that's good for their countries. we did not discuss that, no. >> the navy is set the fire the captain of the uss teddy roosevelt. it appears he's being punished for trying to save the lives. what's your assessment? >> we'll have news conference about that. i don't agree with that at all. not at all. not even a little bit. >> thank you. this morning you said that new york got off to late start. they should have pushed harder. the governors and other state lead rs sers say they rely on t federal government to assess the situation and how risky it is. they want to know how would they have known to start sooner without your guidance? >> they have experts and frankly, long after we came out and talked about it. how would i have known to cut

off china. i cut off china very early. if i didn't, we would have a chart that you wouldn't believe. how would i know to cut off europe. i cut off europe very early. people knew some bad things were going on. they got off to late start. we cut off china. if we didn't cut off china, we would have been in some big trouble p we cut it off way early. go ahead. >> mr. president, the toll up on the insurance point in a separate question that came from from a colleague that can't be in the room. on the insurance point -- >> who are you with? >> role call. is there going to be an opportunity for insurance companies, if hospitals are compensated for uncompensated care, are the insurance

companies going to also get compensated for its extraordinary expenses that they may have or they sieming that cost? >> we haven't discussed it but we're talking to them. getting them to not pay copays and the case of the big ones. that's a lot of money we gave up but we're discussing that with the insurance companies. go ahead. >> i have a question on japan, sir. they are expanding their entry ban to include the united states. are you planning to take any similar action to ban japanese nationals from coming to the u.s. as a result of this crisis? we're looking at a lot of things and a lot of different bans. we have more bans than anythibo. we have bans when they weren't fashionable. we had bans long before people thought of bans.

this had never been done. it's a terrible thing to do. four weeks later they were all saying we're lucky we did it. we heard that. i think it's fine that they do that. if you're considering telling the entire nation stay at home. just today georgia's governor finally issued stay at home order saying individuals could have been infecting people before they felt bad but we didn't know that until the last 24 hours. is that ignorance, gross incompetence? >> you've had calls with these governors. >> he has to make his own decision on that. i think we're about 85% positive on that. i think it's about 85% of states got the stay at home.

bryan is a great governor. it's his decision. he made that decision. ultimately he decided to go along with it. >> is it smart to wait? >> the state is doing well in many respects. go ahead. >> this is another colleagquestm a colleague who couldn't make it. the question regards to the russian plane that landed at jfk can medical supplies. did united states ask russia -- >> you've been listening to today's coronavirus briefing from the task force there. the president looks like we have gotten all fresh information that we're going to get from this evening. i want to bring in two doctors that have been watching with me. they are clearly is a debate on the task force about the masks. i'll get to the doctors in a minute on that.

she is not succeeding. we are not bending the curve. spain is bending the curve. we are not intending t inbendin. that was a gut punch moment for me to hear dr. birx to say that. >> it sure was. wroit th i wrote that down as well. one of the most notable moments of the briefing. she said i can tell by the curve that not every one is engaging in their social distancing guidelines. essentially saying people are not taking this seriously enough yet, chuck or not enough people are taking this seriously enough. she did say that the debate goes on about whether or not the cdc is going to recommend that americans do wear masks when they leave their houses and she stressed that the concern and

part of the debate revolves around people getting too relaxed when it comes to these social distancing guidelines they they want to make sure the people are not touching their faces and still standing six feet apart and they are largely staying at home unless they absolutely need to go out to get feed and other critical supplies. president trump, for his part did have a different message. he said, look, that is still being is discussed. if you want to wear mask or a scarf, he tried to make the case that a scarf could be more protective. i'll leave that to the doctors to weigh in on that point. i think a lot of people are looking for guidance on this, chuck. i think this will continue to be at the fore front of these briefings until dr. birx or the other top doctors there give a final answer, chuck. >> i want to go to the doctors

first. i hope you're with me here when we're doing these things. i guess we lost her. weigh in on the mask issue. i found it interesting to hear dr. birx, i'm not going to get into the back and forth that's fake ta takes place. she was saying why it's not mandatory but saying it will be added to the guideline. where do you fall on this? >> i can see both sides. i think in an idea world we have the public from touching their face and protect others. they are infected. we have shortage of protective

masks from our health care workers, first responders and police. we don't have enough masks for those people that are in day-to-day contact with known covid-19 positive patients. to tell the general public to wear masks when we don't have enough for health care workers seems crazy. all of those wonderful sewers and makers out there, that those cloth masks could be used by the public. that may be a good solution for the short term while we try to increase the supply of the standard surgical masks and keep those fabricated mask, not the homemade, keep those high standardized matsings for the front line health care workers. >> this is ari melber.

i'm continuing our special. chuck todd was with us but i want to tell you, a little bit more about what we're going to do knew. we're witnessing this surge in cases approaching a quarter million in the united states. new report breaking job losses. this is a tough day during a tough time. we heard the white house touting their new emergency and business relief measures. the president calling on doctors from around the nation to help new york. he discussed the log jammed in the supply chain which is delaying the white house how certain supplies are reaching hospitals. the president arguing they may continue to revise guidelines. as we have been doing around here in our special coverage i want to bring in some new expert who is have be on hand listen pg to the briefing.

i could start anywhere. i have three bona fide icons. your reaction to what people need know right now. >> i think you heard some desperation on the part of dr. birx about people not taking the physical distancing, the washing of the hands seriously. the curves are beginning to scare the white house task force even more because we're not bending the curve at all. if you just have florida and georgia just coming on board in

terms of physical distancing over the last few days, you're not -- you can't expect the curves to really bend for another two or three weeks or maybe even four weeks. with take an action and it still takes four weeks to find out if it's been effective or not. there are some spots like seattle area in san francisco that do appear they are doing much better. the demand on their hospital system is not overwhelming the way you might have expected if in fact the virus were spreading. those were states that implemented these physical distancing measures, hand watching measures, work from home measures much earlier than other places. you saw some tension there on the mask issue, on the health insurance issue between various parts of the task force.

i think every one recognizes that we got to provide health coverage to every one. you're not going to get people in if they are uninsured or have tens of thousands of dollars of intensive care. the last thing is the supply chain. you heard about a few million, 20 million masks. ts it's a small number. >> i'm going to slow you down. just before you got to masks, you mentioned this one measurable ray of hope. i want to put that forward here for viewer and let you expound a little more. as you mentioned, over 40 states running stay at home orders. this new data, this is out brand new today. as you just said it shows some of the drastic measures saving lives with places that tried this earliest, washington state, california had more success in flattening the curve. data reported out by the washington post. zeroing in on that, doctor, what

is that mean for government policy and what does it mean for individual citizens as we make choices in the coming weeks. i think it means what we should have done a long time ago is that every state ought to have the shelter in place, stay at home orders. the physical distancing orders, closing restaurants, closing bars, sending people home to work from home and closing schools. i think all of those measures need to be put in place nationwide and that it reminds people that you'll see a response in terms of easing on the health care system, lower rate of growth, but that will take three or four weeks to materialize and this sort of slight laisse-faire attitude the president has taken is a little r worrisome. they seem to be more urgent.

ten states haven't done this. i think the data from those west coast places should suggest to governors and others this will be effective but you have to do it asap. >> right. senator. >> first, my state has not done a statewide stay at home order. we're one of those ten states. the governor really has his priorities straight. he made sure nobody will have to pay a late penalty for renewing their conceal and carry license but declined to issue a stay at home order for the sdtate. we have real problems here in my state. i did a lot of work around government contracting. i understand war profiteering like went on in the iraq war. what is happening right now is profiteering because of supply and demand. the federal government has the ability to stop this. price gouging laws don't generally apply to government

contracts. that's why the executive power at this time of national emergency should be used to set prices on masks and ventilators and say this is the price the federal government will pay and you must sell it to us or we will sell our negotiate however they want to do it. they admitted in this briefing they don't want to interrupt commerce. that means -- i'm not talking about hoarding. i'm talk about price gouging. new york right now is spending billions of dollars on health care equipment with public money and they are over paying for what they are buying because this executive, this president, because of some of the culture in his and politics and his administration don't want to step in and say, no. we're not going to put up with profiteering in this health care

crisis. it's outrageous to me. >> both strong points there. dan rather, always good to have your perspective as we go through this as a nation. we are, as claire just mentioned, living through several major changes. gun sale s hit the second highet on record. unemployment, the highest ever. there are reactions that go beyond even the death toll of the pandemic. take a listen to how president obama spoke about then, the economic crisis. >> you don't need to hear another list of statistic to know our economy is in crisis because you live it every day. it's the worry you wake up with and the source of sleepless night nights. the impact of this recession is real and it's everywhere. while our economy may be weakened and our confidence

shaken, we are living through difficult and uncertain times, tonight i want every american to know this, we will rebuild. we will recover and the united states of america will emerge stronger than before. sg what's on your mind as you look at this president's response? >> what's on my mind is, first of all, what ambassador brig said. the most important message today, i want to give you some historical per speckick spect - perspective but we're not doing what we need to do to broaden the curve out. we have to listen to the doctors and other scientists. that's the most important thing. in direct answer to your question, the lack of federal government response is what it

is. different people will have different harsh things to say about the dysfunction. it is a lot of dysfunction with it. it is what it is. we have to face it. i'm at the point, i think a lot of people are, that we can't depend on the politicians of any stripe to deliver us from this. it's going to be our will, our discipline, our commitment, our hope and our resoever is going to do it. from the historical standpoint, the world is already asking how is it that a country that could put man on the moon, can't get enough masks and gowns for its health care front line workers. she put her finger on something. this price gouging and war profiteering. if president trump wanted to turn around his whole public image in this, if he started naming name, naming the companies, naming the executives who are taking part on this war profiteering and this gouging,

he would see his polls go through the roof. i wouldn't hold my breath of him doing that but this is unforifrabunforif unforgivable for this to take place. >> mr. rather, do you view this based on the stories in administrations that you covered, do you view this as the issue, the crisis that defines this election, this generation that's coming of age now in this climate? >> i do. i think it will define president trump's presidency but define our generation. fathers and mothers and our ancestors came include some terrible times. i went through a long period in which i thought the final verdict on president trump's administration was bound to be the impeachment proceeding.

no longer. the words about historic and unprecedented but that's understating. we as a people, as a country, have never been through anything like this for well over 100 years, at least. >> all very important points. i want to thank dan rather and dr. emmanuel who returned to us for a special discussion on misinformation later this hour. senator mccaskill stays with me. i want to read something we were charting here when you look at where we have gone. it took 66 days to get from the first u.s. case to hit 100,000. then five more days to get to the next 100,000. walk us through what that means. this is also the charts of this. what that means and your view of the president's response. >> this is when our elected officials and are not well equipped because there is a very bad habit that people in

elective office and i'm sure i was guilty of it from time to time and that is thinking in the short term rather than the long term and not paying enough attention to data. i think what this president did in the early days was ignore the science, ignore the experts in his administration, ignore the intelligence community, ignore all of the people that were trying to tell him that he had to move quickly and assertively early. new every one is trying to catch something after it is gone too far. my state is a great example of that. the idea that you have florida with a number of vulnerable people that live in florida and it took until just a day or two ago for that governor to do the basics and say, hey, everybody, stay home. it is this friction between the cold data and the long term issue versus what's it going to do for me today politically.

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welcome back to our continuing coverage. by any measurement this has been the worst week for the coronavirus in the united states. the new unemployment numbers out, all time highs. we had the deadliest days this week since the pandemic began. one place driving the grim number, new york city. refrigerated trucks have been parked outside the hospitals ready to transport the march of bodies. over 2,373 people have died. about one fifth of that death toll came in the past 24 hours. combine that with projections for the peak of new york is weeks away. you can see why governor cuomo offers this assessment. >> if a person comes in and need a vent lart and you don't have one, the person dies. that's the blunt equation here.

right now we have a burn rate that would suggest we have about six days in the stockpile. >> i'm joined now by new york senator kirsten gillibrand. what else needs to be done for new york? >> i'm very concerned that fema is not actually giving relief to the states that need it the most. i wrote a letter today to president trump urging him to review what fema has done because the truth is some states that don't have great needs have received everything they have asked for or even more. new york needs to get the ventilators out of the national stockpile as well as the masks and other ppe still in the u.s. defense department stockpile. >> there's a lot of different things to take from these press briefings we get at the white house. i think it would be important to get your reaction to something that is not normal, not generally acceptable in any other administration which was that the president handed off,

at one point, today, to someone with no medical expertise or other prior government history, his son-in-law, jared kushner. i'm curious his role in the virus briefings for the country. >> i don't think he's either prepared or qualified to lead that operation. president trump would do better to put experts in charge of this pandemic. president trump has made poor decisions from the very beginning. at first minimizing the risk and second denying the risk and third not moving on the risk. he didn't actually create the resources that would be necessary to deal with this epidemic. he should have allowed testing from january on and not required it to go through the cdc. he's put us behind by months in preparation because of his unwillingness to act and lead. governors and mayors are doing their best to make up for his lost time. >> senator, today we saw

unemployment numbers absolutely surge. last week were the highest on record. four times higher just for viewers to remember, four times higher than next highest number. this week, today's new numbers even higher than that. at a basic policy level, do you view what the congress has now done, very expensive, trillions spent, as enough or is there more that you want to see done what's looking like a recession or worse? >> this package we just passed is not nearly enough. it's just the next traunch of emergency funding. it's for those people that unempl unemployed, state, city, small businesses. this was just the next step in trying to deal with the you aur crisis we have in our states. there be be another package, no doubt. our governor and state still

have massive holes in their budget that we need goito begin fill. making sure cities and states can stay boabove board. >> the administration relieving a naevy captain who had prior raised alarms about coronavirus. i have got some of the story. we'll keep his rank and remain in the navy. official reason was given a quote loss of trust and confidence. he was literally the person raising this alarm about the virus. do you have a view of that development? >> well, i don't know all the details and the facts that the white house has. i have concerns. this white house is not treated whistle-blowers well.

he hasn't treated anyone who stood up to say what's happening or what needs to be done. we need truth tellers right now. unfortunately, president trump continues to tell conspiracies and lies to the american people and continues to undermine the experts who are trying to deal with this unbelievable disaster throughout the country. we're in the middle of an epidemic. we need truth tellers and leaders. we need who can admit the buck stops with them and that's not what we're seeing with this president. >> thank you. >> thank you. let me tell you a bit more about what we're going to do in the rest of this broadcast. we did some of the fact checking and the briefing and the policy. next we'll get into the front line offense this fight with an icu physician from florida's largest hospital who is already lost a colleague to the coronavirus and later how the fight disinformation with some very special guests. tion with se very special guests. good morning, mr. sun. good morning, blair. [ chuckles ]

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most americans are under some kind of stay at home order but the latest state to join that approach is florida where governor ron desan tis implemented the order within the last day. florida is revealing the cost of inaction. it went from two cases a month ago, to over 9,000, including a nurse who died over the woekdee. that's one more brave american giving up her life to fight this pandemic. florida lacks behind states with similar upon ypopulations. the sunshine state facing risk because it's home to retirees and many americans. what are you seeing on the ground? >> on the ground what we're seeing here is beginnings of a surge over the last week or so. we're seeing an increasing number of cases every day.

people are coming sick of all ages. >> do you have what you need to get the job done? >> ppe as our other hospitals here in florida and across the sna nation. our hospital is providing us with ppe but it's a day, today issue of trying to be tan more. we're not following what the guidelines should be and the evidence put out by researchers across the world including in countries that are days to months ahead of us that we can learn from as well as our own public health experts. we need more ppe for our front line workers. that's not just doctors and

nurses but also the janitorial staff, grocery store people coming into contact with people that could have coronavirus. we all need more protection. people may start with mild symptoms but that often leads to false sense of security. what we're seeing is that a couple days into the infection x people deteriorate rapidly and go from mild symptoms to life threatening illness or possibly even dead requiring full life support. the issue becomes when we are getting more and more people due to this surge, we accelerating phase, when we're in this situation we are facing

up against a shortage of ve ventilators and there's chance we may have to start making decisions about who get a ventilator and who doesn't. who gets that safe living treatment and who does not and dies from their illness if we do not start coordinating our response to this virus and getting more equipment. >> do you view that as an avoidable situation? >> absolutely. the situation we're in right now is the situation we're in as other guests have said, we can't change the past. looking forward, we have an opportunity to work together at the national level, at the state level and at the local level for our front line workers who are trying to save mempbs damerican and day out. we have an opportunity to prevent the deaths that have happened including colleagues that work side by side with sick patients and the colleagues that are going to have life --

>> we have been listening to the doctor. i suspect we may have lost him. i was going to ask about and share a photo that i think we still have. it's pretty emotional from some of the doctors there. i want says this is how we started or morning today. our team said a prayer asking god for guidance and protection while we're at work and to keep us and our families safe. that's from danny rodriguez who works at the jackson south medical center. i know we had some technical difficulties. i was showing viewers the photograph of some of your fellow colleagues praying. i wonder if you have anything you want to share about that and how you all are getting through this when you're obviously working hard and taking risks to help combat the virus.

>> we realize that at the end of this, we may not all still be here and it's a very sobering thought. it makes it difficult to do the work we're doing. we're trying to come together and work with our state and national leadership and public health experts to try to get ppe out and the way we do that is to get federal leadership on that and invek thing voke things lik defense protection act. >> it sinks in depending on where you live and how you get your information. listening to you speak bluntly

about the risks your colleagues face and the idea in war some of you may not return. i appreciate you sfenpending so time with us tonight, doctor. >> thank you. be safe. >> thank you. good luck to you. we're going to fit in a break. up next, we'll discuss something else that's actually literally dangerous to you even though it's only informational. that's all the misinformation, myth and rumor that's out there. we have two very special guests that will give you tools you need and maybe a ray of hope before our hour is done. stay with us. of hope before our hour is done. stay with us ♪

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welcome back. this has been a challenging time for people trying to learn important medical facts and take informed steps to protect themselves and consider the wider context. so many people looking to find their own subjective truth. fox played it down. they were asking whether virus cures are held back because some people don't like donald trump. other misinformation may stem from more old fashioned ignorance. the governor of georgia said he just learned people can spread coronavirus without showing symptoms. something his fellow government officials have been emphasizing for months. it's literally your job to get the fact and check your sources. compare that to the wild west of

internet or casual conversation where rumors of misinformation are spreading fast and they pose a public health threat. false stories about infected toilet paper to a magic cure to basically false alarm panics that are kpaj raexaggerated or . the point is not to lecture people especially about new and complex topics. our country is asking people to do basically a bunch of homework on a deadline under stress against the backdrop of flawed systems in our larger education apparatus and our politics as we showed you and in our health care system. to get into this discussion we want to do something different. i'm joined by renowned doctor and president former health adviser to president obama and

charlamange the god. great to see both you have. thanks for doing this. >> what's happening? >> thank you. >> what's happening, doctor? here we go. let me start it like this. i know to be one of the clearest commune karicators out there. what do you tell people who are sometimes get caught up in the false stories and rumors that could literally endanger their lives? >> i would tell those people that nobody knows what they are talking about. i would listen to the experts and the experts give the best advice. i think that advice is to stay home. social distancing seems to be working. it seems to have worked in different places across the world and being that none of us really know, that's the best advice just to get out of the way. people are saying i can go out if i wash my hands. i can go out if i wear mask. i can go out if i wear gloves.

i don't know if that's true. now they say you can get it f m fromming from having a conversation or breathing. it's like the movie the quiet place. i don't care about what the president saying. i have to put a lot of blame on the elected officials. when you're the celebrity in chief like the donald trump and you're like devin nunes in california saying you can go out to public restaurants or still be in school. you simply don't know. it's okay to say you don't know because this virus is a foreign objects that we have never seen. we're all learning on the fly. just stay home, please. >> stay home and remember what you don't know. doctor, what do you think of the way he puts it. some of what we're asking people to do cuts against the mood of being so empowered and being

able get your information where ever you want and find things that you agree with or find a piece of advice that you like. lord knows in politics people have all these different views and told they get to their th r views. we have to make sure there aren't multiple views on this. there's one view that is medical science and ignoring it could hurt yourself, right, doctor? >> i agree with you. one of the things i hope learned this and seems like the president has learned this is that science and facts in the end win and if you don't listen to them, you could end up dead. it's not just all opinion. there are facts and they matter. the one little thing i would disagree with is the opening comment. you backtrack a little and said listen to the experts. i would say there are some clear

experts here and one of the things the experts are really good about is we don't know everything. there's lot of stuff we don't know about this virus. what's the impact on pregnant women. we don't know. we haven't had enough time to know it's impact on pregnant women and it's what's the impact on pregnant women? we don't know. the impact on pregnant women and unborn baby. if you're in the late stages it appears to not have a bigfect but we don't know about early stages. be humble and modest. we don't know and don't believe all the things you're hearing out there. there are a few very, very clear items and again, i think he put them well. staying at home is a good thing. all right? washing your hands is a good thing. staying six feet away from other people, not your intimate family, other people is a good thing. when you go out, wear a mask. go out occasionally and stay far away from people. walk in a park or walk along a sidewalk that has no other

people because otherwise, you'll go crazy at home and that also is not good for your mental health. don't believe -- >> i hear you -- >> snake oil salesmen come out of the wood work all the time in these circumstance, whether it's, you know, vitamin c or it's chloroquine or whatever. at the moment we don't have proof on anything so don't take anything thinking you're protected because that's just garbage. >> well, and you mentioned mental health and all the obvious logical anxiety and other stimuli here. charlamgne, i want to play dr. fauci on show time late night show after going on with seth curry, the basketball star. ist it's been striking to see government officials, which he is in addition to being a medical expert taking

untraditional means. for this to work, it's not like most people can do this well. we really need communities where their hot spots for everyone to do well so people aren't unknowingly share it. first to charlamagne. >> you deal with professional documents, real numbers and real science. have you come across this hoax about this flu -- the coronavirus is fuactually cause by 5 g antennas. [ laughter ] >> no, i haven't, thank goodness. as you guys know better than anybody, social media can really bed a ventageous for the spread of important information but can be damaging for the spread of a lot of garbage. >> charla grgme? >> no, i like dr. fauci.

the reason i do, he clearly seems to know what he's talking about and you have to meet people where they are. if it's so much misinformation, you know, whether it's coming from social media and whether it's coming from our president, it's good when dr. fauci sticks with seth curry on instagram live or sits with deuces askand maro. that's the people i listen to. i listen to experts on this. i'm a god-fearing person so i believe in god but i listen to the cdc and if the cdc tell me to stay home, that's exactly what i'm going to do. i heard dr. fauci tell us to stay home a billion times in the past week or so. >> g-o-d, cdc, you can say that dr. fauci is competing to be the goat, greatest of all time when it comes to renowned medical

leaders. dr. emanuel, you get the last word here. >> i've learned -- i have known dr. fauci for 25 years, and i've learned a lot from him and one of the most important things is tony is very clear when he knows something and he knows it's right, he'll tell you and if he doesn't know, he'll also tell you and that's really important in this moment. we should not over hype anything and we should be very, very clear. and i do think he was quite clear, you know, social media can be a force for good here and it could also be a force for evil and get people to do things that could really endanger their life. and it's very, very important that you listen carefully but only to trusted sources of truth and science here and not to people who aren't actually basing what they're saying on the facts. it was very disheartening the

governor of georgia saying i didn't know -- people who feel normal could a, be infected and b, pass on the virus. what rock have you been under? really. it's been all over and you've got to really pay attention and that's what is critical here. pay attention to the facts. and you can't -- charlamgne said you can do work than listening to dr. fauci. >> look at fact sources, cdc, because something is on the internet or somebody you like said it, doesn't mean you can repeat it. we owe that to each other. this was a special kind of conversation and i feel more focused because of it. so my thanks to dr. emanuel and char charlamne. >> nice to meet you. >> thanks, dr. emanuel. i'll listen to you, too. you're a trusted professional. >> there it is. making relationships happen.

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reunion with her 6-year-old son. >> we are wishing many, many more reunions like that to people touched by this around the world. that does it for our special coverage. i'm ari melber signing off. don't go anywhere, "all in" with chris hayes starts now. good evening from new york. i'm chris hayes. there's a strange time lapse playing out throughout the coup triright now. places that have been hit first and hardest by the coronavirus are further along the curve of growth. and those places are fairly dense urban areas, big metropolises in really bad shape. the grim reality of this virus is everyone, every single state is headed there. here are the latest numbers. we now have more than 240,000