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good morning, everyone. it is monday, march 16th. >> we're going to begin with breaking news and the many fast moving developments with the coronavirus. changing public life as we know it. here is where things stand as of this moment. the u.s. is now under a national state of emergency. and the cdc has updated its guidance urging against any gatherings of 50 people or more for the next eight weeks. stock futures are once again sliding despite emergency action from the federal reserve, slashing interest rates to zero. the senate is now poised to take up a sweeping bill passed by the
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house that includes free testing, extended sick leave billion dollars in food aid. mean wile, several states and cities across the nation have shut down restaurants and bars in california, illinois, and new york city among them. the city of new york announcing last night that it is closing schools, nightclubs, movie theaters and other entertainment venues. the city of new york is now considering whether to join two other states, georgia and louisiana in their primary elections. the governor of california has called on the more than 5 million senior citizens in his state and those with underlying health conditions to isolate themselves. all of this as the number of confirmed cases continues to surge now closing in on 3500 people. florida saw a huge spike this weekend and west virginia remains the only state without a confirmed case. >> and this was a result of the trump administration's airport screenings for travelers from europe. hoards of people crammed
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together in the types of crowds we have been told to avoid. that brings us to europe, the uk and ireland where added to the president's travel bans, italy and france recorded their highest death tools for a single day. france, 29. italy a staggering 368 people dead. italy recorded the most number of cases in one day, 3,590. that is in a single day. spain and france have now joined italy in banning people from leaving their homes for nonessential purposes. here is the top infectious disease doctor in this country, anthony fauci, when asked if the u.s. should be taking such drastic measures. >> would you prefer a 14-day just sort of national shutdown to slow this thing -- >> you know, i would prefer as much as we possibly could. i think we should be overly aggressive and get criticized for overreacting. >> should more americans be
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prepared to hunker down at their house? >> i think americans should be prepared that they're going to have to hunker down significantly more than we as a country are doing. >> and an election is also happening. the coronavirus was the leading topic at last night's debate between joe biden and bernie sanders. here is how both candidates said 24e8d handle the crisis if it happened on this watch? >> first of all, i would take care of those who, in fact, are supposed or likely to be exposed to the virus. that means we have to do testing, we have to get the testing kits up and ready. i would have the world health organization, take advantage of the test kits they have available to us even author the president says a million or more are coming. let's just get all the tests done as quickly as we can. secondly, i would make sure every state in the union had at least ten places where they had drive-through testing arrangements. i would deal with the need to plan for additional hospital beds. we have that capacity in the
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department of defense as well as with the fema. and they can set up a hundred beds, 500 bed hospitals intense quickly. we have to deal with the economic fallout quickly. and that means making sure the people who, in fact, lose their job, don't get a paycheck, can't pay their mortgage, are able to pay it and pay them now and do it now. small businesses being able to borrow interest-free loans. >> the first thing we have got to do, whether or not i'm president, is to shut this president up right now because he was undermining the doctors and scientists who are trying to help the american people. it is unacceptable for him to be with blabbering one factual information which is confusing to the general public. this is an unprecedented moment in american history. i believe in medicare for all. i will fight for that as president. but right now in this emergency, i want every person in this country to understand when you get sick, go to the doctor. when you get sick if you have
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the vie was, that would be paid for. do not worry about the cost right now because we're in the middle of a national emergency. second of all, we have to make sure our hospitals have the ventilators they need, have the icu units that they need. right now, we have a lack of medical personnel and i worry very much that if there is a peak, whether we have the capability of dealing with hundreds of thousands of people who may be in hospitals. so we need unprecedented action to deal with the unprecedented crisis. and bottom line from an emergency point of view, what we have to say to the american people, if we lose your job, you will be made whole. >> joining us now from washington, d.c., i believe, managing editor of the washington examiner magazine, jay crusoe. good to have you with us on this monday morning. >> thank you. >> i know you also have a new piece out in the independent entitled trump just proved he's finally taking coronavirus seriously, but how much will this late start cost us? so let me kind of redirect that question back to you. what did you find out about how the trump administration is
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doing differently now than when it first learned about this months ago? >> the difference now is the president himself who is acknowledging this is not something that's just going to go away. when he was talking about there are only 15 confirmed cases and he said we're going to see that go down to zero. another time he said doctors say it's just going to wash away. now we're seeing that is not the case. he -- obviously, somebody sat him down and said you have to start listening to the experts on this one. dr. fauci has been indispensable with his public appearances and the president has stopped appearing alongside of him to take over the conversation, especially when he said anybody who wants a test can get a test. this is taitd when testing really wasn't available. so largely, it's been the
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president's attitude and in times like this when the project is projecting is how people will react. so if he's out there saying, this is no big deal, people are act like it's no big deal. if he's out there saying we need to take this seriously, then i think people will follow that lead. >> i don't know if the president at this point has said we need to take this seriously. he said we need to take these measures and trying to tell people to calm down. are you getting a sense that the people around him think the president is taking this seriously? >> and you see him still shaking hands with everyone and in proximity with everyone? >> yeah. there is still some of that. although dr. fauci is really going along with everything that we're suggesting so that is a good sign. i do think the white house -- and this goes back to what we
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saw several weeks ago continues to look at this through a political lens which is unfortunate. that is they're out to get trump, this is something they want to do to kind of bring him down and that shows so many in the administration is looking at this in a political lens rather than through a health crisis. so once they can put that aside and do what the scientists are recommending, then the politics will take care of itself on that. >> let me get your opinion on some of the measures working there way from the house to the senate and working its way to the president's desk. the president wants a payroll tax cut and house democrats have resisted that so far. why and where do negotiations stand here? what is the thinking of the two camps on this? >> well, the president is often full of bluster when it comes to
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legislation saying he won't sign it unless it has this. and eventually he winds up doing it, anyway. what you're not seeing is mitch mcconnell coming out in favor of a tax cut. mitch mcconnell is not signaling to house democrats saying you should probably go back and rethink the legislation that you passed. so if the president is saying we need it, but he doesn't have republicans on board and you're not seeing republicans in the house or the senate be vocal about this. >> so why not, jay, send it through to the president's desk and put it on him to make the final decision here? >> i think that's what's going to happen. i think the house passed the legislation going on to the senate. if the senate passes a piece of legislation that mirrors the house, then it's going to be up to the president and from a
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political sense, if it gets passed by the house and the senate and he vetoes it because it doesn't have this payroll tax cut, that probably isn't going to work out very well for him. >> thanks, jay. first, this message from president trump at the white house on friday. >> dr. fauci said earlier this week that the lag in testing was, in fact, a failing. do you take responsibility for that? and when can you guarantee that every single american who needs a test will be able to have a test? what is the date of that? >> yeah, no, i don't take responsibility at all because we were given a set of circumstances and we were given rules, regulations and specifications from a different time. it wasn't meant for this kind of an event with the kind of numbers that we're talking about. f
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into welcome ba . welcome back, everyone. u.s. airports faced overcrowding, long lines and hours of delays as travelers returning from europe had to undergoing screenings for the coronavirus. scenes from chicago's o'hare airport showed jam-packed terminals, you see there on your scene, with people standing shoulder to shoulder as officials scrambled to set up the enhanced screenings set up by the trump administration last friday. officials acknowledge that 40,000 passengers returning from europe over the weekend had created chaotic conditions and strained airports with many travelers reportedly wondering why the health checks put in place were not stricter and did not generally include temperature checks. chad wool said the department on was aware of the long lines and asked tub pore their patience. here is what the governor had to
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say on "meet the press" yesterday. >> i got a call at about 11:00 last night after that tweet from a white house staffer who yelled at me about the tweet. that is what i got. we're on our own out here. i wish we had help from washington, but we're not getting it. >> let's talk first about the travel ban. it initially did not include the uk and ireland. the president then extend that. what are you hearing with regards to the extended travel ban to include the uk and ireland? >> good morning, yasmin. the uk and ireland were not part of that travel ban, but now they have been added to that list. much to the consternation of the authorities here. but the uk was the last path
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home for american citizens that were scrambled across europe and here in the uk. now it's causing them a lot of anxiety about how exactly they're going to make their way home. this is the only gateway they felt they could get a flight. but it's caused a lot of anxiety and from those pictures you've shown, it's caused a lot of smoegz at airports while people are scrambling to get back home. >> so let me ask you quickly to put those developments over the weekend between the u.s., the uk, some of the images that we've seen here at u.s. airports in context with some of the actions taken by governments around the world to spread the coronavirus. put into perspective what is happening at some of the key hot zones in places like europe and
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elsewhere. >> first, let me tell you, ayman, the authorities have come under a lot of criticism for not taking enough action or any at this stage, talking about sort of immunity which has become a controversial issue. all the bars, restaurants, clubs, cinemas, markets, cultural institutions and stores remain open and london is still a fairley busy city. there are still people out and about and rather alarmingly, there are still a lot of touristes from europe here including spain and italy, two of the worst hit countries in europe. look, italy is a country of 6 million people. the entire place is on lockdown. the whole of italy is virtually
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a ghost town. spain, the second country in europe with cases dramatically are going to issue a decree today tissuing people to just go what is required, only carry a limited amount of number of people on any sort of transport. france is introducing measures, telling people not to do anything rather than just the essentials and we've seen a whole host of schools shut down across europe. so a lot more dramatic action being taken across europe, but not so much here in the uk. >> all right. >> thank you. let's switch gears for a moment and get your first look at your forecast with nbc meteorologist bill karins who has been looking at the numbers for us with regard to the coronavirus. >> i want to start every morning off and update everyone on the numbers and the graphs and the
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curve. as we go through there, everyone will be wondering when are we going to hit the top of the curve, when are we going to flatten it and when will we come back down. so here is the curve right now. this is february 15th. this is march 14th. and you can see what's happened in the last week. so we're going up at a rate of about 35% a day. that means the numbers are doubling in this country every three days. so as we go by region, you can actually see this. this is actually broken down. midwest is in blue, northeast is in red. the south is in pink. we had a big jump in the number of cases in the south. this weekend, the number of cases evenly jumped. so it's evenly distributeded now. the midwest still with the smallest numbers, but you can see the exponential jump. sunday, i'll sit here and tell you that the curve has flattened, but it hasn't yet. we'll probably add close to a
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r50i9 now, if military officials are suspected of carrying coronavirus, doctors will send samples to germany for testing. >> and president trump announced on friday that the administration has put together a plan to have drive-through testing available with the help of google. here is the president on friday addressing that plan. >> we've been in discussions with pharmacies and retailers to make drive-through tests available in the critical locations identified by public health professionals. the goal is for individuals to be able to drive up and be swabbed without having to leave your car. i want to thank google. google is helping to develop a website that is going to be very
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quickly done, unlike websites of the past, to determine whether a test is warranted and to facilitate testing at a nearby convenient location. we have many locations behind us, by the way. google is 1,700 engineers working on this right now. they've made tremendous progress. our overriding goal is to stop the spread of the virus and to help all americans who have been impacted by this. again, we don't want everybody taking this test. it's totally unnecessary. and this will pass. this will pass through and we're going to be stronger for it. >> this will pass. however, several people involved in the proposed plan said the administration was overstating the scope of its multiple fronts. once the health officials said the announcement surprised all of us and that it was bizarre pointing out many of the public health service officers are
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deployed elsewhere and could not be shortly shifted. a google communications account tweeted the plan to build a website is nowhere near close examine that they are in the early stages of developments. >> some reality checks here, to say the least. still ahead, hospitals brace for a surge in coronavirus cases. plus, more from the trump administration's response to the pandemic and the precautions they're taking to protect themselves. th'reye taking to protect themselves do you have concerns about mild memory loss related to aging? prevagen is the number one pharmacist-recommended memory support brand. you can find it in the vitamin aisle in stores everywhere. prevagen. healthier brain. better life.
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welcome back, everybody. we begin this half hour as hospitals around the country are bracing for an expected surge in coronavirus patients. by erecting triage tents outside emergency rooms adding extra beds in break rooms and recommending plan toes cancel non-emergency surgeries. hospital executives quoted by "the washington post" say a burden on the health care system in the united states could be crippling if the virus were to spread as fast as it has in china and in italy, as well. the latest data shows the united states at 2.8 hospital beds per 1,000 inhabitants, compared to 3.2 in italy and 4.3 in china. the department of veterans affairs is reportedly prepare to go abdomen soared the surge in coronavirus patients in case private hospitals across the country can no longer cope by offering backup beds since the va has a surplus. in an open letter to the
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president published in the "new york times," andrew cuomo urged the federal government to mobilize the u.s. military to help create hospital beds asking in part this, can we slow the spread of the disease to the rate that our state health care systems can handle? the answer increasingly looks like no. >> and president trump announced a number of options to treat the coronavirus. speaking in the white house rose garden, trump declared a national emergency that could free up to $50 billion to fight the pandemic. he said he was weaving certain laws and regulations to ensure the vie ris can be contained in patients treated. now, at the white house briefing yesterday, trump expressed confidence in the administration's ability to handle the outbreak. >> there's a very contagious -- there's a very contagious virus. it's credible. but it's something that we have
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tremendous control over. >> meanwhile, "the washington post" reports the administration struggled to mitigate the coronavirus outbreak has been marked by infighting and blame shifting, misinformation, even missteps and a slow recognition of the danger it posed. warning factions have wrestled for control internally and for approval from a president who has been preoccupied with the beating his image has been taking. >> so during his rose garden address on friday, the president appeared to ignore guaidoance from health officials. instead of displaying so-called, quote, social distancing, the president surrounded himself with other people, shared a lone microphone and shook hands with a number on of executives as you can see there. only one industry leader offered trump an elbow bump. when the president leaned in for a handshake. there you go. meanwhile, republican congressman devin nunes encouraged families to go out and take advantage of uncrowded
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businesses. wow. >> there's a lot of concerns with the economy here because people are scared to go out. but i will just say one of the things you can do, if you're healthy, you and your family, it's a great time to go out, go to a local restaurant, likely you can get in easily. it does not hurt the working people in this country that are relying on wages and tips to keep their small business going. >> very sympathetic -- >> don't run to the -- >> understood. >> just don't run to the grocery store and buy, you know, $4,000 of food. >> right. they're clearing off the shelves. go to your local public. >> wow. as the coronavirus continues to spread across the u.s., former vice president joe biden and senator bernie sanders discussed the precautions they were taking to protect themselves from infection. >> senator sanders, let's start with you. you're 78 years old. you had a heart attack. what are you doing to protect yourself? >> i love doing rallies and we bring many thousands of people out to our rallies. i enjoy it very much.
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we're not doing that right now. in fact, our entire staff is working from home. so on a personal level what we're doing is i'm not shaking hands. joe and i did not shake hands. and i am -- about the people i am interacting with. i am using a lot of soap and hand sanitizers to make sure that i do not get the infection. and i have to say, you know, thank god right now i do not have any symptoms and i feel very grateful for that. >> vice president biden, you're 77. what are you doing to protect yourself? >> well, fortunately, i don't have any of the underlying conditions you talked about that i have to worry about, number one. number two, thank god for the time being -- anything can happen -- knock on wood -- that i'm in good health. number three, i am taking all the precautions anyone would take whether they're 30 or 60 or 80 years old. and that is i'm going to make
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sure i do not shake hands, i do not engage. we did the same thing. our staff is all working from home. we are not doing rallies any longer. we're doing virtual rallies, virtual town hall meetings. when we encounter people, we're not going into crowds. i'm taking all the precautions everyone else should be taking. >> look at that empty debate stage. what a difference a year or so makes. i want to bring in managing editor of the washington examiner jay perso. good to see you again. let's talk about the debate last night as we just played some of it. coronavirus front and center last night. what were some of your key takeaways? >> the first key takeaways were they should have more debates without a studio audience. i thought it was a lot better without the cheering and i think that that lends itself to the candidates kind of playing to the crowd. there was no crowd to play to, so i think it was a lot better,
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more substantive. i don't believe that they spent as much time on -- well, i don't know, maybe on coronavirus as they should have. there probably should have been more in-depth questions about that. it got to a point where biden and sanders were kind of going back and forth at each other before what they voted for 25 years ago or what they supported, going on about nafta and other votes which shows the weakness of having candidates who don't have executive experience running for office. i don't know how much it's going to change. i think bernie sees the writing is all the wall, that the lead that biden has at this point, without any kind of winner take all scenarios, any of the primaries that are upcoming, it's going to be super difficult for sanders to catch biden in the delegate lead. and i think this is a situation where he wanted to take one last final punch at the democratic establishment that supposedly is
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holing him back and making his point once more. biden is being funded by billionaires and pharmaceutical companies and all that trash talk in a debate. i think that was my biggest take away. bernie wanted that one last shot because as this moves forward, biden's delegate lead is going to grow and bernie's chances are going to get smaller and smaller. >> let's talk about the politics of the coronavirus responding to. that is something that a lot of americans will take into consideration come this november. how the trump administration's handling of all of it could potentially impact his re-election and even just the race. i guess we've seen some states, georgia, louisiana, delay primaries. could we see any disruption to the elections generally and to the campaigning generally, but also what are the political consequences for the president in terms of how he's handled it? >> well, it all depends on what happens. i think the cdc put out new guidelines saying don't have the
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events with more than 50 people until, like, early may. so if that gets extended, it goes into the summer, it could prove bad. i think an nbc poll that came out asking how americans see trump handling the situation, i think it was 51% disapprove, 45% approve, which is -- the poll number that is kind of been the standard for trump since he's been elected. he kind of maintains that base support of -- you know, that kind of base support, but he doesn't get any higher. so at this point, we don't know. we'll have to see what happens over the next couple of months. >> jay, always a mrsh. thanks. >> thank you. new polls show joe biden with a commanding lead over bernie sanders. but first, one of the more heated moments from last night. >> you have been on the floor on the senate time and time again talking about the need to cut
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social security, medicare and veterans programs. is that true or is that -- >> no, it's not true. >> that is not true? >> that is not true. what is true is in terms of the negotiations taking place how to deal with the deficit, everything was on the table. i did not support any of thoughts coats in social security or in veterans benefits or -- >> whoa, whoa, whoa. everything was on the table. all right. you're right. you just said it, including, in your judgment, cuts to social security and veterans benefits. >> in order to get kinds of changes we need on other things related -- >> joe, you just -- >> but we did not cut it. >> i know. because people like me helped stop that. because people like m stop that. everyone living in your home
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i would pick a woman to be my vice president. >> just to be clear, you just committed here tonight that your running mate, if you get the nomination, will be a woman? >> yes. >> the vice president committed to picking a woman as his running mate. if you get the nomination, will you? >> in all likelihood, i will. to me, it's not just nominating a woman. it is making sure that we have a progressive woman and they're all progressive women out there. so my strong tendency is to move in that direction. >> so, of course. toic eventually moved to who, in fact, they will be picking. joe biden has an almost 35% lead in the nomination. the former vice president sits at 61%, up 46 points since last month. senator sanders at 32%, up five points. >> let's take a turn from
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politics and bring in meteorologist bill karins for your forecast. >> as we go through this, this will be data and it's maps and it's kind of what us weather people do. we stare at numbers and try to tans late them for you and get some perspective. so here is italy. 24,000 cases right now. the number continues to jump exponentially. but one thing you will notice, it's not completely widespread through the whole country evenly. we have areas in the south, 11 cases, 68, essentially about 180. but when we go to the northern part of the country, you see the big red circle here, that's 13,000 cases in this one region right here. that's more than had a of the entire cases in the whole country. so we can kind of learn from this because we are about, as we've been saying, a week to about eight days behind italy's curve. so when we look at our country what we're going to be dealing with here, we're going to wait and see where these epicenters
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break out. here are the similar maps with the red circles. we've been saying west virginia is the only state right now that doesn't have any cases reported, but you see the big circle over in new york state. right now, we have over 300 and some cases heading to 400 in new york city. one in ten cases in our country is in new york city right now. and also, the other epicenter is in washington state where it actually -- we started and, of course, we had a lot of the fatalities in the nursing home there. so as these circles grow, we're going to see the more stricter restrictions are going to be obviously. and, you know, unfortunately from all the experts tell us, the way these pandemics work, all these circles will continue to grow until we get to the top of that curb which is why social distancing is so important. so as far as the forecast goes for anyone heading out the door today, the northeast, you're fine, but you are cooler. you will need a jacket and the gloves if you head out to the
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door. areas of the south is where the warm air is. we're still waiting to see what will the summer months, will this virus not be spread as rapidly once we get warmer and once we get to the hotter season? they're trying to study and figure that stuff out -- >> in realtime, as well. >> and as you said, it's watching the forecast in the south first to see how it happens there because it gets warmer in areas like miami and arkansas first. >> this whole pandemic, we have a unique perspective because we are in one of the epicenters, it appears. we are about five days to a week ahead of most of the country and how our lives are changing. >> with regard to closures. >> yeah. and i think it's good for us to explain everyone else what we're going through. today is the first day home schooling my kids after i leave work today. my kids have their outdoor clothing and when they walk in the door, they change their clothes, wash their hands and i
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think we can give our perspective. a lot of people around the rest of the country don't have cases near them. >> everything i've been told, as well, especially with kids, it's about keeping the routine going to make sure it doesn't disrupt their lives as much as possible. but it is inedz considerably hard. >> the playgrounds were closed in my towns yesterday. the kids won't be seeing each other for weeks or months. still ahead, investors prepare for another wild week on wall street as market futures point down again despite a cut by the fed. t down again despitet by the fed t off treating mine. epclusa treats all main types of chronic hep c. whatever your type, epclusa could be your kind of cure. i just found out about mine. i knew for years epclusa has a 98% overall cure rate.
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welcome back, everybody. take a look there. a new, live look at stock futures as of now. markets are down once again, despite the fed stepping in and slashing interest rates to zero. karen, welcome to you.
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thanks for joining us on this. cnbc's karen tso live from london. getting a jolt, markets, when the fed slashes rates in the past. not this time. >> volatility reigns. investors can't quantify the economic impact or the hit to earnings. what we're watching on u.s. stock futures this morning, currently down 1,000 points in the red or 5% lower, which means at this point, prices cannot trade below the threshold. expect another sharp u-turn on wall street this morning. after friday, stocks tried to claw back some of the losses. incredibly volatility. thursday, extended losses. compares s comparisons to black monday. the money came back friday, expected to flood back out of the pamarkets today. not what you'd expect after seeing extraordinary measures from the central bank.
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1% rate reduction from the federal reserve, taking rates to zero to 0.25%. any move would take interest rates in the united states negative ti negative. watch out for that. more qe, more asset purchases. $700 billion worth of treasury purchases and mortgage-back securities. comparisons to the financial crisis. there have been concerns about the functioning of one of the safest asset classes in the world, u.s. treasuries. problems reported last week. the measures designed to shore up the system. other central banks coming to the party over the weekend. swiss national bank, bank of canada, england, and japan, and the european central bank joining in with announcements on dollar liquidity. many of the retail stocks will be hit, including apple, closing stores outside of china. important for the stock market, the u.s. banks will suspend the program from here on in. back to you. >> it is remarkable when you see the numbers expected to open in the low, that the president on
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friday tweeted out and was boasting about how the stock market rallied for a couple hours with the significant number. here we are again, expected to start the day in red. you'd think someone would say, mr. president, we're not in the clear. this is not turned around. no indication yet from the president he will do so. karen tso live in london, thank you. appreciate it. coming up next, look at axios' one big thing. on "morning joe," with the u.s. under a national state of emergency, the coronavirus pandemic is further impacting public life. local officials around the country announce new measures to reduce the spread, including here in new york city. andrew cuomo and bill de blasio will be our guests. former house intelligence committee council daniel goldman announced he has tested positive for coronavirus. he'll join the conversation via skype to explain why he believes the trump administration is shockingly unprepared to handle the pandemic. "morning joe" moments away. breast cancer on my birthday.
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welcome back, everyone. joining us from washington, d.c. with a look at axios am, the
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co-founder, mike allen. good to have you with us. what is the one big thing for this morning? >> good morning. first, thank you and your team and colleagues in d.c. for getting us on the air. the axios one big thing is the testing problem is much worse than you think. axios reporters did a deep dive into what's really going on with the tests. yes, more tests are becoming available. yes, there is going to be wider spread testing quickly. but we're behind, and experts tell axios we won't be able to catch up. here's what happened. because there weren't widespread tests available, there are more people out there who have it that are unknown, so precautionary measures have not been taken around those people. therefore, you're going to have more cases. >> that's exactly what i was thinking as bill karins was showing us the graph of the united states earlier. you have all of these confirmed
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positive cases in pockets of the country, yet all of us know, because of the reporting you mentioned, that there are probably a lot more in those places than is being reported. let's talk about the school closures here. what are parents of school-aged scho children, what are they in for with schools closed across the country now? >> there was a run on d.c. craft stores over the weekend. kim hart is a parent of young kids, writes on axios that screen time limits have gone out the window. today, it's really going to hit home. bill was talking about the routine for his kids. the point that axios makes in this story is that even for privileged people who are able to have parents home full time, or able to have help, it is going to be a real hardship. you think about the parents who cannot work remotely, perhaps are single parents, impossible
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to manage. there are some coping strategies. play dates are suddenly out. some pediatricians are saying you can pick one family, kind of bond with that family. you're sort of in it together. a quote from a pediatrician that has been going around the parenting blogs is this pediatrician said, we need to spend more time with our germs and just our germs. maybe that's a way that you can say it to your kids. >> i was going to say, over the weekend, and i'm sure you appreciated this, disney plus announcing the earlier release of "frozen 2." >> release whatever you can, as soon as you can. mickey mouse, anything. >> any help we can get from the streaming services in the next couple days, i think, will be as deeply important. let me switch gears and get your thoughts on the politics of all this. did we learn anything new in the first debate of the season to have just two candidates and no audience in the time of corona or coronavirus, i should say?
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excuse me. >> we did. what a sign of our times, that this debate is our third story, ironically. the democratic race more relevant as ever, as trump gets more vulnerable than ever, but getting less attention because of the disruptions and dangerings dangers in people's lives. we saw biden establishing himself as the dominant person. when he hustled on to the stage last night, and there is a great picture of this, he threw the first elbow. bernie sauntered on to the stage. that set the tone for the debate. joe biden controlled it. between the lines, this was fascinating, bernie sanders indicated that he is worried that his people will not warm to joe biden. he continued to try to push biden left a little bit, to try to get some attention for progressive policies. here's what's important. he made it clear that if it came to it, and it looks like it is going to come to it, that he would be more supportive o

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