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everybody's sake that this cruel virus finds a way to be kind to all who were there. that is our broadcast for this thursday night from our temporary satellite studio. thank you for being here with us and good night. good morning, everyone. it is friday, march 20th. the number of cases of the coronavirus in the united states has now passed 14,000 and the number of deaths, more than 200. california is now the first state to order its residents to stay home. governor gavin newsome says he expects more than half of his state's 40 million residents will become infected with the virus. a staggering number. meanwhile, the state of new york is now reporting more than 5700. the number of confirmed cases exploding as more and more
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people get tested. the governor has ordered 75% of the workforce and nonessential services to stay home. almost 70% of confirmed cases in new york state are in new york city. mayor de blasio warns that the city's hospitals are two to three weeks away from running out of essential medical supplies. in california, the state will be closing all businesses not needed to sustain life. meanwhile, in florida, miami-dade county and others have been ordered to close beaches, but the governor refuses to require closings.
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one hospital in minnesota is considering shutting its doors over supply concerns. and in illinois, an intensive care nurse was told to make a single use mask last for five days. meanwhile, in los angeles, doctors were forced to use expired masks to examine coronavirus patients, but the elastic bands snapped when they tried to put them on. others are turning to home made remedies to ease the burden. while doctors in seattle are using items purchased at home depot and craft stores to create protective face shields. all of this is happening as more health care workers could catch coronavirus. joining us now, drew armstrong. he's leading bloomberg's u.s. coverage of the coronavirus. drew, good morning to you. thanks for joining us on this. as testing becomes more available here in the united states, could we see a spike in
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the number as we have been seeing over the last couple of days? and the severity of the coronavirus cases being reported? >> yeah that's a really important question. and i think there's a couple of dynamics that we're about to see. so for weeks and weeks, the u.s. has been deemly short on the ability to test for the coronavirus and as a result you've seen all of these reports on people who are frustrated, that they can get tested. they have symptoms, they go to the hospital or their doctor, even if they have the travel history inside the u.s. or outside the u.s. and they get told, you know, you don't fit the criteria or we don't have tests right now. that is begin to go change. we're seeing there are some frustrations out there, but there is more and more volume of tests coming on. as a result, you're not only going to see a surge in cases, but an increase in the cases of milder cases. so the numbers are going to go
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up, but i think what you're not going to see at the early stages of the outbreak, you catch the most severe folks, even though you do miss some. but we're going to start catching more and more people who have a more mild case of this disease. and what we're doing right now is revealing the size of the outbreak that's there. >> i want to talk to you about health care in this country. we often think of ourselves living in a health care system. the implication is the shorter supplies exist, the more likely the health workers on the front lines of this are going to get sick, which means they, then, won't be able to treat some of the patients coming in in need of critical care. walk us through that cycle of how that could have an impact on battling the spread of coronavirus. >> yeah. what you're talking about is actually pretty shocking.
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we spoke to our folks out in the washington state area, which was the sight of the first u.s. coronavirus case that was identified. and they're having to make masks out of items they get from home depot and craft stores because they're run sog short. i mean, it's really remarkable. the hospital administrative staff at the headquarters in washington state essentially set up a craft and assembly line. people are sewing machines and they're building stuff for the doctors in the ceilings area. that is seattle area. that is a problem we are hearing about all over the country, people running out of protective gear. you need your health care workers safe in order to fight this virus. you also need them to feel like they are going to be protected. and if they don't feel like they have the tools to go to work, they can't keep themselves safe, they can't keep patients safe and it means that you lose the front line folks who are going
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to be most responsible for not only fighting this illness, but all the other things that go on day-to-day around the country. you need those people in the game and they need protective equipment and right now they're not getting it. >> especially when you're hearing the call for retired nurses and, doctors to come back and help battle this disease. those people are also very vulnerable because likely they're above that 70 year in age. drew armstrong, thank you so much. stay close. we're going to talk to you again in just a little bit. so italy has surpassed china in a grim milestone. the highest death toll now at 3,405 with 427 fatalities yesterday. in the northern italian city of burgamo, morgues and crematoriums, they're inundated and the italian army sent troops and trucks to help transport bodies to other provinces in
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italy not as strained from the outbreak. in france, a lockdown was being threatened due to lack of supplies. and as covid-19 has a heavy toll on iran, the u.s. state department announced a new round of sanctions on the country. >> while pakistan has set up a coronavirus near its border with iran, they say more than 1,000 people face appalling unsanitary conditions across east asia. china reported no new domestic cases of the coronavirus in that country. that is a number that is hard to independently verified, given the fact that they have
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reevently kicked out western reporters. allie, good to have you with us, as always. there are fear necessary iran that its biggest holiday ruse will only worsen the coronavirus outbreak in the country given the time that it is for celebrations. people get together. it is meant to be a festive time of the year. >> is it likely going to worsen the situation? >> people do a lot of traveling during per shsia new year. people have remained at home for weeks now. it was only yesterday that the government shut down bazaars and malls. but people i've been speaking to tell me who have been
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self-isolating tell me that they're going stir crazy at home, but it's better than catching the virus in a country ill equipped to deal with it. but on the other hand, we've seen a lot of reckless behavior in iran. the other night during one of the new year's rel bragzs, pockets of people gathered shoulder to shoulder to celebrate part of the new year festivals. nobody was wearing a mask. quite frankly, it was shocking to see. there have been huge traffic jams across the country with people either trying to come into the big cities or head out to the countryside. so if people don't act responsibly in a country of 82 million people that has one of the worst outbreaks anywhere in the world and a lack of resources to deal with it, then it will be a problem.
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>> what are you hearing with regard to who has been more effective there? >> it's affected a vast range of people. the numbers are updated in a couple of hours, but the numbers from yesterday were almost 19,000 people infected. and 1,300 deaths from the coronavirus. and it keeps going up every day, yasmin. >> thank you, allie. still ahead, two republican senators are being accused of insider trading after reports revealed they sold off stock following closed door briefings about coronavirus. danny savalas will join us for that story. plus, what the white house is saying about a shortage of protective gear. those stories and then, of course, a check on your weather when we come back. course, a che when we come back.
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so welcome back, everybody. two republican senators are now facing questions after new reporting reveals they sold off significant amounts in stocks weeks before coronavirus caused wall street to tank. senator and intelligence committee chair richard burr sold off between 628,000 and $1.7 million of his holdings on february 13th. the report points out that as the head of the intel committee, burr has access to the government's most highly classified information about threats to america's security and his committee was receiving daily coronavirus briefings around this time. npr is reporting that a few weeks later, on february 27th, burr raised alarms about coronavirus while speaking to a group of constituents. >> there's one thing i can tell you about this. it is much more aggressive in its transition than anything we
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have seen in recent history. it's probably more akin to the 1918 pandemic. >> so an aide to the senator telling nbc news that the stock sales were, quote, made several week before the u.s. and financial markets showed signs of volatility due to the coronavirus outbreak. >> and the daily beast is reporting that senator kelly lauffler sold off seven figures of stock holdings in the days and weeks after a private all-senators meeting on the coronavirus. lauffler reported the first sale of stock jointly owned by her and her husband on january 24th, the very same day the senate health committee held a briefing with several officials include the cdc and dr. anthony fauci. she said i do not make investment decisions for my portfolio. investment decisions are made by multiple third party advisers
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without my or my husband's knowledge or involvement. meanwhile, the "new york times" reports two other senators sold major holdings around that time. burr did. dianne feinstein of california and james einhoff of oklahoma. joining us now, danny savales. as you can imagine, lots of questions about what exactly is at play here. some people are accusing both senators of what they're saying is insider trading. can you walk us through exactly what insider trading is and why it is illegal and if this meets the tlet threshold of that. >> there is no express definition of insider trading. courts have struggled over the years to define what it is and it's an elusive concept. why would anybody get involved in the market unless they felt like they knew something that
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somebody otherwise did not know. so courts have struggled to define what exactly is insider trading, but generally speaking, it's using material nonpublic information, information that you wouldn't normally have access to as a member of the public, as an insider, so to speak. for a long time, it's been long suspected that members of congress have special access to secure information and that they trade on it. one famous study from 2004 showed a group of senators beat the market average more than 12%. that is more than bernie madoff. he was from 10% to 12%. that beat the bernie madoff average at the time. so this is compelling information. in 2012, the concept itself remains elusive for prosecutors
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to define. >>. >> i was going to say, i'm sure senator burr is getting access to some information about the coronavirus that the three of us are not getting from resources it has. >> walk us through what the process from here would look like if, in fact, an investigation were to be launched into this and if they were to prove that knowledge was used to assist in these trades. what would be the penalty for that? >> there are a couple of different ways of prosecuting. you can use traditional forms of prosecution, but then the s.e.c. can civilly prosecute or bring suit against a defender. but, again, defining insider trading can be very difficult. we know the extreme cases when we see them because they usually involved some sort of fraud or deceit in order to obtain the information. but it is difficult to define
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when a member of congress comes into possession of information that is material and nonpublic, but they gained it as part of their job. so even though the 2012 sock act tried to close the loophole, it remains difficult to prosecutor members of congress and the public alike. >> does it have to be something as exact as that? >> that is the classic, easy heest, lowest hanging fruit for a prosecutor. so that would be helpful for a prosecutor to be able to demonstrate that to a jury, something that looks pretty bad when you see it. >> all right. thank you, as always, my friend. great seeing you. still ahead, hospitals across the country are facing shortages, but president trump says he's not to blame. his new remarks, coming up. blae his new remarks, coming up now in one pot, and with tendercrisp technology, you can cook foods that are crispy on the outside
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the white house claims that supplies are available now. >> we're working with governor toes make sure that the health care providers, the hospitals and the clinics in their state are placing orders now that this tremendous increase in supply, particularly -- legislation and the accomplishment the president and the response by these kbs is making more masks available. and we're going to make sure health care providers are purchasing those and the federal government will also make sure that our stockpile properly reflects those increases, as well. >> so when will those masks about he ready for -- because they need them, like, today. >> they're available now. >> so meanwhile, bloomberg reports that it could take up to 18 months for hospitals to see supplies from companies making masks right now. and here is how the prt
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addressed the federal government's role in the nationwide shortage of medical equipment. watch. >> you enabled,s guess, is probably the best way to put it the defense production act yesterday, but you didn't pull the trigger on it. >> no, because we hope we're not going to need that. >> you're getting a lot of calls from capitol hill to pull the trigger on it. what is the rationale? >> first of all, governors are supposed to be doing a lot of this work. federal government is not supposed to be out there buying vast amounts of items and shipping. we're not a shipping clerk. the governors are supposed to be -- as with testing, the governors are supposed to be doing it. we'll help out and we'll help out wherever we can and we can buy in volume and in some cases great volume with the masks as an example, which are really a problem. we have helped out and there are right now millions of masks being made. but this is really for the local governments, the governors and people within the state depending on the way they divide it up. and they will do that and
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they're doing a very good job of it. where you have a problem with ventilators trying to find, nobody in their wildest dreams would have ever thought that we need tens of thousands of ventilators. this is something that is very unique to this. >> the difficult thing to digest in all of this, when you hear from the coronavirus task force they are saying, we have the masks, we have the tests, and literally the next hour we bring on someone from the medical community who says i can't get the masks. we have shortages. and then you bring on someone else who says i can't get tested. there is a major disconnect from what the task force is telling people with what is happening on the ground. we want to bring in bill karins. as we are seeing more testing, authorities have warned more testing means more positive cases. >> yeah. the press conference right now says don't look at the curve.
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they know how bad it is. the reason they're saying that is because right now we're on pace worse than where italy was. the numbers may be skewed a bit right now. they're saying next week they think it will level off. but you can see how it jumped up here this week. we're up to 14,139 cases. that is doubling every three days with that growth race of 35%. we're really fighting the math now. if we do three sex of doubling, in nine days from now, we would have 120,000 cases. that's how horrible the math gets here when you start to talk about every three days these numbers begin to double. so they don't want us to look at that curve. but this curve has nothing to do with testing 37 this is the fatality curve in our country right now. march 4th, we had 11 deaths. now we're up to 204 fatalities and growing. that's an implied growth rate of about 23% each day, guys. this has nothing whatsoever to
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do with the testing curve. and you can see the curve that we're on for fatalities in this country. that is alarming, staggering, and that is where we're heading next week. we're going to watch that number begin to double every four days. >> do you have any details per that fatality number, the 204 that you have up there as to how many folks among those people were immunocompromised or over the age of 70? >> a lot of that -- all these numbers that we get here are for each state individually and some states are reporting on age, sex of the people, but not every state. so we are unable to put that together as a nation as a whole, but they're working on it. >> thank you, bill. still ahead, president trump says the fda has approved an antimalaria drug to treat coronavirus, but the fda does not appear to be on the same page. plus, what lawmakers are doing to stay safe amid the
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welcome back, everybody. we're going to begin this half hour with the confusion caused by the president yesterday after he stated that an anti-malaria drug would be available, quote, almost immediately to help treat coronavirus. just minutes later, though, the fda commissioner kaugdzed that the drug has not been approved for use against the virus and is still being tested. watch this. >> a drug called chloraquine and
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some people would add to it hydroxy. hydroxychloraquine. now this is a common malaria drug and it's shown very encouraging, very, very encouraging early results. and we're going to be able to make that drug available almost immediately. and that is where the fda has been so great. >> i have great hope for how we're going to come out of this situation. what is also important is not to provide falsehood. the fda is committed to continuing to provide regulatory flexibility and guidance. but let me make one thing clear. the fda's responsibility to the american people is to ensure that products are safe and effective. we need to make sure that this sea of new treatments will get
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the right drug to the right patient at the right dosage at the right time. as an example, we may have the right drug, but it may not be in the appropriate dossage form right now and that may do more harm than good. the fda put out a statement after that briefing reading in part this, while there are no fda-approved therapeutics or drugs to treat, care or prevent covid-19, there are several fda-approved treatments that may help ease the symptoms. >> sten nigh hoyer announced to members yesterday saying no decisions have been made on what the changes will be, but options such as remote voting are being discussed. his message comes as the house is on a temporary recess and one day after two congressmen tested post for the dangerous.
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mario and ben mcadams. meanwhile, the senate is working on an economic package that could easily top $1 trillion in an effort to save the economy hoyer said, quote, it is my intention that the house will not return until we can respond to this crisis. joining us now once again, health care editor for broomburg, drew armstrong. good to have you back with us. let's go back to this for a moment, if i can. there's new evidence that more young adults are falling seriously ill due to coronavirus. that could change the dynamic of the public perception of this
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virus as we've been constantly talking about the past wum coupf days. what does this new information tell us? >> i think the physicians treating it race to get as much information as they can on who is getting sick and how sick are they getting? and the evidence that we're seeing so far is that, yes, while older people, people in their 70s, people in their 80s have accounted for a tremendous number of the deaths and in extremely severe cases, young people are also not without risk. people with underlying medical conditions can be at risk. in some cases, there have been
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reports that it was revealed somebody was sick with somebody else. and when we say underlying medical condition, that can include things like high blood pressure, diabetes, cardiovascular conditions or potential lung conditions. so young people are not among. we have seen a number of severe cases. i think the good news is that deaths for young people appear to be significantly lower, so they have some likelihood of getting quite sick and needing to be hospitalized. that said, you know, a young person in a hospital bed still takes up a bed from somebody else who might need it. so some of those social distancing steps are important no matter who you are. and remember that young people can be carriers. you can be perfectly healthy and still give it to somebody else
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who needs to be protected. >> true, appreciate your insights this morning. still ahead, a new advisory warns u.s. citizens to stop traveling outside of the country. that story and a check in with a leading health expert, next. your first look at "morning joe" is back in a moment. who has time for wrinkles? neutrogena® rapid wrinkle repair®. we've got the retinol that gives you results in one week. not just any retinol. accelerated retinol sa.
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the u.s. state department warned u.s. citizens to stop traveling outside of the country and urged them to return home citing the coronavirus pandemic. they raised its travel advisory to level four. that is do not travel. yesterday issuing an advisory that states, quote, if you choose to travel internationally, your travel plans may be severely disrupted and you may be force dollars to remain outside of the united states for an indefinite time frame. >> joining us now, dr. catherine
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jacobson. doctor, thanks for joining us this morning. i think one of the major questions on the miebz of americans right now is when does life go back to normal? when are we going to be able to flatten that curve and people can start emerging from their homes again going back to simple things like going out for pizza on a friday night? how long do you foresee at this point, considering all the information that we have, do you see us having to stay in some sort of social isolation? >> it's a little early to be thinking about how long this might go on. so everybody is talking right now about how we can flatten the curve. one of the things we're not talking about is when we're talking about flattening the curve, this is about more than coronavirus. if we have hospitals that are overwhelmed with coronavirus patients, that means they're not going to have the staff sxre sources to care for other things and we're going to start seeing more people die from heart attacks and strokes not being able to access cancer
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treatments, we're going to see major disruption of the health care system. so for right now, what we want to do is to have as many people as are able to stay home to really flatten that curve. the more we do now, the quicker we can start having some normal life in at least some parts of the country. but this is going to go on for a while. >> so we've focused a lot on the issue of containment and as governor cuomo talks about density reduction. and we talk a lot about that. but are there any other measures that should be implemented in order to contain the spread of the virus? obviously, we're bouncing around ideas like shelter in place. should travel be suspended in parts of the country? airline travel, domestic travel, any other measures you think thoob taken? >> right. so traveling is part of our cool
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kit. right now, testing, looking to see where more patients are being hospitalized because of severe pneumonia, looking at this death rate, that will give the information about where there are hot spots in the u.s. and maybe where there are less affected areas. until we have a map that shows where this is happening and how it's happening in different parts of the u.s., the more people can stay closer to home. >> hasn't that already happened? when we look at the maps, we clearly see the clusters in the united states being new york, california and washington. >> those are definite clusters and we expect urban areas will probably be more affected. we have higher density, more crowded, more exposure to international travelers. we are not yet sure how this might be affecting more rural areas. >> thank you, appreciate it. let's switch gears now and
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bring in meteorologist bill karins who has been tracking the numbers of the coronavirus outbreak for us in addition to the weather. you have some new numbers since we spoke to you yesterday. >> this time i promise i will get to the weekend forecast because so many people want to get outdoors and want to do stuff. so here is what we dealt with just yet alone. each one of these bars represents the number of reports. and they're divided up into colors. the blue is the -- the lighter blue is areas of the west. so here is what happened yesterday. we were expecting this really big increase and it did happen. we got the numbers in approximately almost 5,000 new cases yesterday alone. that is why this bar is so huge. and you'll notice the rest is a huge chunk of it. yesterday at one point, i added up the cases in new york city and the surrounding commuter
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counties, rockland, west chester, and if you add up all those, it's half the cases in the country. that is how bad it is where we are right now. this is the calendar for march. we started on the first of march with 75 cases. then by the middle to the 10th, the 11th, we're about a thousand. then we jumped over 10,000 and yesterday 15,000. so you can see how quickly the math works against us with this exponential death rate. so to get to the forecast, we had rough weather outnight. as far as the weekend forecast is going to go, we're going to see a storm system brewing in the southern half of the country, but it will take a little bit to get there.
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saturday we start to watch the rain breaking out in much of texas. this will spread into the northeast as we go into sunday. notice the northern edge of this may be a little bit of snow. it shouldn't really be accumulating. there is a chance on monday, monday night, areas of new england, especially central new england could get a snowstorm out of this. there is a point some of that snow could try to get down into new york city. it's one of those things we'll watch. it will be almost 80 degrees in philadelphia. >> and then a possible snowstorm in two days. wow, what has the world come to? thank you, bill. >> thanks, bill. still ahead, from booze to hand sanitizer and auto parts, how businesses are stepping up to combat the coronavirus. plus, the latest steps for congress to help with this crisis. congress to help with this crisis
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welcome back. businesses are stepping up to combat the coronavirus while also finding ways to make a profit in this stuff through t to how businesses are trying to help fight the virus. >> yasmin, businesses are pitching in. very reminiscent of wartimes, doing what they can. it is clear demand has fallen off a cliff for this of the companies. they've reorganized their businesses. one food group in the states has moved from supplying restaurants many of which have been shut, to taking food directly to consumers. gives a new meaning from farm to plate. those businesses are trying to connect people to much-needed food supplies. also gins. distilleries from the uk to europe to australia are reorganizing to provide hand sanitizer which, of course, is very much needed during the crisis. we have social distancing out
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there, but in the home, some of the makers of crondons are encouraging intimacy. airlines are flying cargo-only flights for for the time in decades to get telecommunications, electronics, e-commerce items to market. there is talk of airlines redeploying their staff to delivery or retail services. autos. we've seed tn the impact. a virtual closer on dealership and demand for cars. some are trying to get into the business of ventilators to help coronavirus patients. face masks. there is one lady in paris, a seamstress who had been working with high-end fashion, has gone into the business of making face masks for her local hospital. they're out of vacuum cleaners for filter bags. many consumers changing habits to work in the house. they, of course, are using more virtual businesses like fitness classes to stay fit at this point. back to you in the studio.
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>> cnbc's karen tso live from london. thank you so much. coming up next, a look at axios' one big thing. on "morning joe," as the u.s. inches closer to a total lockdown over the coronavirus pandemic, california is the first state to order its residents to stay home. the coronavirus patients in new york city accounts for almost 70% of confirmed cases in the state, which is emerging as the epicenter of the outbreak here in the u.s. new york city mayor bill de blasio will be our guest. "morning joe" just moments away. . first with no annual service contracts. first with taxes and fees included. now t-mobile has the first and only nationwide 5g network. reaching over 5,000 cities and towns and over 200 million americans. and t-mobile is not charging extra for 5g access. because this isn't our network...
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detail of the way that the authorities concealed critical information, not just the famous case of the doctor who was detained and forced to retract his statements when he put them out, but everything from censorship of social media to the false statements that were actually put out by authorities as late as january the 15th, telling people that human-to-human transmission was very unlikely to happen. it's just terrible because when you talk to epidemiologists, you talk to the experts, these critical, early three weeks -- i mean, there is a university of southampton study that shows there'd be 95% reduction in cases in china had it been three weeks earlier. the chinese authorities often say don't intervene in our domestic policies. this is an example where chinese policies have harm on the rest of the globalized world.
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we're talking about death on a scale we can't yet imagine, let alone the economic impact. the three weeks is the responsibility of journalists to really investigate that. >> let's go with this because you had a rare interview this week with china's ambassador to the united states. that's going to be airing on this sunday's episode of "axios on hbo." what'd you learn in the interview? >> so the chinese communist party don't often allow european offici or western interviews. i interviewed the ambassador to the u.s. there will be a 40-minute interview as well as the short one. you'll see, they don't really have good answers. we went through in great detail the timeline of the cover-up and also some of the things they've been spreading to try and -- basically, they're doing two things. they're trying to cast out the origins of the virus. some of them are trying to say it originated from a u.s. military laboratory, which is
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bogus. they're also trying to put out a new narrative that china is saving the world. what they are trying to do is avoid actual questions about this first three-week period. we go through that in more detail than i've seen anywhere. hope people watch it. >> jonathan, we're definitely going to watch that. great on you for getting that interview and holding them to account. let's talk about domestic politics in the united states. what is axios reporting about the impact of the coronavirus on our president and his supporters? >> yeah. my colleagues have done extensive reporting on this. even though we're seeing all the focus on the big states like california and new york, trump country is actually very, very vulnerable, rural areas. you have an elderly population, people who maybe are on a low information diet, not necessarily getting the best public health information. also, there's a higher
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proportion of underlying illnesses which, of course, is a huge risk factor for this virus. there is -- we are seeing from experts early warning signs that this could have really devastating effect on people who live in the states that delivered donald trump the presidency. >> jonathan swan, great reporting, as always, my friend. >> thank you. >> we're going to be reading axios am in a little bit. signup.axios.com. that does it for us on this friday morning. i'm yasmin vossoughian alongside ayman mohyeldin. "morning joe" starts now. a state as large as ours, nation state, is many parts. at the end of the day, we're one body. there is a mutuality and there is a recognition of our interdependence that requires of this moment that we direct a statewide order for people to stay at home. that directive goes into force and effect this evening, and we were confident, we are confident, that the people of the state of california will
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abide by it. >> california governor gavin newsom announcing last night a statewide stay at home order, the first full state to do so. saying that he expects more than half of his state's 40 million residents will become infected with the coronavirus. the number of confirmed cases in the u.s. has now passed 14,000, and the number of deaths, more than 200. the state of new york is now reporting five times as many cases as california, more than 5,700. the number of confirmed cases exploding as more people get tested. new york is not yet ordering residents to stay home, but the governor has ordered 75% of the workforce in non-essential se vises to do so. almost 70% of confirmed cases in new york state are in new york city. nearly 4,000 in the city alone. mayor bill
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