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and so that is our broadcast on this thursday night. on behalf of all of our colleagues at the networks of nbc news, good night from our temporary field headquarters. on. good morning. it's friday, april 3rd. coronavirus cases across the globe have now topped 1 million. as the united states added 30,000 new cases yesterday, a senior trump administration official telling nbc news the president is planning to issue guidance for americans in coronavirus hot spots to wear cloth face masks to slow the spread. meanwhile, the death toll in the united states is now approaching 6,000. earlier this week, the white house released estimates that showed between $100,000 and 200,000 americans could die from the virus.
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the leading disease forecasters, some of whom provides the forecast telling "the washington post" they have no clue how the white house reached those projections. in fact, two officials with direct knowledge telling the post that at task force meetings this week dr. fauci said, i looked at the models. they really don't tell you anything. and president trump announced he had he expanding the defense protection act. the order authorizes the head of fema to acquire as many n95 masks from 3 million as deemed necessary. the act is expected to help manufacturers like ge, medrronics. the order, quote, will save lives by removing obstacles in the supply chain that threaten the rapid production of
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ventilators. meanwhile, in the hardest hit state here, new york governor andrew cuomo said last night that he has enough ventilators to last about six more days. here he is on msnbc last night proposing a solution. >> the one silver lining here is not every place in this country gets hit at the same time. there's going the be a different curve for the disease in different areas. depending on when it started. and those curves will have a lag. why don't we device a national strategy that moves with that rolling apex, if you will? i need roughly 30,000 ventilators which i can't get. i only need 30,000 ventilators for two or three weeks at the top of my curve. let's be smart.
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otherwise, you're saying to every state, every locality, you must be prepared on your own to handle this. where we are now, 50 states all trying to buy the same equipment from china and then the federal government comes in with fema which is trying to purchase the same equipment. this is not the way to do it. and the simplicity is what makes it so tragic, specifically. because we don't have a piece of equipment, someone is going to die? because we don't have staff, someone is going to die? ohio did we get to this place in there country? >> and this type of rollout is something the governor has been proposing for the last couple of weeks or so. new york state added more than 9,000 new cases yesterday, totalling more sthan 92,000, more than half in new york city. the death toll in the city increased by 188 last night to
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more than 1500. hospitals are stretched so thin that city paramedics have been told that adult patients in cardiac arrest and cannot be revived in the field should not be taken to the emergency room. meanwhile, funeral homes are struggling to keep up. a funl owner saying he's capability of handling 60 cases at a time, and now he's handling 130. a record number of unemployment claims, an alarming 6.65 million. the week before, the department announced 3.82 million claims, bringing the month of march to over 10 million jobless claims. in fact, the past two weeks all but eliminated the jobs created in the past five years. the government has yet to release the unemployment rate, but the congressional budget office predicts it will be as
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high as 10% this quarter, startling. that is a stark jump from february's 3.5%. this all coming ahead of the much anticipated march jobs report which will be out later this morning. and we will be watching that and bringing it to you. so the new jobs report will be released later this morning. so far, the nation has seen record breaking number of americans filing for unemployment amid the coronavirus outbreak. joining me now to talk more about this, peggy collins. peggy, thanks so much for joining us on this. lets talk about this jobs report. wow, the numbers regard to unemployment claims over the last two weeks or so. pretty unbelievable, to say the least. what are you expecting to see from this report released later today? >> unfortunately, i think we'll see the numbers ride for the first time potentially since 2010 in terms of payrolls actually declining. we went into this jobs report
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thinking the economy was on a really good footing weeks or months ago, seeing huge gains in jobs over the last few years. this will be a pivot, we expect, but unfortunately it won't capture all of march when we saw some of the largest job losses because of the economy shutting down across swaths of the u.s. so we're cautioning our readers to basically think about the report, but it's not going to capture all of the worst jobs and that actually the april report may be a better reading of where we are. >> let's talk about basically phase three of this stimulus package, this aid package that was recently passed. some of it involving small business loans, a lot of small business owners needing some much anticipated help amid this economic downturn with the pandemic. the white house saying they're going to start loans with small
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businesses, but you have a lot of participating banks that are saying they are not ready. are people going to have access to the proper documents here to even start this process? and when starting this process, how long will it actually take? >> as you said, we're watching very closely today with reporters across the country to document how this process goes. again, the government is saying the program is up and running starting today, but, again, the small business administration has already encountered problems with its website in terms of small businesses being able to access the information they need even to fill out forms. and banks are saying they don't understand all the processes in place for how to get those loans and to who. today will be a test how will the program is going to go and that will, in turn, affect how long it takes for people to get that rch needed money.
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which if they follow certain protocols, that might turn the loan into a grant. >> is treasury not talking to they banks that they're not all of the same page? >> they are talking. one of the things is the magnitude of the program. the bill was huge. it included about 350 billion for small businesses, but the treasury is working with the federal reserve on developing a main street facility, but that's not up and running yet, either, in terms of direct loans to small businesses which we're waiting for, as well. >> peggy, thank you. stay close. i'm going to talk to you again in just a little bit. so jared kushner has again inserted himself between the government agencies and the trump administration's response to a global crisis. as a real estate developer with no medical expertise, the "new york times" notes kushner has made himself the point person
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for agency officials who know that he can force action and issue decisions without going to his father-in-law, the president. while some officials have praised kushner's efforts, several officials claim he has added more confusion to the coronavirus response and failing to deliver on promised improvements like nationwide drive through testing centers and a screening website powered by google. according to two people familiar with the events, trump unleashed his fury avenue kushner after the site never materialized which seems to knock him off balance. and for the first time at yesterday's briefing, jared occur ner stepped out to question states' quote, real need for life saving ventilators as more americans are dieing every single day. >> the states should know how many ventilators they have in
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their states. some governors i'll speak to and they'll know to the number how many ventilators they have in their state. don't ask us for things when you don't know what you have in your own state. just because you're scared, you ask your medical professionals and they don't know. you have to take inventory of what you have in your own state and you have to be able to show that there's a real need. >> okay. still ahead, u.s. senator kelly loeffler under new scrutiny after questions emerge about her stock trades before stock markets took a major tumble. plus, democrats are looking ahead to november and what can be done to keep voters safe while casting ballots. those stories and a check on your weather when we come back. n your weather when we come back
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welcome back. "the wall street journal" is
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reporting that republican senator kelly loeffler of georgia and her husband purchased and sold about $1.4 million in stock during the market panic setoff by the coronavirus pandemic. loeffler reported that she and her husband, who is chairman of the new york stock exchange, bought about nearly $600,000 of stock and sold about $845,000 of stock from february 18th through march 13th. had they held those shares through the weekend, the stock would have been valued at $86,000 less than what they sold it for. news of her stock trades comes as she battle toes keep her seat in the senate. a spokesman came to her defense calling it a baseless political attack and said all daily trades are handled by professional investment advisers without loeffler's private knowledge. joining me now, danny savalos.
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when this story first broke, danny, and we've talked about this periodically as it has been developing, it was shocking to so many. considering what we saw took place at the -- in the stock market and what is happening with people's 401(k)s across the board. what do you make here of her latest filing that shows she and her husband sold about $1.4 million in stock during this pandemic? >> if you take a step back, the entire essence of getting involved in the market is the belief that i know something that other people don't know. the market itself and investing is based on asymmetry of information. and that's why prosecuting or ferreting out insider trading is a complicated thing. now, congress, members of congress are not traditional officers in a company or a corporation who trade on material nonpublic information. but in secret briefings, it
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could be said that they're getting material, nonpublic information. but on the other hand, could it be said that any information, given that congress, members of congress who are by their very nature public is -- cannot be nonpublic in the sense that a member of a corporation has an obligation to keep things secret. now, in 2012, federal law was passed that said essentially, yes, members of congress have this duty to the american people. but the reality is nobody has been prosecuted since 2012, at least members of congress, for information they received while or as members of congress. there's been prosecution of people who were independently on the board of a corporation, but not for information received as members of congress. and if i was defending this case, my exhibit a would be showing all the communications or lack of communications with the people in her trust or
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whoever is managing her finances and showing the genesis of those trades and that it wasn't my client. >> but if you're looking at some of these dates, starting on february 19th, the first coronavirus case was discovered in late december or so in china. in january or february, people on the hill were already getting classified intelligence briefings with regard to a possible covid-19 outbreak. they were assembling a covid-19 task force. with advisers on board. if, in fact, that is the case and senator loeffler had information and received some of these briefings, could that not lend itself to a problematic situation for her? >> possibly. but the next step in the face of that powerful circumstantial evidence is to show that that information made its way to the
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people in charge of making her trades for her. if the government can show that there's that second step from the tipper to the tippee essentially that they received that information and acted on it, then the case becomes stronger. but then you go back to the origins, which is information given to members of congress -- it may be material, but is it truly nonpublic, even in light of the stock act of 2012, it may still be public information. that's why i think you see the doj has shied away from actually prosecuting members of congress. but keep in mind, there are not only criminal penalties, by civil penalties. you can be sued by the s.e.c., as well. >> thank you. still ahead, what dr. anthony fauci is saying about a national stay at home order. plus, democratic leaders make changes to the upcoming convention amid coronavirus concerns.
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does it make sense to you that some states are still not issuing stay at home orders? scientifically, doesn't everybody have to be on the same page with this stuff? >> i think so, anderson. i don't understand why that is not happening. the difference between federally mandated versus states rights to do what they want is something i don't want to get into. but if you look at what's going on in this country, i don't understand why we're not doing that. we really should be. >> that was dr. fauci in a cnn interview last night. democrats are pushing for more fund to go support mail-in voting this year due to the coronavirus. house speaker nancy pelosi says she wants to increase the
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funding for mail-in and absentee voting in the next stimulus package saying an additional $2 billion to $4 billion is needed to democratize's america's election system to address complications calleded -- caused by the coronavirus. however, minority leaders are not on board. senate majority leader mitch mcconnell said it's too early to determine what should be included in the next stimulus bill. the democratic convention, originally scheduled to start on july 13th will now be held the week of august 17th in milwaukee. the move comes to the heels of democratic front-runner joe biden calling for the event to be reseld.
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in our current climate of uncertainty, we believe the smartest approach is take a look at how this unfolds so we can best position ourselves in a safe environment. with that, i want to bring in nbc meteorologist bill karins who is standing by for us. good morning, bill. >> good morning. >> i know you're tracking the weather for us and you've been tracking that curve, as well. >> yes. >> how does it stand this morning? >> yesterday, the day before was our record. wednesday, we had over 1,000 fatalities. yesterday, we had about 950, so it was a slight decrease. we'll have to see if we get a trend going lower, but we're not expecting the apex to happen this weekend. maybe next week, maybe the week after that, but you can see the
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curve still going pretty high, up to 6,000 fatalities, approximately, right now. and state by state, new york had about 500 some on wednesday. thursday, new york reported 319. new jersey had its deadliest day yesterday, 182 new deaths. michigan, 80 new deaths. florida up to fourth on the list with 43 and then louisiana and massachusetts. so as we see, the spread is continuing across the country. now let's take a shift to the weather. yesterday was as ugly as it gets from cape cod to boston. this huge ocean storm has backed up towards us. the other weather concerns out there today, severe storms late this afternoon or this evening from san antonio to laredo, back to the waco area. so the forecast for today, a raw day. not bad. carolinas southwest. minneapolis to oklahoma city, feels more like a winter day
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than anything else. and a sneak peek for your winter forecast. it's not going to be quick and in the southeast, we'll watch it up. we'll take a look at the total cases and yesterday, we had almost 30,000 new cases of covid-19. that was a record in the country. still ahead, what treasury secretary steve mnuchin is saying about when stimulus checks will be delivered to americans affected by the coronavirus. we are back in a moment. e coronavirus. we are back in m aoment. when you take align, you have the support of a probiotic and the gastroenterologists who developed it. align naturally helps to soothe your occasional digestive upsets 24/7. so where you go the pro goes. go with align, the pros in digestive health. for adults with moderately to severely active crohn's disease, stelara® works differently.
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welcome back. we begin this half hour with new questions as to how the white house arrived at its projection that over 240,000 americans will die due to the coronavirus. while leading forecasters said they don't challenge the number's validity, white house officials have refused to explain how they generated this figure and they have not provided the underlying data so others can assess its reliability or provide long-term strategies to lower that death count. three white house officials are telling the post that some of president trump's top advisers have expressed doubts themselves about this estimate. and there have been fierce defends inside the white house about its accuracy. the post reported that at a task
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force meeting this week, dr. fauci told others there are too many variables at play in the pandemic to make these models reliable saying i spent a lot of time with the models. they don't tell you anything. you can't really rely upon models and the cdc directeder and the vice president's office have reportedly voiced doubts about the projection's accuracy. while a columbia university epidemiologist whose models are cited by the white house tells the post that his own work on the pandemic does not go far enough into the future to make predictions akin to the white house fatality forecast. and americans feeling the economic pinch of the coronavirus, they might receive some relief sooner than expected. as the government stimulus checks will now go out in april, not in may. a treasury department official telling nbc news they expect that 50 to 70 million americans will receive economic impact payments through direct deposit by april 15th. the overwhelming majority of eligible americans will sef
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economic impact payments within the next three weeks. yesterday, treasury secretary steve mnuchin further emphasized the speed in which the checks will be going out. >> i had previously said this would take us three weeks. i'm pleased to report that within two weeks, the first payments will be direct deposit into taxpayers' account. >> are the checks direct deposit, irs now saying it could take four to five months.you're saying two weeks. >> let me be clear. i don't know where you're hearing these things. i told you this would be three weeks. i'm now committing to two weeks. we're delivering on our commitments. the irs, which i oversee, within two weeks. the first money will be in people's account. >> staff memo that was released by the house ways and means committee today saying that process could take up to five weeks. that takes you to mid-august. >> that is not going to take -- again, let me just say, when obama sent out these checks, it took months and months and
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months. i am assuring the american public they need the money now. what we're going to do is, again, if we have your information, you'll get it in -- within two weeks. social security, you'll get it very quickly after that. if we don't have your information, you'll have a simple web portal and if we don't have that, we'll send you checks in the mail. >> how many checks can you process? >> we can process a lot of checks, but we don't want to send checks. in this environment, we don't want people to get checks. we want to put money directly into their account. >> so i think the big question is when and if that web portal is ready to face the volume of people that will be registering their information. joining me now, peggy collins. let's talk, peggy, about those that are eligible and receiving these payments from the government and when they can expect to actually get them. >> up to a certain income level
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are eligible for the checks. one of the things that's clear is if the irs has your direct deposit information because you filed with the irs and had your tax refund, for example, direct deposited, you will be among the first group to get them. the government has also said it's going to make an effort to get the checks to the lowest income people first. and as the treasury secretary said last night and we've reported, the irs is working on a web portal where people would be able to upload their direct deposit information if they believe the irs doesn't already have it. >> do we know if this web portal that mnuchin was just talking about, if it's ready to go? as we know about unemployment claims, that website has crashed many, many times. i've heard a lot of stories about people unable to file for unemployment because so many folks are filing for unemployment right now. is this same situation going to be here with this type of thing? and do you know how long the physical paper checks are going
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to take? >> well, we've reported that the irs is working on the portal but won't be ready potentially until may. so that is one thing in terms of the direct information you can put up there. and we also reported this week that there is a house ways and means report out there saying some of the direct mail checks could take months potentially. we've heard from a lot of readers, particularly those on social security, as well, who are anxious to get the checks. the government has said people on social security will be eligible for the checks, as well. >> peggy collins for us, thank you, peggy. great seeing you. let's go across the pond to the uk. the country's health secretary has set a goal of 119,000 covid-19 tests to be conducted a day by the end of the month. a 24% jump from the previous day in cases, there's rising anger in the country over the lack of testing, particularly for health
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workers as it emerged that only 2,000 national health service staff have actually been tested. the nhs is set to open two more nightingale hospital toes provide up to 1500 beds for covid-19 patients. prince charles, who tested positive for the virus, is expected to open london's nightingale hospital today via video link. joining me now from london, cal perry for us. cal, good morning to you. so great to see you, my friend. let's talk about the uk here as i was just setting it up. but i also want to first talk about spain before we get into that. the death toll in spain, unbelievable. surpassing 10,000, only second to italy now. a lot of citizens in spain struggling today. what are health authorities there saying about allocating treatment? >> it's great to see you. good morning. the two are connected, the situation in spain and the situation in the uk. specifically when you look at the impact that this virus has
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health on the health care workers, you have more than 12,000 health care workers in spain have tested positive for the virus which is why so many people n uk ain the uk are pushr testing. you also have guidelines where we have 5,000, 6,000 people in need of icu beds and we're talking about long-term care needed sometimes on these ventilators. we have some guidelines now being set by officials in spain, specifically in the region of catalonia. our nbc verification center was able to obtain a letter sent to some hospitals and emergency officials that basically says for patients over 80, what is recommended is home care and comfort care. and when you look at sort of triage in general, mass casualty triage specifically, this is fairley standard, but it shows what you difficult pressure that health care system is under. and in that region, we've seen 2500 people succumb to the virus. so that region in particular has been hit very hard.
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>> so let's move on now, cal, to the uk, where you are. authorities saying about testing. what are they saying with regard to testing? who can actually get tested? and what so far has been the public's reaction as these numbers go up-and-up over the days? >> yes, so the headlines and newspapers have been, quote, shame. shame on the government for failing at testing. we saw the health secretary here in the united kingdom yesterday, matt hancock come out and give a press conference to somebody who is recovering from the virus. he is fresh out of quarantine and said that in part, the government had failed at this, that only 2,000 members of the nhs had been tested. you know, we see these drive through centers here in england and they're empty because people who work at the nhs don't have the right paperwork. so there's a bureaucracy problem. now, the health secretary said he was going to test up to 100,000 people here a day. that is the goal by the end of
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the month. but, again, across the continent, as you see the death toll rising, in large part is because these health systems are cracking. and the health care workers are taking the virus home with them. and so that is why you need this rapid test. it's a concern here in a country that has seen 600,000 people volunteer to be part of the national health system as the country starts moving forward. but, again, as we look at spain and italy and we look at what the health care workers there have gone through and the numbers that have died, it's all the more important that countries around the world, specifically the united kingdom and the u.s., keep their health care workers safe. that, of course, means that very important ppe gear, as well. >> it is so astounding and surprising to me how many countries were holy unprepared for this pandemic. it seems like there is going to be a major reckoning after all of this is said and done and we're able to emerge from this. cal perry, stay healthy, my
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friend. great to see you. still ahead, some positive news out of california as the state's governor signals social distancing measures there appear to be working in the effort to stem the spread of the coronavirus. your first look at "morning joe" is back in a moment. your first " is back in a moment. you try to stay ahead of the mess. but scrubbing still takes time. now there's new powerwash dish spray. it's the faster way to clean as you go. just spray, wipe and rinse. it cleans grease five times faster. new dawn powerwash. spray, wipe, rinse.
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as significantly as you're seeing in other parts of the country. >> some good news coming out of california. and, of course, as you remember, that stay at home order being issued well before the rest of the country in the san francisco area. let's check in, again, with nbc meteorologist bill karins who has been tracking some of these covid-19 numbers for us. and that curve, bill, and some good news coming out of california considering the fact that we have all been following these guidelines now for some time here. >> yeah. california has the most people, 45 million people. so everyone would expect that state to have the most cases, likely the most deaths just based on the population. but that hasn't been happening. let me get into the numbers and show you where we're at right now. yesterday, we broke our record for the most new cases in one day that was 26,000. yesterday, we had over 29,000, almost close to 30,000. right now, we're about just shy of a quarter million. this is about a 14% growth rate. this means every five days, we're doubling this number. so if it doesn't slow down in
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the next five days, we will reach half a million cases by next week. new york, of course, added 9,000 new cases yesterday, new jersey was over 3,000. louisiana almost doubled their previous record which was a little above a thousand. yesterday, almost 3,000 new case necessary louisiana alone. then michigan, louisiana and pennsylvania, of course. everyone has been watching that with the older population there. and then the late start they had to see where they will rank. and it was interesting that they made the top six yesterday. and as far as the regional graphics go, there's the new cases yesterday. the highest growth rate right now is in the south. it's now not in the northeast any more. the northeast is about 12%. the south is about 18%. so just, again, to give you a comparison, it was growing fastest in the northeast. now it's kind of shifted a little bit to the south. let me give you an updated forecast for the weekend. today it's an ugly day from new york in regard into new england.
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watch out in areas of south texas for severe thunderstorms. as far as the weekend forecast goes, it looks like the east coast clears out on saturday. a few storms in the south. by the time we get to sunday, much of the eastern seaboard still looking good. i know a lot has been made about the fatality rates. right now in our country, we're a little above 2% of the positive cases that result in death. compare that to italy and spain, they're around 8% to 10%. but not every state is equal. 4% rates right now in washington, kentucky, michigan and oklahoma. those are the highest fatality rates in the country. >> bill, thank you for tracking that for us. appreciate pit. still ahead, following a record week of unemployment claims, we'll get a preview of the latest jobs report due out later this morning. plus, american manufacturers, they're struggling to meet the demand for protective gear to fight the coronavirus pandemic. the stories driving your business day, coming up. ies drir business day, coming up.
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the navy announced thursday it has relieved the captain who sounded the alarm about coronavirus infections aboard the uss roosevelt. captain brett kroiser who wrote a four-page letter to the naval department of crew members, was relieved of the aircraft carrier's command. he'll keep his rank and remain in the navy. it drew attention to the inability of deployed troops to do social distancing and stop the spread of the virus. the letter was public, and leadership began testing everyone aboard. 93 sailors tested positive, and more than 1,000 were evacuated from the ship and isolated in quarters on guam. acting secretary thdiscussed th reason for relieving the captain. >> this is not about retribution but confidence. it is not an indictment of character but, rather, of
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judgment. by not sending the letter to and through his chain of command and people outside his chain of command, by not protecting the sensitive information obtained in the letter appropriately and, lastly, by not reaching out to me directly to voice his concerns after that avenue had been clearly provided to him through my team. that was unacceptable to me. >> we'll have much more on this, by the way. courtney kube will be joining mika and joe. on "morning joe," as hospitals struggle to treat the influx of coronavirus patients in new york city, which accounts for more than half of the over 92,000 cases statewide, we're going to hear from new york city mayor bill de blasio, who will be our guest. plus, the so-called mayor of flavortown. emmy-award winning tv host guy fieri will join the conversation to discuss relief for the millions of restaurant workers affected by the coronavirus. "morning joe" is moments away. my patients
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welcome back. joining us from washington with a look at axios am, editor in chief for axios, nicholas johnston. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> talk about axios' one big thing today. >> it's the rich pull up the drawbridge. as quarantines and stay at home orders have increased, we're almost seeing a tale of two pandemics. as f. scott fitzgerald would say, the ultra rich are a little different from you and me. we're seeing how they're reacting to the pandemic in different ways and exposing someone's differences in socio-economic classes, and how it deals with the fallout from the coronavirus. when talking to real estate agents in vacation spots, we're seeing a flood of wealthy people moving to vacation homes. folks with second and third homes are moving there quickly in the hamptons, west palm beach, martha's vineyard, cape cod. real estate agents are saying folks are offering six-figure sums to lock down vacation homes so they can stay in to ride out the pandemic. other headlines are in the hamptons, certain grocery stores
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have been ransacked by the number of people flooding in. some billionaires have been contacting mega-yacht owners and having for months long rentals to ride out the pandemic on sea. we're seeing private planes landing at places like martha's vineyard and cape cod. the local mayors of these places are pushing back on the influx. honolulu, the mayor asked non-essential travel to the island be restricted. new jersey, the governor said people should stay away from the shore. also, rhode island, the national guard is going door to door x lo looking for cars with new york license plates. some places aren't able to handle an influx out of season. martha's vineyard, there are 3,000 hospital beds. medical officials are worried there is an influx of people, growth of infections, and they won't be able to handle it. >> talk about the folks most affected by this. republicans and democrats are concerned about this overwhelming amount of loan demands from the $2.2 trillion
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rescue package. what more do you know about this? >> yeah. big moments coming up for the aid from the stimulus bill, aid for americans and businesses. checks will be mailed out soon to americans. it'll take maybe two weeks for the aid to show up. if you haven't paid taxes regularly, it may not show up until august. there is ongoing concern about confusion among people of whether they'll qualify for the aid. whether they're on social security or disability. some of the emails we get at axios all the time are people asking whether or not they're qualify based on whether or not they file or pay taxes. confusion around that. kicking off today is the small business aid program, run by the small business administration. $300 billion. a lot of banks are telling us they're not ready for this, and folks on the hill are worried the rollout of the program could be like the obamacare website, where it crashed under the influx. we don't know whether the small
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business administration has enough of a system set up to feed the influx of data. we're learn a lot about the success of the stimulus bill the next ten days or so as the programs ramp up. >> seems as of this morning though, things are not prepared to deal with the influx of the loan applications. >> true. >> let's talk also about dr. anthony faw chuci, who has been front and center amidst the pandemic. being a major part of the coronavirus team. what are you hearing? >> there's a new star on the internet. you know how we love to track data online at axios. our news have new data for us, showing anthony fauci, the head of the nih infectious disease, is one of the most popular people on the internet. running up third, only behind speaker pelosi and president trump. fascinating thing about this, almost all the mentions are positive. everyone is writing great things about him. some of the stories are even glowing in their regard for sort of how important he is to this pandemic. if you digged in deeper, there's still is a partisan split for
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how people talk about fauci on the internet. democrat-leaning sites, the stories mostly focus on how he is contradicting the president or warning dire outcomes from this pandemic. you go to republican-leaning sites, a lot of the stories are about how fauci is praising president trump. even in this moment of national crisis, our partisan-leaning shines through on the internet. >> i'll bet when watching the coronavirus briefings, a lot of americans are tuned solely to what dr. fauci is saying with regards to the developments of this thing. >> his approval rating is off the charts. 77%. >> wow. nicholas, thank you. great seeing you. we're be reading axios am in a little bit. you can sign up at signup.axios.com. that does it for me on this friday morning. i'm yasmin vossoughian. "morning joe" starts right now. it's the individual acts of tens of millions of californians that allow me to say the following. the numbers in the state of california are growing. the number of positives, certainly, are growing and, tragically, yes, the number of deaths, 203, have grown.
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but the icu numbers and the hospitalization numbers, while they're growing, are not growing as significantly as you're seeing in other parts of the country. >> do you have a message for the other governors who have not taken these strong measures, these extreme measures? should everyone be issuing these stay at home orders? >> message is this, what are you waiting for? what more evidence do you need? if you think it is not going to happen to you, you'll never regret overcompensating at the moment so you're preparing people for meeting this moment in the responsible way. there's no better intervention. period, full stop, none, than physical distancing. we talk about social distancing, but it is physical distancing. stay connected, but you have to be physically apart. foundationally and fundamentally, we know, can bend the curve, save lives, and ultimately get people back to work and get society back to some semblance of

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