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york. more than 22,000 people across the u.s. have a confirmed case of coronavirus. more than 80 million americans, being told to stay home today. four states have issued storedestore stay-at-home orders and in florida, the sheriff instituted a curfew starting tonight. and vice president pence said he and his wife will be tested for coronavirus after one of his staffers tested positive. the fda has approved the first embassy press coronavirus test that claims to deliver results in 45 minutes. >> what the fda has done in order to get possibly a very successful number, it's not just one or two, a number of therapeutics, medicines that can help people that are already sick, help people not get sick,
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and obviously you know about the vaccine and tony will discuss that a little bit later but the vaccine is moving along. the fda has really moved mountains to get approvals on things that maybe work. we'll find out very soon. it won't take long. >> the race to find more medical supplies and facilities continues. california's governor says the state will be leasing a hospital that previously shut down to be used to treat patients. new york's governors announced that four locations for temporary hospitals have been identified including two convention centers and two college campuses. >> some well-known brands are stepping up. haynes says they are retro fitting some of their factories to produce much-needed medical masks. and apple is going to donate millions of masks to those who need them. sam brock is at a testing location in houston, texas. dr. james hamelin, dr. jody
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gold, a pediatric and adult psychiatrist and dr. roy is a clinical professor and nbc news medical contributor. what's the latest on the situation in texas? >> reporter: there are a couple of things going on simultaneously right now. good evening. one of them is that states like texas that have been lagging a little bit behind in the testing are really trying to ramp up their efforts right now. you see behind me the multiple tents. this represents the very first public coronavirus testing site in all of houston and there's going to be three more coming online. the capacity for this is about 150 people, not as many today simply because of the fact that the weather is horrible, has pushed some of them out. but the resources are becoming available. the other, and this is really important, is that the guidance is starting to evolve and crystallize in a new sort of way. states do not want to be testing people who are asymptomatic at this point. if you come out and have not
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prescreened by phone and prescreened on and they've established your symptoms, you're not going to get inside for a testing. that is so important here at the houston health department because they don't want to be expending resources on people who don't have symptoms that wouldn't test positive at this point or would not change the course of their treatment. the number right now is 304 for a state that is 29 million people. some of the other states similar in size, new york, for example, right now has 10,384 cases. california 1,224 cases. illinois 753, florida 658. the number of cases are exploding. those numbers have been changing on and off over the last couple of hours. we have to go with the latest figures the states have provided. there is no reason a state like texas should have a half to a third of the number of confirmed
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cases as some of these other states. the governor has started to issue executives order and get as much testing as he can, somewhere between 15 and 20,000 tests per week here but right now it been 6,000 for the entire state total. that is a huge point of emphasis as we know people need to get tested, we need to understand the depth and gravity and spread of the coronavirus. that's where things stand in houston. >> dr. hamelin, you heard me talk about the number of confirmed cases yet the truth is we don't really know how many cases there are or how many cases there have been. why is that significant? >> right. when you talk about doing 6,000 tests a week and that being just our current level, we for a long time were far below that just means we are missing most of this. when i see a number as low as
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texas, that's extremely concerning. it tells me we are not finding this and it fails to raise the level of concern that is needed. we're seeing this apparent tsunami in new york, which is really mostly due to the fact that we're just now identifying it and our hospital is being quickly overrun and we're rationing tests and telling sick people to stay home unless they're extremely sick. this is an unprecedented emergency situation that everyone -- we're far behind where we need to be. >> dr. roy -- dr. fauchi said earlier not everyone needs to get tested. take a listen. >> not every single person in the united states needs to get tested. when you go in and get tested, you are consuming personal froktifrok protective equipment, masks and gowns. those are high priority for health care workers taking care of people who have coronavirus disease. >> dr. roy, what do you make of
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that statement? >> so i can't emphasize that enough. if you do not have symptoms, please do not request to get tested. this is a key point because right now the health care workforce is being burden and with cases, with actual covid-19 case cases, in addition to all the other people that are sick and need care, people with heart disease and cancer and kidney and liver disease. right now the existing health care workforce can only concentrate on the people that are actively symptomatic and may be potentially infectious with covid-19. that's a major reason. and the other reason is, remember, if you need to get tested, it means that health care workers are going to be donning full personal protective equipment, masks, gowns and gloves, which, as we all have heard multiple times are in
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short, short supply. >> dr. hamm lyelin, you wrote a story in january about the possibility of not having enough face masks. you said you worried at the time that you were being panicky. what do you think now? >> we are about a month behind what could have been an emergency response to get masks mobilized. that's in addition to simply at our baseline not having enough. we knew for a long time it was clear to epidemiologists and disease modelers there was a high risk of this spreading within the united states to a significant degree and at the same time the administration was telling us everyone's at very low risk, trying to downplay numbers when that was the exact point when we should have been mobilizing every resource. if we had too many masks, we had too many masks. they can wait. they'll get used. it's not like trying to build extra hospitals this is something we could have done. it's clearly going to put health care workers in danger.
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it going to mean that we have to ration care in ways we have not had to do in our lifetimes. >> i think a lot of people here rationed care and that understandably makes them very nervous and there's so much that is happening here that we as individuals cannot control. from your perch as a psychiatrist, as people are dealing with the inevident anxie -- inevitable anxiety, how do we focus on what we can control and can contribute? ? i think that's the point. we have to focus on what we can control and contribute. i think it challenging for people because there's so much chaos outside but at the same time we're asking people to stay home and be idle. it makes complete sense that we're only asking six people at this point to get tests but from psychological perspectives, that creates anxiety for people. y i want to urge people that you don't have to get tests to
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reassure yourself. receiving all these health care workers volunteer, there is so much empathy and altruism that's going on. i think for people living a the ho -- at home being told to sit still, there's a lot of anxiety. the way that empathy and kindness looks at home is to be empathetic by quarantining ourselves, not contributing to the spread and also being kind to each other at home. there's a lot of anxiety in the family and everybody deals with it differently. it's not the time to fight with your kids, with your significant other. take a deep breath. and it important to stay at structure. it important for everyone at home to be exercising. if it appropriate to be outside, get the vitamin d, exercise for 15 minutes. but we do need to have some type of structure. it's a new structure, that means getting up in the morning, meals, exercising and it's a
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time to have family time and not to isolate. we have all these technology plor platforms. you can watch tv together, contact friend and family around the world and i can't stress enough how important it is to stay connected that you reach out to people you haven't talked to for a long time and check in on them. >> dr. roy, the white house says the mortality rate in italy is twice as high among men as it is among women. what are we learning about covid-19 that we did not know even a few weeks ago? >> honestly we're learning something every day. this is a novel coronavirus. that's really key. this is a new virus. we don't really know exactly how it's fanfemanifesting. we is some ideas based on previous coronaviruses, like sars. that's why it's so important to capture data and collect data that other countries are gathering. we live in a world with other people.
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we knew for a long time now how -- what this virus was doing in other countries to other people. so, you know, the fact that we in the united states, the richest country in the world are lacking basic equipment like gloves and gowns, which are actually jeopardizing the health of our doctors and nurses and health care staff is a travesty. so we need to act and learn and get data and apply that data as quickly as possible. >> doctors hamelin, gold and roy, thank you for joining us. >> up next, hundreds of migrants are stick on the mexico side of the border and are particularly vulnerable to coronavirus. we'll may have why coming up. plus, congress is considering sending every american a check to offset part of the economic hit of the pandemic. what if that was the norm in america? what if that was the norm in america? alike and customize your car insurance so you only pay for what you need.
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southern border, a migrant refugee is bracing for what could be a deadly outbreak. more than 1,500 asylum seekers there are particularly vulnerable to the virus. they're exposed to the element and have minimum access to basic hygiene items. with me is helen perry, an acute care nurse practicer with the u.s. army reserves. and barla romeamos. helen, you've raised money. talk to me about the importance of those tasks. >> i think when we're talking about, you know, the population that we're working with, over the course of the last six
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months, over 50% of the patients that we've treated at our clinic have come to us for respiratory symptoms and fever. when you're talking about having a clinical suspicion for covid, they're very high. and mother 20% have gi symptoms. there's a subset of patients presenting primarily with gi symptoms. these individuals have been exposed to extreme conditions for months on end, they're living in tents, have limited access to clean drinking water. their food supply is now being disrupted bus they're predominantly reliant on nonprofits in the united states to help facilitate that and we need these tests. you know, currently mexico reports only 53 confirmed cases and 17 of suspected, and i know at our clinic alone in the last week we have five suspected cases that we can't get testing
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for. so, you know, when we're talking about pandemics and we're talking about contagious diseases like this, this is not a one-man effort. this is a global effort. and we need to be working at this as a team, regardless of borders, regardless of nationalities, we need to be taking a team approach to this. unless we get testing, we're really not going to be able to offer the kind of isolation and care that these patients need. >> you were at these camps just a few weeks ago. what was your impression? >> first i just thi we have to understand why we're even talking about this and it upon for the audience to know what we're seeing at the border right now is a response to the trump administration bringing in mexico policy. over a year ago for more than a year there have been 60,000 asylum seekers stranded at the border. as we speak they are stranded at the border and for months they've been waiting for their
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rights to claim asylum in the united states. that's why we're seeing what we're seeing and seeing these images. when i was there in matamoros, the main question i had as i met these families and children who were sick and saw how inhumane these conditions are, the main question now and then was who is looking out for these people, taking responsibility? certainly the us government is not. as we're talk about this as americans, as we're all dealing with this crisis, let's remember those families, those are mothers, those are children, those are fathers. they're peep that have a right to claim asylum in the united states and if it wasn't for people like helen and her clinic, literally no one else would be taking care of them. >> helen, i hear what paola is saying and at the same time you know people are looking right now at their own lives, they are overwhelmed. there is the humanitarian case for this. what is the public health case
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for why this should matter? >> so, you know, like i said this is not a one-man effort. you know, we cannot find control of a pandemic if we are only, you know, one country is only doing the right thing. so you just got done talking about how texas has an unprecedential unprecedently low number of cases, the same thing is true be o the other side of the border. think about how much a transient goes back and forth across the border between good and services that go back and for the, people who work on both sides of the border. this is a global disease. it does not care whether you are mexican, whether you're american, guatemalan, honduran, salvadoran, it doesn't care. and we need to teak globake glo
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health approaches to this that are sort of regardless of what's happening at the border. we need to be giving everybody the same quality of care. and i think until we do that, we're not going to find control of this. >> helen, thank you so much for joining us. paola, stay with us. congress is getting help for those losing critical income during this pandemic. we'll talk about the package that may come with a few strings attached and when americans could start feeling some relief. could start feeling some relief. value, who does intellichoice rank number one? subaru. and when it comes to safety, who has more twenty twenty i-i-h-s top safety pick plus winning vehicles? more than toyota, honda, and hyundai-combined? subaru. it's easy to love a car you can trust.
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trillion. it's about double the amount on the table just days ago. i'd like to welcome congressman dan kilde of michigan. thank you for joining us. the senate scheduled a vote at 3 p.m. tomorrow, said to be between 1 to $2 trillion. do you think the legislation as it stands now does enough to put money in the hands of americans rather than corporations? >> well, i'm concerned what i've seen from the senate republican pack package, that it does not give to the people who need it the most, people who look very little, the so-called nonfilers. in fact, almost inexplicably, the draft i saw of the legislation gave a much smaller benefit it those individuals with the smallest incomes in our country, those nonfilers who doesn't make enough money even
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to file a tax return. that can't stand. that has to be fixed. it important to point out the most important thing we can do for americans, which also is good for american business, is to make sure that they, number one, have the money that it takes to survive what is going to be a very difficult several months or hopefully only a few months but also have them armed with the resources to create demand in the economy that those companies will depend upon in order to have the ability to stand their businesses back up again. so i think the idea that somehow we have to choose between business and individuals is a false dichotomy. the strongest case for supporting individuals is that they need help to survive and to pay their bills. but let's remember who they're paying their bills to. they're contributing that money to the economy and that's good, especially for small business but ultimately is good for the business community in general. >> congressman, as we were coming on air today, a group of
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doctors, nurses and hospitals sent president trump a joint letter urging him to use the defense production act to increase medical supplies. for folks at home who may not understand, why is that so critical and why do you think the president is resistant? >> i don't understand why the president's resistant. i signed a letter that was led by my michigan colleague andy levin urging the president to use the defense production act. he said that he was going to trigger the use of that particular act but apparently has yet to make any substantial orders using that authority. this is the sort of thing that the government would have done knowing that this pandemic was coming back in january if we had a pandemic response in place thinking about the steps that we would take. there's a reason we didn't take those steps. number one, the president didn't want to hear these messages from the people around him who were trying to tell him, but he also eliminated the very office that
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would be preparing these steps that now we're trying to catch up and do. now, there's no excuse for the fact that he has not utilized that authority now. he needs to do it now. we need those personal protective -- that personal protective equipment at our hospitals, for our first responder and every day that he wastes not doing it is a day more people are going to get sick and there's no excuse for it. >> congressman, we have talked a lot about how this pandemic is hitting new york city and the tristate area. when you talk to michiganders, what is at the top of mind for your constituents? >> they're afraid. they're afraid. and they have good reason to be afraid. they're afraid of what they don't understand and what they don't know and i think they're partly afraid because they don't see the kind of coordinated effort at the federal level that they should have. but here's the thing, we're going to have plenty of time for criticism. right now our job, my job, all
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my colleagues have to do everything we can to make sure this government and by that this president succeeds, that he does everything he can as fast as he can. we'll hold as much of that criticism as we can for a later moment. we don't have time for that argument. we need the resources and we need them deployed as fast as possible. >> congressman kilde, thanks so. >> let's bring in yamiche alcindor. paola ramos a. there's been a lot of back and forth youall day. where do things stand at this hour? >> the republicans and democrats are looking to work out a deal that looks to be $2 trillion or more aimed at getting the economy some sort of help, including all the might be
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millions of workers impacted by the coronavirus outbreak. the course the president had his daily briefing today and he of course was talking about the fact that he still feels he's doing the best he can and he's really working in this unprecedented situation. of course there are critical questions about how much testing can actually be done. dr. fauci has been a critical voice, made it clear testing is still not at capacity. we still don't know how many ventilators hospitals will be able to get from the federal government. it seems as though washington is trying its best to work together with democrats and republicans still negotiating. >> in just the course of a day, it looks like this bill jumped from $2 trillion to $1 trillion. what got added to make it more expensive? >> democrats and republicans realize this economy will need so much more. you're hearing they need more money for small businesses, more money for hospitals and every day workers and one of the key
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things that has been an interesting thing happening is that the white house and president trump in particular has been pushing for more and more financial direct finance assistance to americans. so the white house and sources that tell me that they want to see more checks go to americans and we've seen some members of congress, especially republican senators saying they don't want to see too many checks go out because they don't know how long this will last. a lot of this is to direct help to individuals and to companies. >> the senate bill includes special benefits to specific industries that will exceed $200 billion. how will the government pay for that? >> it's really unclear as of now. there are so many questions that are completely up in the air. it's hard to talk about this without noting a big part of the reason why so many of these things are unanswered, why we're so unclear how the government will pay for these stipulations in the bill is because of the federal government itself.
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the white house has been so slow and inefficient actually acting when it needed to in order to address this problem. one thing that was really striking to me was "the washington post" report that came out last night saying that u.s. intelligence agencies were warning president trump about an impending pandemic as early as january. at the same time the president was downplaying the risk of the pandemic, saying it wasn't going to be a big deal and the u.s. was well prepared to handle it. it's really striking to look at that report in context of what's happening right now. >> so i want to ask you, the president earlier today had something to say about buy baba. tack take a listen. >> i want the money to be for workers, not buybacks. i'm recommending a buyback exclusion. i can't take a billion dollars of the money and just buy back your stock and increase the value. >> where does this question stand at this hour?
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>> again, it's not really -- it hard to have a concrete answer to these questions because the white house's tone has been changing so much, not just day to day but also hour to hour. also just based on what the president says, it's hard to take him at his word because so much of the talking points he's been putting out there, he's either been changing his mind, putting out misinformation. his main tactic so far has been to claim that the media is overhyping this, to attack reporters who have been covering this accurately, people like yamiche and nbc news's peter alexander saying they're putting out disinformation when the fact is clear the administration is more in damage control mode and the president's main goal right now is to protect himself. >> i want to get your take in general on what's happening on capitol hill and focus in on something that i don't think has gotten enough attention, which is the fact that so many of these materials have not been made available to spanish
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speakers and there is some concern among the latino community that there are people who are simply not being reached and any public health effort that does not reach those folks is not an effective effort. your thoughts? >> of course. if you really think about it, this crisis was really the best example donald trump had to show the american people what this america first approach really meant. this was the best time, the best opportunity he had to show us what make america great again really means yet this entire time he's failed to do exactly that. he's failed to put the american people first. as you just said, it shouldn't surprise us, if you think back and look back at all of the responses, it's always been about blaming others, us versus them, about creating some division. not only did they fail to put these guidelines in spanspanish they took at least four days. they didn't translate these guidelines until thursday. look at what they've done. he spent more time labelling this as the chinese virus rather
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than spending time understanding how we contain this virus. he spent a lot of time trying to close the u.s. border, trying to close the borders instead of trying to understand what's happening with the most vulnerable people inside his borders, deploying i.c.e. agents in new york and in denver. this is the donald trump we've been seeing for three years. is this america first? >> yamiche, i'm going to give you the final word. cloture vote set for 3 p.m. tomorrow. where do you think this goes heading into next week? >> i think we'll see the president signing yet another bill and we'll see negotiations on another bill start right after it. what we're seeing now on capitol hill and in washington is really rolling -- this really rolling group of bills. as soon as they finish writing the next one and finish getting it passed, they're on to getting another one starting.
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this is a crisis that seems like it's going to go months and months and months the president said it might go as long as august. we're seeing washington trying to get its arms around the coronavirus and what people need and what companies might need. every time they pass a bill, they realize they need a new bill because things are even more worse than they thought it was going to be. >> thank you all so much. one of the proposals in congress is to send every american a check. one california city is already experimenting with ubi. i'll talk to the mayor of stockton about how it's going. stockton about how it's going. [sneezes] i see something else... a star... with three points. you're in a... mercedes. yeah, we wish. wish granted. with four models starting under 37 thousand, there could be a mercedes-benz in your very near future at the spring event. lease the a 220 sedan for just $349 a month with credit toward your first month's payment at your local mercedes-benz dealer.
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capitol hill is wrestling today over the details of a stimulus package plan to help jump start the economy in the weighing of the coronavirus pandemic. the goal is to put money directly into the hands of americans. there's been a lot of back and forth over who should callify a -- qualify and how they should be issues. michael tubbs joins me now. they are 13 months into their universal basic income plan. mayor, thank you so much for being with me. again, a lot of back and forth over who should qualify, where the line should be on income. do you believe that that matters and what have you seen in stockton when you put money in the hands of those who need it most? >> well, thanks so much for having me. it 100% matters.
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i think in the current proposal, americans making $40,000 or less, 22 million americans wouldn't qualify for any cash assistance from the federal government. i'm of the opinion if you were in an economic crisis or economic pandemic before this coronavirus crisis, it probably going to be even worse during and after. and those folks we need to make sure they're taken care of. ideally given the need for recurring payments to the american people it should be as universal as possible. i don't think any plan, any proposal that would leave out those who are gig workers, those who are uber drivers, those who are waiters and waitresses, those who are single mothers who are in the 40 k or below bracket. we found you can trust people with mike bloomberg. the folks in our program are actually spending money on things me and you would spend money on, on food, on utilities,
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on helping out folks. they're spending money to deal with emergencies. the biggest thing i've learned from our demonstration is stock done is that in times of crisis, in times of pandemics, in times of emergency or climate ci crisises, it important folks have an income floor. the fact that one in four don't have that before the crisis, we should sthink of doing during te crisis but after so our folks have a foundation which to build upon. >> 13 months into this experiment, what has surprised you most? >> what's been most surprising for me, as a mayor there's no way i'm smart enough to know the ways in which everybody in the program would spend money. i've found people have done amazing things with the money. there's one young man in tomas who used $500 to interview for
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another job because he was a retail worker and he couldn't afford to take time off to interview and risk loses that paycheck but because of the basic income demonstration, he was able to take a day off works are interview and now he's at a job with better hours, better benefits and spending more time with his family. i've been surprised with how much people are struggling in the economy and this is before the coronavirus. folks were able to biden turs f -- buy dentures. the economic pain, the vast majority of americans were one emergency, one economic event away from financial ruin. i think particularly during this crisis we have to really focus in and hone in on the fact that it's a public health issue but it's also going to be an economic issue. we have to make sure folks have
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as we face this pandemic together creatives are finding ways to use their skills to entertain, delight and contribute. with a nationwide shortage of medical supplies, fashion designer christian siriano offered to make masks. together the two created the home cooking podcast which helps answers questions about what to do when you've got nothing but peanut butter and beans. a chef a musician and the host
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of the song explorer pod cast. they both join me now. i'm so excited to have you here and about this podcast. tell me what inspired you to do this as a podcast? >> well, he's my good friend and we've been talking about doing a podcast together for over a year, and i'm always like i don't want to do it but right now we're all trapped at home and under constraint is kind of where i shine and i'm happy to help. i'm happy to serve. so she'll he texted me about a week ago like let's do this and i said okay and within 15 minutes he had set the whole thing, talked with the podcast, apple producing everything and we started going. >> what is the best story that has come out of your producing this podcast so far? >> as simin said, it's only been
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a week but i think we've gotten a lot of great e-mails from strangers and also from friends. it's been really nice to see all the people in our own lives not just sort of people out in the world but people in our immediate circle who were jumping on saying please, please get simin to answer my question because we're all so desperate. a friend of mine sent me a question saying they have four boxes of natures oats cereal and what do you do with that, is there something that can be done with four boxes in. >> yes, i think there are a lot of us who are lucky enough to look through our pantry and have stuff there are wondering what to do with all of it. what is your best counsel in terms of what we can do with what we have? >> i think you have to have a plan. and the nice thing for all of us right now is the thing that normally keeps a lot of people from cooking is we don't have time, you know, because we have
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to commute and all these errands we have to do. but now we're all trapped at home so we have the luxury of time. so we can do things that take a lot of time that often don't actually take a lot of effort like soaking and cooking beans, making rice, slow cooking things like pork and chicken, stuff that can just be done in the background while you're making your day go along. so i think actually having a plan for today and for tomorrow is what's going to make your food, you know -- it's going to make it so that you're not eating the same thing every day which i already have been doing for four days. >> one of the things i've been thinking a lot throughout all of this is how much our consumption habits might be changed by what we're going through now. i wonder if you personally have given any thought how you plan to act on the other side of this in. >> we did our shopping right before the shelter in place
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orders came and really before everything kind of hit the fan. and so now we're look at what we have done understand kind of normal circumstances and looking at it and trying to figure out how we're going to stretch that out for so long. so part of it is just being i hope less wasteful in general and it would be great if that continued not just for this quarantine period but as well as when we get past it. >> the restaurant industry has been hit pretty hard through all of this, i wonder for folks who are home who want to support their local establishment, who want to be of service, what is the best way to support the restaurant industry right now? >> i think the very best way is call your congress person and demand that small businesses like restaurants become part of the stimulus plan and receive federal aid because take out and gift cards and, you know, buying t-shirts are nice gestures, but long-term on the big picture they're not going to be enough
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to save a lot of these businesses. so really getting in touch with your local congress person is the way to save any small businesses in your community. >> i hear you on the fact that so much of this will come down to the federal response. i would like you, though, to talk also a little bit about the decision restaurant owners are facing right now. i'm following a lot of people who are having to make just really difficult choices about what to do when it comes to staffing their restaurant, to keeping it open. the possibility of never being open -- able to open on the other side of this. what are the conversations that people who own restaurants whether it is a mop and pop shop or a big fancy restaurant are having right now in this moment? >> i think a lot of people are trying to figure out how to take care of their really hardworking employees people all the way from dish washers and cooks to servers and managers and people really committed to their work. restaurant employees, you know,
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give up a lot of a normal life to serve their restaurant, to work there, to be part of things. and that sacrifice has -- you know, it's not really being paid back right now. so a lot of people are scaling down. a lot of people are turning as quickly as they can into to-go restaurants, but that doesn't really help the people who are serving you because they're not there to get tips that often, you know, are the majority of their income. so the restaurant where i learned to cook here in berkeley they for the first time in 49 years have closed their doors. they just sent out a big e-mail to the community asking for community donations to really help with keeping employees paid. >> all right samin and thank you both so much. that is all the time i have for this hour. i'll be back tomorrow at 4:00 p.m. eastern. my colleague ali velshi picks up on our continuing coverage at the top of the hour. s up on our continuing coverage at the top of the hour. (burke) at farmers insurance,
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good evening. i'm ali velshi picking up msnbc's continuing coverage of the coronavirus pandemic. thadeath toll has risen to 177 here in the united states. over 23,000 are infected. today the governor issued a stay at home order for the 9 million people in his state. new york, illinois, california have already issued similar directives leavingtr
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