the sunday coronavirus pandemic. >> i am declaring a national emergency. >> president trump's announcement coming as cases soared. this is going to be everywhere. experts warned we are not for the millions coming infected. >> the symptomlestem is not her. >> the president testing negative for the virus hopeful the crisis will put in pass.

>> dr. anthony fauci, republican governor and democratic protestors pritzker. >> how ready are we? >> i will talk to two experts of how prepared our system is and whether or hospitals could be over run with patients. the great shutdown france and spain and schools closing and achaos acha chaos at the airport. joining me are peter baker. kasie hunt. and david brooks for the new york times and yamiche alcindor. welcome to sunday, a special edition of "meet the press."

from nbc news in washington. the longest running show in television history. this is a special edition of "meet the press" with chuck todd. >> good sunday morning. we now facing coronavirus. the virus is spread slowly at first and exponentially. as of this morning there were roughly 3,000 cases resulting in 60 davi 60 deaths. gone is the nonsense that this is a hoax and this is nothing worse than the flu. gone too is the myth for near inconveniences. we are facing one of the serious health crisis in american history. president trump's national emergency on friday calmed the financial markets. this morning i will talk to dr.

anthony fauci and we have our political panel. so many questions remained. why do health experts seem more alarmed than the federal government does. when will we have enough kits to know how widespread the virus is. and ultimately are we doing enough right now to stop the epidemic? we do know this, life in america is changing at least for the time being. things are going to get worse before they get better. >> we are moving into uncharteduncharte uncharteduncharted territory. >> reporter: a nation on edge. public life to a halt. >> nervous, scared and confused and not really sure what's going on. >> reporter: governors in 19 states in washington, d.c. have closed schools and businesses

are shuttering. last night airport from chicago to dallas and new york jammed with americans trying to come home. >> i have just enacted an executive order to activate a national guard. a state disaster for all counts counties in the state of texas. >> on friday, the president declared a national emergency. >> a national emergency, two very big words. the action i am taking will open up access to up to $50 billion. >> the house passed an emergency relief package, the legislation includes two weeks of paid sick leave and up to three months of paid family and medical leave for many americans as well as food aid and unemployment benefits and free testing regardless of insurance coverage. >> the three most important part of this bill are testing, testing, testing. >> the subject of testing, we have been making steady

progress. >> the production and testing that we talked about all week is on schedule. >> the atlantic covid tracking project reports fewer than 25,000 tests have been conducted. nbc confirmed about 3,000 reported cases, testing data is difficult to collapse. >> we have a serious efficiency in being prepared for tests. >> do you take responsibility for that? >> no, i don't take responsibility at all. >> because of the limits on testing, the number of cases are much higher. >> we have five confirmed cases. we feel that we could have up to 100,000 people in ohio right now who are carrying around coronavirus. >> joining me now is a familiar face these days is dr. anthony fauci, welcome back to "meet the

press." >> good to be with you, chuck. >> let me start with the testing issue. i started there because i feel as if we are on repeat. every week we are told we are ramping up and every week we don't ramp up. why do we believe this is the week that it is going to work. >> the chucchuck, we need to se change here. early on we were in the situation where we could get the te tests out. we need to get the private sector involved and a couple of days ago, we had the ceos there who are going to be putting on full over drive so i would expect very soon. when i say soon, i am talking about days to a week. we'll start to see it goes up like this. not everybody tomorrow is going to be able to get a test but pretty soon you will see a major escalation of capabilities and implementatio implementations. >> i want to point out, steve

peoples. primary care tells me to go to the e.r. and the health department tells me to go to urgent care and urgent care testimo tells me to go to e.r. >> as a group it is going to change. it really is. once you get the heavy hilters from industry and private sector involved, they're going to be able to make it go. >> what's realistic of the spread of fire right now? >> we have the governor being on the show. yes, we only had 26 confirmed cases. there are hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people with it in ohio. >> the nature of the outbreak is you percolate and you reach an exponential favor. if you look at every curve, it does this and it goes up. well, we and italy is an example

of individual country that did not implement the massive type of containment and mitigation. it went way up so they are here now. they're struggling. our goal right now is that if you do nothing, it is going to do this. we'll get more cases and no matter what, we need to do with containment and mitigation to slow that curve. >> how do you know when this curve -- do you have any evidence? >> right now. >> i am sure of what we are because of what we are doing. the numbers don't tell us yet. if it goes like this and continues and does not come down. if you have a mound, you have done something. you don't know about it until after the fact. the numbers are still going up no matter what you do. it is how much up they go that's the issue. >> i guess the question is, are

we takiing this precaution. i don't know if you see over night at airplanes where people are scrambling to come back. look at this crowd in o'hare and you had crowd in dallas. they want to get back into the country from europe and they're being jammed together. this is the federal government, the governor dealing with look we can't do anything about this. this is the federal government, what went wrong here? >> i don't think anything went wrong. it is the nature of the problem. when you have a situation where people are in different countries that there are going to be restrictions. american citizens, families and other residents can get back. they don't need immediately to get back. >> they came back. >> they'll be able to get back when they do get back. they'll have some enhanced screening, depending on the country, if you are in the european group and you are now with the u.k., what you will have is two weeks of self-imp e

self-imposed isolation. >> you brought up italy a few times. i want to bring up a story here, "the boston globe." many of us were too selfish to follow suggestion to change your behaviors and now we are in lockdown and people are dying. >> this is saint patty's day weekend. plenty of bars and restaurants crowded. is this a mistake? france to shut it down and spain shutting it down. should the country shut down bars and restaurants. >> that's an individual question what the country should do is absolutely and more so proportionately in those areas that have communities spread. as a country. >> what areas don't have community spread? >> i mean real obvious community spread. >> the question is you want to bring down and hunker down everywhere everyone more so. i am not saying the rest of the country don't worry about it. everybody got to get involved in

distancing themselves socially. if you are in an area where it is a clear community spread, you have to be much more intense about how you do that. that's where you get things like schools closing. you don't want to close every school in the country. there are areas -- >> why don't you? do you worry that if some places do a lockdown and some don' don't -- i think indiana has closed schools but indiana has not. are you risking something or if not and everybody is following the guidance. >> the golden rule that i say is when you think you are doing too much, you are doing enough or not enough. >> okay. that's the thing you got to do. you don't want to be accomplico. you want to be ahead of the curve. i would like to be criticized, oh, you are being too over

reacted. that's good for me. >> let me ask you, we got a healthcare official saying this to us, if we could guarantee people getting their sick leave pay and give people cash for the basics. would you prefer a 14-day just a national shutdown? i think we should be overly aggressive. >> ahave you made this point known inside the administration? >> yes. >> in fairness and they listen and go with what we say. >> should we expect more closures? should more americans be prepared to be hunkering down? americans will have to be prepared that they'll have to hunker down significantly more than we as a country are dealing. >> that means no restaurants, no bars. >> when you say no --

>> you cunlikely. >> it is much more so. you are going to have people going to restaurants anyway. for the most part and particularly if i say this. this is particularly appropriate and relevant. the people at the high risk, the elderly and those who have under line conditions, right now should really hunker down. >> the final thing i want to ask you is hospital preparedness. the ventilator situation and respiratory situation, both seemed to be dire if we don't flatten the curve. >> there is no country or anybody in the world that's going to be perfectly prepared. we have a stockpile and we'll be back fill and refill that stockpile. people should remember, that's the reason why we want to blunt that curve. if you want to get the curve up there, the entire society is going to be there. >> should all elected surgeries

be postponed? >> elected surgeries, keeping people out of the hospital and accept those who needs to be in the hospital. >> if you think you have symptoms, don't go to a hospital, right? >> contact the healthcare provider and get some instructions about how you can get tested but stay home. >> i want to show you a picture of the briefing. are you goo is practicing enough social distancing? at the time the president was being tested but i mean, you looked up here and a lot of us are going wait a minute, we have been told not to be in a crowd that small. >> a crowd that small but sometimes there is business that you need to do. i am working on it, chuck. it working on -- i am working on getting people toll do this. >> always good to be with you, chuck. >> our wall street journal poll, we ask how much conference do they have in government leaders

to handle the cry reus, state government says 75%. local government 72% and federal government 62%. governors as the head of state government topped that list. we have two of them with us this morning. the governor of ohio and democratic governor pritzker, welcome to "meet the press." governor pritzker, let me start with you of what happened in o'hare, you were not the only airport again. every major international airport seemed to have a similar situation. dr. fauci seems to say look, that's what's going to happen when you come back into this country. what do you believe shoiuld hav been done that's not done? >> i have enormous respect for dr. fauci but that's incorrect. we knew when the president gave the order that there would be

influx of people and americans that would come before the final cut-off. what should have happened? >> they should have increased the customs and border patrol numbers and cdc personnel on the ground doing those checks. they did neither of those. last night as people were flooding into o'hare airport, they were stuck in a small area, hundreds of people. that's what you don't want in this pandemic. we had that problem and today is going to be worse. there are larger number of flyings with more people coming and they seem completely unprepared. >> you have not gotten reassurance from custom officials that they're going to have more folks on hand today? >> well, here is what i got. i got a call about 11:00 last night after that tweet from a white house staffer who yelled at me about the tweet. we have been talking to customs and border patrol on the ground

in o'hare. we are getting the federal government to pay attention to this problem because we can't have it happening all day today. governor dewan and your own health official who says in pandemics, people think you are over reacting at the start and after it is over, they think you are under reacted. are you go i think to close bars and restaurants in the state of oh ohio? >> we are looking at that. we started closing the schools and reduced the number of people gather together to 100. restricted access and nursing homes and prisons. >> i think it is instructive.

you saw philadelphia did not get it. philadelphia was only two weeks behind st. louis. so philadelphia went tragt like this and st. louis is more like that. and so what it tells us is all the people i have been consulting from doctors, amy atkin who's doing a great job is my health expert. everyday counts so much. you can't wait, you got to move very quickly and these are tough decisions. we are inconveniencing people and making people's lives change. everything we are doing is to sha save lives. >> on wednesday, i think you announced six cases and thursday, 13 and friday 26. we can do basic math here, double, double of what dr. fauci said. i am sure you are not excited of your 2:00 p.m. briefing today. did you have any indication that

anything is bending this curve? >> you know as the expert telling me we are way behind as what we know. our testing is just now ramming up. some other hospitals are basically coming online in their ability to test. we'll see the number of tests going up dramatically. what i am telling the people of ohio, none of this should be a surprise. we know there is a bunch of people out there carrying this virus around. that's part of the message to young people who are not so worried about. you may not get really, really sick. you may get lucky. you may take it back to your grandma in their 80s. everybody got to take care of everybody else. >> governor pritzker and i am sure other city will be offended. chicago does saint patty's day on a level that many does not. you have been concerned of the

crowds at bars and restaurants. are you thinking of shutting down bars and restaurants after hearing what dr. fauci says. >> i want to compliment governor dewine. they did not advise us to shut down. we made those decisions on other own. they're not the ones advising us. we made those decisions on our own. i wish we had leadership in washington, we are not getting that. we shut down the parade, we did not color the river green as we usually do. i have advised that we need to keep your crowds smaller and yesterday we saw that our limit of 250 people. and gathering we cancelled all gatherings larger than that. sat

out celebrating. i called out the problem on the streets, we have not seen a lot of movement. even if you are healthy or young, you may be a carrier and you are going to hand it over to somebody else. covid 19 is spreading because healthy people can be walking around giving it to other people. we need to go on lockdown. >> i was just going to say. it sounds like -- are you going to close bars and restaurants? that's your plan? thank you sort of contradicted yourself saying you will keep the size smaller but you are making the case a lockdown. >> what i am telling you is that we have been on the trajectory now and planning for each of these steps. it is not easy, you can imagine each one of these decisions have consequences to them that are not just about the pandemic, it is about people's livelihoods. we are looking hard at that decision making today. we obviously saw what happened in europe. nowhere in the united states really has there been a lockdown on the power of restaurant but

it is something we are looking at. >> both of you have primaries on tuesday. you indicated a couple of days ago that you guys will go forward. any hesitance? >> we'll go ahead. we have four weeks of voting. people could vote today. we are urging them to go vote today. they got 13 hours on tuesday. that spreads it out. we are asking them to be careful. >> governor pritzker, any second thought of the primary on tuesday? >> we have done the same in ohio. we have active lengths of our early voting. we have mail balloting and record mail balloting with it. we have been extra careful of all of our polling places. everybody is practicing good hygiene and we are making it safe to people. schools are closed, many people will be voting in schools and

won't be big crowds. >> it may be the last primaries for a little white. >> governor dewine and governor pritzk pritzker. hospitals can be a tsunami of cases. when we come back, i will talk to our two executives whether our healthcare system can survive what's coming our way. h survive what's coming our way. can survive what's coming t (groans) hmph...

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>> when do you prepare for the peak of this weather. is this coming in days? when do you expect it? >> on a daily bases. we have been preparing for disasters for a hundred year and this particularly one over the last two months. we are taking a variety of steps to get ready. we like other part of society promoting distancing, asking our staffs to stay-at-home and cancelling surgeries and try to do as much patient care for tele-medicine and we are training our staffs to get ready to engage in this different cult challen to engage in this different cult challen to engage in this different cult challen to engage in this different cult challen

to engage in this different cult challen to engage in this different cult challen to engage in this different cult challen to engage in this different cult challen to engage in this different cult challen to engage in this different cult challen to engage in this different cult challengediffic challen ãwe think the next week or two is going to be critical. we'll begin to see cases in this area, we expect them to rise in the coming weeks. >> you hthe west coast have bee dealing this longer than the east coast. what have you learned the last six weeks that tells you what we should be expecting the next six weeks. >> thank you for having me. i want to say this is an unprecedented time for healthcare systems in our country. chuck, i want your viewers to also know the remarkable effort that our staffers are making around the clock to really prepare and implement our emergency for the covid 19 outbreak. this is really to treat the most complex injury and illness that we see with our team of ex perpts and traperpts and to conduct that leading edge research and discovery hopefully will lead to more cares. we focused on in the things that

peter mentioned, establish capacity, recognizing most of our hospitals are full. if you go pass your emergency department now, you will see tents directed in the parking lot that allow us to increase capacity. 180 clinics encouraging tele-medicine option. we are hoping to continue to increase capacity and having that drive-thru area allowing us to contain patients coming in where our most sick patients are. >> it seems like the thing we keep on hearing about is

respiratories and ventilators. healthcare workers need to treat folks and ventilators because if it gets really -- this is one of the things with the breathing issues for those that are eld elderly. what are your concerns, does the federal government step up enough for this front? >> my concern is i think we need to think about this and a war-like stance. my concern is we have millions of healthcare workers around this country to prepare and battle against this spvirus. there is a couple of areas of supplies they need to fight the virus. one is testing that we need. dr. fauci have commented on that and private labs that ramped up testing. we started to do our testing as of yesterday. >> can i interrupt you? why was it yesterday?

can you help answer to viewers, they got online last week, why did these private facilities take so long to get online? >> it was the day before yesterday that we got regulatory relief from the fda so we did not need to jump through all sorts of hoops and prove that our testing is accurate as possible. it is accurate but the fda relax its regulations so we can be in testing immediately. my big concern is personal protective equipment even before the most significant battle lying ahead. our supplies are low and other hospitals are low in supplies. we need the government to create surgical masks and eye protection devices and gowns so our healthcare workers can engage in this battle. we would not want to send soldiers into war. we don't want to do the same

with our healthcare workers. >> one thing that the government has not done yet and you would like to see them step up. >> supplies. we need to have the personal protective equipment to keep our providers and pay she watients families shafe. good luck over the next couple of weeks and months. we are all hoping you can handle this surge capacity. thank you much. >> for the latest of coronavirus, follow our live log nbc.com/coronavirus. >> when we come back, president trump says he's doing a fantastic job. next. next ♪ limu emu & doug [ siren ] give me your hand! i can save you... lots of money with liberty mutual! we customize your car insurance

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welcome back. t welcome back. yamiche alcindor and kasie hunt. i feel peter that we heard a little bit if you read between the lines of dr. fauci and the governor, the federal government is leaning up but not as much as they would like to because on one hand they're making the case that we are not doing enough and

on the other hand we are not ready to call it our own. >> we just got approval yesterday. this is mass general. one of the leading hospitals in this country. >> i thought an interesting moment came when dr. fauci was asked by the people, is it going to get worse? yes. it is going to get worse and things like nba games will be shut down. when all sports shutdown, they're craving for direction and craving for washington to tell them what are we supposed to do at this point. the president is a by stander as school superintendents and governors around the country making decisions to shut down and the president has not given that firm direction and guidance they are looking for. >> i think i heard. >> did you hear dr. fauci recommends closing down restaurants and bars? >> it seems like he was not saying that. >> if it were me and i owned a bar and i think this is the best idea.

this is the best plan. to pick up on peter's point. this is something i think we are hearing from the community. i am hearing from my friends who are looking to us in the media for guidance of what to do. the idea that americans feel like they know this is something they need to be worried about and taking action and even if they feel concerned, they have no idea of what to do. the lack of clarity is a serious problem. >> you know this was after the wednesday's address. the measure was to lea lead the nation in confidence. the point is you see that lack of confidence and spreading with different people on how to deal with the crisis.

>> i had a friend called me last night saying he had a fever. i had no idea what to tell him. it was unnerving. and the next thing is i am going to drive up to see you, i can't do that either. this goes against human nature and it goes from the top and we have a president that does not feel the emotions of other people. therefore he can't lead the country. wow, people are hurting out there and afraid out there. i got to act, i got to act. he's reading what people are thinking about him. >> let's take a listen. >> we are finding little problem, very little problem. you treat this like a flu. it is going to disappear. one day is like a miracle and it will disappear. >> this is the new hoax.

>> some of the doctors say it will wash through and it will flow through. >> the defining characteristics of the trump administration has been this real challenge for troops and challenge of the feedbacks, alternative facts, you had the president saying all sorts of misinformation intentionally or not intentionally, you had the president's lawyer saying truth or what's not truth. you have the president wants to calm people because people are terrified. they are scared and people are crying in their cars wondering if they should be in big crowds. y here is what you can do as americans, you have not said what the misinformation is like. we are not sure what is going to be banned or insurance companies are going to cover the treatment of coronavirus. people are really worried about. >> i am curious.

congressional republicans, they're very concerned that they're basically being through the prism of how the president is responding. >> the this is is a crisis, we going to spend the coming weeks waiting for the senate to take action on a compromise that came late into the night on friday between the white house and house democrats and it is not clear to me that there is a path forward with senate republicans. there is so much internal issues that others are trying to deal with. nobody can give us a timeline. if senate, if all agree, they can act like that. if they want to do it that way, they can. no indication they're going to to. >> that's surprising on mitch mcconnell's part. >> he's laser eye knowing. >> i don't think this is a mitch mcconnell's problem. i think mcconnell is with you on

that. there are other republicans, there was a statement from ron johnson complaining of the bill and other issues focusing on the fisa renewal. the eye is not on the ball in the senate right now. >> how does the president feel about it? >> well, he subtracted out to mnuchin. he's been a non player when it comes to these negotiations. he has not spoken to pelosi in weeks. the t he left it to his secretary. you know that's a consequence of what we had the last three years. the number three official country are n-- >> what would we say to other country whose politics are so dysfunctional that the head of two different branches could not

speak together. >> we would call it a failed state. >> the swamp is looking valuable right now. what we are loacking right now s mobilization. we need the ventilators to be built. we have institutions where we weaken -- >> i don't get the sense where it feels that the administration sees this as a political means. the political folks in the administration. >> you have the president who's looking at the political future saying well the things that's going to run on apart from culture is going to be the economy. this is what i am worried about. that's why you have last minute decisions on capitol hill. why can't i get the industries that are going to be hit or ability to get reelected?

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we have numbers our msnbc josh "wall street journal" poll. 45% of voters approve of the way president trump is handling coronavirus, 51% disapprove, a familiar set of numbers. partisan split. democrats disapprove by 84/13. guess what, republicans flip the script, they approve of the president's handling by the similar enormous margin. far more democrats than republicans are concerned a family member will catch the virus. democrats are far more likely to avoid large gatherings. they're more likely to have changed their travel plans. three times more likely to avoid eating at restaurants. david brooks, this is the unintended consequence that a lot of us feared of this

polarization of how people get information. that to me is the show that how two-thirds of the country gets their information from one set of people and one-third of it gets it somewhere else and you see it there. >> it's crazy. is cancer a partisan issue now? the virus is a partisan issue. you see all reality through a partisan lens. that's just one of the divides. i looked at pandemics over centuries. you think people come together in a crisis? they do in some crises, in pandemic they fall apart. reporting from every crisis of the last 1,000 years, neighbors withdraw from neighbors, you get widened class divisions, out of fear you get a spirit of call s callousness. >> xenophobia. >> nobody wants to talk about it afterwards because they were ashamed of how they behaved. we need to take moral stops to make ourselves decent neighbors to each other as we go through this sort of thing.

get on nextdoor this facebook for neighbors, so at least you know what's going on right around you, which is super important. this is going to be not only a health crisis and a financial crisis, it's how we treat each other that's going to deteriorate. we're not going to like who we're about to become. >> wow. you painted an even more bleak picture. this was a depressing finding because this idea that people judge their public health warnings through the prism of the party the person belongs to. >> it's pretty crazy, and there's this idea that of course the president has not helped the situation by being -- talking in front of thousands of people, calling at least the reporting of this a hoax, making it seem as though people talking about the virus being an issue was a personal attack on him. because he feels obviously so personally aggrieved that this is happening. what you see is the fact that, as you said, there's a polarized nation. people are getting information straight at some times from president trump's twitter account, and he's been trying to downplay this from the beginning. including contradicting his own

health officials. i also think a really important part of this poll was on page 16 which was question 20, they said, who do you feel very confident -- >> be specific? >> who do you feel is very confident, who do you feel confident about how they're handling this? most people, 75%, happy with the way the states were handling it. less than 50% said confident in the way the president was handling it. that should make president trump very nervous. >> kasie hunt, the reason i opened with the partisan splits here, democrats are far more concerned about this than republicans right now. this is the backdrop for tonight. bernie sanders, joe biden, what may be the final democratic primary debate. states postponing primaries. georgia is the latest, louisiana did it earlier, we'll see what happens after tuesday, how many more states join. how does bernie sanders go after joe biden tonight on a topic that isn't about coronavirus? >> i'm not sure he does, chuck. i mean, you've seen bernie sanders himself already sort of

struggle going after joe biden. there has been some great reporting, rudy cramer wrote about why that was, because he still has fond feelings because joe biden treated him well before bernie sanders was a thing and bernie sanders continues to appreciate appreciate that,i think we've seen health care be the center of all of these democratic debates or most of them. i think you'll see more of that tonight most likely. but i think that it is a nearly impossible situation to be seen having a political squabbling match in light of what's going on. >> peter, i'm not interested in the nfl free agency news that i'm reading about now when they have nothing else to write about, and i get it. it feels like we're all in -- i think this makes bernie sanders' job almost inupon at this point. >> yeah, he wanted clearly to have one last ideological head-to-head, one-on-one confrontation with joe biden to talk about the direction of the party before what seems to be the likelihood that he ends up ending a campaign at some point, right? the next set of primaries do not

favor bernie sanders, presumably biden has a great deal of momentum. bernie sanders wanted to have one last chance to say, this is what i think our party should be about. it's been completely taken over, like everything else in our life, by this one issue. >> david, i want to close with the cultural changes that this is going to inevitably make in america. you spend time chronicling the good and bad of societal changes. we make massive changes in how we interact with ourselves that will last a generation. >> you think loneliness and isolation are core problems underlying a lot of our other problems, now social distancing has become a virtue. it's going to make that problem of loan will youness, detachm t detachment, i'll yen nation even worse. we can't knock on the doors of our neighbors. if we had their email we could have some sort of communication. old people die when they're not

checked up in a crisis. we've learned that crisis after crisis. check on the old lady next to you. >> don't physically go. >> right. send an email, drop a letter, something. >> it isn't time for culture wars. the president's called this a foreign virus. there are people who are not wanting to go to chinese restaurants, maybe not all restaurants. but this isn't the time to say, these are the people who gave it to us. pressure in his address was blaming the eu for not blaming their borders close enough. >> this is earth's fault. if you want blame, blame earth, the planet. >> i think i heard from more old friends more in the last week than i have in the previous year or year and a half. you know, i do think that there is an element of common humanity that i hope is bringing people together, despite some examples of poor actors hoarding purell and other things. >> you don't have to check your phone if there's nothing else going on other than one thing. that's all we have for today.

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