. i'm craig melvin. and i'm natalie morales. and this is "dateline." i'm craig melvin. >> and i'm natalie morales. >> and this is "dateline." it's not a play, isn't it? >> are you sane? >> sane? that's relative. >> guilty, hmm. i wouldn't do anything i felt guilty about. >> you may think you know the charles manson story, but not like this. >> things that police had never seen before. >> sharon tate begged her, please don't kill me. >> he was trying to take advantage of peace and love, flower power.

>> even now, decades later, the world is still fascinated by charles manson and his crimes. we take you inside his world of drugs. >> he would dose them with lsd. >> sex. >> he slept with all those girls. >> and rock 'n' roll. >> they really did listen to the "white" album over and over. >> with new interviews. >> he says, gary, this is your last chance. >> and new details. >> he would always frame his statements. this is what i believe and the girls all believed it. >> the murders. >> these people were brutally butchered. >> the mayhem. >> charlie was acting meaner towards the girls. >> the madman. >> maybe i should have killed 400, 500 people, then i would have felt better. >> he symbolizes the horror that can be possible in this world.

hello and welcome to "dateline." charles manson was a man of small stature and monstrous delusions. the one-time amateur musician believed he would be bigger than the beatles. after that dream was crushed, it was replaced by a chilling fantasy, a nightmarish prophecy placing manson atop the throne as ruler of a post-armageddon world. this is the story of how a career criminal calling himself jesus convinced his young followers to slaughter innocent victims, delivering charles manson the fame he craved. here's keith morrison with the "summer of manson." >> all that remains are ruins. the ramshackle barker ranch is long gone. only the fitful baking death valley wind left now to stir the faded bits, the rusted junk.

the artifacts from another time when this was ground zero for one of the most infamous crimes in history. the hideout of a living personification of evil. >> you got it stuck in your brain that i murdered somebody. >> charles manson. one hot, dry weekend in los angeles, august 1969, a pregnant movie star slaughtered, along with four others in her home, across town a couple butchered in theirs. >> these were brutal crime scenes. things that the police had never seen before. >> reporter: murder so bloody, so ugly, they rewrote history. became a kind of bookmark as an era of optimism ended and a darker time began. >> the '60 came to a close, 1969, and that was the curtain. that was the final curtain. >> who could make sense of it? >> are you sane? >> sane? >> yes. >> that's relative.

>> who even now. >> how do our kids end up doing this kind of incredibly violent crime? how did that happen? >> we'll do our best to answer that question. to get past the myths that have clouded the story of charles manson and with the help of those who witnessed finally explain the chaos, the crimes, the horror. it's a story that begins at a small mill town on the banks of the ohio river, mcmechen, west virginia. where the myth manson spun had its beginning. >> manson had told his own life story, that he was a child nobody wanted. his mother is a career criminal and prostitute. >> but manson lied.

this is jeff gwynn, author of "manson," the man whose research revealed the facts behind the myths. >> manson was raised by a very loving family. his uncle and aunt and his grandmother. these were folks who were very religious. which they of course wanted charlie to go to church, which he hated. but he had an amazing knack to memorize scripture. >> he was fascinated particularly with the book of revelation, which he learned to quote at great length. but he did not learn to be good. >> he constantly stole. he lied. he picked on people. he was fascinated with knives. and nothing you would do to try to discipline him worked. >> finally, manson was sent to reform school. eventually prison. by 32, he had spent half his life locked up. >> he was immediately struck by the pimps. from them, he learned how to control woman who were -- and

this is his quote -- bent but not broken. >> manson also became fascinated with a popular book by dale carnegie called -- >> "how to win friends and influence people." >> this is so strange to hear, that he red dale carnegie. >> not only read dale carnegie, absorbed it. >> that wasn't the only thing manson picked up in prison. another inmate gave him guitar lessons and one day in the prison workshop a radio was blaring the top 40 of 1964. >> he hears a song by the beatles, and so he sets a goal for himself of becoming even better than the beatles and he starts writing songs and performing in prison shows. >> and so, by the time charlie manson was released from prison on parole, his fantasy was very strong. >> he would be signed to a contract, would become world

famous, rich and have all the women and drugs he wanted. >> the fantasy and charles manson, himself, would almost certainly remain anonymous, a complete unknown had it not been for this. san francisco's haight district. where at that very moment in 1967 busloads of kids were arriving to what they thought would be a new world of peace and love. >> there would be hundreds of people sitting on the sidewalk and they'd go grass, acid, speed. >> roger smith was manson's parole officer in san francisco. >> and into that scene walked charlie manson? >> he did. he could somehow identify the ones who could be tricked, coerced, drawn in. >> bent, but not broken. troubled young women like susan atkins. she left home as a teenager and drifted, washed up in the haight. she worked as a topless dancer,

quit and then fell under manson's spell. he nicknamed her sadie. later, leslie van houghten who got into drugs, ran away from home, had an abortion, and then met him. "people" magazine's elaine aridias has written about manson. >> he slept with those girls right away, making a connection with them, and they felt this man gets me. >> he kept adding women to his entourage. and they went with him everywhere. even to meet and flirt with his parole officer, who heard firsthand manson's preaching to his flock. an oddball mix of free love, social commentary and apocalyptic prophecies. >> i found a lot of this stuff pretty silly. but he would always frame his statements, this is what i believe and the girls all believed it. >> the girls hung on every word he spoke, seemed ready to do anything he asked. like when he told them to have

sex with men he wanted to win over. or when he told them he was destined to be bigger than the beatles. >> manson fully intended to become a rock 'n' roll star and didn't think it was going to be very hard. >> the summer of love was over. manson loaded his family, they now numbered about half a dozen, onto a school bus to los angeles. he was a still a long-time criminal with a dream. but not for long. >> a most unlikely pair. a beach boy and charles manson. coming up -- >> dennis was convinced he could make charlie a star. >> and manson's strange hold on his family. >> he dances, he sings, he looks beautiful, he looks happy, and he draws a lot of people. >> when "dateline" continues. confidence, reassurance you're doing what's right,

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♪ los angeles, 1968. the center of the rock 'n' roll universe. here was capital records, the beatles' record company. the sunset strip. and here the producers who could make charles manson a star. he positioned his family out here in the wooded haven of

alternative living called topanga canyon. >> he lived in topanga canyon, it was a burned out house. >> eric carlson was living nearby. in his first tv interview he told us how he got to know manson and his very available young women. >> they would come over to take showers and stuff. >> and stuff, as he said. >> sadie was called sexy sadie and not without cause. >> it wasn't exactly eric's house or shower to offer, mind you. the main occupant and owner of the house in which eric was living was a soft-spoken music teacher named gary hinman. >> he was just generous basically. >> he never charged me any rent whatsoever. >> when some of the manson women were busted for a spree of minor crimes -- >> charlie came over and asked gary if he could help him. he said, what's the bail? >> of course gary hinman, as he generously paid the bail, had no idea how manson would return his favor.

manson and the family moved from topanga to a defunct western movie location called spahn ranch a few miles farther out. manson told another one of his followers, linnette fromm, who was called squeaky, to keep the octogenarian owner happy. so the family in exchange for a few chores got to live on the ranch for free. ♪ and manson? >> he dances, he sings. he looks beautiful. he looks happy. and he draws a lot of people just like people are drawn to little babies. >> they scrounge for food in trash dumpsters. said former family member barbara hoyt. >> it was fun. [ laughter ] you go behind the store they used to throw away some good stuff, good vegetables. you'd find all kinds of treasures out there. >> but the family didn't just live on scavenged vegetables. they stole cash and credit cards

and cars. manson taught them a skill called creepy crawling, entering houses at night without waking the sleeping people inside. and he used his women to advance his dream of becoming famous. >> he sends them out into the parts of los angeles that are known as areas where the rock stars live to find some of them, do what it takes, and get them to take charlie on as sort of their project that they will introduce him to the right people. ♪ >> ridiculous? of course. but then, the most extraordinary thing -- it worked. >> dennis picked up a couple of girls on sunset. they were hitchhiking. >> dennis was dennis wilson of the beach boys. at the time america's answer to the beatles. ray jacobson was a music producer and friend of dennis

wilson's. >> they went to dennis's house, had a good time, played music, all the things they would do. >> manson's system worked like a charm. offering his young women as sexual favors to get what he wanted. before the day was out he and most of the family had moved right into dennis wilson's house. >> dennis used to call me up and say greg, come on down, we're partying, all these girls are here, charlie, you've got to meet charlie the wizard. dennis was convinced he could make charlie a star. >> and so improbable as it seems dennis took manson to his brother brian's studio. that's brian wilson. to record some of his songs. here's manson singing during that session. ♪ restless as the wind ♪ this town is killing me >> but when the other beach boys actually heard that? >> they didn't have a high opinion of the music, or charlie. >> the session fizzled.

but the beach boys did play one of manson's songs on the mike douglas tv show. but dennis rewrote the words and the title. >> oh, charlie was so angry that anybody would dare to change the lyric or anything he said. it was like misquoting him. >> so the beach boys were not the answer to manson's dreams. but there was one more chance. greg jacobson knew a man in los angeles who could snap his fingers and get manson a contract. his name was terry melcher. one of l.a.'s top music producers. and in the late spring of '69 meltser agreed to come to spahn ranch to hear him sing. >> charlie expected somebody to come out with a pen and say now here you have a contract with colombia records. >> but there was to be no contract. because later, terry melcher politely but firmly rejected

charlie manson. >> charlie was really crushed. >> he would not be a rock 'n roll star. he would not be rich and famous. he was a failure, which to manson meant, said his parole officer roger smith. >> charlie was in serious danger of losing the family. he did something that politicians are masterful at. and that is he creates this horrible thing out there. that there's going to be a race war. >> it was a time of racial strife in america. especially in l.a. and manson blended that information somehow with the book of revelation. to prophesy armageddon, a world-ending race war. he called it helter skelter after one of the songs on the beatles" "white album." his followers believed it. but did he? roger smith isn't so sure. >> i think it was basically used

to keep them focused and maybe even divert attention from the fact that he was not doing well, in terms of realizing his dream. >> time to move, he told his family, gather money, cars. get to the desert to wait out the war between the races. where again, the manson story might have disappeared from history, without a ripple or a trace. except -- >> coming up -- a day in the life of the manson family. >> every day, he would gather everyone together and dose them with lsd. >> and the killing begins. when "dateline" continues. there's no place like home. especially when xfinity

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charlie manson had come to los angeles with a plan, to be bigger than the beatles. by the summer of '69, he knew that wasn't going to happen. and that's when manson told his followers they had to ignite something he called helter skelter, an imminent destroying race war, which he named for reasons only he knew after a song on the beatles' white album. >> they were going to go in the desert, stay there 150 years while the black man takes over but then they're going to need him later. and that's when he's going to come out as the master race and be the leader of everyone. >> this sounds ridiculous, of

course. >> it is ridiculous. but combination of drugs, being isolated, he had them all convinced that this was real. >> he was serious about this? >> yeah. he believed it. >> or so he persuaded his followers. he told them he needed complete loyalty and complete control. >> every day, he would gather everyone together and dose them with lsd and he would talk for a while. >> that's when, for his bent but not broken flock, manson portrayed himself as the new jesus, but not a sweet and kindly version of jesus. >> charlie was acting meaner towards the girls. >> and if they failed to follow his directions? >> he'd hit you in the head with a stick. >> he went from good charlie to bad charlie? >> yeah. he really got mean. >> mean and desperate to find the money and cars to take his family to death valley.

where he told them they'd wait out helter skelter. and who had money and cars? his music teacher friend, gary hinman. >> and charlie knew all of that. >> eric carlson was with gary when manson called and made demands. >> he was telling gary it's time for him to join the family because this whole helter-skelter was coming and that he needed to cash out all of his investments and go with the family and go out to the desert. >> gary told manson no. but the man who became used to getting what he wanted persisted. >> he says gary, this is your last chance. if you don't do this, i will not be responsible for the karma you will invoke upon yourself. >> karma, manson style. then he sent a friend of the family named bobby beausoleil along with loyal family members susan atkins and mary bruner to shake down gary.

>> beausoleil beats him up. >> eventually beausoleil calls manson. >> manson comes down. he's wearing a sword and waving it around. charlie actually slices part of hinman's ear off. departs again. >> manson's followers tortured gary hinman for three days until he finally signed over the pink slips for his cars. but then he threatened to call police. >> beausoleil calls manson, what are we going to do? manson says, you know what you have to do. >> beausoleil stabbed gary hinman and then mary bruner and susan atkins finished him with a pillow over his face. gary died because he didn't want to give up his money and the cars? >> yes, but it was equally important he become a part of. >> what, become a part of or we'll kill you? >> the revolution is coming, a lot of people are going to die. >> manson had a term for these

people. piggies. another song from the white album. >> if you want to be one of the piggies, today's pork is tomorrow's bacon. >> on manson's orders, on the wall of gary's house they wrote the words "political piggy" and left a paw print, all in the victim's blood. hoping it would lead the police to suspect black panthers committed the murder. >> the county police come to investigate. it's a murder. but they don't in any way link it to a black revolutionary execution. >> manson's misdirection failed. in less than a week, bobby beausoleil was pulled over driving one of gary hinman's cars, where police found a bloody knife. beausoleil called manson from jail demanding help and saying he hadn't ratted on him yet. jeff gwynn believes manson decided on a plan to spring beausoleil and save his own skin.

>> family members at spahn ranch are talking about what's happened to bobby. he's in prison, what's going to happen? how can we break him out? >> they did hatch a plan so horrible that the name charlie manson would be famous all right. not as a star but as a symbol of evil. >> coming up -- helter skelter, a night of madness and murder. >> sharon tate quite naturally is screaming. she's begging not for her life but for her baby's. susan atkins says, "bitch, i have no sympathy for you." >> when "dateline" continues. find your rhythm.

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but the key to these copycat killings, manson decided, was to find a high-profile victim. >> if it's somebody famous and the newspapers and the tv are making a big deal out of it, then it will work. they'll have to let bobby out. >> free bobby and maybe touch off helter skelter in the bargain by framing the black panthers. august 8th, 1969, late. susan atkins, sexy sadie, dressed in black and headed out of spahn ranch. >> sadie hung out of the car window and yelled with the we're going to kill some [ bleep ] pigs." >> also in the car tex watson, patricia krenwinkel and linda kasabian. their target, whoever lived in the house recently vacated by terry melcher, who months earlier had politely blown off manson's hopes for a record deal. >> whoever's living there now has to be rich and famous. nobody else could afford a house like that.

>> manson had actually been at the house earlier that year looking for terry melcher. he moved out. but manson encountered the current resident, actress sharon tate, the pregnant wife of film director roman polanski. now tex climbed a telephone pole and cut wires to that very same house. they all went over the gate. and just then a young man named steven parent who'd been visiting the property caretaker, was headed out of the driveway. tex confronted him with a knife, then shot him several times. the killing had begun. with kassabian standing guard susan, patricia, and tex went inside the house. polanski was out of the country that night. but his friend wojtek watt kousky was asleep on the couch. tex kicked him. susan atkins went to see who else was there. >> she starts down the hallway, and there's a guest bedroom. and there's a woman sitting up in bed.

it's abigail folger. >> reporter: heiress to the folger's coffee fortune. >> folger assumed this was just some other friend of sharon's and waves to her. and susan atkins gives the little finger wave back, continues down the hall. >> in the bedroom she found sharon tate and jay sebring, a celebrity hairdresser and tate's former boyfriend. she herded them into the living room. anthony demaria is jay sebring's nephew. >> at a certain point watson turned his back and jay charged sxep shot jay as he was coming to him. and then watson and krenwinkel started stabbing and kicking. >> sharon tate quite naturally is screaming. krokowski and folger break out a side door. krenwinkel and watson chase after them. >> soon, everyone was left for dead, except sharon state.

>> she's begging not for her life but for her baby's. susan atkins says, "bitch, i have no sympathy for you" and she's slaughtered. >> then susan atkins wrote the word "pig" in blood on the front door to make sure cops would connect these murders to gary hinman's murder. >> they arrive back at the ranch. charlie mans ons waiting for them. what did you do? tell me about it. and they tell him. and he's furious. from their description, he doesn't think they've left the house appalling enough that it will get the attention they want. >> so, said gwynn, manson himself returned to the house and draped an american flag near sharon tate's body. >> manson with his sense of theater thought that would be the thing that would really, really make everybody gasp and

pay attention. >> a movie actress and four of her friends were murdered and the circumstance were lurid. >> the family was mutilated. >> this i'd rather not discuss. >> but nobody made a link to gary hinman. beausoleil remained in jail. >> charlie was furious. they had screwed up. >> he blamed them? >> very much so. if they had done it right. >> they had to do it again. >> this time i'm going with you to make sure it gets done properly. >> he took his bag of killers on a tour of los angeles, looking for just the right innocent victims. there was a street manson knew, had been to a party there in the los feliz area of l.a. he picked the house next door. no idea who lived there. it was the home of leno and rosemary labianca.

>> charlie says when they're outside the labianca home that he'll go in, check it out. charlie comes back out, gets tex watson. they go in. first they capture leno labianca. he ties labianca up, asks is there anybody else here in my wife's in the bedroom. >> then manson went and gottex watson, susan atkins, patricia krenwinkel, and willslee van how then, who had begged to go with them this time. >> charlie tells them go in there, do what you need to do. and he drives off in the car. >> the labiancas died as brutally as those the night before. bound and blindfolded and gagged. the crime scene created to horrify. >> with blood the killers had scrawled "death to pigs." >> helter skelter, misspelled, had been written in blood on the refrigerator and carved into leno labianca's torso, there was one word, war.

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that week in the summer of '69, too many. one for the beautiful sharon tate. >> many of hollywood's elite turned out for the funeral despite the fact it was billed as a private family affair. >> families watched the shocking news on tv, including the manson family. and follower barbara hoyt. >> i remember being scared by that. >> how did they react to the news? >> they laughed. it didn't bother them at all. >> charlie manson thought he'd hoodwinked people before that they to the the people that killed the ones before and would free bobby beausoleil. >> police today could but speculate whether these two crimes had been done by the same person. >> no one connected them to the hinman case. the plan failed.

bobby beausoleil stayed in jail and if that wasn't frustrating enough for manson, just six days after the labianca murders more than 100 sheriff's deputies descended on the family. >> they decide they're going to have a huge raid on spahn ranch. they're going to arrest everybody in it. >> but, the raid turned out to be good news for charlie manson. because it didn't have anything to do with murder. the warrant was for auto theft. totally unrelated. and even that charge didn't stick. manson uses this as a great example. see how powerful he is? they arrested all of us, but i used my power and they're letting us go. >> the "l.a. times" ran a small story about the car theft raid, along with an article about the tate murders and labianca murders. each story completely separate. but manson was still on edge,

especially after he found out a ranch hand named shorty shea was trying to get the family kicked out of spahn ranch. barbara hoyt remembers what happened next. >> i heard a scream. and i bolted up. >> is there any way to describe what that sounded like? >> just pure horror. >> did you have any idea whether it was a human or an animal -- >> i knew it was shorty. >> you knew it was shorty? >> i recognized the voice. >> this was the one that manson was personally involved in. and shea was sort of hacked to pieces. >> manson decided it was time to get out of l.a. >> maybe he was feeling the heat from that raid. or maybe he wanted an even more remote place to keep his family under his control. >> to him, the whole idea of control is not just having people worshipping you, but having people follow your orders in ways that contradict common sense. >> that is, fleeing an apocalyptic race war, helter

skelter. he moved them out to an old homestead called barker ranch. over 200 miles from los angeles, now a part of death valley national park. yes, death valley. >> during this war, he will lead his family into death valley where there is a bottomless pit in a city underneath the surface. they will go down there and be safe. >> he seriously thought there was something beneath the earth where all of you go and hide. >> mm-hmm. >> and escape the race war. >> mm-hmm. rivers of milk and honey, trees with different kinds of fruit. >> barbara hoyt was loyal to manson until one day she overhead susan atkins gleefully describing the murder of sharon tate and suddenly feared for her own life. >> i knew i had to get out of there.

>> so early one morning, barbara and a friend took a huge risk. >> we walked out. >> you walked out? >> yes, we walked out. >> into the heat of death valley. they walked for miles to the nearest ranch, said barbara. and she eventually reunited with her real family. but the rest of the manson family stayed busy in the desert. >> the family is up to its old tricks. there's cars stolen, different desecration of national monument areas. >> all of which, once again, drew the notice of law enforcement. during two raids in october, they rounded up most of the family. the last to be captured was manson himself, hiding under the bathroom sink. he told authorities his name was manson charles m., aka jesus christ, god. the charges were auto theft and arson. they'd faced similar charges before, had beaten the rap before. but this time something unexpected, completely out of manson's control.

somebody in the family squealed about susan atkins and her role in gary hinman's murder, so atkins was moved from a jail near death valley to los angeles. >> she couldn't stay quiet. she started sharing this incredible and unbelievable story. >> atkins boasted to a fellow inmate named virginia graham about the sharon tate murders. >> she said, you know who did it, don't you? and i looked at her and i said, no, i don't. and her words to me were "well, you're looking at her." >> atkins told virginia graham every hideous detail, mocking one of her victims zblep was screaming help, help, somebody please help me. she said, "and nobody came. and he with killed him." >> virginia told the cops. >> police got the break in the tate case when susan atkins was arrested and tau ed aned an

cellmate about the tate killings. >> four months after the tate and labianca killings charles manson and several of his followers were indicted for murder. he'd come to l.a. seeking fame. he was about to find it. >> coming up -- what if the manson family hadn't been stopped? who might have been next? >> elizabeth taylor? steve mcqueen and frank sinatra. >> when "dateline" continues. protect your pet with the #1 name in flea and tick protection. frontline plus. trusted by vets for nearly 20 years. frontline plus. at walgreens, we understand the speed of life never slows down. that's why we're helping you get the care and attention you deserve even faster. that's our promise. now, you can skip the line with walgreens express, get in and out quickly with 24-hour locations,

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today's a good day. >> i don't have any guilt. i know what i've done. >> it's all a play, isn't it? >> banter from the man about to be tried for one of the most notorious killing sprees in american history. >> i think mr. manson feels he's a product of our society. >> the case went to the late vincent bubugliosi, a young prosecutor at the time. >> i had conversations with manson all the time. i said i'm going to convict you but aufr get a fair friel. >> bugliosi tried to get family members to flip and testify against manson. most stayed ferociously loyal. and some not charged staged demonstrations outside the courthouse, even shaved their heads in a show of solidarity. >> you know, we'd die, we'd do anything for a brother. >> chatty susan atkins was supposed to be a key witness. she had bragged about the killings in jail, then told the

whole story to a grand jury. >> now that you've had a chance to get it off your chest, describe to me how you feel. >> dead. >> dead? what kind of feeling is that? >> but atkins recanted. so bugliosi turned to virginia graham, one of the two fellow jail inmates atkins had confessed to. graham told the jury how atkins giddily described the tate and labianca murders. >> there wasn't a sign of e. morse of anything. in fact, it was almost very boastful. >> and atkins vowed they were just getting started, said graham. they had a plan to murder a-list celebrities. >> it was tom jones, elizabeth taylor, steve mcqueen, and frank sinatra. they were going to skin him alive and make purses out of it and sell it on hollywood boulevard. >> virginia graham's testimony made the front page. one of many headlines in a trial that lasted some seven months.

>> jury, hearing the charges against charles manson and three girl members of his so-called family, brought in its verdict this afternoon. all were found guilty of murder in the first degree. >> mansond several members of the family were sentenced to death for the tate and labianca murders. a careermaking victory for prosecutor vincent bugliosi, who was emphatic that the sentence was richly deserved. >> in view of the incredible brutality of these savage, nightmarish murders, the death penalty unquestionably was the proper verdict in this case. >> but then a little over a year later it all changed. >> the california supreme court ruled today that the death penalty is unconstitutional. >> there would be no gas chamber for manson or any of thinks convicted family members. >> do you believe that there should be a death penalty? >> aren't we all born to die? >> in a gas chamber? >> i believe what i'm told to

believe. don't you? >> because of that california state supreme court ruling, the sentences were reduced to life in prison with the possibility of parole. even more mansfor manson. that touched off a debate that still rages decades later. can people like these be rehabilitated? should they ever be released? >> there are so many reasons why i'm against parole. >> anthony demar yeo has spent most of his adult life fighting parole roehl for the killers of his uncle jay sebring. >> when somebody says i've changed, i've rehabilitated. well, you might have. but your victims are dusty and rotting in a grave. >> over the years manson, tex watson, patricia krenwinkel and susan atkins all had parole hearings. each time they were quickly denied. but leslie van houten seemed to have some hope of being paroled. this was her hearing in 2000. >> it's really hard to live with

murder. >> van houten, who's been a model prisoner, earned two degrees behind bars, runs a self-help group for inmates, has expressed remorse for decades. >> i accept responsibility. i know that what i did is inexcusable. >> van houten has been recommended for parole on multiple occasions, but each time the governor's office overruled the decision. sharon tate's sister debra strongly opposes her release. >> i don't think she deserves it. these people were brutally butchered. there has to be some kind of accountability in this world. there just simply has to be. >> and it doesn't stop when a person is 65? >> no. >> the man behind it all, who wanted so desperately to be famous? after nearly 50 years in prison charles manson had become a shell of his former self, frail and in ill health. one of his friends told us he believed manson was suffering from early stages of dementia.

shortly after his 83rd birthday, in november of 2017, charles mills manson died of natural causes. up until his last day on earth never even a hint of remorse. >> i haven't done anything i'm a ashamed of. guilty. hmm. i wouldn't do anything i felt guilty about. >> manson and his family still seem to occupy some dark corner of our imagination. but, said jeff gwynn, it's time to strip away the mystery and stop burn being the legend of charles manson. >> we can't stop what manson did. if he's notorious, let him be notorious for what he is, this horrible sociopath. >> a small man who used his talents such as they were to become not just a symbol of the loss of innocence or of naivete

but an enduring lesson in how not to be a human being. >> that's all for this edition of "dateline." i'm natalie morales. thanks for watching. i'm craig melvin. >> and i'm natalie morales. >> and this is "dateline." >> you can lose a child without knowing it in a second. it wasn't an if. it was a when are they going to tell us she's not coming home. oh, this is not what was supposed to happen. >> reporter: the note was under her blanket. >> i saw it sticking out, and i grabbed it. >> reporter: their daughter was a runaway. >> i am frantic because i didn't know how to find her. >> reporter: they called police. they searched, and then a jogger found a red shoe and a pool of blood. >> h