the more information we have i think the smarter decisions people can make. i'm really pleased that governors have stepped up and are making policies based on the health and well-being of citizens, closing schools, making sure that people are going to be safe, making sure that large gatherings are being

canceled and thank god for the house of representatives and nancy pelosi taking the lead, looking at driving some money into people's pockets in this economy. i live in lawrence, kansas. not only are we in march sadness because there's no basketball being played, but the bars and re restaurants are in the process of shutting down. the university is shutting down. it's a huge ramifications. we have people who are not able to go to work because the schools have just shut down so we are seeing even in a smaller community ripple after ripple effect and people really are still operating in the dark. so getting information, letting people know what we're doing next and knowing what -- when they can get real information will be really helpful. >> new york city schools, for example, announced to shut down starting tomorrow. that's 1.1 million kids. >> you bet. >> many homeless, many depend on schools for child care, for

food. they're making plan to deal with that. but could you see a case where while we are getting the new tests up and running, schools across the country should be closed while we get our handle on exactly where we are and where the biggest threat is? >> well, i think many of the school districts are ahead of our conversation. ohio schools are closed throughout the state. new york city was one of the last big districts to make that decision. california schools are closed. so i think governors are seeing absent real information, a better to be safe, better to have people be protected and the balance is very tricky as you just said. children are often safer in a school setting where they get fed breakfast and lunch, where they're not roaming around with no one to watch them. i think the ramification of children not being in school is that many parents will not be able to go to work. so having work at home policies,

making sure people get paychecks to pay the rent and buy the food that they need and take care of one another is really important and it's just a time that i think we have never seen before in this country. the other question is, how long will this last? i just heard one of your previous guests talk about six months. people are saying. will make another determination at the end of the month of march but nobody really knows the duration we are talking about and won't know a lot until we do massive testing. >> that's kathleen sebelius, former secretary of health and human services and governor of kansas, thank you. now dr. david shulkin, the former secretary of veteran affairs, led and run major hospital systems in new york and philadelphia. thank you for making time for us. >> glad to be here. >> also author of "tshldn't be this hard to serve your country." and speaking of veterans, there

are currently four confirmed cases of covid-19 and 21 presumptive cases that the va is tracking. what do you think should be done right now for the veterans population? i'm the son of a veteran who relies tremendously on the va hospital for a lot of his care. what precautions do you think need to be taken specifically for that population? >> well, as you know, many of our veterans are older americans. and are extremely vulnerable. so i think particularly those that are in va nursing homes, but also veterans out there, have to be very cautious and i think the advent of increased testing, the readiness of our va hospitals to take care of those veterans i think is extremely important and the va prepares hard to do with this. what i would like to see in addition is using the national emergency to expand the authorities for va to work closer with the private sector

so that we can take advantage of both the capacity that the va has but also veterans do need help, that it is easier to reach out to the private sector partners. >> secretary, as you well know, the department of veterans affairs is the backup system for national emergencies. should americans take comfort in that or worry given what we have heard of staffing shortages? >> no. i think they should take comfort in that. the va is largest integrated health care system in the country, employs more doctors and nurses, has the capacity to handle a lot of volume and i think that this is a time that we should be executing on some of those authorities that allow the va to be there in times of national emergencies and to use the equipment and the staffing, of course, the house bill that just passed gives extra funding to the va and the department of defense and what we really need is a coordinated system between the federal government, local government, state governments and the private sector to

respond to what's really an unprecedented crisis that we are seeing and a time that can really be dangerous for many americans. so we don't want to be dehind in this. we want to be looking proactively to use those authorities for as much planning as we can. >> nbc news reported that there are no coronavirus tests available for coalition troops in afghanistan. how do you think the military should be handling this outbreak on its end? >> the military, of course, is, again, at high risk with locations around the world, with people who live in close quarters. just think about those in submarines and on ships, for example. and the military has been very proactive in this. quick to limit cancelation, cancel leaves, were doing screening earlier than we saw many other places. and so, they're tagging it very seriously. the primary concern of the military from a health perspective is troop readiness and they certainly want to be on

top of this. so taking the precautions that they' they've done i think have been prudent and useful and they have to stay on top of this to work closely to make sure that this doesn't spread quickly throughout the military. >> former va secretary dr. david shulkin, thank you very much. plenty more to come this evening. at the top of the hour, coronavirus. speaking to congressman ruse of california, he was an e.r. doctor before joining congress. >> first chris van hollen on reasons for optimism and whether the senate will pass the bill that cleared the house early saturday morning. give me your hand! i can save you... lots of money with liberty mutual! we customize your car insurance so you only pay for what you need!

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that the hour, senate majority leader mcconnell has yet to schedule a senate vote to pass the nation's second coronavirus virus deal. treasury secretary mnuchin includes free testing, paid emergency looefd and $1 billion of food assistance but mcconnell said the senate needs time to review it and at least one senator isn't happen we the paid sick leave proposal. joining us is senator van hollen of maryland. americans are on edge. anxiety ridden. they want to know what the government will do for them so start here. is the senate going to pass this? how quickly is this going to get moving, senator?

>> well, good to be with you. you know, the senate should never have left town. we should have been on duty waiting for the house bill to come over so that we could take it up and pass it right away because time is of the essence. i hope at this point senator mcconnell will schedule that vote tomorrow. so that we can vote on it. it is not perfect. there are things in there that i think should have been in there. that are not. >> such as? >> the trump administration -- well, the trump administration, republicans, apparently opposed the idea of requiring large companies, companies with over 500 employees, to provide sick leave and pay for it. that means big companies like mcdonald's and amazon are not required to pay for sick leaves for their employees. some of them are doing it but there was no reason to leave that out other than the fact that republicans resisted and

speaker pelosi was right that we need to get something moving quickly. we can come back and take other action as we go so i hope the senate will take this bill up but that's only step one. there are other things to did. >> how much if at all do you think the imperfections in the bill in the eyes of democrats or republicans to prevent the bill from clearing the senate easily? >> well, my view is we just have to get it done. you know? everybody can have concerns about particular pieces of the bill but the overriding concern right now is to pass this bill. it does provide for important provisions when it comes to expanded unemployment compensation for people who could be out of work. >> i guess what i'm asking, senator -- i don't think i asked my question quite sharply enough. forgive me. if something is going to prevent this bill from passing the senate, in its current form, what is that most likely to be? i know you hope it passes but if it doesn't where's the strongest flaw in the bill right now?

>> well, as you were reporting, there's some republican senators who don't like the sick paid leave provisions that are in this bill that relate to employers under 500 employees that also rightly provides a tax credit for them so that those companies, those small businesses, don't have to essentially shoulder the entire cost. but in my view on the democratic side, certainly, we want to take up this bill. we want to pass it right away. that's the right thing for the country and glad that the president is supporting the bill that passed the house. i hope senate republicans will do it, as well. >> how confident are you, senator, that this administration and if not the administration, the coronavirus task force, has a good handle on where we are and what needs to get done? i ask it because one example is secretary azar asked about ve ventilators and people concerned

that hospitals don't have what they need to deal with what's expected to be a spike in cases. he said he couldn't reveal. do you think there's a good understanding of where we are and where we need to go? >> i think if you do the math on ven ventilators, if the curve continues to accelerate the way people project we don't currently have enough ventilators. it is as he said essential that we begin to order a lot more. the issue, of course, is the whole world is experiencing the coronavirus. and so, getting those supply lines accessible is going to be a big issue. look. i saw that entire press conference and to your larger question, the president already had a credibility problem and i really think hesh should just g

out of the way and let the health care experts discuss this. he said everything's doing great. he said pretty much everything's under control. these are things that resaid eight weeks ago. eight weeks ago he made similar comments and look where we are today. this is a time to let the health care experts really govern the conversation, provide the advice, focus on the health issue instead of his constant worry about the dow jones and the stock market. if you address the health issues ultimately those other issues will be addressed. >> senator, we don't want to let you go without talking about maryland. there's a total of at least 31. seems like maryland only capable of doing about 150 tests a day. today governor hogan announced a state of emergency to close a number of public venues. you have recently added private labs to the testing arsenal.

talk about how your state is doing in response to covid-19. maybe even in the lens of whatever this bill might provide for the state of maryland. >> so, there's both the good news and the bad news in maryland. the bad news is we continue to face bottlenecks on testing. i've gotten, you know, calls and emails from constituents who have fever, who have the symptoms. they're still stuck in that bottleneck so we really need to expand testing not just in maryland but around the country and adopt that south korean type model where you essentially have drive through testing. that's a matter of the number of tests, but also, the logistics of not requiring people to jump through as many hoops. on the good news side, we are taking important social distancing measures. the governor is closed schools in maryland for at least two

weeks. we have prohibited large group meetings but thousands of federal employees live in maryland and work in the district of columbia and the executive branch of the federal government is not leading by example. a number of us have been very frustrated that the office of personnel management, omb, the office of management and budget, have not issued clear guidelines to federal agencies to maximize teleworking for nonessential employees which means that federal employees are still having to take the metro, they still have to be in sort of close conditions with lots of other people to get to and from work so the president needs to let his agencies know that they need to maximize teleworking and do it for all nonessential employees to better protect the men and women of the federal government in maryland, really,

around the country. >> in the bigger picture, we have seen many states and localities take the lead where they felt the federal government not giving them proper or clear direction act what they should do and we did hear from the coronavirus task force that we're going to get a new set of federal guidelines tomorrow and anthony fauci said anything and everything is on the table. have you been kept in the loop as a u.s. senator? do you know, have governors, people who have to deal with what these guidelines are, kept in the loop? do you know what's coming? >> i do not. i did hear dr. fauci's comments about the new guidelines that are coming. i've also heard from governors like the governor of illinois who indicated that he had not, you know, had coordination with the folks at the federal government. i mean, you got as you've been reporting these huge packed lines at airports. i mean, that's like being on a

cruise ship for a little while. and that was a result of mixed messaging or bad messaging. you know? when the president said, you know, no one can come home but forgot to tell americans to come home, they didn't have to rush home at the same time. so these are unforced errors and we could use a lot better communication between the federal government and state and local agencies. but overall, we just need to have -- we need to have health officials at the federal level be given the authority to provide information without being undercut. the same precedent by the president of the united states. that clear messaging, consistent messaging is so important at a time of national crisis like this. >> senator chris van hollen, thank you for making time for us. >> thank you. last weekend we mostly saw

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i'll start by discussing the federal reserve. as you know, it just happened minutes ago, but to me it makes me very happy and i want to congratulate the federal reserve. for starters, they have lowered the fed rate. really great for up our country. it is something that we're very happy. i have to say this. i'm very happy and did it in one step. they didn't do it in four steps over a long period of time. they did it in one step and i think people in the market should be very thrilled. >> by our count, at nbc news, there are 3,416 cases in the country, 67 people have died. and the president of the united states chose to begin his address to the american people tonight at the press conference talking about the federal reserve cutting interest rates to near zero. joining us from washington, the white house reporter for "the

l.a. times" security correspondent ken dalanian and in california, former campaign manager for cory booker. eli, i guess if there was ever any question that people had about what is topmost on the minld of this president going through this coronavirus crisis as we see the numbers escalating, school closings escalating and the coronavirus task force saying, anything and everything is on the table to deal with this, his priority seem to be the economy. >> yeah. he's made that clear again and again, chris. he did it again today. he spoke about the fed decision. he spoke about google and criticized the press for apparently getting that story wrong even though the press accurately reported it. he left the room pretty quickly and without making really any comment to the extent that echoed dr. fauci in terms of explaining the gravity of the situation right now. he said this is going to get worse, that this is a critical

period for mitigation and isolation and the president did not deliver that message at all. he claimed that he had to go back to the oval office to make some phone calls but this is happening again and again. he comes out, makes some statements, takes credit for what has been done and then leave it is staff to take the other questions and really throughout this entire thing with the tougher questions he has been delegating so much of the presidential responsibility. you know, in a time of crisis, people want to see the president taking command of the situation. he's got steve mnuchin, the treasury secretary, negotiating with nancy pelosi. mike pence basically running the federal, the task force and delivering the administration message there and deferring to dr. fauci on a lot of other experts, ambassador birx and if the president is saying that everything is fine, he's undercutting that message and there is a segment of the country that needs to hear this from the president who has spent

three-plus years denigrating experts and people with fancy degrees saying i'm the one to trust. if he is not saying it, there are a lot of people out there not going to stay at home if they're not hearing this directly from the president. that's why people in washington are concerned tonight. >> speegiaking of what the peop hearing from the president, he resisted taking the crisis and he is relaxed, we got this. how do you see the apparent mismatch between the gravity of the situation and the rhetoric from the white house? do you think they're kind of catching up with him? >> yeah. look. i think trump's met his match finally, a problem he can't lie about or bully, and a challenge that he just isn't up to. frar frankly, the best thing that happened today is leaving it to the experts to talk and mike pence not graveling at trump's feet is certainly doing a better job as eli said than trump at

communicating with the public. i think he realizes now that this is a problem that is real, he dismissed it up front, for weeks. and now he realizes it is coming to his feet and trying the best to make the best of a terrible situation and doing a bad jimmy butler of that. >> ken, you and some other colleagues at nbc with real reporting dissecting how we got here and i wonder if you can give us a little idea about what you found and how it might be instructive moving forward. >> i can, chris. the reason it's important is because you could argue that we have never in modern history had a greater need for a competent federal government than this moment and to look at how the trump administration responded going back to when this crisis first emerged is a way to hold their feet to the fire and we found a period in january after which the center for disease controls identified this mysterious outbreak in wuhan, china, flagged it and the u.s. intelligence community during

which the trump administration was awol and john bolton fired the public health experts on the national security council, they disbanded and the doctors, the epidemiologists, the experts who would have been in the white house dealing with this for the warnings they were not there. they were relegated to writing op-eds in february urging the country to do more and the trump administration did and made a big deal of touting this, they did impose a travel ban. that was january 30th so weeks after hundreds of thousands of people had traveled outside of china and this virus spread and many weeks after that, donald trump portrayed this as a china problem and he minimized the impact. i was watching before coming on the air an interview that larry kudlow given a week ago saying we have this contained. that wasn't true and not only wasn't it true but a dangerous

message because even at that time a week ago trump's former homeland security adviser writing we need social distancing, beef up the hospital equipment, need to take the steps and wasn't happening. it is good they're now apparently geared up but even tonight the president said we have this under control. that is just not the case, chris. >> there are a lot of statements coming out of the administration not worn well at all. thanks to all of you. when we come back, katie porter explains it all. another viral clip of the california congresswoman explaining the reality of how expensive coronavirus testing can be. she joins us live next.

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26 million. that is the astonishing number of views since thursday when a clip went viral of congresswoman porter's stunning exchange with a cdc director robert redfield. >> will you commit to the cdc right now using that existing authority to pay for diagnostic testing free to every american regardless of insurance? >> we'll do everything to make sure that -- >> no. not good enough. reclaiming my time. >> i'm working with hhs to see how best to operationalize it. >> you don't need to do any work to operationalize. you need to make a commitment to the american people so they come in to get tested.

you can operatalize the payment structure tomorrow. >> i think you're an excellent questioner. so my answer is, yes. >> a few days latter the house pass add bill providing free coronavirus testing for all americans. >> congresswoman porter of california joining us now from irvine, not surprisingly, voted in favor of that bill. congresswoman, welcome. >> thank you. >> congratulations, by the way. >> how much responsibility do you put on the cdc, on the white house, for the way that things are going right now? cdc director has to kind of follow the lead of the president. i can understand him feeling a little bit between a rock and hard place with your questions and i understand your question, too. >> i think the cdc needs to be taking a lead here in helping the president understand what the law is that the cdc is obligated to follow. what was so infuriating and disappointing about the exchange with the cdc director is asking him about an existing law on the books now for years exactly to

address this kind of situation. i'm a tough questioner on the hill. people have seen it before but in this case i actually told him in advance the night before, i'm gong to put this to you. the correct answer here is yes. as a professor, i have never given the student the answer before. and then it took me five minutes of really pushing him in order to get him to commit what law already lets him do. >> i'm sorry. you gave him the question and the answer the night before you asked him on the record? >> correct. worse than that, my colleagues underwood and delaura and i sent the cdc a letter one week before that hearing clip you played telling the cdc this is the authority, this is the provision that lets you provide for testing, for free, regardless of insurance status. we asked for a response by one week. they didn't respond. in that week. the night, the hearing started the day before. adjourned because the president

demanded the cdc go to the white house. i told them, when you come back tomorrow, here's what i'm going to ask you about, whether you have this thortd. and so they knew exactly what i was going to ask him and he still attempted to on few skate things with the american people and disappointing to me to take the work to get the answer out and now the families first act that the house passed clarifies that this is the obligation of the federal government to help step up and pay for the testing so people won't hesitate to explain to the doctors the symptoms for fear of the cost. >> we are at a point where every day americans are seeing their way of life challenged in increasing ways, literally by the hour. it seems. a school district is closed. bars and rest ranlaurants are c and now new guidelines coming out tomorrow. anthony fauci and the vice president talked about it today r. you anymore confident that

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don't do much. you shouldn't be going into bars and restaurants. they're closing bars and restaurants and schools. then the cdc puts out guidelines, 50 people or less. what is going on here? >> you know, that can be confusing. you can get 50 people in a room. you are tightly packed in there. not mentioning the social distancing. i tell people who things, if you are going to a gatherings, even like this where there might be 50 people, make sure you maintain that social distancing, that 6 feet. on top of that note the people are you going with, if you had trust them no not show up if they're sick. that's a different story if you don't trust them or know them. if you go to a bar, you don't know who will show up. they might be coughing. you don't know about it, spreading a coronavirus, verse people you can trust who can stay home when they are sick. that's a different story. >> there sa page that talks about social distancing. precisely, avoid close contact with people who are sick with

covid-19 is spreading in your community. translation, stay away from sick people. thanks, cdc. >> you know what i'm wondering, i think about the aids crisis and the people who finally got the federal government to get off their -- and do something about hiv or gay men who were dying. i'm wonder figure that will say, for americans to say, my grandmother died, my father died,py favorite elementary school teacher died because you people didn't do what you were supposed to, so now we're going to shut down the cdc until you get it right. >> i think you are seeing a lot of people across the country. we're confused about what we're trying to do and they're trying to give us instruction, like you said there as clear as we would like them to be. hopefully, they clear out the instructions with the meetings they are having. one of the big concerns, they say social distance, especially if there is outbreaks if your area. you don't know because that testing hasn't been there yet. once that testing go etc. more robust, we will have an idea

what's going on, where then we can make more measurements, hey, if there is an outbreak, then we can practice more social distancing, cut that 50 people down to none or ten. make sure people are taken care of. until we get that testing. it's kind of a linchpin to everything right here. until we get it more robust. >> they are saying 1.9 million tests are available. we'll see where that goes. thank you. we will spend the the next hour talking about the sfred spread of the coronavirus. lawmakers ahead to break it call down on kasie d.c.. wee are back after this. n kasie. wee are back after this. i've always been fascinated by what's next.

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and welcome back too the second hour of kasie d.c.. >> tonight we have a sobering update on the status of coronavirus after the key people in charge of battling the pandemic announce a series of new steps and rewardings to an anxiety-ridden american public. >> we will now having a says in the days ahead, the more than 2,000 labs across the country that have the equipment today to process coronavirus tests. >> we're going from somewhat manual relatively slow things to a testing regimen that we can test many tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands of individuals per week and maybe even more. we will have 1.9 million of these high through-put tests

available this week with numerous labs up to 2,000. >> as these tests rule out over this next week, we will have a spike in our curve. we are going to see a spike as more and more people having a says. >> has there been any talk, sir, of shutdown of domestic air travel at all. >> well, we continue to look at all options. all options remain on the talk to address. >> to protect the american people, we consider everything on the table. the worst is ahead for us. it is how we respond to that challenge that's going to determine what the ultimate end point is going to be. >> we're going to all be great. we will be so good. relax. you are doing great. it all will pass. >> and the cdc is out with at least one brand new guideline this hour on limiting large gatherings. they say weddings, funerals, parades, contributors to the spread of the coronavirus. so they're recommending at least for the next eight weeks all events of 50 people or more be cancelled or postponed.

the recommendation does not apply to schools or businesses. with that, let's welcome our panel of experts in new york. newer rolling and ep deem yolgs science contributor dr. joseph farr. policy expert and former policy consultant for the world bank, dr. vin gupta. in st. louis, former chief medical officer of the department of homeland security, dr. alexander garza. so i just want to talk on what dr. anthony fauci said. he said everything and anything is on the table. the worse is the yet ahead. it's how we respond. when we look at a first response, dr. garza, in saying, well, let's limit at least gatherings to under 50 people. does that make sense to you? >> it does. so, one thing that we're trying to do is flatten the epidemic curve. and so, what that means is if you look at the curve from china, it's very steep and that's because the virus wasn't

quite discomfort yet. it was out in the community. very densely packed community and after what happened is it overran healthcare systems. so what we really want to do is flatten that curve. so we don't have as many people getting sick at the same time so that we can manage the crisis. >> the american people, if i'm in a group of people, what itself the difference if i'm in the middle of 50 people or in the middle of 250 people? especially at a time when a lot of people who were on that stage with the president or in the briefing room with the president and vice president were talking about social distancing? we're talking about a lot of people staying home. we're seeing schools close, we're seeing bars and restaurants close. we're seeing major adjustments to the american way of life. then this comes out 50 people or less. >> right. >> so is there a disconnect? >> it's a little bit of a mixed message. so really what they were trying to emphasize is you want to decrease the probability of being exposed to the virus and the way you do that is through social distancing. it does have a big impact on

transmission. now, there is no magic number and so, you know, cdc picking 50. it will probably ratchet down as the cases start to go up. but the whole idea behind it is to decrease transmission between people that have the virus and people that don't. >> so where should we be at, in terms of the measures that are being taken? i mean new york city schools just announced they are preparing to shut down schools. massachusetts is taking some similar steps as was announced this evening. is is that where we need to be in do we see states and cities taking steps that maybe the cdc should follow or is the cdc generally in the right direction? >> i think the states and cities are taking the lead and they have to because again there has been a lot of mixed messaging. they're leading because they have to. and i think that increasingly across the nation, we will see that. however, i must say it's an all or none kind of problem at this point. because if we have spread in all

50 states, unless we all do that it will jump from one hot spot to another over time. >> so we will get this set of guidelines tomorrow, both fauci and the vice president talked about this they didn't want to give away too much. all they they indicated it made be closing bars and restaurants. i'd like to hear from all of you, knowing where we are now, obviously where we want to be, what should those guidelines include? dr. gupta? >> well, i think ohio has been a leader on this and i have to praise governor dewine for going ahead and shutting down bars and restaurants as of 9:00 p.m. today. >> should that be national? >> i think so. i think compelling people to do it through a recommendation doesn't seem like it's been working. we should be dock it via decree. really the emphasis should be on social distancing, flattening the curve so that asymptomatic transmiters. we know they exist. we know they will be the best way this disease transmit and pose significant risk to the

health of people with pre-existing conditions. so my concern here and i know everybody in public health really shares this, is how do we minimize that transmission risk? it's not the 65 and older crowd that is transmitting this disease going out and about. it's the younger demographics. so i think if they're not following recommendations, we should move towards compelling. >> dr. farr, what should be from that set of recommendations tomorrow? >> i completely agree with dr. gup that i think what happened in italy, what happened in france, what happened in spain, we are seeing that same trajectory. i think we will see the same thing here. social distancing is social distancing. so you can't say 50 people or less, it has to be, you have to be distanced socially from others that you don't have daily contact with or necessarily have to have daily contact with. >> dr. garza, the news that there are going to be 1.9 million new test kits available, starting tomorrow, what is your take on the impact that that will have? 1.9 million sounds like a lot. we are a nation of 340 million.

it's not nothing. but 340 million. how do you see the impact that will have? >> yeah. yeah. it's sort of a drop in the bucket, really. if we looked at the testing that we are doing today, we haven't done nearly as much testing than a country and other countries have done and the second point. >> dr. gar sarks i know that sound like a facetious question, it sounds like i am being flippant. all i hear is the u.s. is screwing up and screwing up. are we doing anything right? >> well, so, you know, i know a lot of people at the cdc. they're all good people and they're working hard. they have faced a lot of challenges and you've mentioned a couple of those with getting the policy right. you know, getting those test kits out. and it doesn't help when you're having this mixed messages coming from the administration. and so that creates a lot of anxiety. because people want to have information and if you are not providing, you know that robust information, they're going to

start filling that narrative in. you know, half of this is clinical problem or a medical problem and half of it really is a communications problem as well. >> could i interrupt you for just a second and get your reaction to something? because this is a congressman from the state of california, by the name of devin nunes, this is what he is telling people. >> there's a lot of concerns with the economy here. because people are scared to go out. but i will just say one of the things you can do, if you are healthy, you and your family, it's a freight time to just go out, go to a local restaurant. >> yeah. >> likely you can get in easily. you know, let's not hurt the working people in this country that are relying on wages and tips to keep their small business going. >> you know, very sympathetic. >> don't run to the -- >> i understand. >> don't run to the grocery store and buy $4,000 of food. go to your local pub. >> is that useful? >> no i would say we need to

follow the science and the best advice of our public health practitioners, which is practicing social distancing. we know that it's really hard to make up time if we're not very aggressive with doing social distancing policy. and so, every day that we wait to implement these measures, that curve is going to start growing exponentially of the number of cases that are out there. >> italy just announced 386 deaths in a single day. >> geeze. >> this is not sierra leone during ebola. this is not a third world country. you know exactly all too well what those contagions can do in the more impoverished places in the world. what do you make of that? and what does that tell us what we should be watching for here in the u.s.? >> italys that same exact problems we do they did not have enough intensive care beds. they did not have enough

ventilators. they have an elderly population. we, too, have an elderly population. they have much more -- we lead the world in diabetes. we don't have enough ventilators or beds and we lead in high risk conditions. i think arguably we can expect worse. i don't mean that with fear mongering. 80% should be fine. a lot of people 15 or 20%. >> is the gap like this or like this? give me some perspective for how far off we are? >> you know, i can't speak to those specific numbers how many we will need. based on the projections, if you look at ventilators, 15 to 20%. we have a fraction of the number of beds and ventilators we would need to care for those patients, critically ill. >> dr. gup that a lot of us looked at the pictures over the last 15 hours or so at airports, people packed in like sardines after coming off planes after

many were on 8 or 10 hours or longer, waiting three or four hours in line on top of each other. many reported they went through with folks who did not have gloves on, they were not asked questions. no temperatures were obviously taken. this is a picture last night from o'hare international airport. one of the questions that i've seen out there a lot is, wow, if i was stuck in this for four or five hours, do i need to self quarantine? i don't know who was next to me. >> it's a great -- it's a great point you are bringing up, chris. it's a challenge here. because again it goes back to this repetitive mixed messaging in terms of what we're advocating for. what we are seeing in terms of reality. the truth is we are advocating for droplet precautions in the setting of covid-19. which means -- >> i don't see anybody in this video who has a mask on or protective gear. why would they, right? >> sure. sure. that's the challenge here. and you raise a really important

point. so would i recommend that everybody go into self quarantine? it's such a tough question. i think if they're feeling symptomatic, cough, fever, those are the two main symptoms of anybody that we're thinking has a high pre-test probability of this disease, sure, i think it's the better part to go into self quarantine. if not, i think you have to make yourself aware, bring yourself to attention, medical attention. if symptoms do arise. we know there is an incountriation period, exposure, it takes four days. then bring yourself to attention. i think it's vigilant for those stuck unfortunately in airports. >> dr. gupta, can i stick with you, what the washington state doing right? is there one thing at the top of the list? >> i think governor insley has been a paradigm of excellence here as has been his entire administration. this is challenging. any pandemic response is challenging.

because you are dealing with a threat you can't see. we're all talking about rapid diagnostics as though we can just build a pcr platform immediately and predict that sequins of that virus. >> pc, sequinsing what something is based on the dna? right? >> you got it. you got it. so in the setting of so much unknown uncertainty, i think we have taken, the governor has taken a lot of aggressive actions that are evidence-based. he's led the country in terms of social distancing. and i think that's been great. he's working with the public sector, the private sector with academic institutions to try to bring a whole of government, whom of society approach to increase testing, for example and so i think he's done the right thing on several different initiatives and we're dealing with a real crisis here. but i think his leadership has been extraordinary. >> so just to comment on the testing as well. you know the pcr test, it's a form louisiana it's a recipe. and it tells you if you are

acutely ill with the virus and that's the standard test that we will be using for everyone. labs are just like any other business, if you already have a backlog and you have hundreds of thousands of cases coming in, it will take time to work through these cases. that means every lab in the united states should probably have this test and be able to run this test. so it's still going to take time and they're going to be work, 24/7. >> pcr is not a fast test. some of them are fast. >> it runs a couple hours. keep in mind if have you 10,000 cases per day et cetera, it will take a long time to get your results back, longer than you should like. i should mention while we are now harnessing the power of the commercial sector. we have not harnessed the governmental sector. the department of defense has its own resources, we use them all over africa for ebola. most came from the dod not cdc. so the department cdc, commercial sector. it's a formula. it's not a patented form

louisiana so we should distribute that to everyone that has pharma grade manufacturing capability. produce as much as possible. get them out to every lab possible in the united states now. >> that is such a great point. the u.s. military response to ebola in west africa was extraordinary, saved thousands if not tens of thousands of lives. why can't we do that here? doctors, thank you. we're just getting started. still to come, congressman raul ruiz both emergency room physician and representative serving california will join us live. >> congressman tim ryan who proposed an emergency income tax credit will help us as welts. a top medicare and medicaid administrator who warns of a tsunami of patients at american hospitals. stick around. patients at ameri hospitals. stick around

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him. former house speaker newt gingrich is issuing a dire new warning about the coronavirus outbreak. he wrote an op-ed what he is seeing in italy, where his wife is the u.s. ambassador to the vatican. >> in it he writes, faced with a pandemic threat, history teaches us it is far better to be over prepared than under prepared. we would be losing 5 or 10,000 or 15,000 americans. if it really got out of control, the numbers could go higher. >> gingrich isn't the only one,

the former advocate for medicare and medicaid services warned by march 23rd just over a week from now, many of our largest cities and hospitals are on course to be overrun with cases. joining us now from minneapolis is andy slavit. thank you so much. you write the best course of action to prevent the u.s. from becoming italy is to social le isolate -- socially isolate just as the cdc says stop any gathering that's 50 people or more. tell us in your mind what needs to be done and what social isolation means. >> sure. well, thank you for having me on, chris. really it's #stayhome. i think that is the message that everybody needs to get. many americans are understanding this message. many younger miami aren't. many people in their 20s and their teens with st. patrick's day approaching aren't getting that message and the truth of the matter is at this point in

time, the only way we can prevent the number of cases from overwhelming the healthcare system in ways that your other guests have described and the ways that have happened in italy is if we, ourselves, do this so there is a lot of focus on the government. the trumped a my opinion strikes, the governors, mayors, they all have really important roles to play. but the most important thing we can do is #stayhome and by doing that, are you not just going to keep yourself healthier. more importantly, you are not going to spread the coronavirus to other people, particularly other people who may be in worst physical condition than you think you are. so we have just 15 of healthcare leaders and myself just published an op-ed in usa today that we are sending to every governor and mayor in the country. it's an open letter to every american with a series of 30 recommendations on what stay at home means. >> you tweeted that experts are expecting more than a million deaths in the united states.

right now by our count, we're at 67. how do we get from 67 to a million? where does that number come from? >> sure. well, dr. fauci i think was asked this question in congressional testimony and i think he said it best. he said if we don't act to change the course of how we respond to the virus, there could be millions and millions of people who lose their lives. that's dr. fauci who i think is probably the most authoritative voice on this topic. the most important thing he also said was that those numbers are not our destiny and i think if you look at the following tweets that i've made, that are immediately following that one, we talk about the number of things that we can still do. and this is very good news because our destiny is in our hands, to dramatically lower that number and those really are the things that we are talking about, others are talking about. it's much more aggressively

staying home and riding this thing out and i think if we do that, we are going to see a much better outcome. if we don't, then i think the warnings we are hearing from italy, people on the ground in seattle are telling us, that we are walking into something that could be quite severe. and the numbers as we all know, any number is too many. any avoidable death, we need to avoid. so i don't think it matters and i don't think it's important to focus on the scale of this thing. it's important to focus on what can we do about it and the fact that the stakes are so high. >> so how much do you think the mixed messaging is contributing and could contribute to where this goes in terms of the number of cases and the number of deaths. i am thinking right now, zwrau short time ago we played california congressman devin nunes go out to bars. we need it for the economy. conversely, aoc, alexandria

ocasio-cortez tweeted, she has pa lot of follower, especially people under 40 capital letters, stop crowding public places right now. eat your meals at home. but all these mixed messages are coming out there. >> right. first let's just pause, this isn't about democrat or republican. it's not even about american. it's about the entire world. its about our species. so, this is not a comment reflective of a congress person new smyr nunes or congress person aoc. but i would say find your own trusted sources. the health department in your state in your city, people you believe, people you can trust, people who you follow and listen to them. what i would say is, that we have been a bit behind from the federal government on down. we have been sort of chasing this problem, instead of getting ahead of it. and getting ahead of it now really means that as this thing comes into your community and remember this is in new york in a big way now.

it's if boston in a big way. but there are other communities in this country where it isn't yet so if i were in a city in the country that had no community spread yet, i mate take congressman nunes' advice, have to have dinner. not because i want to promote the economy. i don't think that's the right message. i think live your life. but as soon as in your location, the public health officials tell you that the number of community cases is spreading. then if they don't shut the bars and restaurants down for you. you need to be shutting them down, yourselfle down, yourselves. listen to the people, there will be a period of time in our lives. we will always remember it, stay home. #stayhome. will you save lives. >> andy slavit. thank you so much. when we return, even more breaking news. we are just getting word of the first presumptive coronavirus case for a same for on board a

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. we have some breaking news right now, a first during this pandemic. a u.s. sailor during the u.s. boxer has tested presumptive positive for the coronavirus.

joining us on the phone colonel jack jacobs, colonel, it's first of all obviously concerning because tight quarters. a lot of people on the ship could spread. but you and i just had a conversation about this, i don't know, a week, ten days ago. there are also operational and potentially national security concerns. tell us what it means if someone on board a navy ship tests positive for coronavirus. >> well, we don't know where the sail has been. of course, we have 1.3 million americans who are on active duty right now. they're all over the place. many of them are leading in the past. many are in a foreign country. so it's already picking something up and bring it back. i am shocked there is only one so far. there are two things about this. the first is this person, the military establishment is much

easier than it is among civilians. the second thing is these are all young people so the possibility of it being long-term deleterious results of this on individuals is low. however, as you said, these are all young people in the country. in any kind of situation like this. we will have a really bad impact day. the interest world wide, we have cancelled i don't know how many joint combined exercises overseas, in korea, in the baltic states with norway and so on, and we have to have these things in order to test all of our systems. >> you were explaining to me, jack. on some of these ships, there are only a couple people who do certain critical jobs. >> yeah, for those services the air force and the navy in particular that are equipment central. at some juncture, you can't run

the operation at all. the efficient number of people, in military occupational specialties that are critical to the operation. of the ship are the aircraft that become sick you can't ruin the operation at all. that is a big danger. >> we don't know a lot about this particular person or what there job was. now, let's go back to the mane stream politics and the coronavirus him now, during his oval office, president trump

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kaiser health news, matt gorman, communications director for the republican congressional committee. in philadelphia, erin haynes for the 19th, a non-profit newsroom focused on gender and politics. it's good to see all of you. the president took time to attack the press over a website that google is in the middle of developing. that would only be available to some people in california. today, during a briefing. he mentioned that he is correct. dr. fauci says everything is on the table, that including shutting things down. the president officials in his

administration and medical professionals is confusing to the american people. it really does underscore the turn that we have taken, you know, as a country. in our politics just in the past week. the fear has taken on a different dimension. you heard senator sanders say in opening of the first debate that is happening since the pandemic you know what he is saying. because you know what he is saying to the american people is not it's confusing mon it's comforting them in this moment. and so, i this i the moment that we are finding ourselves in now in our politics is that you know questions of electability are on the table and who is best equipped to make the americans feel safe in the midst of this crisis. and so, you know, whether that is president trump or biden or

senator sanders is really the question now that our voters are looking to try to find an answer to. >> i think you are absolutely right about that. but a lot of people can get sick and die between now and november when the american people have a chance to vote how they feel about leadership. in the meantime, we are always in a time of crisis, we have wanted to believe and have most often i think in modern times seen the american people coming together. but we are in a different environment now. we saw with the nbc poll about people approval rating of how the president is handling this, it seemed to strip down the presidential approval rating does. what do you see if anything, is there anything that folks in washington can do now to come together and loo ed? how do we get out of this? we're in a period of life and death. >> no, i think are you right. and this is not the first time that it's been politicized. i think certainly president

trump has taken a shot at the obama demonstration. have you democrats running ads against republican senators on coronavirus. i think you are absolutely right. i also think, though, broadly this reminds me of the bp oil spill or the iranian hostage crisis. what i mean by that, the president didn't create this crisis. you really can't control it day-to-day. he simply has to manage it. i think that's a huge worry for many republicans i talked to, because it's a potential politically to spiral very quickly against president trump and his administration and i think in some respects, this is a potential to be an existential threat to the trump presidency. >> does it have the emotional to turn some of these republican members of congress into people who think for themselves? in other words, finally future aside their concerns that the president is going to tweet against them? but really talk about what is most important for their constituents? and what needs to be done to save lives? >> well, frankly, i'm not really

sure what you mean by that. >> what i mean is that we know that in a lot of circumstances, we have heard that behind the scenes, republicans have been upset about things the president has said or done but won't talk about it publicly because they're concerned of the impact it would have if he tweeted against them. we have seen sometimes what the impact has been. but is this a time when members of his own party need to step up? >> well, i think for the most part as we saw with the coronavirus, though, only 40 folks of both parties voted against that bill. have you steve mnuchin and nancy pelosi agreeing on thattive think you will see a high number of folks from both parties in the senate vote for that bill when it gets over there later this week. i don't think it really a tweet has anything to do with. this you notice, you really haven't been attacking members of congress through this crisis. i think in large part. we've seen at least on capitol hill some fairly good cooperation.

they were able to get a deal done last week. >> before we have to move on, give us a sense of where we stand policy wise? you are my favorite people to talk policy wise. how much of this is easy, both sides pretty much agree on, how much of this constitutes the sticking points if terms of whatever has to happen policy wise going forward? >> well, there is so much distrust in the government between democrats and republicans right now. you know, i covered capitol hill after 9/11 and the anthrax attacks and there was an enormous amount of bipartisan. we have to do this for the country. right now, everybody is doubt. of everybody else's you know idea. republicans say the democrats want to expand the welfare state too much. the democrats say the republicans don't believe in public health. they have reached a do you el so far. but the they all know more will have to come. this is a big shock to the economy and plus there is this continuing concern as we have been talking about all week, really, about the possibility of swapping the healthcare system. >> thanks very much for talking

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congress knapp tim ryan of ohio this week he proposed an emergency income tax credit and raul use of california he worked as an er doctor before joining congress. gentleman, thanks for making time for us tonight. >> it's good to be here. >> so we talked about the loopholes in the coronavirus relief bill why not pass a measure that provides all employers to provide sick leave. congressman ruiz i heard a number of cases as to where this is necessary. some larger employees will provide sick leave anyway. we got a statement from steve wip the casinos if los vegas that his workers will remain on full paid leave while they are closed down so is this something that we actually need or can we leave it to some larger companies to do the right thing? >>. well, first of all, large corporations all provide paid sick leave this focuses on those companies that need it the most and those workers that don't

have the protections and those chance that need them the most. second of all, keep in mind that paid sick leave is one component of making sure that workers have the ability to stay home and to take care of their families. the extra protections within the family medical leave act is other xeent. the extended unemployment -- component. the extended unemployment is a 30 component. all of these is a robust way to make sure the american people can follow the cdc guidelines, take care of their families and do what is necessary to stay safe and healthy. >> congressman ryan, what do you think of the extent that how much this will help? i know you are interested in the earned income tax credit proposals. >> well, this is a first step and if you see in ohio, for example, governor dewine said that all the bars and restaurants are going to be closed in this state as of 9:00 tonight, within just a few minutes, which i support a

thousand percent. this we did saturday morning is a first step. we need a cash infusion into the workers into the united states, that closing bars and restaurants will have a ripple effect with all those workers there. we will need to take steps for small businesses, significant steps around capital. i mean, how are these businesses going to survive, even the larger companies. we will be closing done you know, how do we figure out how to help them as well? we are in a depression-style government. and the federal government is not acting that way. the senate is not acting that way. the house, obviously, stands ready to do this. but this was a very modest first step. we were getting fought double time on the pay leave. that's why the vote ended up being from thursday to friday to 1:00 a.m. saturday morning. because we were getting pushback from the republicans on it. >> congressman ruiz, talk about what's happening in your district with regards to coronavirus and how it's being dealt with in the federal government. you represent california's 36th

district. which includes palm springs, palm deserts, makes its way east pretty much to the arizona state line so you got a blend of all kind of people, seniors in the palm springs, palm desert area. how is all this affecting your constituents? >> well, as you can see from the background, we live in a very beautiful environment, that's a retirement community. the vast majority are over 55-years-old. and so these are individuals who are at higher risk of getting severely ill. we've already had 12 cases, many of them were community acquired. and we are taking measures to limit the time that the seniors spend outside palm springs, declared an emergency declaration. the county has declared an emergency declaration. it's very important that we look out for each other. let me tell you something. our constituents, the residents who live here are very anxious. they're anxious because there is no leadership from the white house. with consistent messaging. because they're contradicting the scientists and that needs to

end. you just look at the difference between president trump's press conference and vice president joe biden's press conference and their plans and their demeanor and straight forwardness with the american people. that's why, in fact, i have decided to endorse vice president joe biden for the presidency. so i've taken it upon myself to pick up the slack and do facebook, social media, videos to help educate the people. to do a live facebook q&a as a physician. public health expert trained in disaster aid and to work closely with the local community to create a system at least here. we can inform the public to make plans to mitigate its effect. we can do it if we focus, get consistent, clear message f. we take proper actions to protect those that are most likely or at risk of getting severely sick. we can do this. >> but there is another effect, i think in palm springs, palm desert, especially, people might suffer. it's economic. it's a tourist economy in large part. can i think to have a lot of

people that i know who live and work in palm springs who can end up taking a haircut if things stay close so long. even though it might be right from a public health he'll. we have to make sure we stay healthy otherwise, this economy will be prolong. that's why we have to focus on the public health effect first. this bill that we just passed the family first recovery act does have the tax credit for self-employed as well as small businesses who complied with all worker protections that we get so there is some protection. this is not the end. we don't know how severe this will get. it will become severe and more opportunities to address the economic turmoil that this coronavirus will inflict on different communities. >> congressman ryan, you live in a state of some of the best

healthcare in the world already. what are you hearing about how that is working but what are you also hearing from the hospitals around you, about some of the concerns we have heard if there is a shortage of beds or equipment, what are they telling you? it is one of those situations where we are very blessed to have the cleveland clinic university and the university cincinnati is starting to produce their own task because the federal government attempt to try to get where we want to be as far as testing and we are weeks and weeks behind, the president said it was a hoax and we were in denial. we'll be behind on these things. we are lucky to have them. they're not at a level we want and we don't have enough tests that we need here in ohio. we think there will be over

1,000 people who'll be tested positive. putting this testing is also very important. also having testing available at the level we need to be able to stop is really important. quickly of what you are talking about and congressman reese's district, i have the bill that'll give up $6,000 to people makingless than $100,000 a year. when the banks under however many years ago, we bail out the banks. let's get out money in the working class people. these waiters, they need help. that's what this bill is going to do. if we come back to congress, it needs to be an essential component making sure we soften the blow for the people.

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