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. tuesday morning, everybody. we begin this morning with the u.s. inching closer and closer to a coronavirus shutdown as state and local officials take the lead in responding to the national crisis. 7 million residents in the san francisco area have been ordered to shelter in place. it is the nation's strictest measures as of yet. only in places in italy and france where the virus has essentially exploded. the states of new york, new jersey and connecticut have launched an unprecedented effort to close all gyms, movie
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theaters, bars and restaurants with the exception of takeout service. a business is offering nonessential services will be shut down by 8:00 p.m. with grocery stores, pharmacies and gas stations excluded. andrew cuomo said it's now incumbent on states to step up since the federal government has no plan. >> the federal government should put one position in place and coordinate it with the states. we have set a template where our regional states work together. we are adopting the same policies. so there is no benefit to try to shop new york versus connecticut versus new jersey. you can't have one state taking actions that are different than other states. this is a national pandemic. and there are no national rules. >> guys, the number of confirmed cases in the u.s. nears 4500.
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concern is mounting over the demand for republic traitors, ventilators and other essential equipment needed to treat the influx of patients. the president told the nation's governors, we will be backing up but, quote, try to get it yourself. here is how he defend them later in the day. >> if they can get them faster on their own. in other words, go through a supply chain that they may have. the governors buy a lot of things, not necessarily through federal government. if they're able to get certain things without having to go through the longer process of the federal government, we have stockpiles now and we're ordering tremendous numbers of ventilators, respirators, masks and they're ordered and they're coming and we have quite a few at this point. i think, mike, we have a lot. but if they can get them directly, it's always going to be faster if they can get them directly if they need them.
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and i've given them authorize to order directly. >> after that conference call with governors, the president tweeted and singled out andrew cuomo. cuomo of new york has, quote, to do more. the governor hit back, i have to do more? no, you have to do something. you're supposed to be the president. >> so this is astounding. a new study published in the journal of science is finally putting a hard figure behind the number of people who may be walking around with the virus unknowingly. researchers found undocumented infections were responsible for 79% of documented cases, meaning unconfirm cases are actually driving the virus's rapid spread. to put it another way, for every confirmed case, there are most likely another 5 to 10 people in the community with undetected infections. those with unlimited infections
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experience mild, limited or no infections at all. that puts more people at risk because the illness is unrecognized. jeffrey shahman tells the "new york times," if we have 3500 confirmed cases here in the united states, you might be looking at 35,000 in reality. >> so the economic fallout from the coronavirus has been unrelenting on wall street as yesterday the nasdaq suffered its worst one day drop every and the dow experienced its third worst day ever. the dow dropping nearly 3,000 points and both dropping over 12% while the nasdaq's biggest one-day plunge ever had it plunge 12.3%. the day of losses comes one day after the fed cut interest rates to zero and pledged $700 billion in asset purchasing programs to protect the economy during the outbreak. however, this morning, all three indices are poised to bounce back as stock futures are
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pointing towards positive openings. >> so after calling his state's efforts to curb the coronavirus, more dramatic and the most effective than any other state in america, new york governor andrew cuomo fears their best efforts might still not be enough. >> i don't believe we're going to be able to flatten the curve enough to meet the capacity of the health care system. >> over the weekend, governor cuomo penned an op-ed in the "new york times" calling on a stronger government response from the president, requesting that he mobilize the military to fight the pandemic. and when asked yesterday about deploying fema or other government agents for relief, the president said he hopes it doesn't come to that. >> mr. president, one of the big weaknesses in our health care system is search capacity for a medical fall and i wanted to ask what precautions, what plan is
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being done to get -- china was able to build hospital necessary a matter of days. are you prepareded to use the core of engineers or fema to start building capacity that we may need in a couple of weeks? >> first of all, we hope we don't get there. we're taking over buildings that aren't used. we're doing a lot in that regard. we hope we don't have to get there, but we are doing a lot in that regard. the house unanimously passed an emergency bill last night. nancy pelosi and treasury secretary steve mnuchin worked out technical corrections to the proposal and were able to get it through the house without objection. louis gomer initially threatened to block the bill because of what he considered its harmful effects on businesses.
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the need could take up the multibillion dollar package as early as today. >> let's get into this. joining us from washington, scott wong. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> i think a lot of americans are on their seats here waiting for this thing to get passed. so talk about this especially with regard to treasury secretary steve mnuchin heading back to capitol hill to talk about this package. is he going to be able to get senate republicans on board with this thing and push it through? >> he's going to make his best pitch on what we're calling phase three of the coronavirus response. phase three has to do more with injecting a stimulus into the economy. steve mnuchin told reporters that this is going to be a big number, particularly it's going to help small businesses, but also major industries that have
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been devastated by people staying home, not going on vacations, not traveling, you know, by airplane, by cruise ship. so we don't quite know what's in it, but we have a good sense. the airline industry has requested $50 billion in aid in order to stay afloat. there's, really, a threat we're hearing from lawmakers and airline executives that airlines could go under if the government does not intervene. so steve mnuchin is going to be meeting with his colleagues on capitol hill. republican colleagues and try to work out some kind of deal. i think they feel it's important this thing starts in the republican-controlled senate where the white house has more control over this stimulus package compared to the last phase which originated in the house of representatives which is controlled by nancy pelosi and the democrats. >> scott, if you are somebody
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like us who watches the president every day at press kornss, comments, statements, you would notice there was a shift in his tone at the press conference yesterday, specifically talking about the coronavirus pandemic. what is the focus do you think of the white house as it now looks to keep the president on message after weeks of infighting over the administration's response. separate that away from what he's saying on twitter, but how would you rate his performance yesterday and his tone and demeanor at that news conference? >> yeah, i completely agree. there was a shift in his tone. he was serious, he was sober. he talked about the coronavirus being sort of like an invisible -- you know, attacking this from inside. and so it was significant. so far in the weeks leading up to this moment, we had seen leadership, we had seen steps
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taken from governors, from different states, and there was a patchwork of policies that were being put in place. school closures in this particular state and that particular state, now we are seeing the federal government and specifically the president speak with one voice, obviously, a lot of americans are hoping this continues as they look to him for some direction on how they should respond to the coronavirus. >> it was interesting. for the first time, we heard the president actually admit that this situation was bad. i think it's certainly that there was a change of tone there with the president. scott wong, thank you so much for your time. i appreciate it. >> thank you. still lady, the coronavirus is impacting the justice system.
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does the buck stop with you? and on a scale of 1 to 10, how would you rate your response to this crisis? >> i'd rate it a ten. i think we've done a great job. welcome back, everyone. so that was president trump giving himself a perfect score in handling the outbreak of the coronavirus in the united states. meanwhile, airlines around the world may be facing bankruptcy in the coming months as more countries close their boarders and more global citizens shelter in place. political reports that u.s. airlines are asking for nearly $60 billion in direct assistance in loan guarantees, three times that made available after the 9/11 attacks.
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according topo litco, airlines are facing billions in losses. >> so as the u.s. continues to battle the spread of the coronavirus pandemic, the federal government is working to stop large gatherings. 27 states are under orders to stop jury trials and restrict the number of people who can come to court. some have postponed trials while many ago expects of the system can be put off while others cannot. a small number of jurisdictions have sought to reduce the number of people held in jail before trial. an outbreak in a jail or prison is not a question of if, but a
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question of when. meanwhile, the supreme court said it would postpone certain cases because of health concerns related to the pandemic. the last time oral arguments were post poend whack bass in 1918. >> danny, quite a development yesterday. what exactly dictate these course closiers? and how does that square off with what our rights are in the constitution when we are being detained and expect fast and due process? >> if it's federal court, the
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chief judge there is in charge and there isn't really a centralized control feature for our nation's courts. and i'm not talking about the lower level city and county courts. when you think about courthouses, they are the worst place for a pandemic because their very nature is they bring in people from all walks of life and you basically sit around all day and wait for your case. it's not optimal. in t in the last few years, some courts are getting up to speed with i filing. some koirts are having telekornss where possible. but the nature of a court is
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that some have a right to face their accusers. there is something essential about the courthouse still running and still having essential procedures. >> what is worst case scenario if this thing is not managed? >> the courthouses are a problem. another major problem are the jails and prisons and the other part of the court system, the criminal justice system where you often stack prisoners in urban buildings on top of each other and many of them are detained people who are presumed innocent. >> custody for temporary release or for how long? >> if it's a pretrial detainee, it is for pretrial release because a pretrial detainee is
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foreign power was behind the attack. >> the hhs released a statement. early on while preparing and responding to covid-19, hhs put extra precautions in place. we are coordinating with federal law enforcement and remain vigilant on the integrity of our i.t. infrastructure. let's switch gears for a moment and take a look at our forecast. >> i'll quickly update you on the trends. this is why so many things and our policymakers, this is what we're going to be staring at. yesterday we added almost a thousand new cases that was a daily record and we're seeing the growth continue to be about whatever the number is about 1.25 to 1.3 the next day.
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so two weeks ago, we are at about a hundred cases. now we're at 4,661 cases and that implied growth is about 25% to 35% daily. and just to let you know, if we continue that trend and we don't blunt it by the end of the month, we'll be somewhere around 75,000 cases in the country. we have to flat than curve. and as far as the map goes that shows you all the different states here in the u.s., if you look at all the different cases that we have and new york state passed washington state with now about 967 cases, washington state, a little over 900. the next highest ago we go to other areas of the country, new jersey is a little less than 200. but if we add up what is going on in california, which is a little over 500 are, washington state about 900 and new york about 900, those cases are about
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half the cases. new york city right now barely under about 500 cases, about 1 in 10 cases in the country is right here where we are. so as far as your forecast goes getting back to the weather, it is still winter. it is snowing in areas such as massachusetts and in the higher terrain. we will clear out as we go throughout the day. the worst of the weather is earlier today. all the southern half of the country is still very, very warm. there was an interesting study that came out. it was not peer reviewed. there were some signs that they said they did respond to the heat and humidity but this enthe cdc came out and said there's not enough evidence to say it will be better this summer with the hot and humid areas.
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>> we need to wait for the hard science to come in on this. >> it will be hard to be patient, though, right? >> yeah. but for now, i think the important thing is to follow what we know is working right now, stay indoors, follow the rules and guidance. >> yeah. follow those guidelines if you can. still to come, president trump shifts his tone on the coronavirus. first he was saying it would miraculously go away and now he is saying it could last for months. >> researchers trying out an experimental coronavirus vaccine. we're going to talk about the worldwide fight against the virus, ahead. we are back in a moment. e virus, ahead we are back in a moment. ...depend® silhouette™ briefs feature maximum absorbency, beautiful colors and an improved fit for a sleek design and personal style. life's better when you're in it. be there with depend®. looking to repair dry, damaged hair
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welcome back, everybody. we begin this half hour with president trump's dramatic shift in tone after repeatedly down playing the impact of the coronavirus. at a briefing yesterday in which the white house aimed new guidelines aimed at spreading the illness, president trump said it could last for months and drive the u.s. into an economic recession. >> a lot of people are concerned about how long all of this might last. do you have any kind of estimate that if americans really were to band together -- >> i do -- >> and do what the white house is suggesting, how quickly can we turn the corner? >> my favorite question. i think i ask that question every day and i speak to deborah, i speak to a lot of
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people. i get the opinions. so it seems to me that if we do a really good job, we will not only hold the death down to a level that is much lower than the other way, had we not done a good job, but people are talking about july, august, something like that. so it could be in that 3erd of time where it -- i say wash, washes through. other people don't like that term, but where it watches through. >> so is this the new normal until the height of the summer? we'll see what happens, but they think august could be july, could be longer than that. but i've asked that question many, many times. >> the stock market took another hit today. is this country heading into a recession? >> well, it may be. i think there's a tremendous pent up demand both in the terms
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of the stock market and the economy. i think what we do -- and i've spoke ton my son. he says, how bad is this? it's bad. but we're going to be hopefully a best case, not a worst case. >> so the "new york times" is reporting that infighting within the trump administration through a series of questionable personnel choices paired with family ties has disrupted the nation's response to this coronavirus pandemic. president trump has sees the stock market up hends everyday americans lives, but it was his decision to release mick mulvaney, mike pence leading the task force was met by one senior
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adviser who publicly encouraged people to go on television and criticize mr. pence and his aides. but the president's son-in-law stepped in to smooth ruffled feathers. attendees describe the miethd as weird at best and chilly at worst. ohio's primary election has been postponed by the governor due to coronavirus fears. late last night, governor mike dewine tweeted during this time when we face an unprecedented public health crisis would force poll workers and voters to place themselves at an unacceptable
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health risk of contracting coronavirus. earlier in the day, a judge backed the effort to move the primaries to june 11th. three other states are expected to told their primaries today. officials in illinois, arizona and florida have all said elections will be proceeding. in total, there are 441 delegates up for grabs between those three states. joining us once again, scott wong. i want to get your thoughts quickly before we can get to the president, a little bit about delaying the nature of the elections in ohio. what do you know about the disruption this may cause to the overall process? >> well, it hasn't been just
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ohio. it has been some other states later in the calendar that pushed back their primary schedule. what is interesting with regard to today, this stick primary, is that you have once again, one state, loy, doing one thing saying because of the health concerns of our poll workers and voters in general, especially the vulnerable elderly population, we can't afford to have all of these people in close proximity standing in line for hours and hours and then you have these other states such as florida saying we've voted in civil wars before, we can allow a vote to move forward in this situation. you have inconsistencies across the board from these various state leaders. again, this might be a situation where the president could step in and say, this is what we should do, but it's resulted in a lot of confusion. and there probably will be thousands of people who do show up at the polls in ohio this
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down businesses and ordering people to remain in their homes for the next several weeks. so we are seeing governors step up and local officials step up and fill the void that had been left by the white house and the president in terms of not giving the american public clear directions and clear actions and in terms of how serious to take this coronavirus now you are seeing, for the most part, the federal government get on the same page with a lot of the warnings that we had been hearing from governor cuomo and larry hogan and gavin newsome. >> i spoke to a friend on the coronavirus task force who basically says he's incredibly impressed with the measures that the governor of ohio is taking. while ohio is not a hot zone as of yet, he is getting ahead of the thing to make sure it never gets there. >> thanks, scott. >> thank you. still ahead, u.s. volunteers have begun testing the first potential coronavirus vaccine. we will speak to a leading
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welcome back. the first potential vaccine for coronavirus is now in trials. at a white house coronavirus briefing just yesterday, cdc infectious disease expert dr. anthony fauci said healthy volunteers in the seattle area became the first test remedy for the rapidly spreading disease. watch this. >> what it is is a trial of 45 normal individuals between the ages of 18 and 55. the trial is taking place in seattle. there will be two injections, one ott zero day, the first one. then there would be two separate doses and the individuals will
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be followed for one year. both for safety and whether it produces the kinds of results that we think are predictive. >> the first stage study is expected to take up to 18 months. >> joining us now via skype, the national school of tropical medicine professor of pediatrics and mow electric lal virology and college of medicine, dr. howitz. it is good to have you with us this morning. obviously a lot of people will be watching this thinking it is a break through. how promising is find ago break through generally for something like this? >> this is not a vaccine. the likelihood of any one vaccine is making it all the way through and shown to be lessificive is less than 50/50. so the idea is to get at least five or six of these vaccines through a pipeline of clinical
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trials and ours hopefully will be one of those vaccines. then we're going to go through a long process of a graded stepwise testing to show first that it's safe and lengthy, then you move it to an area of transition and you determine that it seems to have a protective effect. so this is a new virus. it is not easy. we're moving our vaccine forward, as well, and hopefully you'll be seeing@least half a dozen of these new vaccines moving through a pipeline. but it's not a quick thing. it takes time to show this vaccine is safe and effective.
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you're probably not going to have a vaccine in time for this epidemic in 2020. >> what type of risks are these volunteers facing? also, i was you reading about the swine flu and from the time it showed up on our shores april april, they developed a vaccine by around october, six months or so. do you understand or know why it was that it took six months to develop that vaccine here in the united states while it could take feasibly up to 18 months for that vaccine for the coronavirus? >> that's right. flu is a well oiled machine. we have a ready made infrastructure for moving vaccines through regularly. this is so that even though you
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were calling it swine flu, it sounds like it's something really different. it's very much related to other seasonal influenza strands in terms of the vaccine development. so the fda knows what to look for. the fda knows what to expect. with a brand new vaccine, it's a very different story. i should mention that the fda's ordered a piece that focuses on vaccines. they're some of the best vaccine scientists in the country so they're really good and they're really careful. you hear a lot of stuff. among the pharmaceuticals, vaccines are about the highest there is, they're the single most tested pharmaceutical we have testing for safety. that's great news, but it also means that it's not a quick fix, that it will take some time. >> the best to you and the team that is working on this. we appreciate your time and
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thank you for joining us this morning. >> thank you. what's happening now is we're trying to get everybody to work from home except our coronavirus vaccine team so they're an incredible number of individuals working to put this into clinical trials. >> thank you so much to them and everyone else on the front lines. thank you. >> yeah. we want to bring in bill karins right now. he has some new charts on the developments. >> we've been working on this map, too. the blue is the midwest. the red is the northeast. as far as our cousin goes, a lot of the cases are centered in washington state, new york state, and also as heth into other areas of the south. as far as new cases went 887 yesterday. we could get some severe weather
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1987, black monday we were up 1,000 points early on on dow futures, but we've given back most of the territory, suggesting a wild ride in pre-market action, even before wall street opened this morning. the scene is set for mor here in europe this morning, we did have a rebound of 2% that gave way quickly. perhaps a precursor for what to expect. president trump notat helping yesterday by not talking about a recession. also a u-turn on coronavirus, suggesting the impact right out until july and august. think about where companies are at. suggesting a rebound in the third quarter of this year. this morning, one of the biggest manufacturers in the world saying it is bimpossible to forecast the hit of coronavirus. meantime, elsewhere, take a look at what the airlines are doing. very much on the front line of this t crisis from the beginnin with a demand slump, now travel bans that keep growing. u.s.ep airlines are seeking $50 billion in financial assistance from the government. that is more than threee times the size of the industry bailout
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september 11 after the attacks. the amount of that assistance and how it'd be applied is not yet certain. big companies like boeing, for instance, part of the short-term assistance conversations. back to you. >> we'll beck watching at marke open for sure, to see if it'll be yeto another wild day. karen, great seeing you. thanks. up next, axios' one big thing. on "morning joe," president trump'sg dramatic shift in ton as the white house releases new guidelines to help stem the coronavirus outbreak. as the number of confirmed u.s. cases rises, so does the demand for medical equipment needed to treat the expected influx of people requiring treatment. we'll speak with several leading health experts about where things stand in the face of all this tcrisis. "morning joe" mome." ng joe" m."t in funding will be spent on programs that touch us all. shape your future. start here. complete the census at 2020census.gov.
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mccammen, good morning. >> good morning to you. >> talk to us about axios' one big thing. >> of course, it's about coronavirus. as you both know through your relentless and thorough reporting on this public health crisis, we are simply in a new era of public pain. the coronavirus pandemic is, frankly, a disaster with no modern historical parallels, no safe harbor, and really no escape route. this might be the most sustained period of widespread and public pain we've felt since world war ii. the big picture, of course, is that even with other calamities, things like national disaster disasters,tdisasters, terrorist attacks, those things happen at one place and one time. with the coronavirus outbreak, that's something that's touching everyone, unfortunately, everywhere. according to everything we've heard and reported, likely for a very long time. >> alexi, let me get your thoughts quickly on how it is affecting the politics in this country, at least the voting process. could voting by mail replace
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same-day polling, place voting down the line? do you see what's happening with the coronavirus making a case to change how we fundamentally vote in this country? >> we are in an unprecedented time t. w time, and the ways in which coronavirus affects the election remains to be seen as we're figuring this out together. one change we're seeing already is how states are scrambling to adapt to this moment by adopting mail-in voting for their states. they're forced to scrap long voting lines and polling places. caucuses are a questionable way to vote, especially after iowa, but now in light of the coronavirus outbreak. wisconsin scrapped the in-person voting and is requesting mail-in or drop-off ballots only. the governor of illinois told npr earlier this week he was considering doing mail-in voting for the primary today. we can't simply put all these folks in a room together or line
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together line we typically have with elections. after the iowa caucuses debacle, the caucuses were the first electoral traditions that were on the chopping block in the 2020 election. now, i'm looking at the trends and thinking that polling places and voting lines could be on the chopping block next. >> alexi, we saw a little of a change of tone from the president in his briefing yesterday. we do know the president has had quite a bit of a credibility problem up until this point. how has that affected his public support during this crisis? >> a new survey from axios and surveymonkey shows strong majorities of americans have far greater trust in public health officials than they do in president trump's handling of coronavirus. that matters for president trump because it would presumably give him a boost in support when he is embracing these public health officials and standing in lock step with them publicly and privately, to figure out what's going on with coronavirus. as we did in the pretty candid remarks yesterday.
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now, in the same survey we have, his public approval rating was around 47%. that's actually a little higher than the 42% you see in other national approval polls of his job as president. you know, the thing that is clear from this surveys, and anecdotally, is people want the trusted facts from public health officials. according to this survey and others, as long as president trump continues to embrace these folks and listen to them, deploy the task force to figure out what's going on, his approval rating might stay where it's at. it might even go up. >> alexi, thank you so much. appreciate that. of course, we'll be reading axios am in a little bit. sign up at signup.axios.com. that does it for us on this tuesday morning. i'm yasmin vossoughian alongside ayman mohyeldin. "morning joe" starts right now. my administration is recommending that all americans, including the young and healthy, work to engage in schooling from
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home when possible. avoid gathering in groups of more than ten people. avoid discretionary travel. avoid eating and drinking at bars, restaurants, and public food courts. if everyone makes this change or these critical changes and sacrifices now, we will rally together as one nation, and we will defeat the virus. >> a dramatic shift in tone from president trump yesterday as the white house releases new guidelines for the nation to combat the coronavirus. good morning and welcome to "morning joe." it is tuesday, march 17th. along with joe, willie, and me, we have national security expert, columnist at "usa today," and author of "the death of expertise," tom nichols. historian, author of "the soul of america," and roger's professor of the presidency at vanderbilt, john meacham. nbc news and
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