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life. and we go about with my dad, our dad, as an angel on one shoulder and our brother as an angel on another shoulder. >> that's all for this edition of "dateline." i'm natalie morales. thanks for watching. first up on msnbc, escalating crisis, as police join efforts to keep people apart. the numbers, this sunday morning, on the rise, as the coronavirus spreads. but there are at least, it appears, good news from new york. plus -- >> they're having problems down in florida. a lot of new yorkers going down. we don't want that. >> the on again/off again possible quarantine. in three states, there's a new
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travel advisory. hiring, firing, furloughing. the different ways many companies, big and small, are dealing with coronavirus. even sea world. and a dramatic scene on a picture-perfect day. it's a sign of the times, next. we say good morning. it is sunday, march 29th. i'm lindsay riser. >> i'm kendis gibson. glad you could be with us on this morning. we are going to start with the breaking news on the pandemic. there's more than 100,000 cases of coronavirus in the united states alone. >> a record 20,000 new infections were reported just yesterday alone. and overnight, the death toll is topping 2,000, doubling in just two days. >> president trump is backing down from comments he made about considering a federally-enforced quarantine of new york, new jersey and connecticut. the new york governor, andrew cuomo, firing back, saying he didn't even have the legal right to do so.
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>> i don't believe that he could be serious, that any federal administration could be serious about a physical lockdown of states or parts of states across this country. i don't believe it's legal. i think it would be economic chaos. i don't think the american people would stand for it. >> overnight, a new travel advisory, impacting more than 21 million americans. the cdc is urging people in new york, new jersey and connecticut, to, quote, refrain from nonessential domestic travel, for 14 days. and that starts immediately. >> monica aan alba is at the wh house. how did this decision come about? >> reporter: a lot of developments over the course of a just few hours. we heard the president float his idea on the way out of the white
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house for norfolk, for that speech seeing off the "uss comfort." he said he would need to talk to the governors of those three critical states in terms of a potential quarantine. it was something that raised a lot of questions how this could be enforced. as you play there from governor cuomo, the other governors of new jersey and connecticut, expressed doubt how it would be able to be put in place. after a few hours, we saw some activity here at the white house. it was a quiet day. it was the first day in a couple of weeks that the task force didn't provide a briefing. instead, they met by phone. by 6:00 p.m., we saw mike pence and dr. deborah bixr. and we saw the president issue that tweet. while the cdc is going to issue travel guidelines, which is advising those people in those states not to leave or travel for a nonessential reason, he
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did say no quarantine would be necessary. you saw there, the vice president also echoed that information, also saying that the cdc would be advising the millions of people in the tristate area not to be leaving their homes. but remember, they're already sort of under this stay-at-home order. it's not too much of a change. it's hitting home the fact how hard the three states have experienced the pandemic and that they expect that to continue for two more weeks, if not longer, guys. >> monica abla, thank you for that report this morning. and new york city, the epicenter of the outbreak in the united states. the numbers are rising. the total number of cases getting closer to 31,000, with 672 deaths. the city reporting 155 deaths just yesterday alone. that, by the way, the highest number in a single day. >> the trajectory is on an upward trend, as this chart
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prepared by the department of health shows. according to the governor of new york, the worst is yet to come. >> cory coffin joins us from new york city. you're outside of mt. sinai hospital, where a nurse died just last week. what is the latest from that scene? >> reporter: good morning to both of you. it is a nightmare scenario for anyone who has a friend or a loved one fighting on the front lines here, at places like mt. sinai west, trying to end this global pandemic. kious kelly told his family he believe he contracted covid-19 at work. he suffered from severe pneumonia. but his family questioned if his death was preventable. they expressed concern over the lack of protection equipment at hospitals across the united states, most especially here in new york. mt. sinai west says they do have
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enough ppe. governor cuomo said they're going to need more stocks very soon. but at the moment, they have a sufficient amount. he did say there's a dire need for ventilators at the moment. he talked about what could happen, especially right here in new york, if we don't flatten the curve. >> flatten the curve, so the apex never happens. god forbid the apex happens. make sure we have as much of the equipment and staff, et cetera, that we would need for that moment. a few updates. they still forecast the apex to be 14 to 21 days. again, that changes on the modeling every time the case load goes up or down a little bit. that affects the calculation on the apex. what do you need at the apex? 140,000 beds, that's hospital beds, dormitory beds, we're working on that every day and we're getting closer and closer
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to that 140,000 number. >> reporter: the first temporary hospital at the javits convention center is set to open tomorrow. that will have 1,000 beds. "usns comfort" is up from norfolk, virginia. that will have 1,000 beds. the skate is scrambling to make sure they have the beds they need. to put this in perspective for the rest of the nation, what people are hearing, the alarm bells that are ringing through the streets here, 911 dispatchers say this is the fourth-straight record day of calls that they have had more calls than they received during 9/11, guys. >> just as busy on 9/11. and i know you heard the sounds, us living in new york city. the cousoundtrack of the city h been the sirens going down the streets. >> cori, the nurse you mentioned, sent a last text to
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his sister, can't talk because i choked and can't breathe. i love you, going back to sleep. a heartbreaking text from that nurse that died of coronavirus. joining us, a pulmonologist from new york city. some of the nurses at the same hospital where the nurse worked, photographed wearing garbage bags over their ppe. how dire is the situation? >> i'm practicing here in long island. we have adequate ppe. we are at highest risk when we're looking after people in the critical care setting. we are the most protected. but i spent 8 hours in the hospital, 12 hours today. every employee i encountered in every setting, was properly dressed, properly gowned and had adequate supplies. we're being very judicious with it. we're not discarding them and putting them away casually when
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we don't need them. we are being very careful with our supplies. but we're properly protected. it's heartbreaking to see the news out of elmhurst. but the story about this nurse who passed away. the health care worker is at incredible risk. i want to echo what the governor is saying. people at home determine how much risk we're facing here. they stay at home so that we can try and take care and control of the sick now. if we do not really severely curtail our activities, i'm not sure how this is going to sustain itself. we do have resources, we do have equipment, but we're under tremendous pressure. >> it's relieving to hear you have enough ppe. do you have enough to change the masks per patient? >> it depends which kind of
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mask. i was fit-tested because i'm going to be around covid infections. and that mask we have to preserve until it is no longer functioning. so, we keep that in a special bag. we use it only when we enter the room. but our leadership is asking us to be extremely judicious about when we go into the room. nowadays the technology is so advanced, all of the data from my patient can be scene in the electronic medical record. when people are gravely ill with severe lung injury, which is what i take care of, we can see a great deal without physically examining the patient. if we have to, we have to and we're properly dressed. but this is not a normal circumstance. i've been in the field of critical care medicine since 1992, until 2007. i just came back on friday because of the need for critical care specialists. i have never seen the level of numbers of people in severe lung
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injury. that means for people at home, on respirators, on high amounts of oxygen, in some cases on ecmo. what is heartening, we're seeing how well our teams are functioning. i salute my nurses, my fellows, my residents, my colleagues, my leaders. i have not seen such dedication ever. and that includes all kinds of major calamities. >> i know you train for situations like this but i was talking with a friend -- >> i'm thinking about -- i was a critical care specialist in london on 7/7, when we had a massive terrorism attack. the effort for this greatly exceeds even that. >> beyond the effort itself, what's the emotional toll for many of the first responders? >> i think -- i mean, i can see the strain in my colleagues who have been in the hospital several weeks already dealing with this. people are very worried about
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our patients. i find it heartbreaking to see the patients. we're not allowing families to be with them. we're not able to allow visitors. they're facing serious illnesses. they see us peering at them through masks. it's hard to hold a patient n m normally, let alone when they're very sick. and i have three personal friends and family members who are infected. i can't even see them because i have responsibilities here. and i absolutely believe physical limitation of our movements, that means nobody comes to my house now. i don't go anywhere now, except for my patients and my house. we all have to do that, if we are going to contain this. one of my residents -- >> dr. ahmed, we'll come back to you in just a moment. stay with us. >> okay. >> we want to get to the next report. stay with us. we'll come right back to you. the city of philadelphia has
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announced 169 new cases. pennsylvania has more than 2,700 cases and nearly three dozen deaths. and the majority of the patients are young. >> we go outside of philadelphia's citizens bank park, home of the phillies. good morning to you. the start of baseball season is postponed. opening day was supposed to be three days ago. why are you there? >> well, i'm a philly girl. i wish i could say i was here for my phillies playing. the citizens bank park is one of two mass testing sites in the region, a drive-through mobile site for patients over 50 or health care workers showing symptoms of coronavirus. here in pennsylvania, we saw a 25% spike over the last couple days each day, ticking up 500 new cases state-wide. pennsylvania is trying to get a handle on containment and focus on social distancing here in the city and across pennsylvania.
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i want to point out the break jut of the age rages. everyone has been talking about how coronavirus affects the elderly, half of the cases here in pennsylvania are among young people. i think it's 11% are 19 to 24 and 38% are 25 through 49. there's a couple other single-digit percentages that are younger than 19. the governor and the secretary of health here in pennsylvania are focused on limiting that community spread among all people in pennsylvania. a bulk of the counties here are hit with coronavirus. and half are issued stay-at-home orders right now, kendis and lindsay. the governor has been cognizant to give updates. and he is saying that following the travel advisory from the cdc. anyone in the new york area should be quarantining for 14 days. >> yeah. many of the governors in these states are taking the lead in the fight against this virus. maura barrett there in
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philadelphia for us. let's go back to dr. ahmed. i want to ask you asking that maura just said. the virus is most dangerous over 65. but younger people are getting this and getting very sick. is that something you're seeing in your hospital? >> yes, sadly. i have a number of patients who are younger than i am. and we see some very young people who come in severely ill. you have to understand, we're seeing a particular section of the population as a critical care specialist. you only see the most seriously ill. i think we need to understand and the best person to listen to in this is dr. deborah birx. i stop everything i'm doing. there is a high exposure in our community, for some reason, in the new york area. the virus has a high penetrate. we have the most densely populated area in the world and
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a lot of young people, they have been exposed. the virus triggers a massive immune response. in many patients, that means it will clean up the virus, eliminate it, they will get better and live happily ever after. in some patients, it means they become very ill. all of the patients, we're being aggressive on. the older we are, the higher the fatality rate. that's what we know from italy and china. that's what colleagues are seeing in france, who i have spoken to. this is very serious. i want to say one thing. i do believe there is a role for tailored quarantine. the president was speaking about restricting travel in certain areas. i sincerely hope that we do not see an epicenter like this somewhere else a month down the line. and the only way we can do that is testing, as you see through the drive-through in philadelphia. and people complying.
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do not underestimate this. don't be visiting your grandparents. don't be socializing. one of my medical residents told me yesterday, that the house above him, the apartment above him was having a party last night. and here we were, making rounds on some of the sickest patients that i am seeing in many years. and it's very upsetting for our doctors. it's upsetting for our colleagues to know. >> you and your colleagues are on the front lines. every night at 7:00, kendis and i have heard our neighbors, clinging pots and pans, screaming in solidarity with you. >> that's so nice. that's nice, thank you. >> doctor, thank you. the case for layoffs. why some restaurants and bar owners are opting to let their staff go, hoping it will actually help the workers. plus, the economic silver lining. which companies are hiring and why they need workers now. introducing ore-ida potato pay.
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we say good morning to you in philadelphia. a live look right there. market street, i believe. you can see city hall down there in the distance. the streets are fairly quiet in that big city, as they are in many, many major cities across the country right now. >> the numbers are rising in the u.s. and also in europe. in italy, the number of cases has surpassed 92,000. the cities there begin a fourth week of lockdowns. spain has crossed 72,000. germany is reporting more than 52,000 cases. and france has more than 37,000. the u.k. is testing now, reporting more than 17,000 cases. >> all this as people are slowly returning to the streets of the city of wuhan, china, where the outbreak started late last year. and joining us now from brussels, belgium, is matt puso, an msnbc contributor.
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when you look at what's happening now in china, should europe and the u.s. be bracing for at least three months of lockdown, infections and rising death tolls? >> well, i think it's certainly obvious that this is going to be a longer time horizon than european leaders had hoped for. in belgium, they expanded our temporary -- they're not calling it a lockdown -- lockdown, for another two weeks. and certainly, i think you're not seeing a flattening of the curve in a lot of european countries yet. and you are starting to see some countries starting to tick upwards at that exponential growth rate that's so alarming. >> matt, why is the death rate in germany in particular, so much lower than italy and spain? it's strange numbers there. >> that's a great question.
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if 9/11 was the crisis when we learned geography, i think coronavirus is the one that we're going to relearn our fractions. the death rate is interesting because the denominator, the number on the bottom of the fraction, is different for every country, because of how many confirmed cases you have. and in germany, you have more testing. so, your denominator is going to be bigger. that's one explanation. in italy, you have to be pretty sick to get tested. and if you're pretty darn sick, it's a higher likelihood that you're going to die. that's one explanation. another explanation is that the german epidemic really began among younger people, both with carnivale and people coming back from ski trips. and so, because it started in a younger population, you tend to have healthier immune systems, so, your mortality rate is going
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to be lower. that's another explanation. and the third explanation, is germany may be earlier in the curve. the germans are telling us, this is really just getting going. >> you wrote an article about a topic we don't hear a ton about, cargo ships. 150,000 people trapped aboard cargo ships. we go to the store and the gas station and expect the supplies to be there. somebody has to be there to get it from point "a" to point "b." what do you hear from the crew members who are trapped? >> they are trapped and in forced labor. it is a consequence of the developed world that ports stay open for supplies so we can get our toilet paper and our gas and our food and our amazon deliveries. but the truth is that the countries want the goods but they don't want the people. and the way cargo ships work, when you pull into port, a certain percentage of every ship rotates out.
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and new crew members come on, old crew members go home. they're on fixed contracts. and the rights of crew members are established as international human rights. people have been working a month or two months long after they were supposed to be off of the ships. they have elderly family in their home countries. they're worried and loved ones are on lockdowns and they're forced to keep working for our demand for goods. governments could address this problem. but that would mean a big logistical challenge and there's plenty of logistical challenges to go around. >> one of the workers you talked to is supposed to be home a month ago, and said, i would rather be home with my family. now, to business news and the shocking new job numbers. about a record rise in unemployment claims, quadruple the previous weekly high set in
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1982. >> a wroter said it would be in the best interest of his employees to be let go so they could collect unemployment benefits instead of trying to work. joining us is the author of that article. unemployment insurance was beefed up in this economic relief bill, increasing the max benefit by $600 a week for four months. is this enough for people to stay afloat? and is that restaurant owner right? >> it's a start in terms of keeping workers afloat, those that lost their jobs. this is a historic number. record-breaking. over 3 million american workers lost their jobs last week because of officials' public health policy that tell people to stay at home, don't go to work and work from home. many businesses don't allow workers to work from home. so, they just let them go. and that's why we saw the massive numbers in terms of
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unemployment claims. i did speak to sal. he's the owner of patsy's italian restaurant in new york city. it was a difficult position for him. he had workers that have been with him for over 40 years. the restaurant was established at the tail end of world war ii by his grandfather. but he had to let the employees go because he wanted them to be able to collect unemployment. that's the best solution for them now. he doesn't have any work for them right now. >> in the meantime, as we parse the numbers in a different term, many people who are being let go and fired, but seaworld, among those, seaworld orlando, saying it will furlough more than 90% of its employees. why furlough? what's the distinction there? >> right. the distinction between furloughing and laying off, when you furlough employees, you will call them back once there is an opportunity. in terms of what's happening
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with seaworld orlando's location, they had to close it two weeks ago because of the coronavirus pandemic. because it's closed, they had to let the employees go. but the hope is, once we're over -- we have the flattening of the curve, there's a reduction in the number of coronavirus cases, in the u.s., then they will be able to reopen and bring these workers back. but this is just another indication, kendis, of the financial devastation that the coronavirus has had on workers, both at the local, state and federal level. >> seaworld, 90% of its staff furloughed. we want to end on a positive note. who is hiring? >> i want to give a shoutout to nurses. we need more nurses. they're on the front lines, fighting this pandemic, trying to keep everybody healthy and save lives. you have instacart. they are hiring. walmart. and ccs, 50,000.
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here's the latest on the coronavirus pandemic. the cdc is urging people in new york, new jersey and connecticut to avoid nonessential travel for the next
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14 days. this comes after president trump said he was considering a quarantine of those states. 4 million face masks have arrived from china. airbus is launching a new flight between europe and china for countries that need supplies. it comes after spain announced its lockdown after reporting its highest daily death count. >> and this is the scene along miles of empty beaches in southern california. residents appear to be following the state's stay-at-home order. california has recorded more than 5,400 cases. >> it's been tripping on the florida coast. there's certain counties that have blocked people from going to the beaches. and you can tell on the line, the counties that allow people to go there. quite striking. nationwide, the total number of cases has surpassed 120,000.
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joining us now, a risk and behavioral expert. thank you so much for being here. there's a lot of questions swirling over whether people should be wearing masks. despite early guidance that healthy people don't need them, what does it take right now? >> sure. so, there's been a recent reporting saying that, perhaps, the guidelines were misinformed or there's new evidence to suggest that face masks do have an effect that is worth while. the evidence of that is still relatively inconclusive. and we still need to follow the cdc and world health organization guidelines on best practices here. it varies significantly across cultures. we have experts out of asia that emphasize the need to wear face masks for the population, especially when they're outside and engaging in public. and that's not the evidence -- that's not the guidance being
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rolled out universally throughout the globe. and we've seen that. this is a human being issue, a cultural issue and a supply chain issue. if we had the supply, would we recommend that everyone start wearing face masks? it is one of the many policies towards flattening the curve. in addition to that is enhanced hygiene and social distancing. because of the supply chain issue, because of unique cultural differences, there is, right now, no recommendation from the government for americans to be wearing masks. >> let me pick up on that quickly. i was listening to dr. fauci this morning on "the daly show." and he said one of the ways it is spread, is by people sneezing. if you have a mask and you sneeze into that mask, doesn't it prevent it from spreading easily? >> you would think that. that's intuitive. and those who have symptoms are
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first recommended to wear masks over those that are not showing symptoms. and that is effective in environments that are high-risk, like in hospitals and those with patients. that's where it makes sense. but those that are just wearing masks that don't have symptoms and being out and about, that is significantly reduced the potential effectiveness because human behavior is complex. we're perfectly imperfect. you might wear it. you might shift it, that you are not as vulnerable now and you might engage in more risky behavior. that's why it's inconclusive. the benefit that's there, it seems intuitive, because we're complex and because that might lead to additional behaviors that increase one's risk of transmitting or getting infected, that's why we need to take that into consideration. >> what about for the hospital workers who don't have enough ppe and people are making and sewing masks. are homemade masks effective?
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>> i would really, again, urge people to make sure that any information, especially around do-it-yourself face masks are coming from credible sources. we're learning a lot of what we're capable of doing in times of crisis. we're more creative in using the supplies that are available to us. you're hearing incidents from those on the front lines that are working with ventilators and trying to find how -- trying to create ventilators and situations so more people can get the care that they need. you see reusing of masks, that would normally never be recommended. it might be suggested to the public, despite what we know, is the initial guidelines, maybe we can get creative with us and figure out ways to do it ourselves. those situations, again, in times of crisis, are unique. it doesn't necessarily mean this should trickle down to the general population to also become creative in that sense, especially if there isn't that
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high-risk situation and need to do it. look at the base rate transmission of the virus, in your particular community and really follow the local guidelines. at the current recommendations are that there's no need for americans, to be wearing face masks in general. >> thank you so much for joining us this morning, clearing that up. the president's controversial plan to try to quarantine the new york region, was dropped, just hours later. and replaced with a travel advisory. >> new reporting on what may have been behind the president's quarantine threat. threat.
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some people would like to see new york quarantined because it's a hot spot. >> i am now considering and will make a decision very quickly, very shortly, a quarantine, because it's such a hot area, of new york, new jersey and connecticut. >> i didn't speak to him about any quarantine. >> have you had any indication that's a possibility for new york or new jersey or connecticut? >> i don't have those conversations. i don't know what that means. >> president trump floating the idea of quarantining the tristate area. but he now says that's not necessary. >> the president, instead, tweeting that the cdc is issuing a strong travel advisory for
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new york, new jersey and connecticut. joining us is john, a beside insider. what was the president's decision to quarantine the states. we heard andrew cuomo that was not happy about that idea. could that have played into it at all? >> absolutely. cuomo said such an order could amount to a declaration of war on states. and that's very strong language. but arguably necessary. cuomo said he had no idea how this could legally be enforced. and the legal territory here is fairly hazy. the federal government has quarantine powers but leaves a lot of the decisions up to the states. so, this would have been a very complicated order to implement. it's hard to know how it would be enforced. but it seems to have been inspired by comments made by the florida governor, who is concerned about new yorkers coming down there, which is interesting, given he has refused to issue a shelter in
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place order in his state and kept the beaches open during spring break and allowed college students to flock back to their states across the country. >> here's one of the reasons that president trump gave, john, while floating the idea of a quarantine. take a listen. >> restrict travel because they're having problems down in florida. a lot of new yorkers going down -- we don't want that. heavily infected. >> it echoes a little of what you're saying. how much could the president's ties -- he just recently became a florida resident and there is a republican governor there in florida. his ties to florida, can that be part of his rationale in the first place? >> sure. well, he's probably more likely to listen to the governors who are friendly with him, such as a republican governor. >> i think we may have lost him. go ahead, john.
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>> sorry. can you hear me? >> yep. go ahead. >> yes. we know that he has expressed a need for appreciation from governors. he's friendly with the governor down in florida, republican governor. that could have played into it. it's really interesting that if the concern here is to limit travel out of new york and the tristate area, why float a quarantine out there and say, potentially, it might lock you in, only to back away hours later? who knows how many people may have panicked and fled the area in the meantime? >> on that note, many state officials tell "the washington pos post", they don't understand the standards that determine how much of the national strategic stockpile they'll get. the president said he wants governors who are critical of him to be appreciative. is there any idea how the supplies are being doled out
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state-by-state and if politics are playing a roll? >> it's astonishing that trump is saying we want governors to appreciative. it has to go both ways. trump is the president of all americans and his relationship with governors, you know, should not be dependent on whether governors have treated him well. this is a pandemic. this is life or death stuff. for trump to float the idea that aid or federal aid would be conditioned on whether governors have thanked him enough is astonishing during a time like this. >> some would prefrefer to it a quid pro quo. someone saying online that michigan is the new ukraine. john, thanks to you. >> thanks for having me. thousands of workers threatening to strike tomorrow. >> workers at instacart say their job has become unsafe. next, hear the demands from one
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pandemic, many people are turning to shopping and deliver chris services like insta cart if you can get a slo the. >> workers are are threat tong to go on strike over what they consider enadequate protection and pay. joining us is one of their shoppers and preparing to go on strike. thank you for being here and still working at least up until this point let's start with this. do you believe you have put yourself and your customers for this matter a at are risk? >> i mean, of course. i take the best precautions as possible, but there's always that risk. i'm out every day. ult million times a a day in
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different stores and i'm touching carts, touching items so there's only so much i can do. but like i said, just talking the best precautions is all i can do a at this point. >> a time many people are told to stay home, you're going out it there to shop for people. in an a open letter, the gig workers collective said instacart has not provided essential protections for shoppers. so what measures do you want instacart to take? >> we're looking just for the basics. ppe, hand sanitizer, disinfectant wipes, soaps. we're looking for no cost for the shoppers because we know many of them live on a very strict budget. they don't have the extra cost. we're looking for hazard pay. we're already not being paid a
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minimum wage or anything close to that, $5 per order would be a good start and then having that tip default to the 10% and then lastly, having that extended and expanded sick pay for workers. so instacart only wants to go until april 8th which is a week out or so. that's not a long enough time period. they are not using doctors notes that are quarantined. these shoppers, a as a reason to pay them, they are saying we're thot going to pay you because you haven't been tested. we don't have the tests available. these shoppers are not able to work. >> i'm curious. what's a typical day has been like within the lst couple weeks with the lockdown of many cities. >> they have been crazy. i've been a shopperer for two years. i have never experienced anything like this before. it's just the stores are crowded most of the days.
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etspecially the weekends when people aren't working. you still see people in there with entire families. moms and dads with kids instead of one of them staying home. not a lot of people are take in the precautions needed. many of them are. you see people with masks and gloves or using the hand sanitizers at the store. so you see a little bit of everything, but especially the uptick in deliveries. it's opinion insane for us. i live in a small town so this is something we're not used to. just doing the best we can for the people that need this type of delivery and service. >> quickly, what would a strike look like? are you olympianing not to show up tomorrow? >> starting a at 8:00 a.m. tomorrow my time, i will not be taking any orders until these demands are met. i have no problem going as long as needed. done it before and i'll and do it again. instacart needs to know we are serious.
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they need to listen to us. >> they say they are hiring 300,000 people. it's already difficult, as is, to get the additional orders. now this will make it a little more difficult. the statement you see there from instacart, thank you. >> and thank you for watching msnbc live. we'll see you back next weekend a at 6:00 a.m. eastern. more news with alex whit including an army veteran stepping up to help hospital workers get face masks they desperately need. al workers get face masks they desperately need lots of money with liberty mutual! we customize your car insurance so you only pay for what you need! only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪
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