you're not bitter that she went to pab ma? >> i'm happy she went. i know what it meant to her. the peace in her heart of being able to live there. i wouldn't want her to lose that. that's all for this edition of "dateline." i'm natalie morales. thanks for watching. ♪ first up on msnbc, america on lockdown. millions in five states told to mostly stay home, as the number of coronavirus cases keeps rising. not every, single person in the united states needs to get tested. >> a testing crisis. the big question this morning who should get tested? and when do you need to know to get tested? and when it might be too late.

essential businesses, such as grocery stores, gas stations and pharmacies can stay open. everything else must close. >> the ripple effect. the shutdowns across the country creating economic turmoil and heartbreak. >> it was probably the hardest thing i've ever done as a manager. plus, the search for a treatment or a vaccine for that matter. what are the real prospects of any of it happening anytime soon? that story is next as we say good morning. it is a tough morning on this sunday, march 22nd. i'm kendis gibson. >> i'm lindsay riser. let's get you what you need to know on the coronavirus pandemic. there's 24,026 case of coronavirus across all 50 states. the death toll climbing to 297. >> 80 million americans are right now virtually under lockdown today, as states across the country dramatically ramp up restrictions. new jersey becoming the latest to order people to stay home.

>> we must flatten the curve and ensure residents are practicing social distancing. as i've said before, we can no longer maintain a sense of business as usual, during this emergency. and i repeat, just as it is no time to panic but it is time to be smart, proactive, transparent, aggressive, it is also no time for business as usual. >> on capitol hill, bipartisan negotiations resume today, on the third coronavirus aid package, that would include direct payments to taxpayers. the big four congressional leaders, pelosi, mcconnell, schumer and mccarthy, will meet in a few hours. >> as of now, an agreement has yet to be finalized. our committee chairs, the democratic counterparts and president trump's representatives, are making important progress. this is not a political opportunity. this is a national emergency. it's time to come together and

finalize the results of our bipartisan discussions and then close this out. >> we got word overnight that vice president mike pence and his wife, karen, both testing negative for coronavirus. according to the white house, the pences were tested after a staffer there tested positive. nbc's monica allbaugh is at the white house. give us a sense of where things stand with the number of growing cases in the u.s. >> reporter: as cases and deaths continue to rise here, the administration is promising some relief by way of private companies that have pledged to make some of the critical medical equipment that is desperately needed, as we continue to hear from health care workers. companies like hanes and others that have promised to make masks and gowns and all of the things the medical professionals say they need. and listen to how the administration says they're moving forward in hoping to

promise some of this in days, not weeks. take a listen. >> we're working quickly to pass additional legislation that will provide massive relief to small businesses. most excitingly to me is what the fda has done in order to get, possibly, a very successful, number -- not just one or two, a number of therapeutics medicines that can help people, that are already sick. help people not get sick. and obviously, you know about the vaccine. >> testing is expanding rapidly across the united states of america. state-run drive-throughs are expanding across the country. now, more than 195,000 americans and more, who have been symptomatic have been tested. only 19,343 at this moment, have tested positive for the coronavirus. pleased to report, to the president today, that hhs just

placed an order for hundreds of millions of n95 masks that will be being made available to health care providers across the country. >> reporter: on the issue of testing, so many more, you heard the administration said, has been made available. there's a broader message from top officials here, that not everybody should be tested at this point. this is more of an issue of containment at this point and to really reserve the tests for those who need them most desperately. when you're talking about some of the hot spots in california and new york, there's a bit of a different messaging here, instead of trying to expand the number tested. they're trying to tell people with mild symptoms not to use those. >> on the issue of legislation, though, we mentioned in a few hours, you have the top congressional leaders planning to convene to finalize drafting a rescue plan. any idea how close they are

right now? >> they say they are close but not quite there yet. sounds like both groups are still drafting part of this bill. they worked late into the night. we heard about several conversations that involved majority neleader mcconnell, an schumer and the secretary of the treasury. we expect the meetings will continue and a sign they are getting closer is that mcconnell scheduled the first procedural vote on this, which we do expect later this afternoon. nothing final yet. but they hope to have a lot more and will have another briefing also from the white house here later this afternoon. they will update us on all of the legislative progress. >> we hope to get details on what sort of legislation they're working on. monica alba at the white house, where it's dark at 6:00 in the morning. thank you. with more than 10,000 confirmed cases and 43 deaths, new york state is being called the epicenter of the outbreak in

the u.s. >> hours from now, governor cuomo's order to shut down all nonessential businesses will go into effect. >> and hospitals across the state are starting to feel the pressure. right now, officials are scrambling to try to build temporary treatment centers for the influx of patients. >> joining us live from one of the potential sites in new york city, is maura barrett. what are you seeing out there this hour? >> reporter: good morning, kendis and lindsay. it's a little dark here at hudson yards, just across the street from the javits center, that is one of four sites that they're looking for those hospitals. it can hold up to 2,000 patients. that's really needed now. as governor cuomo told us yesterday, they're hospitalizing 15% of positive cases of coronavirus in new york. they're looking at the javits center and two sites and a

convention center. as soon as that happens, hospital equipment can be brought in. in the manhattan area, the new york area, hospitals are running out of beds, masks, supplies and testing materials, like monica was talking about. officials are hammering down on who can be tested. and nbc reviewed letters to area hospitals in new york yesterday, that emphasized that no outpatient testing should be done. it should be done for patients that are currently hospitalized because they are running low on supplies. governor cuomo gave an update of looking at what the future of this testing and cases looks like. take a listen. >> you have to expect that at the end of the day, 40% to 80% of the population is going to be infected. if you look at the 40% to 80%, that means between 7.8 million and 15 million new yorkers will be affected at the end of the day. we're just trying to postpone the end of the day.

>> reporter: cuomo also said they have about 6,000 ventilators that are used for treatment on coronavirus on-hand, they are looking at buying. they need more than 30,000 to tackle that outlook he's previewing there. they are looking to send 1 million masks to new york city and 500,000 to long island. this comes on the heels of the fda approving a new rapid test that could test folks 45 minutes after and get them quarantined quicker. new york is going on pause tonight, a close of 100% of nonessential businesses. that leaves open, grocery stores, farmer's markets, and liquor stores are deemed essential. just yesterday, kendis and lindsay, we saw a stop at jfk, la guardia, and newark airports

because of positive. and amtrak is reducing all of its traffic through the northeast region here, guys. >> the city that never sleeps, going quiet. just within the last 24 hours or so, this weekend, the city had plenty of people out visiting some thousands of bars to make sure that they were complying. and they were. you're looking at chicago right there. the magnificent mile, a little quiet. mandatory stay-at-home order is now in effect for the state of illinois for the next 16 days. everyone is advised not to leave their homes, except for essential needs. >> garrett haake is live in chicago. we're coming off what would be a busy week for that area, st. patrick's day, of course. what are you seeing right now? >> yeah. far from that scene here in chicago, as the city itself has been slowly shutting down over the last couple days. it was interesting listening to

maura. i'm looking a few days ahead in chicago's future. illinois has been a couple of steps behind new york and the coastal states the way they shut down. i don't mean to say they're lagging. but with fewer cases here, about 700, in the state of illinois, most focused in the chicagoland area, they've been trying to act aggressi ivively ahead of the v. that included the stay-at-home order that went into effect at 5:00 yesterday evening. i spent yesterday in the downtown area, see how they're reacting, checking out the grocery stores. something of the nature of the slow walk towards the shutdown, helped keep down the panic buying. there was peopfood on the shelv. people handling this in an orderly fashion. there's individual stress, mental health stress, for people preparing to be in this for the long haul. >> i moved here a year ago. i feel a little socially

isolated. and managing, i have an adult daughter back home. i'm trying to help her through her anxiety and worry about my parents, as well. >> you can hear some of the anxiety in that woman's voice. and once again, today, the weather will make things easier from a public health perspective and harder from a mental health perspective. it's supposed to be cold here in chicago and snow this evening. another thing that will likely keep people off of the streets and in their homes as requested. but to get in the sun and walk around in new york, d.c. and some of the other northeastern cities that are dealing with the shutdown mentality already, guys. >> the true test would be if the weather was nice in chicago. garrett haake in chicago. >> and joining us now, dr. reed caldwell. good morning to you. we heard our correspondent

talking about the need for other facilities, trying to make room for more patients. what's it like in the emergency room right now? >> the emergency rooms are quite busy. the number one concern from the front lines of health care is supplies. specifically protective equipment, such as gowns and masks. not only do we need this to protect our teams and health care workforce, but there's a real safety issue, regarding the availability of standards protective equipment. as all health care workers are parents and spouses and partners and need to remain safe for themselves and family members. >> in the meantime, you had tony fauci, just yesterday, saying not every, single person in the united states needs to get tested. who does need to get tested. >> right now, we're in a phase where we need to base everything on symptomatic care. and what i mean is, it's really important that patients match

their level of care with their level of symptoms. patients with -- people with more mild symptoms need to refer to websites like the doh and cdc. people with moderate symptoms need to go to telehealth resources. and we need the 911 system and emergency system to be available for people who are not mobile and are short of breath and having respiratory distress. >> an nbc oral describes the first phase of the illness as a slow burn. people start with minor physical complaints, like cough, headache, low-grade fever that worsen. and patients have symptoms for a week before getting better or getting really sick. that's alarming. when do you know if you need to get tested? if by the time you're feeling like you do, is it too late? >> if you have symptoms, it's important to stay away from people that are well. do the home isolation.

hunker down and be sick. it's important that anybody -- everyone maintain good nutrition, good hydration and use tylenol to alleviate symptoms. for people that are really having respiratory distress, meaning they cannot breathe, are confused or unable to eat or drink, it's important that those patients seek emergency care. >> you would recommend they go to the e.r.? that would seem dangerous, no? >> if you're having respiratory distress or feel like you can't breathe, confused, feel like you can't eat or drink, the emergency department is the dire correct spot. >> i'm curious about that. one person in my mom's senior center died. two tested positive. others at her church also tested positive. does she quarantine herself and others like her or go to get tested?

>> patients that are -- people that are asymptomatic, it's important that you stay home and do that self-quarantine. at that point, people that are asymptomatic don't need testing. you need to monitor your symptoms. check your temperature and stay home and away from crowds and away from people that are well and/or compromised. >> okay, doctor. yesterd >> yesterday, the fda gave a test that will give results in 45 minutes. will this meet the high demand for tests in the u.s.? >> that is the hope. across the country, i know a number of people have shown a lot of innovation and collaboration to rapidly scale up the ability to test. >> all right, dr. reed caldwell, best to you and all of your colleagues who are working long hours in the e.r. right now. >> thank you. empty restaurants are struggling to stay afloat, with

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welcome back. 3:20 in the morning out there in las vegas. fairly quiet, as you would imagine. that area not necessarily on lockdown. but many of the casinos and hotels are shut down. >> that's right. a live look at new york's times square, where things are shut down, all nonessential businesses, at least. not too many people would be here normally in the morning. but this is unreal, right, kendis? >> it is surreal. this scene from "i am legend" with will smith. it is unbelievable right there. today, congress resumes talks on a bipartisan bill, a stimulus bill. but as many businesses close, some owners are unsure if

they'll get the funding they need to stay afloat. >> yeah. i caught up with a small business owner in new york city yesterday, who gave a little bit of perspective on the kinds of help he wants to see for small businesses and restaurants, in particular. >> for me, as a business owner, it's definitely relief in the short term. i think the governor delaying sales tax, that will help in the short term for the liquidity. but i think you need to give low-interest and no-interest loans to businesses, to get up and running. even after the coronavirus is over, however long it might be, there's going to be a long time before the restaurant industry recovers. >> joining us is sabile mar solasa marsalas. the bill gives $300 billion in loans for small businesses.

it's a loan, not a grant. rent relief would be really helpful. is that something that would happen on a local level, an agreement wean the landlord and the tenant? >> yes. they would appreciate some rent relief. they hopes that governor cuomo will give a measure that will forgive rent for a month. many businesses can't get through july. i spoke to a couple restaurant owners this week. they had to lay off pretty much all of their staff. and one restaurant owner, he owns three italian restaurants in new york city. and he says despite the fact that the restaurants are closed, he still has $150,000 per month in costs that he has to pay. and that includes insurance liabilities and taxes and rent and other costs that you might not anticipate, they have to be paying. because all of the small businesses and restaurants have been mandated to shut their

doors, they're lobbying governor cuomo. they're hoping that washington will do something to help them. >> because the take-out/delivery business is 10% of the total business. maybe they're still making food for people. it's not enough to cover $150,000 in liability? >> that's exactly the case. when i was speaking to restaurant owners, they were saying the same thing. okay, fine. we can get a 10% increase in delivery. but that means we have to keep on our payroll, a couple people to actually deliver the meals and a couple cooks in the kitchen. that doesn't account for the massive costs of actually maintaining the rent for the places. he said despite the fact he had to lay off all of his employees, he still had some health benefits he had to pay for them no matter what, even if they're no longer under his employ. they are desperate at this point. the coronavirus recession, is inevitable. demand has dropped. people are not going to the

restaurant. they're not spending. they're staying at home. and that's having a significant impact on this industry. >> it will have a long-lasting impact on industry. an industry that was hurting before. ga gotham restaurants, closing and planned on closing before the coronavirus. interested to know that you wrote, more than 700,000 unemployed claims were filed this week in 15 states. now, goldman sachs is projecting that the number of unemployed claims could rise to higher than early estimates, possibly up to 2.4 million. what are we expecting to see when those jobs numbers comes for the month of march in just a couple weeks? >> yes. we're seeing an unprecedented meltdown in the u.s. labor market. so many employees have just been let go by their employers. and this is because of the forced closures of many

businesses. some employees were able to work from home. they were lucky enough to have that kind of arrangement with their employers but others couldn't. we saw this week across the country, long lines of people trying to get unemployment claims, on the phone, waiting, delays in new york state. the labor department website crashed a couple times because there was so much demand for people trying to file for unemployment. as you mentioned, kendis, goldman sachs came up with a number they estimate this week, $2.4 million. that's massive. a huge jump from the previous week. >> something after unprecedented meltdown, i need a glimmer of hope. tell me who is hiring? >> that's the good news. there's some companies that need a lot of people because they need to get the goods out, shipped, delivered to those staying at home. among those companies, amazon,

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we're back with breaking news on the coronavirus pandemic. in italy, 793 people died yesterday alone. that's the largest single-day increase there since the crisis began. >> that's staggering.

>> let that sink in. italy's prime minister calling the pandemic the worst crisis since post-world war ii. the death toll is 4,825. >> it's a country of 60 million people. this is like 9/11 scale, every day for the italian people. this is horrible. back in the united states, the number of cases topping 10,000 in new york state. that's almost half the amount of cases in the whole country. new york governor andrew cuomo saying the majority of the cases in the state, are under 50. >> well, young people don't get this disease. you were wrong. you're not superman. and you're not superwoman. you can get this virus. and you can transfer the virus. >> striking a chord yesterday, you are wrong was trending on

twitter. in florida, clearwater beach near tampa, a ghost town. beaches across the state are closed in response to coronavirus, cutting spring break short for many disappointed but many safe students. >> and new jersey is seeing a sharp rise in cases. 442 new patients just yesterday alone. that brings a total there of more than 1,300 people. >> governor phil murphy issuing a state-at-home order for the residents. hundreds tried flocking to the state's first and only drive-through testing site but many were turned away. this new testing site, paramus, had to close, after just a few minutes. what happened? >> reporter: it started with a few hours. then, it stajumped to a few mins on day two. it's capacity and the amount of tests that the state has. it has complete ly overwhelmed

supply. when it comes to paramus, i did a search. and there's hospitals testing and you can go there for testing. when it comes to the public test sites, this is the only one in the entire state, the line was miles long. you can see video right here. people coming out, trying to get in there. priority is going to be given to people who are actually showing symptoms and to new jersey residents in general. when the governor announced this, he said that every week the testing site would have about 2,500 tests. that comes out to about 450 tests a day. so, the first day, they had about 600 tests that they administered, which is probably why they were able to keep the testing site open a little longer. day two, 350 tests and it lasted just 35 minutes before people were turned away. it reopens today at 8:00 a.m. >> you have the state-at-home order that took effect a few

hours after the governor's announcement. any sense of what the feeling is like from many of your fellow new jerseyans? >> wive seen a range of emotions, as many have in their communities. anywhere from people understanding and taking it very seriously, to people saying, no, i don't have to be so serious about it. and we have seen people congregating outside. obviously, they can't congregate in restaurants anymore. i've seen parks closed. yesterday was a marked turn here in the community. people were taking it much more seriously than what i've seen before. local businesses are just gutted by this, especially in the community that i live. there's a push and impact for local business and to support local -- always, despite this crisis and before that, as well. people were always coming out. ever since we've had the restaurants have to fully close down and not be able to accept

people coming inside, we had people come out, do take-out, do delivery. now, they can't do that with the other local businesses that are shut down. so, i know that there's a real sense of people realizing that the spike in cases here in new jersey, it's truly very serious and it's not just something to joke about. i also know -- i want to mention, with the previous testing site, there is plans to open a second testing site on monday. that should offer relief to residents in monmouth county. that will be at the pnc art center. no words on how many kits they will have. >> cori coffin from new jersey. there's been a collaborative effort between the governors of new jersey, new york and connecticut, to keep it locked down. connecticut does not have a state-at-home policy as yet. but i can imagine that will go into effect some time between the next 48 hours because

there's many residents that travel and work between the three states. cori, thanks. go ahead. >> one thing i will mention here. one thing that made it hard-hit for residents. that stay-at-home order means there's no weddings, no funerals, no celebrations in new jersey at this time. i want to throw to the governor quickly. here's what he had to say about all of this yesterday. >> we must flatten the curve and ensure residents are practicing social distancing. as i have said before, we can no longer maintain a sense of business as usual during this emergency. and again, i repeat, just as it is no time to panic, but it is time to be smart, proactive, transparent, aggressive. it is also no time for business as usual. >> reporter: all right. essential businesses will remain open, guys. and unlike italy, outdoor exercise is still allowed here.

a little semblance of life, still. >> cori, good to see you this morning. >> thank you. as the number of coronavirus cases across the country shows no signs of slowing down, officials are sounding the alarm that health care workers face dwindling supplies to protect th themselves on the front lines. >> we are joined by the dean of nyu college of nursing. thank you for being here. walk us through for a second here, what a typical day is like for the doctors and, of course, the nurses who are fighting on the front lines of this pandemic. >> well, one thing i think the doctors, the nurses, pharmacists, respiratory therapists, everybody is all-in. they want to be there to help. and they know that they need to take care of themselves in order to stay healthy to do that. i've been talking with some of my recent alumni from the

college of nursing who are in emergency rooms and elsewhere, and they are, like, this is what you prepared us for. this is what we want to be doing. we want to stay healthy. and we want to have all of the equipment we need to stay healthy so we can continue to care for others. that's why you hear in different situations, problems with, well, we looked in the closet and do we have enough? hospitals, we mentioned, are preparing well ahead. if you look at what we might need in two weeks, particularly in places like new york city, san francisco, other places that have increasing numbers on the curve we talk about, they're, like, do we have enough? and this week, you heard things like cries for, please send us anything you have. all of the schools of nursing, schools of medicine around the country, who have equipment for teaching, in our simulation centers, we've emptied that out. we delivered it all to the hospital. and that's happening around the

country. but that doesn't mean that everything is logistically prepared. i understand the governor in new york says now there's going to be a huge supply of n95 masks. i saw that on the website this morning. around the country, there probably are available equipment. we need more. we probably need a much more federal response to this now. so that we have the supplies we need. probably coming from relationships to other countries. as well as what can we release from our federal public health service commission corps supplies, or the staff we need, as well as the military. >> i found this interesting. you're right there on the front lines, as we mentioned. and president trump, just yesterday, said he has not used the defense production act, to ramp up productions, of masks, the gowns, the stuff that you need. do you think he should?

>> we met with president trump, the dozen or more leading leaders of those organizations that expressed the need for the equipment and the need for it to be distributed appropriately. i think he heard us and met with other leaders, to really emphasize the nurses are the front line. we're the treatments. when you have a nurse at the bedside, with the most sick patients, that nurse is there 24/7. and you need more of us than anyone else because we're with you 24/7. whether or not we start to see a federal effort for this or that, we'll wait and see. that's what we need.

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italy, painting a grim picture of what might lie ahead for the rest of europe and the united states. as of today, italy has more than 53,000 known case on record with more than 4,800 deaths and more than 6,000 people that have recovered. >> the last three days the number of new cases and deaths in italy have been rising steadi steadily, with 793 deaths and 6,000 new cases yesterday. joining us now, christopher dickey with the daily beast. you're joining us from paris. are people fearful about what's happening next door? >> i think they are very fearful now. but not fearful enough. what we're seeing is people keep saying, it's not going to happen here. there's countries in nueurope, like the netherlands, and others, like the united kingdom, not taking this as seriously as it should. it's like a tsunami. you can see what's happening in

italy, sweeping across europe and it will hit the united states very soon. >> striking words right there. the french people, in the meantime, seem slow to embrace a lockdown. are there concerns that france waited too long to enforce it? it probably is too late at this point. >> i think you should pay attention to what the interior minister here, who is in charge of the police, has been saying. he started out a few days ago, talking about, my fellow citizens. by friday, he was calling them imbeciles, for breaking the lockdown and going outside of quarantine, for ignoring the rules. so, what happens, it happened in italy, it's happening here. there was a law passed in the national assembly at dawn this morning, as more as men draconian rules, using the law to force people to do what they've been unwilling to do voluntarily. >> can you compare the responses of the outbreak from italy and france? and do you get the sense that france doesn't want to be italy

and officials are taking the right steps to prevent that? >> i think that france doesn't want to be italy. and so far, so far, it's not. its numbers are still way below italy's. we're talking about fewer than 15,000 cases and fewer than 600 deaths. as we know, these things multiple exponentially. so, everybody, every government, starting with china, is a little bit behind the curve of the virus. question, then, is how severely you can combat the virus by takitake ing draconian measures. it's harder to do that in a european state or the united states. >> it is much harder in the united states. give me a sense. you cover, really -- you're there in paris and france. but you cover the globe. and you've seen the different projections and you see the different trajectory right now. we see italy and it has not peaked, with some nearly 800 deaths within the last 24 hours.

where do you see the united states comparatively, say in ten days? >> i think that france is about ten days behind italy and the united states is about ten days behind france. >> so, we're on that path? >> i think about 20 days from now, the united states will be facing a situation not too different from italy's. now, there are measures that can be taken. let's hope that they work. but if things continue the way they've been going, i think things are going to get very scary, indeed, in the united states. >> they're already scary. christopher dickey in paris for us. thank you. conflicting accounts, confusion about a medical treatment and its effectiveness at treating coronavirus. >> how the president's statements were at odd from the guidance from one of his top health leaders.

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. president trump once again boothing an unproven treatment as a way to combat the coronavirus. >> the top infectious disease expert says much more research is needed on coloroquine the drug used to treat malaria. >> john with the business insider, what are the american people supposed to think when they hear what the president say and dr. fauci saying, no, we need to wait for trials, is the president giving a false sense of hope or is hope what we need right now? >> reporter: i think we all need hope as candace was just saying. it's a scary time in the country. fauci is walking a very fine line between trying to give the public scientific evidence based on you know actual research and not invokeing the president's anger and potentially being side lined. it wouldn't be the first time we

seen a top official pushed out of side lines for angering the president if that did occur. of course, we did not see signs that will happen. fauci has come up and essentially say there is nothing wrong with hoping this will be an effective treatment. but we still need to do the research and make sure it's safe. we don't want people to waste their time taking something that isn't ultimately effective. >> the important thing about this drug and why it's important for research, you have bloomberg reporting right now there were people in nigeria, they had two cases of poisoning themselves with this drug because they were dock it preemptively as a treatment for this. so it's very careful and reason to listen to the medical experts there. in the meantime, though, john, do you have according to a poll taken last week, some 60% of americans say they do not very much or not at all trust president trump's words on the virus. how concerning is information

coming from the president right now? >>. >> reporter: i think it's absolutely a concern. i have spoken with a number of the top public health experts in the country, including people who worked on the ebola response, the obama administration who repeatedly said trump should essentially step aside. one said in an exact quote should stop talking and allow fauci and birx because he is confusing the public on these things. >> thanks for having you. >> thank you for watching. >> we'll be back next weekend, more duz at the top of the hour with alex witt and how elections are held in the u.s. [♪]

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. first up here on msnbc, now it's 80 million people told to stay home. state shutdowns expanded. we'll tell you where. desperate times, desperate measures. the plan for major hospitals in one major city. new questions about vaccines and potential treatments. >> not every single person in the united states