thanks, richard. hello, everyone. i'm alicia menendez. >> i am now considering, we'll

make a decision very quickly, very shortly a quarantine because it's such a hot area of new york, new jersey and connecticut. we'll be announcing that one way or the other fairly soon. >> it's not clear if the president has the authority to quarantine a state or a region. his incoming chief of staff tells nbc news they're looking at all their legal options. right now new york is the epicenter of the pandemic with about 50,000 cases, makes up nearly half of the positive tests in the u.s. but the number of cases nationwide continues to climb. there are now more than 119,000 u.s. cases of coronavirus, the most of any country in the world. more than 1,900 people have died. hospital workers in new york city tell us they're fighting an uphill battle to try to save lives. >> it li's like a war zone. we're in a war with very limited

resources. every time i leave from the shift, i cry. after every shift i cry because of the pain i see. >> they still need ventilatorve. the fda has approved a faster test for the virus that could give doctors a better idea of how the virus is spreading. i'd like to welcome a physician and and annie carney is the white house correspondent for the knockout and alexis is senior editor for "the at atlantic." i want to start with the president floating the possibility of a tristate quarantine. is that under his legal authority to do?

>> that's not clear and andrew cuomo said he wasn't sure he had the legal authority to do so and didn't even understand how it would work. both of governors of new jersey, new york and connecticut said they've all spoken to trump in recent days and this is the first they're hearing of it. it already raises questions about would this be challenged in court if he goes through with it. does he mean limiting people only leaving the states or coming in? it's not clear it would even be effective at this stage. we talked to some scientists today and trying to report on what this would actually mean saying at this stage a news alert like that coming on to your phone if you live in new york would make you possibly leave quicker feeling that some kind of quarantine was coming toward you and -- >> i don't want to spend too much time on this given that we're not clear on whether or not the president even has the authority to do this, but as

someone who is tracking these numbers, would it even make any sense at this point in the game to be suggesting that this is a viable option? >> well, i think you have to look at what other countries have done. other country when is he says other nations, they did shut them off. they shut them off. it's not an ideal solution, it might not work, you can't announce it and send people scattering and then do it but you've got to expect this at some point in the united states. as long as we're going to fight this on a state-by-state basis and not nationally, you're going to have states that turn into hot spots and then what do we do? there's constitutional issues, there's all these operational issues, but i think other countries have been a better guide for what to do with this outbreak than our own. if you look at what they've done through time, this has happened in other places and i would expect it to happen in the u.s., too. >> i want to talk about ventilators specifically because i know that is a big part of the

concern on the part of medical professionals, this from pro publy ka. patients will be on a support and all of a sudden they go on complete respiratory arrest and shut down. >> what we noknow medically is this virus will kind of smolder and people will have some symptoms and they don't even seem like they're short of breath but when they get their blood oxygen measured, it pretty low that just giving oxygen through the nose and over the mouth is not enough. and then in a matter of even hours, the lungs can kind of essentially go into what we're calling acute respiratory distress syndrome, ards, and it's as if the flood gates have been released of informatiinfla

your lungs and it highly unlikely getting of that is putting a tube in your mouth and not only are these ventilators cumbersome, but they take an entire team to operate them. it takes about three or four people to properly manage a ventilator. so we're talking about something that just can't be ordered off a shelf and anybody can operate it. but it is critical to survival and people are not on ventilators for just hours. the average time is days. and we're talking anywhere from 10 to 15 days on a ventilator. >> so to that point, doctor, there has been some discussion of patients needing to share a ventilator. what would that look like and to your knowledge has that been done before? >> yeah. and actually, a colleague of mine kind of pioneered this. i don't want to say that she was

responsible but a colleague of mine in las vegas, nevada kind of introduced the idea after the las vegas shootings where they needed to have kind of a quick trauma-ready solution to putting two patients on one ventilator and if you have two patients with confirmed coronavirus, it's not optimal, it's not at all optimal but it's better than having one person get a ventilator and the other person doesn't. so it's one machine and think of it as a t-tube that actually shares the machine itself between two patients. but this is where we're at. we're talking about fighting around quarantines when the truth is that we've got people in new orleans and detroit and philadelphia who desperately are going to have the same needs that we do and we're being distracted by this insanity at the top. >> there seems to be a disconnect between president trump and governors in terms of

urgency around these ventilators. the president played down the need for event lateoventilators saying he doesn't think new york needs 30 to 40,000. how do you see the standoff playing out? >> he's sort of switched on that and is invoking the defense act. part of this is natural. andrew cuomo has said 30 to 40,000. he's envisions a worst case scenario when he asked for that number. the president has been a little all over the map saying doesn't think that's really necessary and justifying invoking the defense protection act by saying that other countries need ventilators. today he said boris johnson asked for ventilators in the u.k. his latest stance is to command the private companies to start producing ventilators en masse.

>> i want to talk a little bit about testing given that we had news today about the possibility of a test that would take 15 minutes. i want your sense of both how reliable those tests are and if they are reliable, how much of an influence that would have in these overall numbers. >> absolutely. the test that was approved today is based on blood and it actually does in 15 minutes, it can actually measure kind of what's called the pcr or the levels of the rna that are in the person's blood. so we think it's a more accurae way than just doing the national or oral swab. 15 minutes is still amazing where still today in some places when i order a test, it could take three to four days. this could be a game changer. unfortunately we're limited by all those may have chain parts. abbott laboratory is one of the private manufacturers, but they

can only have about 50,000 tests they think ready and the limitation, again, is all the supplies it takes to put together these test kilts ats a tab t -- obtain the samples. >> you have been singularly focused on tracking the number of these cases, tracking how many people have been tested. why is that so critical as we look to get a handle on this virus? >> we just don't know where the virus is. i mean, that's the basics of it. we have numbers that are too small, which has made it difficult for people to make decisions. basically the less testing you have, the more aggressive you have to be with other measures because you can't do targeted measures if you don't know where the virus is. i think the abbott test is great. the only problem according to people i've talked to is the through-put is not very high so you're not going to really see it in hospitals, you'll see it in doctor offices and it will take a while for them to spin

up. we're still looking at a week, two weeks and three weeks where we don't have enough tests. and in places that have begun to tests, we don't have enough results. california has twice as many pend beiing tests as completed . >> thank you so much. annie, i will see you a little bit later in the show. a week ago florida eav's beache were packed. now there's growing concern the state could be the next hot spot for the coronavirus. we'll see how the state is preparing. plus, federal relief is on the way but will the $2 trillion package be enough to restart the economy. we'll talk to a representative of congress about what more they can do after the break. i can save you... lots of money with liberty mutual! we customize your car insurance

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. when it comes to the economic impact of coronavirus, small businesses are among those hardest hit.

giving them a lifeline was a major aim of the $ $2 trillion stimulus bill the president signed on friday. joining me is the representative of florida's 21st district. congresswoman, thanks so much for being with us. i have to ask you right off the top, is this relief package big enough to do what it has to do to help small business owners? >> hi, alicia. the house democrats are working on a fourth supplemental. one of the things i was asking for, this direct payment adults are going to be receiving, they're not receiving only a one-time payment. i was pushing for a six-month payment, $1,200 for adults making less than $75,000 is not going to far enough. i also discussed with the house democrats that we need to make

sure that we provide coverage for treatment of covid-19. many people that don't have insurance or don't have coverage have already told us that they are getting bills in the thousands of dollars for covid-19 treatment. we want to focus on expanding coverage for treatment. another thing that was not included in this package was support for our u.s. postal service. we want to discuss that and l s election security. we are approaching an election in november. we want to make sure people can vote by mail if that's what they choose to do. we don't know how long this pandemic is going to last here in the united states. so that's another point of discussion. >> we're also seeing an increase of cases in florida. the state today issued a mobile alert asking people over the age of 65 to stay home. there are reports there aren't nearly a enough testing kits in florida. how concerned are you about your home state being the next

epicenter? >> for weeks i have been with the governor's office because i knew just seeing what was happening in other areas of the country, we are such a spot for travelers, not only from cruise ships but also we're called the capital of latin america here in miami. people are coming and going from all parts of the world, especially from latin america. we are over 1,100 cases in miami dade county. and this public health alert is -- when i saw that, i landed from d.c. a couple hours ago. we just lost a 40-year-old healthy male in broward county. we lost a 63-year-old nurse at jackson hospital. that doesn't go far enough. the window of opportunity is closing. i have been asking. i sent a letter to the governor over a week ago. i have been asking for strict stay-at-home order. if you drive around miami dade county, you see people are out and about.

again, we can get through this if we take decisive action. we need leadership at the national level also, let me just mention that. but the governor seems to be following whatever the president is saying and it just dangerous. i've had to clean up for a lot of those press conferences, believe it or not, locally. >> this is impacting just absolutely every industry. you signed a letter this week urging the usda to buy more produce from florida farmers a hearing produce is rotting away in the fields of south florida. what does this moment look like for florida's farmers? >> well, they've been telling us that they have lots of produce that are rotting and i have been urging along with my colleagues that local supermarkets purchase local produce. it just unconscionable to me we have local farming here in my district with produce that are rotting, tomatoes, green beans

and other products as well and we're seeing truckloads coming from other areas in the country. i'm urging the usda -- there's a rule where they can enforce local markets to buy local produce, especially in cases of an emergency like we're facing right now. i'm also asking the florida state supermarkets to focus on purchasing local produce. we have it, it's rotting, our farmers need that help. we can't let our farmers behind through this pandemic. >> there of course have been the three packages that have already been passed, one more still under consideration, a fourth package focused specifically on health care. what would you want to see in that package, congresswoman? >> well, let's start with enforcing the national disaster act that the president has said he was going to utilize but he has yet to do that. there's not a comprehensive national strategy on how we're going to be able to provide

medical supplies for our health care workers, our front line workers. we need to ensure that they have the right equipment, they have the ventilators. i saw the press conference where the new york governor was showing his bottle they're going to have to train national guards to use in case they one run out of ventilators. we're the united states of america. we have been known to be leaders in getting us through these type of emergencies we should not be falling behind other countries i realize there's a demand not just here in the united states but globally but the last thing we he'd to see is that governors and individual states are actually now competing against each other trying to get these supplies. so we need to ensure that the next package of funding to provide coverage for ventilators, ppe equipment, i've been seeing some reports locally from some of our nurses and doctors that they see their supplies are already running

out. and let he say this one thing, alicia. we saw 1,100 cases right now in miami dade county that just popped up. a lot of these positive came from commercial labs. this was reported by jackson. it takes five to seven days for these tests to come back. so we're a week hyped whbehind we're going to be seeing here in miami dade county and in florida, the state overall. >> congresswoman, thank you so much. >> thank you, alicia. >> part of the relief package we were just discussing aims to help those americans who have lost their jobs. nearly 3.3 million filed for unemployment for the first time last week according to the u.s. labor department. let's bring in william foster, the vice president of moody's investor service. he's also the former senior adviser for the u.s. treasury office under president obama. eddie glaude is an msnbc

contributor. and annie carney is back with you i want to start with you, william, and get your take where the relief package succeeded and where it failed. >> it succeeded in terms of its size given the restrictions that congress has and it also is relatively well targeted given the need to focus on the most vulnerable segments of the income spectrum right now and those that are most at risk in terms of ability of losing their jobs and focus on unemployment insurance and medical coverage. those are all very good things. the challenge is the sale of this hits the economy is just massive. we've never experienced anything like this, a complete stop effectively of the economic engine. it it's impacting everyone. so no package is going to be big enough to offset that. it's a good starting point at the moment but there's obviously going to be a very painful self

months coming up with unemployment probably doubling from the current level. the hope is we can contain this, get through it and start the recovery. this is a short-term stimulus that hopefully will get us through the next quarter but we'll need more if it persists beyond that. >> eddie, we've heard from a lot of experts about how this is likely to be an uneven recovery with black and latino communities hit perhaps hardest by this. what does that mean for our society, for our politics, if the recovery is uneven and if it affects some communities more than others? >> well, it will reveal, i think, alicia, what we already know and that is that we are a deeply stratified society when it comes to class. we've known that wealth inequality has widened over the last generation. we know that those who are on the margins have fallen deeper

into poverty and to some extent have experienced a kind of precarity. what we're seeing is this virus, this disaster is actually exposing an ongoing disaster. there are 41 million poor people in the united states. 143 million americans are income insecure insecure. they are poor or low income. 52.1% of american children are in poverty. when you think about what that means because we know that poverty and inequality have a multiplier effect. it makes them more susceptible to the virus and makes everyone more susceptible to deadly effects of the virus. what we're seeing are the fault lines of american capitalism. one thing i would like to say in response to your first question is we need to ask ourselves the question is why did we decide to allow unemployment to happen? think about what britain has done. think about what folks have done

in europe. there was an op-ed on "the new york times" op-ed page just a couple of days ago, why are we taking the unemployment route? why can't this big massive bill, right, urge or incentivize businesses not to let their employees go? so part of what i'm thinking is we need in this moment given the contradictions that are part of who we are to be bold in our response because the scale of this crisis requires, i think, a bold and big vision, alicia. >> eddie, given the senate vote, there has been a lot of talk about bipartisanship, about both parties understanding the urgency of this moment. is that likely to continue as we move forward in these recovery efforts? >> i mean, everyone needs the country to get back on track. one thing i've been most aware of is the tension in the white house right now is the president's desire -- he's very

anxious to get to the economic recovery piece of this before completing and making sure to get the virus under control. the tension in the white house isn't even bipartisan yet, it between the health expert and the president looking at the underlying point of his presidency. everything he's running on has been wiped away. we're seeing him chomping at the bit to reopen the country, at least he was last week. and the question here is going to be whether he understands that putting the cart before the horse and reopening the country before the virus has reached its peak could potentially make these economic problems last for longer. >> william, eddie and annie,

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with millions of people staying home, food still needs to get on the table. form workers are at the beginning of the chain responsible for the food we're eating. and they, too, are worried about how their health and livelihood in the midst of this pandemic. let's bring in the organizer and founder of justice for migrant women. monica, talk to me a little bit about farm workers and how they are experiencing this pandemic. >> thanks, alicia. so, you know, there are 2 million to 3 million farm workers in our nation. they are considered essential workers by the federal government. they continue to go to work every single day and in talking

to workers in different parts of the country, there's a lot of concern. there isn't enough information available to them about the coronavirus, how they can protect themselves, they're not getting a lot of information from their employers. they don't feel as though they're getting the protective gear they need to do their jobs and as advocates we're deeply concerned about the health and welfare of the workers as well as their chareildren. now that schools have been closed in different parts of the country, farm worker kids are at home, some are being taken to the fields because parents don't have child care for them where child care is closed down. we want to make sure that the workers have the information about the coronavirus, as well as information about where to go to get help. medical care is not easily accessible to the workers and more than half of farm workers in our country are undocumented. so there's also concern from workers about what it means for them to go to work. what if they get stopped by law

enforcement. will there be immigration enforcement against them? and the stimulus bills have fallen short because not all immigrants are covered with free testing. undocumented immigrants who are picking the food we eat are not going to be eligible for some of the benefits that have come through the stilless bills -- stimulus bills we've seen the last few weeks. i want you to drill down on who has been included and who has not been included. what would it look like to have adequate protections for farm workers in these pieces of legislation? >> certainly. so, you know, some of the risk factors that exist for farm workers is that oftentimes housing is deplorable and so are the working conditions. farm workers often go without hand washing facilities in the field. they still in labor houses and camps that are overcrowded and so some of their requirements that doctors are telling us we need to abide by like social distancing and frequent hand washing is really impossible for

many of these workers, particularly those who are migrating. when you have stimulus packages who do not provide for free covid testing for all people in our country, including those who are immigrants and have different immigration status and those who might be undocumented, that means that the workers are at risk for becoming ill and not knowing that they're ill, there as a huge risk that would be spread to other workers and could spread to other community members in the places where they live and work. these workers are already afraid to go to the doctor to seek medical attention but certainly with the cost related to the care and the testing, it's much more unlikely that they would be interested or willing to go to the doctor because they will be worried about the cost that will come along with getting tested and seeking medical attention. >> in addition to what this means for the workers themselves, for their families, what does it mean for america's food supply that a community we

rely on to help get our food to us is so vulnerable. >> well, i think that everyone who -- all of us as consumers need to be very concerned about this. we as advocates and organizers have many questions about what the spread of covid-19 means to the farm work are community. will people be able to migrate, if people were to become sick in a migrant labor camp and it spread to the camp, what does that mean for the workforce? who will pick and plant the vegetables that we eat every day. farm workers are the center of our food supply. they cannot do their work because they are ill or they have to care for their children because they don't have child care available to them, then there are big questions about who is going to be available to do the labor if they are not available. that reaches all of us because if they can't do their work and we have crops rotting in the field and crops that can't make

it to the supermarkets, that means we as every day people have -- should have deep concerns about whether or not we're going to be able to get the food that we need to eat as well. >> monica, thanks so much. >> thank you. >> up next, opponents of abortion across the country are moving fast to ban the process during the pandemic and why they say it is dangerous trend. good morning, mr. sun. good morning, blair. [ chuckles ] whoo. i'm gonna grow big and strong. yes, you are. i'm gonna get this place all clean. i'll give you a hand. and i'm gonna put lisa on crutches! wait, what? said she's gonna need crutches. she fell pretty hard.

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as the country's health care system struggles to combat the coronavirus outbreak, a growing number of republican officials are calling for suspensions of most abortions in their states during the pandemic. "claiming abortion is a nonessential service that can be postponed so the critical resources can be used to fight the virus. officials in texas, ohio and louisiana have moved to severely restrict or cut off abortion services completely. with me is amy miller, the founder and ceo of whole woman's health and the executive director of planned parenthood. how are people like you affected? >> all of our clinics have been able to remain open and serve

the people who need our services, except for in texas. texas is the only community where we've seen this political interference and really heavy handed trying to stop us providing the essential medical services that we provide. during this time of uncertainty when people people are losing their jobs, it compounds the stress related to an unplanned pregnancy. people need to be able to have access to our services. it not it's not a service we can wait for. our staff, who are really working on the front lines during this pandemic deserve our respect and they deserve our support and they don't deserve this kind of political interference that really prevents them from providing the care that they are ready and willing to provide. >> diana, planned parenthood is suing texas for banning nearly all abortions during the coronavirus pandemic. as that suit progresses, what does this mean for the women of texas? >> we've heard from our health

center staff and doctors, patients are just devastated right now. it's a heart breaking situation. while virus is attacking our country, extreme conservatives are busy attacking reproduction rights and abortion access. we know low-income, hourly, salary people, women of color are already disproportionately impacted and in this moment when many of them are either losing their jobs through the restaurant and hotel industry and many other industries or they're being told they're essential employees and having to move forward our economy by being child care workers or grocery store workers but they can't get the essential health care they need. it's a time sensitive procedure. every day of delay is another barrier that these people face in being able to access their constitutionally protected right. it a global pandemic and our governor is using this as an opportunity to continue to attack preprodureproductive hea

as our state has done for the last two decades. >> if people cannot access this care, where do they go instead? >> so unfortunately, there's sort of a misunderstanding of our governor about what abortion involves. abortion isn't surgery, it's a procedure. and medication abortion, which are well over half of the abortions used in texas is a bill and doesn't use the personal protective equipment that the governor is talking about. there are many medication abortions that would not impact any of the ppe equipment. unfortunately texas is a really big state. so if we cut down abortion access all throughout the state, people are going to have to travel really far. there's a clinic in arkansas, there's a clinic in new mexico, there's other states surrounding us, louisiana, mississippi that

are also impacted. in the pandemic, even considering travel is incredibly stressful for people, not on traveling with an unplanned pregnancy and potentially uncertainty on your income and your job but also there's travel restrictions and a lot of people are really scared to even leave their home. it just is compounding what is already a stressful and challenging time for many people and unnecessarily so. these restrictions are not advancing health and safety. in fact, it's rolling it back. if the governor were to doing in to affirm at health and safety of pregnant people in the state of texas, he should stop the two-visit requirement that requires people to come in twice, first for an ultrasound and wait 24 hours for the procedures. it's exposing our staff to two advice it's and it unnecessary. to reduce those burdens on staff and texans we would be able to

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thousands of new york city restaurants have closed their doors, but one remains open as a food bank. award winning brooklyn restaurant homestead has transformed their kitchen to help their community during this time of need. the owners have turned homestead into a relief center interest over 250,000 restaurant workers who are struggling in new york city. the team prepares and packs hundreds of dinners to go every night and plans to offer this

service for as long as the stay at home order continues. greg and max join me. thank you both for joining us. >> fortunately because of the success of homestead and the restaurant, you know, we have a platform where we can reach out to other chefs around the country, and so i saw other chefs doing this. we reached out and we decided that it was a no-brainer. if we're in a position to be able to help our community then we're going to do it. >> max, as you then are interfacing with members of the community, what are you hearing from them about their greatest needs, their greatest anxieties in this moment? >> this has been absolutely devastating for the hospitality industry, the hardest days of my career. the ground feels like it's moving underneath all of us, and, you know, when we had to layoff our 60 employees, it was just incredibly, incredibly

difficult. people are wondering about their rent, they're wondering about their food, and they're wondering about their money. it's a very, very difficult time for the industry. >> i wonder, then, greg, given that difficulty what do you see as the path forward, the path out of this? >> for right now as max said we have to take it day by day. our intention is to be a stapleobe a lifeline as small as it is for whoever needs it. or if it's safer for the volunteers and the staff and the community to come and pick up more groceries fewer times a week then we'll switch to that. it is -- you know, it's hard -- it's very hard to plan factoring in everyone's safety. we have staff that would love to be here helping, but they would

have to be on a train for 45 minutes. it's a really unique situation. >> it's a very difficult path forward. >> to note to that point the stimulus package, max, that congress passed will allow local restaurants to apply for small business loans and offers over $250 billion towards unemployment insurance for wushlgers that have been laid off. from your vantage point does that seem like a enough? >> for the workers -- for the work force it's a great, great thing. the additional $600 per week, that's going to make sure our people are taken care of for a good stretch. for the uperator operator of thy this amounts to a corporate bail out than it does for a true disaster for small businesses. in the 11th hour there were changes made to this bill that shrunk the benefit in half, a lot more is going to need to be done to make sure our hospitality businesses are able

to reopen. >> if someone is watching this, a restaurant owner who wants to follow in your steed, what advice would you give them? what have you learned in the process of doing this? >> there's no perfect way to do this. we're only in day three. we just wrapped up our third day. we already have a new game plan for next week. we were able to get a guy, billy over at hometown barbecue is going to cook all of our pork and we have a bakery going to make bread. so starting next week we're going to have barbecue and pork and we're going to make all the sides. and, you know, anything is really well appreciated. we're getting a great response, and, you know, if your heart's in the right place, you know, it'll really help a lot of people. >> max, there are so many people who i think right now want to be helpful, and they don't know how. they might be watching this.

they might be inspired by what the two of you have done. what would be your advice to them about how to use what you do have at your disposal in order to help those in your kmurnt? >> anything that can be done for your local restaurant, they're going to be communicating on social channels and we completely support that. there's going to need to be a ground swelling of support for our businesses if they're going to reopen. we employ nearly $250,000 people in the city alone, 850,000 in the state, 13 million in the country and our businesses are very, very vulnerable right now. you know, the cares act was not enough. it was a first step but it's not enough to bring those jobs back and, you know, we need not only our operators to come together, we need our guests. >> max, i want you to just talk a little bit because i do think there are those transition to a take out business, why sf not simple for so many restaurants right now?

>> i mean businesses doing take out and delivery they're doing about 10% of their business, so they're operating an a skel toncrew where they're able to keep a few people working but there's no semblance of normal operation with this delivery and take out. many, many businesses are not doing that for many different reasons, some for safety. but, you know, this is very, very temporary and businesses are going to need a lot of support if they're going to reopen. >> and honestly if i may say those businesses are even choosing now after a week of doing it to not let their staff do that. we have friends of ours that have been trying to do this in the last week. you know, they're choosing not to do it now. >> all right, greg and max, thank you both so much for your time. that is all the time i have for this hour. i'm elycia menendez. i'll be back tomorrow 4:00 p.m.

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