welcome back. when we began the broadcast, the number of people infected has grown. tonight, stay informed, stay safe and sane. back at 6:00 p.m. monday night. t good evening. i am katy tur in new york. states and cities across the country are shutting down as the federal government grapples with the unfolding coronavirus crisis. escalating response in the last 24 hours, the governors of california, new york, and illinois are taking drastic action to keep people in their homes, ordering all rates to effectively stay in place. those states include the three largest population centers in the country, los angeles, new

york city, and chicago, all of which are grinding to a halt. >> this is a moment we need to make tough decisions. this is a moment where we need some straight talk and we need to tell people the truth. we need to bend the curve in the state of california. >> we're going to close the valve, all right, because the rate of increase in the number of cases portends a total overwhelming of our hospital system. we need everyone to be safe. otherwise, no one can be safe. >> the easy thing to say today is that soon everything will go back to the way it was. but i want to be honest with you about that, too. we don't know yet all the steps we are going to have to take to get this virus under control. >> as of tonight, the coronavirus has claimed the lives of 223 americans, with the

number of confirmed cases in this country reaching nearly 18,000. that's more than double the total of two days ago. the world also marked a grim new milestone as the mounting death toll from the virus exceeded 10,000. yet as millions of americans put their lives on hold, dr. anthony fauci today suggested that social distancing could go on for the foreseeable future. >> how long do you think americans need to be in this posture of staying at home and avoiding other people for it to work? >> obviously that's obviously the question that everyone is asking. if you look at the trajectory of curves of outbreaks in other areas, it will at least be several weeks. i can't see that next week or two weeks from now it will be over. >> in the briefing with the taskforce, president trump made a series of announcements, including agreement to restrict nonessential travel across the mexican border. he said the education department

would suspend testing requirements and stop collecting interest on federal student loans. and he said the treasury department would give taxpayers three months more to file their returns, moving the april deadline to july 15. late tonight, the white house announced a person in the vice president's office tested positive for coronavirus. we're also learning the confirmed cases in new york city alone exceeded 5,000. that accounts for one-third of all cases in the entire country, according to mayor bill de blasio who said his city is now the epicenter of the outbreak. >> i hate to say this, but it's true. we are now the epicenter of this crisis right here in the nation's largest city. >> i am joined by congressman gregory meeks of new york, epidemiologist dr. joseph fair. dr. fair, how long is this reasonably going to last? people are asking questions and fauci today certainly didn't give them a feeling that they're

going to be able to go back to their daily lives anytime soon. >> that is directly dependent on when everyone puts the standard, social distancing measures we are seeing for california, illinois, new york, every state, and frankly with absence of federal leadership on the issue, i think the association of governors have to make a uniform decision because unless we all do it and do it at the same time, i emphasize at the same time, it is just going to go on longer and longer and the derivative effects on the economy and everything else are going to continue to get worse. >> let me ask you this. is it necessary for governors of states that don't have big population centers like new york, chicago, los angeles, miami, atlanta, do those places need to go on the same lock downs we are experiencing in new york city, even though it is not called a lockdown. do you need to put drastic measures in places where there aren't as many people? >> we've seen spread in all 50 states. that indicates those states are not immune, just like no other

place is as well. as far as lockdown, i don't think is the right term to use for it. we're talking about shutdown of all nonessential services, being a waiter myself in college, depending on tips every night, i know what that means. we have to have federal help to those people immediately. the longer this goes on without uniform social distancing across the nation and mandated to do so, we're going to keep seeing scenes like beaches in florida packed with people. we wish everyone would do the right thing, but that's just not happening. >> when do you think we're going to see whether any of this is working? if we all get together, say we're all staying home, not going to the beach, pictures out of d.c., go see the cherry blossoms blooming, going to stay away from each other at the supermarket, only go to the market when absolutely necessary, how long before or what is the milestone we need to see in order to believe we can come out again? >> with the absence of testing, hard to say with data wise.

from historic precedent, from respiratory disease, ebola, other epidemics, we tried to do the same thing, you should see results within a week and more so immediately, definitely by 14 to 15 days, should see significant decrease in number of reported cases. that's assuming that we have tests in place. >> congressman meeks, new york city now the epicenter according to mayor bill de blasio, are we getting what we need? >> no. we need substantially more equipment. i mean, the mayor at the same time said we need over 3 million masks, needs 50 million surgical masks, need 15,000 ventilators. 25 million face masks, surgical gowns, and cover all and gloves. there's a lot more we need. i know the senate is currently working on the third phase of

the stimulus package, but we need more so we can deal with the medical necessities that the hospitals have. >> on the subject of tests, the president, dr. fauci addressed difficulty of meeltiting demandr the tests. let's listen to what they said. >> there are americans that say they have symptoms and can't get tests. what do you say to the americans -- >> i get the same calls that many of you get that someone goes into a place who has a symptom and wants to get a test and for one reason or other, multiple logistic, technical, what have you, they can't get it. that is a reality that is happening now. is it the same as it was a few weeks ago, absolutely not. >> so he is saying it is getting better when it comes to tests. we heard from the governor of new jersey a couple hours ago saying drive through testing was a success today, got 600 people

tested there, they're opening more sites. when it comes to what hospitals need now, be it gowns, masks, ventilators, personal protective equipment, is hearing them talk about tests only something of a consolation prize now, congressman meeks? >> yes. i mean, i check with my hospitals on a daily basis. i have about four hospitals i know my constituents utilize. and when i talk to the heads of hospitals, they are crying for the items that they need. they are short a number of items which some i just articulated. they're concerned about the number of beds that they have. they're concerned about making sure they're able to take care of the increasing number of individuals who once tested have been found positive and may need hospitalization. so we've got to be prepared in advance, not wait until the devastation takes place but

we've got to be prepared. one of the reasons we are where we need now, we started out too late. so we cannot be too late getting the hospitals what they need because if you see the trends, the trends are rising. so we've got to be prepared for that in advance. so i know our governor and the state of new york is trying to do the opposite of what the president did in preparing the state for crisis that is escalating, not trying to hide it, say this is something that will go away, he is saying this will be worse before it gets better and we've got to be prepared for it. >> doctor fair, is there a way to catch up if we all practice social distancing, will there be relief for hospitals if that happens? >> if we all start practicing social distancing right now, and i mean uniformly across the nation. even if you talk about stopping all commercial, nonessential activities, say california and new york, people are coming from

new jersey that are not doing the same, then it is not going to work. it is essential we do it all at the same time. we have no choice but to catch up on this. you talk about banks being too big to fail, we reacted immediately when that happened. the american people are ftoo bi to fail. if china is reaching out, offering help and the manufacturing sector is coming back online, we should be placing orders for the n 95 mask and protective equipment that front line health care workers need desperately. >> not antagonize them, calling it the chinese virus. >> that would be a good start. >> thank you very much. and thank you congressman meeks. appreciate it. stay safe. despite akt despite actions taken, the president said a national lockdown isn't necessary. >> governor cuomo has done in new york, is there any consideration to a national lockdown to keep people in their

homes? >> i don't think so. essentially you've done that in california, done that in new york. those are two hot beds, probably the two hottest of them all in terms of hot spots. i don't think so because you go to the midwest and other locations and they're watching it on television, but they don't have the same problems, don't have by any means the same problem. >> joined by the governor of kansas, laura kelly. thank you very much. is it not a problem in the midwest? >> well, it is a problem of a different scale because of our population but we are seeing increase in the number of positive tests on a daily basis. i think we had ten more today. half of our positive tests are located in one of our more populous areas, bordering kansas city, missouri. we have taken some actions in

anticipation of making social distancing happen. as you know we closed down our school buildings and will reopen the education process in a couple of weeks, but we won't be bringing kids necessarily back into the buildings themselves. we're going to do it all by distance learning or academics to go. i ordered crowds more than 50 are not getting together. we're sending state employees that are not absolutely essential will be working from home or at home on administrative leave for the next two weeks. so we are taking steps to lockdown the number of folks who are wandering around, in and out of stores, making contact with one another. >> you have 45 cases of coronavirus reported in your state. are you getting enough testing?

are you fearful that number is higher or are you confident that's the number of people that have it in the state? >> well, we're doing the testing that we have the capability of doing. i fully expect when we get more test kits and are doing more testing we will see an increase in the number of positives. we have had a little bit of a difficulty getting the tests in. we just received a shipment. it is enough to get us through the weekend but then we're going to need more, a lot more. >> i don't know if you heard the conversation that was happening with dr. joseph fair but he was saying this is not something we're going to be able to stop unless everybody acts together in a uniform way. the president is not mandating anything across the board for states but calling on governors to get together and enact the same measures. if it is not a lockdown but social distancing rules, everyone has to do it to flatten

the curve. because if one place gets it, it will spill over to everything else. do you agree with that or are there conversations being had amongst governors to figure out how to do this, if it is not on a federal scale with cooperation amongst all 50 governors? >> well, the approach we have taken here in kansas is really very closely following the guidelines that cdc has come out with, that's how we establish the no more than 50 assembly, why we shut down the school buildings, because we do want to adhere to those guidelines, and we're looking towards the cdc to give us those. >> you look to the federal government still. >> and if there are some things kansas specific, we are acting on our own, autonomously. when it comes to establishing a lockdown, we're addressing it,

what we're seeing here in kansas, but if the cdc issued guidelines to require it, we would follow those guidelines. >> hope your cases don't rise that much more. thank you, governor laura kelly. appreciate it. coming up, hospitals struggle to get supplies as they fight the coronavirus. american medical association is calling on the white house to do more. dr. patrice harris, president of the ama, joins me next. plus, the paenndemic presidency attacking the press, presenting half baked ideas as if they're concrete plans. got much more. stay with us. concrete plans got much me.or stay with us tv sports announ: five seconds left. oh ho! yeah, that's my man there. tv sports announcer: time out. let's go to a commercial. nooooooo! not another commercial! when you bundle your home, auto and life insurance with allstate you could save 25%. in fact, the more you bundle the more you can save. put the other game on if it's important to you allstate can protect it. ...home auto and life insurance you could save 25%.

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welcome back. with the surging number of coronavirus cases, health care workers are in test pradesperatf equipment. it forced many health care

professionals to improvise. a new york city doctor told the atlantic it is like going to war with a butter knife. they have been making protective gear from office supplies and other materials. they made a public plea for donations of masks from construction companies and others. yesterday, president trump said there was no immediate plan to address medical equipment shortages by activating the defense production act. today, the president said something different. >> you just said that you haven't had to require companies to up their production of medical supplies, but you said last night you invoked the d/b/a. >> when we need something, we order something. >> the trump administration is often confusing and rosy outlook ignores the reality on the ground. health care workers have taken to social media to plead for more personal protective

equipment. in a statement today, the american medical association wrote we urge leaders to pull every lever at their disposal to ramp up test kit availability and to equip the physicians and health care work force. dr. harris, thank you so much. you're calling on the president to get you the supplies you need. >> yes. and thank you for having me tonight. yes, physicians and other health care workers are on the front lines in dealing with the covid-19 paen covid-19 pandemic, and we're facing dire shortages of protective equipment, supplies needed to do tests, test kits, and the chemical agents. as you said, it is absolutely unacceptable that physicians are reusing, cleaning masks they used all day. it is unacceptable we are having

health care staff making protective equipment. so we really are calling on the government to have it all hands on deck approach, a manhattan type project. the masks on faces, gowns on bodies of physicians and other health care workers in this country. >> do you understand what the president is doing now, do you understand his mixed messages? >> here's what we need to know. it's about results. we appreciate everyone doing all that they can but the ama will continue to raise the alarms until we see the results, until we see masks in hospitals, on the faces of physicians and other health care workers, until we have the ability to do all of the tests that we need to do whatever we can to flatten the curve. you heard that before.

of this pandemic. >> given that you're asking for this over and over, there are nurses and doctors pleading on social media, the president is being asked about this in briefings every day, dr. fauci gets calls about it. i wontdder if the president understands the urgency, the administration understands the urgency of what is needed and happening now at hospitals across america. >> well, i'm not sure but that's why you will hear us say over and over again about the need for this, and over and over again to call for all hands on deck approach, and we will not stop until results are available. >> yesterday as congress announced new cash injection into the economy, nbc news reported there's still no direct funding to hospitals for personal protective equipment and medical infrastructure, despite the past two legislative packages. the american hospital association, american medical

association, and american nurses association in a letter to congress requested direct cash infusions, writing congress should allocate $100 billion to front line health care personnel and providers and direct the federal agencies to begin to in fuse those funds immediately. so this is a plea coming from across health care organizations to the federal government. give us the money we need. if you get that money, what are you going to do with it? >> i would tell you we did along with colleagues at aha, ana, called for $100 billion, and that would go for ppe, for the testing. that would also go perhaps to practices. many folks don't realize, physicians in small and medium sized practices are small businesses, as they ramp down appropriately as we social distance, there will be consequences there.

we also need funding for telehealth services, again as we see fewer folks in our offices, there's great opportunity for telehealth, so for these and other reasons, again, small business loans, direct grants perhaps, we have asked as you said for $100 billion to aid us, to make sure that we can keep practices open, to make sure hospitals have the equipment they need and nurses and doctors again get equipped to address the epidemic. we go into this as health professionals, we accept a certain degree of risk, but there should be an all hands on deck approach to mitigate and minimize any risk as we doctors, nurses, other health professions are on the front lines of the pandemic. >> what's happening in italy is there are doctors treating the sick but becoming infected themselves. doctors and nurses becoming

patients, finding themselves in desperate need of people, doctors, to help treat patients that they're getting. do we have enough doctors in this country to meet the demand, patient demand we're going to see those who have fallen ill to covid-19? >> certainly in some areas there is a baseline shortage of physicians and the ama has been raising that, doing what we can to encourage our ability to train more physicians in this country, but as you say right now we have to be prepared for increased cases and for a surge that may happen, and any physician, any nurse, any other health professional that is ill that cannot treat a patient because they tested positive results in fewer physicians and results in work force issues. again, i hate, actually, i don't hate to, i am happy to continue

to sound the alarm that we need to do whatever we can to reduce the risk, reduce risk of physicians and nurses becoming infected and we start with making sure that there's adequate ppe. another suggestion that we have made, we should be tracking the supplies. we need to know who has what and who has the greatest need. so we also called on the administration to consider some sort of national tracking system so we can keep tabs and make sure we get equipment and testing supplies to the areas that need it most. >> very quickly, dod will prodsk 2,000 ventilators, part of the dod stockpile. is that enough? >> that will not be enough. certainly we need everyone to do whatever they can, but we really need to look at the supply chain, manufacture and

distribution. that will not be enough, we will take that, but that's not nearly enough which is again why we called on the administration to have a marshall plan, manhattan, whatever analogy, all hands on deck to get ventilators. we haven't talked about that. we need to have enough ventilators. we need to have everyone engaged in addressing all of these equipment needs. >> thank you, dr. patrice harris. we appreciate it. up next, how is president trump handling the crisis. so far his response is full of inaccurate, misleading statements. attacks on the media, and blaming his predecessor. back after this. ing his predece. back after this. ♪ oh, oh, oh, ozempic®! ♪

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welcome back. as president trump attempts to explain what the administration is doing to deal with the pae d pandemic, the remarks aren't reality. a hospital ship that can't yet sail, a drug not approved for coronavirus, a windfall of masks that's not due until next year. at the white house, dr. anthony fauci threw cold water on one of the president's pronouncements, anti-malaria drug he touted as a potential treatment. fauci said any evidence of its effectiveness is only anecdotal. my colleague, peter alexander,

asked the president about his many inaccurate statements and empty promises, then followed up with a simple question. >> is it possible that your impulse to put a positive spin on things may be giving americans a false sense of hope. >> no, i don't think so. i think that. >> not yet approved drug. >> such a lovely question. look, it may work, it may not work, and i agree with the doctor, what he said. may work, may not work. i feel good about it. that's all it is. just a feeling, you know. smart guy. >> you said americans were scared. nearly 200 dead, 14,000 who are sick, millions as you witness who are scared now. what do you say to americans watching you right now who are scared? >> i say that you're a terrible reporter, that's what i say. i think that's a very nasty question, and a very bad signal you're putting out to the american people.

>> i am joined by congressman shawn patrick maloney, jonathan lemire, reporter for the associated press. the president instead of answering the question lashed out at peter alexander when he asked vice president pence the same question, he responded directly, told the american people not to be scared. >> that's right. he said stay vigilant but don't be afraid, words to that effect, which is different message than the president gave. we've seen sort of a deterioration of the president's tone and approach as the week has gone on. but recall, some in the media praised his tone monday, tuesday, suggested he made a change, was taking things more seriously, more somber about how things had gone. and we have seen that slowly slip away. today, he was downright combative with the media. and it is one thing to spar with press, he does that often, that's part of his brand. it is different when he gives misinformation, where he is not

giving the american public who are home, frightened what happens next. day to day routine completely up ended. when he is giving false information, false hope, dr. fauci had to direct him on potential effective nness of drs to combat the virus. more than that, he overpromised on a number of parts of the response. when asked about that, he didn't want to hear it. it is clear from media, and our reporting, he doesn't want to hear from aides when they don't deliver good news, when they have to break it to him this is going to be a challenge, going to be for a long time, he doesn't want to hear it. that was evident today. that's one thing in a situation room meeting to snap at an aide, different to snap at a reporter in front of the public when they're looking for you to be calm, reassuring. >> there's a difference talking politics, partisanship, not agreeing with the president on policy, not agreeing with his politics, but congressman, this is a crisis that we're in. now the conversation has to go

to what's happening with the leadership, and is this the most effective leadership we can have in the midst of an event that nobody in america has ever experienced before, and when millions of americans, millions are not just worried about their health, worried about paychecks, whether they can feed themselves or families or stay in their homes in the coming weeks and months if this lasts that long. >> right. i'm talking to you from a state that has almost half the corona cases in the united states, new york city itself has about a third. the proof is going to be when enough supplies show up to hospitals in this state and in new york city, when there are enough masks, enough gounls, enough protective equipment. when we have taken steps necessary to hospitalize all the people that will need care. those are actions that right now depend on whether the president knows what he's doing, and whether he is's listening to risks and problems, and is asking what's in the way, what's

missing, how do we get this done. all due respect, i don't care what he says to reporters, i don't care what he says to puff his own reputation, the truth will come out in the end. but what matters now is rushing supplies and materials to people on the front lines, our health care workers, who need to be kept safe, we need to be sure that vulnerable people that show up in real need can get a ventilator and a hospital bed, and what we do right now will determine that. and that's where the focus has to be. >> do you have evidence that that is happening? yesterday he said he wasn't a shipping clerk for the rest of the country, told governors to deal with it themselves. he's signed the defense production act but has so far not used it, it is not clear what exactly is happening. he gave contrary statements on that today. what can you see is happening now, congressman, is he doing anything that would make this response better?

>> it's not enough. it is not enough. if you listen to the mayor of new york, recently as an hour ago, he laid out pretty clearly what the gap is. he has not seen that action from the federal government. as governor of new york, i speak to him regularly. he will tell you we are not going to be able to house in appropriate hospital facilities with the right equipment needed to save lives. all of the people that may yet fall seriously ill with coronavirus. what the president needs to do, he needs to put everything else aside, let people with the capacity, authorities, resources to do that get the job done, needs to stop making excuses, take responsibility for it, and when he sends the signal from the top, people around him will understand what matters is the result, not the praise heaped on him, not the way it will look in the media, but what happens on the ground. we're talking about people's lives. this is not a game, it is not

some poll, not a political question to be kicked around on cable news, this is about what shows up in terms of supplies and hospital capacity in places like new york. and it is not happening fast enough. >> we were talking about deflecting blame. the president in office over three years wrapped up the press conference blaming previous administrations for his slow response to the pandemic. >> for the hundredth time, i, this administration inherited an obsolete, broken old system that wasn't meant for this. we inherited a broken, old frankly a terrible system. we fixed it. and we've done a great job. and we haven't been given the credit we deserve. >> compare to new york governor cuomo's explanation of the decision to shut down his entire state to curb the pandemic. >> just so we're all clear, this is a statewide order.

it is not what your county executive is to gdoing or your mayor, not what anyone else but me is doing. and i accept full responsibility. if someone is unhappy, somebody wants to blame someone or complain about someone, blame me. >> the president said he inherited a bad system, but jonathan, he fired the pandemic response team in 2018. >> that's right. i wrote a story today contrasting the approaches between governor cuomo and president trump. from day one of the administration, not just on this crisis, the president doesn't take responsibility very often, and he tries to blame his predecessor for most things, even when it is a complete stretch. you're right. there were tabletop exercises his administration conducted, he could have been prepared for this, they weren't. he fired that team as you said. heard a week and a half ago in the rose garden, he was asked if

he shared any blame, took on any personal responsibility for lack of testing americans have for the disease, which mind you is still an issue, and he said no. now he is going to be judged whether he can get ventilators, masks, other things to the hospitals that are about to be overrun with patients. >> it is the president's job to act and get supplies and equipment, make it easier to get supplies and equipment to hospitals across the country and to states that need it, also the president's responsibility to lead and calm people's nerves in a time of crisis. and that's not political, that's just the way things work. thank you, congressman shawn patrick maloney and jonathan lemire on the way things should work. members of congress accused of dumping stock before the outbreak while publicly down playing the threat. we're back after this. reat we're back after this. as a caricature artist,

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without asking your doctor about xeljanz xr. the good news, the consumer is strong, jobs are growing, our president has done a fantastic job. >> welcome back. that was senator from georgia, publicly down playing risks of coronavirus, especially on the economy. what we did not know at the time is that she and other senators had unloaded millions of dollars in stock. just six days before richard burr sold between 600,000 and $1.7 million worth of stock, he

cowroet an op-ed that said the united states is better prepared than ever before to face emerging public health threats like the coronavirus. while senator burr's february 7th op-ed made it last month we warned a group to prepare for dire economic and society l effects from the virus according to a secret recording obtained by npr. for more, i'm joined by robert who covers money and politics for pro publica and eugene robinson. i do want to start with you, robert. the trades in question don't smell good to put it mildly. are they illegal? >> so it is certainly illegal for members of congress to partake in insider trading proving that, is very difficult and that's why it's so fair to see these kinds of cases.

i can tell you that i looked at hundreds, probably thousands of these forms as part of miy job s an investigation tove reporter looked at this and i was struck. it was 33 separate transactions in one day, all of them sales, no purchases and the total dollar amount was whopping. it was up to $1.7 million, and senator burr is wealthy compared to most americans but as far as, you know, compared to other members of congress, he's not. this is a significant fraction of his net worth. >> you know, his office today released a statement or maybe yesterday night released a statement saying that he made all these trades before the market started to fluctuate. does that mean they're okay? >> so that was sort of an odd comment, right? usually you get a defense from a spokesperson and that was sort

of the point of the story, right? the point of the story was that he did a massive sell off before the market drop began. so to be honest, i was confused by that defense because it wasn't really a defense. it was sort of proving the case. now, today, senator burr came out and gave a different defense, which was that he used no non-public information, none of the information that he was briefed on as chair of the senate intelligence committee, instead he said he was watching cnbc. >> that's interesting. north carolina's other senator thom tillis tweeted north canadians need an explanation and self-referral to the ethics co committee is appropriate. he said this needs to prove this is not illegal and if he can't do that, he needs to resign and face prosecution. >> yeah, of the four senators

we've mentioned in the intro whose transactions are being looked at, senator burr really sticks out. i mean, you know, number one, the others can make some claim at least that their investments are in a blind trust, they're not managing them at least actively, that -- you know, whether that's, you know, strictly true or not, they can make a pretty credible claim, i think, of not having done what it looks like they might have done but senator burr is a chair of the intelligence committee. he was regularly briefed on the coronavirus situation. he while writing that op ed he made it sound like we were for it. he talked to, you know, big dollar contributor insiders in a private talk, told them it's going to be really bad and he

made these 33 transactions, these 33 sales of stocks that he could have reasonably concluded would crash, would tumble as the situation got worse. i think, you know, he has said that he said he welcomes an investigation by the ethics committee. that certainly should take place and as robert pointed out, insider trading is illegal. that first statements from burr was non-i did it before anybodyw it would crash. that gets you deeper in trouble. and so we'll have to see where this leads. that really smells bad. >> three republicans and one democrat, doesn't look good at the least. thank you robert and eugene robinson. appreciate it. stay safe. up next, saying good-bye to a fear friend, one of the more

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before we go tonight, i want to say good-bye to a field, larry was a field tech, the guy with the 20-pound sound pack around his waist miking us up so you could hear everything we're saying. in my eight years at msnbc and nbc i worked with him more than

any crew guy. when you're living on the road, your co-workers become family. larry was my family. my big brother, though he'd probably laugh at me for saying that. i'm old enough to be your dad, kid. i wish i had had a singular story to sum up how great he was but all i can think of now are the little details, the orange if i was hungry, the stiff arm if i was in trouble, the chair if we were on a stakeout. in 2016 camped outside of trump tower, those details were daily and the chair was often a bunch of camera cases stacked up on top of each other. larry was never stingy with a smile. he was a big bear of a man with a big bear of a heart and that might sound cliche but coming from a girl with bear as her middle name, there is no higher compliment. larry had under lying health issues, covid-19 exploited those and stole him away from us way too soon. he's survived by his wife, two

sons and hundreds of nbc colleagues who are now worse off without him. thanks for being with us tonight. "all in" with chris hayes starts now. good evening from new york. i'm chris hayes. the country faces three crisis right now, all related. the first of course is the public health crisis caused by the coronavirus pandemic. the second is the economic crisis caused by efforts to battle the first crisis with social distancing and mass la lockdowns. the third is a leadership crisis caused by a person running the federal government who is completely incapable of dispatching duties. the white house's and president's responses have been in disaster. we are the international lagger in testing. we do not have the preparations for this despite the government running simulations that warned exactly precisely of the shortages we now face and despite the