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. good day, everyone, therefr msnbc headquarters, welcome. it's the mountain nobody wanted to climb. new information about the apex and how far new york is from reaching it. what we learned from the sunday talk shows about the amount of supplies and why the next few days may be the hardest yet. >> it's going to be the hardest week of our lives. >> that's why we have stockpiles of strategic supplies, whether it's masks, gowns, ppe, ventilators, all those things we need. >> this is going to be a bad week, unfortunately, if you look at the projection of the curves.

we're going to continue to see an escalation. >> a stark view from an emergency room doctor about why the er is the worst place to be in new york right now. a virtual convention, a new suggestion coming from former vice-president joe biden. we begin with breaking news on the coronavirus pandemic. there are over 319,000 cases across this country. 9,038 people have died. as those numbers surge to stark new highs, a new warning today from the white house. the surgeon general sounding the alarm on what is expected to be a very grim week ahead. >> the next week is going to be our pearl harbor moment, our 9/11 moment, it's going to be the hardest moment for many americans in their entire lives. >> as several states approach the apex, governors make their final plea to the administration. louisiana's governor edwards says that state will run out of

beds and ventilators by the end of the week. defense secretary esper says if necessary, the two navy ships being used as hospitals may start taking coronavirus patients. >> with regard to the comfort and mercy, we sent those ships up several days, a week ago. they also arrived ahead of need. we're prepared to open up -- them up to covid-19 patients as necessary. >> let's go to breaking news from new york. governor cuomo wrapping up his daily briefing. he says there may be signs of home. the goff flovernor did have a l bit of a positive tone. what all did he say? >> reporter: he laid out a lot of numbers this morning. a lot of numbers had people raising their eyebrows wondering whether or not we're getting close to that apex or some sort of plateau. he started off by saying the bad news is that the number of deaths has raised in the state

to 4,100. that's up from 3,500 yesterday. he says that over the last couple days, if you look at the numbers, the number of deaths appears to be hovering around the 500 to 600 mark. he says that looks like it could be a plateau. it's too early to tell if it's significant. he also laid out a lot of other important numbers during his press briefing. take a listen. >> total number of new hospitalizations is 574, which is obviously much lower than previous numbers. that's partially a function of more people being discharged. but you see, icu admissions are also down. the daily intubations down slightly from where it was. again, you can't do this day to day. you have to look at three or four days to see a pattern. discharge rate is way up, and

that's great news. >> reporter: that discharge rate, 75% of those who have been hospitalized by covid-19 so far. it's great news. the governor said, whether it's a peak or a plateau is something that has been debated by scientists. so we really don't know how fast we will come off, even if we are at that place, how fast we will see the numbers lower or if we're at a plateau, how long will we be at that plateau, that will be significant numbers for a long time, which means the system is still very overburdened, it means social distancing, all of those mesher mu measures, they have to keep up. governor cuomo talked about needing a release valve. the javitz could be that release valve. back here at the field hospital, i spoke with an icu nurse who

said they unfortunately had one death overnight. they are still dealing with a lot of issues when it comes to patients needing to get the ventilators, needing to get the proper care right away. situation still very fluid. >> absolutely. thank you so much for that. let's go to monica alba. good sunday to you. we have grim words from the surgeon general. what else did he say as this country is entering a critical time for slowing this virus? >> reporter: very intense warning from the surgeon general comparing the days and weeks ahead to a potential pearl harbor moment, a 9/11 moment in terms of its severity. warning americans that what is to come is absolutely going to be worse than what we have seen so far. he stressed the importance of making your own facemasks at home. he demonstrated and showed

people how to do that if they haven't done so already. that's notable because the president says he is not going to be doing that himself. as the surgeon general laid out how intense these moments are going to be, he also said that if this is the lowest of the low, that means something good has to come on the other side of it, trying to look ahead. take a listen to that from this morning. >> this is going to be the hardest and saddest week of most americans' lives. i want americans to understand that as hard as this week is going to be, there is a light at the end of the tunnel. if everyone does their part for the next 30 days. >> reporter: note the word everyone there. the surgeon general also had a warning for the governors who in their states have not yet declared stay at home orders. there's a handful left of those. we're hoping to hear more today as the thinking continues about what they're going to do there those particular states. as the surgeon general laid out, if everybody doesn't participate in the social distancing, in wearing facemasks you make at home if you have to go out in

public, it doesn't matter the efforts as much of other people. everybody really has to do their part. they couldn't be stressing this in a more serious way. it's a more intense tone than we have heard in recent days from the top health officials here at the white house. >> it is. monica, thank you for that. joining me now, dr. natalie azar and dr. patel. she's the former health policy director for the obama administration. welcome to both of you. dr. patel, you first. we just heard some good and some bad. there's potentially light at the end of the tunnel as stated by the surgeon general. but also this may be one of the saddest and hardest weeks for americans this week that we are entering into right now comparing things to pearl harbor, 9/11. what do you make of that comparison? do you think it's going to get that bad? >> absolutely. probably not just for this week. but for the next several weeks. that's simply because if you

were tracking cities across the country and the doubling rate and especially in neighborhoods in detroit, new orleans, dallas, we are finding the delays in testing and stay at home orders are now kind of catching up with us. this is going to be probably not just a devastating week, but probably several weeks. because we will see this rippling through the united states. >> dr. azar, you were probably listening to governor cuomo saying the numbers are coming down to the icu, those admitted into icu and up for the numbers of being released from the hospital. interpret that. what's that mean? >> yeah. i think it's important for people to recognize that a change from one day to the next is not a s a pattern. it's true for the last number of days -- i think probably close to a week now, the rate of hospitalization -- the rate of doubling has gone down in

hospitals across the new york area anyway. certainly, we want to see the number of icu admissions decreasing and discharge increasing. it's not so much a day to day change but a pattern that's going to inform whether or not we are seeing that plateau that we are all hoping to get to sooner rather than later. >> absolutely. dr. patel, in terms of the numbers, does that mean the critical shortage of ventilators can be somewhat diffused? does it mean if you don't have as many people coming into the icu, you may not need as many ventilators? >> it's possible. here is the problem. we're still talking about a 20% hospitalization rate and somewhere near a 3% fatality or death rate. the truth is that when these patients come in the er and they crash, they crash hard. you never want to be in a situation where you have, quote, just enough.

i think that's why you heard governor edwards and many others say, please send us help. >> dr. azar, when you talk about a patient that has crashed, how likely is it a patient gets a little bit better and then gets a lot worse? i have heard about that from friends of mine who have gotten through on other side of the coronavirus all around the world, they had a day they were feeling better and then the next day awful. >> right. so this is all part of what we're starting to understand about this disease. we wrote about it about a week and a half ago. it's something called the slow burn. that is that it starts off kind of where you can't tell if you have a flu or cold. aches and pains and low grade fever. that i think reflects that we know that the virus has a real affinity for the upper respiratory track, nose and throat area. in folks who start to get into trouble, it's when the virus -- i don't want to lose you.

it's when the virus starts to travel down the larger airway and into the lungs and causes pneumonia. anecdotally from doctors who have been on the front line who treat this, they say that patients present themselves within the first 48 to 72 hours, are they going to get sick and crash and require intubation? or is their trajectory looking better? as we get more case reports and start to understand the evolution of this disease, we can better monitor patients more closely in that critical time period. this information actually came out from the very first case series in wuhan where they showed the shortness of breath happened at five days and s r respiratory distress around seven, eight and nine. this is playing out as we saw back then. >> earlier today, i spoke with an emergency room doctor about list experience treating coronavirus patients right here in new york city. among the things he told me is

that the worst place to be for a doctor or a patient right now is the emergency room. take a listen to this. >> you want to be positive. just stay in the emergency room and inhale all that air for five minutes. i have had patients come in crying from nursing homes. don't take me. don't take me. i don't want the virus. they can't help it because the nursing home sent them there to what i think is certain doom. did it make sense to get tested if you were going to get positive by coming to the emergency room? >> let's be real clear, when he says if you want to get positive, it's not about some emotional thing about getting good news, it's talking about being positive for coronavirus after spending time within an emergency room. dr. patel, if those are the conditions, what can hospitals do to mitigate that? >> those are absolutely the conditions. i think we will see more of that across the country in the coming weeks. number one, ers around the country, including in my neighborhood are thinking about ditching the stethoscopes,

seeing patients through plexiglas or a barrier physically to evaluate patients, using in an emergency room ipads or iphones and staying separate. more critical is we need to get this testing. we have heard about it. it's better than it was a week ago. it's still nowhere near the capacity. people are still showing up as you heard to get tested in the emergency room. we need to start to decentralize the very reason patients are going to the er. >> dr. patel, dr. azar, thank you so much for weighing in. appreciate that. in another unexpected moment at the white house coronavirus brief, the president called the democratic governor of california gracious. the reporter asked, why does it matter? we will tell you how the president responded to that. at 10:00 tonight, we take you into the red zone. inside italy and one city hit extremely hard by the coronavirus pandemic. those on the front lines of the

fight there have a warning for us here. watch our special report, coronavirus, into the red zone, tonight at 10:00 p.m. right here on msnbc.

momentum is growing in congress for another round of coronavirus aid this month. possibly even bigger than last month's unprecedented $2 trillion plus relief package. josh lederman is following this for us. how is this different? when might we expect a rollout? >> reporter: house speaker nancy pelosi is talking about trying to get a bill on the floor as soon as this month later in april. republicans and democrats generally agree on the idea that something more is going to have to be done in addition to that $2 trillion stimulus. they disagree about the urgency. with republicans and some in the white house suggesting we should give a chance for the $2 trillion stimulus to take affect before we start discussing what

happens next. take a listen to what democratic leader in the senate chuck schumer had to say about that yesterday. >> we never expected it to cover all of the issues needed. as this crisis looks worse and worse, we're going to have to do more and have to think in big and bold ways. anyone who thinks this is the last package i think is far -- is in never never land. we're going to need a larger package, a bigger package, a bolder package. >> alex, nancy pelosi in the house has scaled back her initial talks about having a really broad package that would look at things beyond the immediate needs of coronavirus. instead, what she has been discussing is something that would focus on several items, including a second round of checks to americans who are expecting those cash payments as well as more money to states and cities whose own budgets need shoring up. she's talking about extending some of the coronavirus benefits that have been passed such as

unemployment insurance as well as those small business loans. >> josh lederman, thank you for that. perfect setup for my next conversation. joining me is jackie speer. welcome to you, congresswoman. i'm glad to talk to you. this phase four bill, how soon might that happen? who do you think needs to be included? do you agree with the points josh was ironing out for us? >> i think immediate aid to americans is what is critical. i think that's what the speaker is focused on. there's no question we have to do more. the stimulus that we have put out is certainly good. but so much of that money is not going to be received by individuals for weeks, maybe even months. we have to find a swifter way to get these cash payments to americans swiftly. >> listen to the surgeon general speak today. he said there's a light at the end of the tunnel if everyone

does this part, referring to washington and your state of california. the california curve is different from that of new york here and new jersey. has the goff flovernor stemmed tide? what more needs to be done in california. >> in the bay area, all six counties have been in a shelter at place, stay at home order for three weeks. i think the governor's actions have been extraordinarily sound. he has taken responsibility as our president will not when we have not been as successful in getting our testing out into our communities. but he has shown great leadership. and courage. it takes courage to do things that people don't want us to do but we need to be protected. >> president trump, uniquely, offering some rare kind words on the california democratic governor yesterday. let's take a listen to what he

said. >> i must tell you, the governor of california has been gracious. the job we have done and all of california. >> why does that matter if they are gracious or not? >> it doesn't matter. but i think when we have given as much as we have given to new york, somebody should say -- >> you called him leadership with regard to the governor, talked about his courage. apparently gracious. is there something to be said about how the governor has not clashed with president trump throughout this crisis? >> you know, i don't even want to go there. the president of the united states does not have the luxury of having people kiss his hand. what he should be doing is thinking about the american people. when governors speak out because they're not getting the ventilators they need, when they're not getting the personal protective equipment, that is a life and death request. the president of the united states should respond to it. he cannot take criticism at all.

he calls reporters nasty when they ask probing questions. all of these governors are walking on pins and needles for fear that they will lose resources if they don't say something nice about the president. this is a sick situation. >> yeah. i'm going to leave that conversation with that because i don't want to talk about it anymore for the same reasons. nonetheless, we have the democratic national convention pushed back to august, as you know. former vice-president joe biden says we should think about alternatives amid this crisis. take a listen to that. >> well, we're going to have to do a convention. may have to do a virtual convention. we should be thinking about that. the idea of holding a convention is necessary. we may not be able to put 10, 20, 30,000 people in one place. that's very possible. let's see where it is. what we do between now and then is going to dictate a lot of that as well.

>> what do you think about the prospect of a virtual convention? >> i think it has to be a serious conversation. what we have seen in singapore is when they have -- were down to zero new viruses and started opening up the island, what happened? they started to see it increase another way. we have to prepare ourselves for a second wave of the coronavirus and a third wave. i don't think we're going to have a vaccine in the next 18 months. maybe in 18 months. before then, we have got to be very careful about putting people in large groups together. i think it would be reckless for us to do that. >> looking at the long game here. california democratic congresswoman jackie speier. stay healthy. the crippling impact of the coronavirus on the casino business. now to coping in america. a festive scene in new jersey. a couple who had to postpone their wedding got a surprise

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updates on the coronavirus pandemic. new confirmed cases in new york have pushed the total in the united states to almost -- well a little more than 320,000. more than 9,000 people have died. democratic presidential candidate joe biden is pointing fingers at the trump administration for the way it handled the outbreak. biden says the obama administration took measures to address this type of crisis. >> we set up an office -- a pandemic office within the white house. we expanded cdc. in other countries so we could be -- observe, see when things were coming, how things were moving. the president dismantled almost all of that.

he drastically cut the budgets for the cdc. he didn't follow through on any of what we suggested was a real problem. >> this as medical experts say next week could be the worst we have seen. dr. birx urging americans, stay inside. >> the next two weeks are extraordinarily important. that's why i think you have heard from dr. fauci, from myself, from the president and the vice-president that this is the moment to do everything that you can on the presidential guidelines. this is the moment to not be going to the grocery store, not going to the pharmacy but doing everything you can to keep your family and your friends safe. that means everybody doing six feet distancing, washing your hands. >> in the uk, queen elizabeth will deliver a rare address tonight. the 93-year-old queen will address the nation's response, recognize those suffering and thank front line workers.

it will be the fourth of her nearly seven-decade reign. the state of nevada has seen a major upswing in the number of coronavirus cases there. that first case was reported a month ago today. now it has more than 1,700 cases. nearly 50 fatalities. like most states, nevada issued new quarantine restrictions for its 3 million residents. joining us now, nevada democratic governor. i know you issued the stay at home order last week. it runs i believe through the end of this month. what finally convinced you to do that? >> i have to correct you. we didn't issue it last week. it was three weeks ago. i believe it was march 17th that we said we had a stay home for nevada campaign. we closed all the schools. we closed casinos. we closed non-essential businesses. we instituted a lot of the order then. we formally call it this stay at home. it was a stay at home order in the middle of march. >> that is terrific news.

what about las vegas? how is it abiding by the ortdde? you closed down the casinos. what else is going on there given the hospitality industry that drives the city? >> it was a difficult decision to turn off the lights and close casinos. we put 200,000 people out of work when that happened. we instituted regulations for non-essential businesses. we limited gatherings to less than ten. we instituted the six foot rule. majority of people are following. but there are still some o outliers. we plead, please stay home. social distancing makes a big difference. we closed parks and playgrounds. our police department is enforcing non-essentials. we have everybody trying to work together to make sure wompeople stay at home. it makes a difference. it's frustrating when i drive

in, my staff brings me in that you drive by a playground and there's still ten kids playing basketball or a half a dozen kids hanging out. that's a problem. we need to stop that. >> i saw it yesterday in my hometo hometown. i couldn't believe how many people were out walking around. it was shocking. with regard to the amount of money being lost, all the revenue from the casino industry and those couple hundred thousand jobs you had to shut down at least temporarily, put that in perspective, the kind of affect that might have on nevada. >> i can't even begin to look at the economic disaster that we're going to be facing. it's going to be enormous. it's going to be enormous. what i'm looking at is we're continuing to have an uptick in positive cases. we're continuing to lose more lives every single day. the lives are more important than the money. i have no economy if i don't save people's lives. right now, my singular focus is on saving lives. >> amen to that.

your priorities are right. what about washington? what is the federal government doing to help your state? >> we have asked like every other state has asked for supplies from the national stockpile. we haven't gotten any tests. i listen. i'm on the governor calls every week with the president and v z vice-president. we have done that. the president told us to do that. we are making our own testing kids in northern nevada and distributing them. we don't have resources. we can't get masks and ppes. i put together a task force. private citizens have raised over $10 million. thank god they have done that for us. they are buying on the open market. we're putting them in warehouses and activated the national guard to distribute the resources to our hospitals and health care centers and to the first responders. he said go out and take care of yourselves. that's what we have done. nevada is a small state but we're doing what we can and punching above our weight to try

to protect all the people. >> in terms of being a small state, do you find yourselves competing against other states to try to get access to the ppe supplies that you need? are you paying more than you would anticipate for them? >> i think we're being a little more creative. we're going to supply chains that they are not using. we cannot compete with the new york and california and michigan. we're just too small. you get on calls and they're asking for 10,000 ventilators, 25,000 ventilators. i have been begging for 450. 450 and i can't get that. we're asking, we're asking. the federal government is in a tough spot. everybody is asking for the same things. on this call, 54 governors when you count the territories. every one of us is asking for the same things. ppe, ventilators and test kits. >> before i let you go i want to play what the president's son-in-law jared kushner said that got a lot of attention. let's listen to that.

>> the notion of the federal stockpile was it's our stockpile. it's not supposed to be state stockpiles. we encourage states to make sure they are assessing the needs, getting data from their local situations and then trying to fill it with the supplies we have given them. >> what's your reaction to that? >> well, we are the united states of america. we're in this together. the federal stockpile, as he is calling it, is the citizens' stockpile. it's all the folks in the united states of america. that needs to be shared so everybody gets it. assessing those needs and prioritizing those is a difficult situation. but it's the federal stockpile paid for with taxpayer money. everybody needs access to those resources and hopefully that that's how it will be treated. we're one country. the states are working together. i'm trying to work in concert with my fellow governors. >> all right. keep on keeping on. >> if i could just give a shoutout to our front line workers, doctors and nurses that are showing up every day in

difficult situations. we put a group together to come out of retirement. they have done a remarkable job, whether it's doctors, nurses, teachers, truck drivers, grocery store clerks, they are our front line and they're the heroes in this. >> absolutely. we will applaud them. thank you very much, governor. best of luck. a native american community in arizona is calling on the federal government for assistance as the coronavirus outbreak threatens their population. let's go to vaughn hillyard joining me from phoenix. what are the leaders of the navajo nation asking for? >> reporter: this is where the emergency is taking place in regards to covid-19 here in the southwest. you are dealing with a population base of about 173,000 folks that live on the navajo nation, which is the largest tribal land area in the united states. in fact, the land in which the

navajo nation mass is larger than that of ten states. you are dealing with a very rural population, that has a history of an infrastructure that could not deal with what could be largely hit. you are dealing among arizona navajo nation population, 2.5% of residents have tested positive for covid-19. when you look at the rest of the population of arizona, it' it's .33%. in the last week, i have been in touch with not only the navajo nation and fema and the arizona national guard which have conducted four different missions. black ha blackhawk missions to deliver ppe. they are building out a federal medical facility to create additional bed capacity because, frankly, there's a long history,

as anybody would know, when it comes to indian health services and having proper health care, adequate health care resources to service these native american populations. i want to let you hear directly from part of my conversation with the navajo nation leader on what the tribal lands need. >> put us on the radar. we feel like if we're out of sight, we're out of mind. that's indicative the way we have been treated over the years. we don't want the federal government to pit us against one another. sometimes it becomes a competition with money, federal funds come down the pike, that we're jockeying for position. >> reporter: he is the president of the navajo nation. recognized the fact that you are dealing with a large vulnerable population. there are chronic illnesses on the reservation from cardiovascular diseases to high rates of diabetes. these are folks that are in need of care and need of care now. >> vaughn hillyard there phoenix, thank you for

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was streamed online. the governor of louisiana says at least one pastor in his state is not complying. >> i'm still calling upon him to be a leader. he is a leader in the faith community. i'm calling upon the parishioners to not go. it's grossly irresponsible. there's not a setting more conducive to the spread of the virus as far as i know like we have when we have church services with people sitting in close proximity to one another for an hour or two at a time. >> joining me now, the reverend al sharpton. we are practicing social distancing. usually, you are across from me. >> that's right. >> i get it's the start of holy week. very important week. perhaps the most important of the year. these are people of faith. i know you, sir, have been reaching out to your community, you urged people not to hold services. do you think this crisis requires the faithful to trust

science a little bit more right now? >> i think that it is not only appropriate to trust science, it's also -- it speaks to who you are as a pastor or rabbi or whatever position of leadership you have. are you concerned about the health of the people that you are ministering to? how do you, for example, on today celebrate the triumph of jesus going into jerusalem as a healer when you are doing the opposite of that, you are risking hurt on your parishioners? how do you celebrate next sunday the resurrection when you are putting people in danger's way? it doesn't even theologically make sense. we have been making this appeal not only from national action network but the conference of national black churches. we had conference calls with denominational leaders saying, please tell all the pastors, do

yourselves on live stream, do your services using whatever form of social media. if you love the people that god has given you charge over, you want to see them safe and protected. >> i want to have you react to this. it has been suggested that there are those who believe that going to church is something they want to do and that it is also god's will that they go to church. what's your reaction to that, to those who have such fervent belief? >> my reaction is i respect their belief. but i would say that the holy ghost does not suspend common sense. god would not make things available to us in terms of knowledge if it was not to be applied. when you see everyone from the pope to denominational leaders in black america agreeing, then i don't think that god only talks to two or three people who are on the fringes of trying to just make some statement that

does not really comply with where the world is going now saying the safest thing is social distancing. i heard one minister say that, i'm exercising my faith. well, faith is also connected to things that are rational. if you have that much faith, you should go to the window in your room and jump and have the faith god will send an angel to grab you. that's foolish faith. people in my opinion can be sincerely misled. the reason we make the appeal to the pastors and shepherds is because some have a cynical use of the confidence people have in them. that's inexcusable. >> amen to all of that. switching gears. there's new data that shows african-americans are disproportionally affected by coronavirus. you have milwaukee, which is the most transparent with its demographic data so far. it shows african-americans are

almost half of milwaukee county's 945 cases. 81% of the deaths there. compare this to when only a quarter of the county's population is black. how do you explain that? >> well, whether we first started getting the data of the most vulnerable, when you hear them say people with pre-existing conditions, well, if you look at the conditions, the health disparities and conditions in black america as compared to white america, in terms of heart conditions, in terms of obesity, in terms of hypertension, all of these are areas that we are far higher index than others. so even before the data came out, many of us in the civil rights community feared that we would over index for coronavirus. i think it's going to continue to see that because where you have the pre-existing condition over index in the black

community, therefore you are going to have the results in terms of the coronavirus. and that's all impacted by we have the least and worst health services than general population. so all of that compounds a real problem in our community. real problem in our community. later today on politics nation i'm having congressman jim clyburn on and we're going to talk about that. clearly we're not equally proect itted in terms of health service so we could not have an equal response when the data is showing we're unequally the ones at risk here. >> i know you have reverend clyburn and senator amy klobuchar on politics nation at 5:00. i'm sure going to give them religion and your viewers as you have mine. thank you, rev. >> moving to the battle of the sprerd of coronavirus. is it the gold standard that other states should follow?

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so californias was one of the first states to see a quick rise in coronavirus cases. here is a look at the current numbers. more than 13,000 confirmed cases there with just over 300 deaths. but some medical experts say the measures put in place there are working to flatten the curve. joining me now from los angeles, emergency room doctor arman dorian from usc verdugo hills hospital. welcome to you. and the feeling in l.a. is what? what are you seeing and how do you account for fact that you have been one-tenth the number of patients and deaths as we've had in new york. we have more than ten times more than you do. to what do you attribute that? >> a governor and a mayor and everybody in the health care system and society and all of california has bought into the

social distancing. there is no question the only advantage on new york is time and they're experience and that is bringing us together and making us realize that this curve is needed to be flattened only by duration. so it is going to happen. we just need to push it further out. >> okay. do you think los angeles residents are afraid something more grim is headed their way. >> i think everybody is on alert. not just from the general public but also the entire medical staff, nurses, doctors, administrators. we're all on alert. the concern is this are we going to fall in complacency because it is ramping up as fast as in new york and so we're pushing it further out. but at what point are people going to break. so right now i think we have everybody's attention and trying to focus on keeping everybody home. >> but it also means that california may be dealing with it longer, is that perhaps the flip side to not having that apex that we expected to see this week in new york? >> this is a great point.

the success, unfortunately, means you'll deal with it longer. you won't have the steep spike. it is a mole hill but that is drawn out and pushes the peak further out which is wearing on people being home. that is the next challenge. >> i would love to check back in with you. california is my home state, los angeles my home town so i'm keenly aware of what is happening through. we'll check back in as things progress there in california. thank you. best of luck. a grim warning from the surgeon general today. as slightly encouraging news emerges from new york. we'll have the latest word on that straight ahead.

good day, everyone, from msnbc health car msnbc today there are over 322,000 cases here in the you the. 9,094 people have died. a new warning today from the white house. the surgeon general sounding at alarm on what is expected to be a grim week ahead. >> the next week is going to be our pearl harbor moment. it is going to be our 9/11 moment. it is going to be the hardest moment for many americans in their entire lives. >> and several states approach the apex, governors across the country make final pleas.

john bel edwards said his state will are run out of beds and ventilators by the end of the week and dr. fauci said the sfrags is struggli-- the admini is saying we have it under control. >> we are struggling to get it under control and that is the issue that is at hand right now. >> the voice of honesty and reason. let's go to monica alba from the white house. pretty stern warnings from health officials today. what else did dr. fauci said, monica. >> reporter: that is right. severe and intense. and dr. fauci put it plainly telling americans the worst is still yet to come. and we've heard so many dire warnings but what seemed to be a little bit different today was this this is more urgent. there is no other way to put it but it is a plea from dr. fauci and top health officials stressing to americans this is the time to act. take a listen to how dr. fauci

put it this morning. >> this is going to be a bad week, margaret, unfortunately. if you look at the projection of the curves of the kinetics of the curves, we'll continue to see an escalation. also we should hope within a week, maybe a little bit more, we'll start to see a flattening out of curve and coming down. so just buckle down, continue to mitigate and do the physical separation because we have to get through this week that is coming up. >> reporter: you heard dr. fauci there telling americans to buckle down. that is really the message with dr. birx saying if you could avoid it, do not go to the grocery store or pharmacy and avoid anything that isn't absolutely essential because that is the only way this will work. and dr. fauci mentioned we don't have exact information on where we are in the moment because the cases you have to remember because of the lag in testing only indicate maybe people who were positive a week ago or

more. that is also what is very disturbing to the top health officials because as we continue to point to a potential apex, in new york that may be seven days away. it might be a little bit more. but the other hot spots emerging or have yet to be revealed that are most concern to doctors like dr. fauci, alex. >> monica alba at white house. thank you for that. let's go to the breaking news and it comes from new york and this is cautiously optimistic news from the governor. he is encouraged by new data showing a lower number of deaths today and lower number of people needing intensive care. cory coughlin is joining me from central park with more on this. let's talk about what the numbers tell us. what do you know about that? >> reporter: yeah, this is the very first day, alex, that new york is able to report a drop in the death rate from day-to-day. yesterday that death rate was over 600. today it is over 500. and he said that could mean that we're nearing the apex or that

we're on some sort of plateau or leveling off. it is just too soon to tell. he said for the last two to three days there have been a pretty steady amount of deaths reported in the 5 to 600 range. whether or not that is significant is too soon to find out. but as you mentioned, the number of icu admissions are down, number of daily intubations down and number of hospitalizations down across the board and in addition to the number of people coming in to be hospitalized, the folks who have left the hospital who were treated for covid-19, 74% have been discharged from the hospital. so that is a great number to look at as well. even still new york is still dealing with, if we are nearing the peak now or we're getting toward that plateau, that means we're at the highest thunumbers the state so far and that could be sustained depending on how long the plateau is and had that

means we still need the resources. governor cuomo spoke to that and gave an update on the amount of beds which was estimated to be 110,000 that would be needed here in new york at the peak. >> i don't -- look, i hope -- i hope we're somewhere near the apex, right. or we're somewhere near the plateau. so i would hope that we don't need anywhere near that number of beds. that's the good news. the bad news is the number of beds doesn't really matter any more. we have the beds. it's the ventilators. and then it's the staff. that is the problem. >> reporter: all right. two prongs to deal with next, alex. when it comes to the ventilators, the governor said he is looking at that approach where he takes some of the ventilators from institutions that are not needing them in the

immediate present right now and then giving them to some of the more overburdened institutions like mt. sinai next to us and including 85,000 volunteers who are now helping and the thousand troops coming in from the federal government. >> with all of the numbers, thank you so much. new jersey has the second highest rate of coronavirus infection in the country. right now the state has seen more than 37,000 confirmed cases and more than 900 have died there. those numbers were quite updated. lindsay riser is new jersey for us. so lindsay, i know you're at the meadowlands ex position center converted into a temporary hospital. does the coronavirus patients go there or is this just for non-coronavirus patients. >> >> reporter: it is to be a pop-up hospital but we saw that

javits center was to be a non-co vid to match the demand. they're in in communication with the governor of new york and they may have to make the facility and change it and also accept covid patients. inside is 250 beds. think of army cots separated by a white curtain for privacy and it has a pop up pharmacy and sink and shower and nurses station and this is unique because this should see a beer ex poe or a dance competition and when you walk around outside you don't notice anything is different. other than two things. first it is eerily quiet out here and two you occasionally see national guard troopers walk out of the doors and also new jersey state police who we see because this is a secure area. but new jersey state police and

the state troopers built this facility out in five to sen -- five to seven days to match the need of the growing numbers here in new jersey. one of the hardest hit areas. and we also know here that there is going to be two other field hospitals in new jersey that will be set up very soon. we don't have an exact date. but just to meet the demand for patients. dr. birx yesterday in the presidential briefing of the task force said they're sending 200 ventilators to new jersey. and also new jersey state officials are very concerned they're going to send out an alert very soon to people from medical volunteers because they fear that the surge in hospitals is just beginning. >> thank you for the heads up on that from see caucus, new jersey. this morning i talked with a new york city emergency room doctor who gave me a powerful firsthand look at what life is like on the front lines of the pandemic. let's all take a look. >> let's talk about what you are

experiencing firsthand. take us inside of the emergency room and show us what you're seeing. >> depends on which day you are asking me. was it three weeks ago when the crowd was well and we're looking for a test that none of us have enough of or didn't have yet because we haven't been delivered them and then giving it to one another already starting in the emergency room two weeks ago but then last week we didn't have enough patients, because they are first come first served and does it make sense to test by coming to the emergency room and being exposed and last week when the patients came in younger and sicker and people were dying, just upstairs when you hear the cardiac arrest and now down to the emergency room and they are dying in the emergency room because it took too long to get upstairs because the beds are full. and the last couple of days that i have patients to rescue from

the waiting room and having so many phone calls with family members about trying to do facetime with loved ones and end of life because they are too scared to come inside and become the next patient the week after. >> dr. sung, when you go through your day, you are focused on the patients but is it at the same time like you're going through this fog? i mean, it has got to be just extraordinary, this whole permeation of coronavirus around you, everywhere you are. >> i have said to patients who come in for a test that look well and they may have it yet. and i say, first of all, we don't have tests. you want to be positive, stay in the emergency room and inhale the air for about five minutes and guaranteed you're positive. becauses everywhere. hospitals have 90% positive cases. >> and dr. sun, what if somebody is in a car accident or breaks a leg or needs an emergency

appendect my, now you don't want to go to the hospital for fear of contracting coronavirus. talk about that and how you're dealing with with people who come in for non-coronavirus issues. >> i think some people are afraid of coming to the hospital before coronavirus and covid-19. just because of various factors. and now we have this. obviously, yes, the hospitals and emergency rooms are hot spots for exposure so it is scary. but car accidents, if you're brought in by ems from a car accident it is understandable you would go straight to emergency room. there are patients that refuse. i had patients coming in crying from nursing homes, please don't take me. i don't want the virus. but they can't help it because the nursing home sent them there to what i think is certain doom. because they are going to catch it. i had plenty of people with ankle sprains who come in and then go straight home by their car and self-quarantine and come back a week later with fever and cough and they haven't been anywhere except the emergency

room. >> that is -- that's everybody's wort nightmare for sure, to go on top of the other nightmares out there. we've heard the president say, doctor, this week may be the toughest one yet. governor cuomo here in new york said the apex is coming in the next seven days or so. could you even -- you could even envision when you expect to see in the next couple of weeks. >> if you're this close to a painting and see the trauma that we're seeing every day, to us if feels like every day is wort than the last and this might as well be the apex because we can't function in the emergency room where my own colleagues are getting sick. some of us are hospitalized or critical ill. i put some of my colleagues on breathing machines already. and not only that, i don't want to say that everything is doom and gloom. hospitals are stepping up. but we're finally setting up field tents to be operational and so that does take a load off in the emergency room and other hospital systems working with one another to transfer patients

out to alleviate the burden and spreading it out. and volunteers coming in. and surgeons come in to work for free and they come in and help us and they've been amazing. so we're meeting the challenge and rising to the occasion for the apex and the next day there is another challenge and it feels like we have to respond to that and it is only so much before we finally crash and that is what i'm worried about. >> dr. sun, talk about you. how many hours you're working every day and when you leave the hospital, how do you know decompress? >> you had just mentioned earlier about a blur. and i've lost count already how many hospitals i've worked in, how many shifts i've done and definitely how many patients i've seen. and it is all a blur in terms of how i move through a shift where it is just -- i can't tell if it was yesterday or four days before other than if it was worse, this was sooner.

and the only factor is was it worse than a day before then it was a shift more recent. when i come home to de compress, it is hard to because when you come home you're constantly afraid that you're carrying the virus on it. you can't sit on the couch and take it easy and relax, i have to take off everything and put it in a bag and make sure it doesn't get inside and take off my shoes and do the laundry and i forgot about my hair and i need to shower my hair and after 30, 40 minutes i'm working at home pretty much before i could finally maybe think about something is wrong but it is not over yet because what if i got it and then the next morning i wake up feeling like i have a fever. which i don't. but it is like ptsd. >> extraordinary. charlie crist joins me next to talk about if enough is being done in florida. and how the pandemic is prompting queen elizabeth to do

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we now think it's probably around the 9th of april before we exceed our ventilator capacity based on the current number on hand. and that we're a couple of days behind that on icu beds to capacity being exceeded. >> we need a few thousand more than we have now. up to 4,000. that is what we've asked the federal government for and over time they've begin us 450 total. now we're looking anywhere across the world to get ventilators. individual states can't possibly do what the federal government can do. we don't have a defense production act. there is no way that we could stockpile in anticipation about a epidemic that no one anticipated. >> some governors making a final plea to the federal government as they struggle and brace for peak crisis. joining me now is florida

congressman charlie crist, previously served as the florida governor and attorney general. thank you for joining me, sir. you were once in the governor's shoes. talk about the situation about all that has unfolded for some described as the states versus the trump administration over the medical supplies. is it supposed to work this way? >> well i think -- thank you, alex, good to be with you. happy holy week and palm sunday. the way it is supposed to work is that we work together. whether it is the state government, local government, great mayors all across our country, governors and of course the president. and congress in conjunction with all of that. i think it was president obama who once said we're not the red states of america, we're not the blue states of america, we are the united states of america. and we always come together in times like these and crises like this. you think about world war ii and when all of detroit, if you will, went from manufacturing

automobile to manufacture tanks and other equipment necessary for the war effort because we were caught in a bad situation where they were caught by surprise. so i think that is what we need. we need to work together, cooperatively, do what is right. there you have governor cuomo in new york obviously a democrat, president trump obviously a republican, but it sounded like they spoke just yesterday again to talk about what they could do together to make the situation better as best we can. and i think that is the main sticking point that we need to talk about and focus on unity and working together and helping -- you know, do unto others what you would have done to you. i love it. i have it on my wrist band every day and that attitude and cooperation and working together and having hope is the most important thing we could focus on right now. >> so is there any reason for politics anywhere in it this or

does it matter and it seems like it will strike, if you are a democrat, republican, libertarian or green party, right. >> there is no room for politics here at all. and god willing, we'll pull all of this together. they talk about the apex coming soon. i don't know exactly when that is going to be. i'm not sure anybody does for sure and they're trying to get projections but it is ironic that the president may say this is the toughest week. as i said earlier, this is holy week. a week from today it is easter. so this is a time to pray. and to look to god, frankly. and understand that having a deep faith, which i do, is incredibly important and to take soleas and comfort in that. i see people are anxious and people have to understand who is in charge and it is not us and take comfort in god. >> let's turn to your state.

your old job, in fact. as the current governor of florida, ron de sant is is facing criticism and what would you like to see if a change going forward? >> well it is a great question, alex. and i've seen much speculation about the local media in the tampa bay times and throughout the state. we're the third largest state in the country so people pay attention and how florida comports herself. so i think that maybe a little bit of a slow start at the outset by the administration here. but i'm encouraged. i want to emphasize those. i've been in those shoes. this is not a time for criticism, it is a time to come together to everything for each other to get through this thing as quickly as we can can. that is what the american people want. that is what my fellow floridians want, i could assure you of that.

i think all of us need to pray for the governor and the president and our country. we're the strongest, most powerful country in the world. we're the richest country in the world. and we're the richest country in the history of the world. if anybody can can take this on and do what is right and get through it very well, it is americans. we're a unique place. a special place. the greatest country on the planet and i'm so proud of how people are working together in a nonpartisan fashion to do what is right for the american people and the people of florida. recently the governor signed an executive order that said that people coming here from new york needs to be quarantined for 14 days or even the tri-state area of near new york. and i think that was a good positive step to protect our fellow floridians and then went further and a little later than i would have liked but he did it and issued a stay-at-home order. it was a little bit unclear, a little bit. about whether locals would have

as much impact as the state would but i think that will get hashed out and through good wisdom and guidance and leadership, we'll sail through this and do so well. and as i said earlier, always paying attention to the creator and his strength and take comfort in that always. >> well then given what i've taken away from this interview and what you described about yourself from your lips to god's ears then. congressman charlie crist. >> well put. thank you. in a couple of hours, the queen will make a speech in the midst of the coronavirus and the fourth time in her nearly 70 years on the throne that she's made this type of special address. let's go to molly hunter live in london. this is a big deal. i mean, she's been on the throne for what, about 70 years. this is only the fourth speech like this. what are we going to hear from her? >> reporter: hey, alex, good morning to you from buckingham palace. and the queen is not here.

she's out at windsor where she is self isolated with her 98-year-old husband prince philip. she's only done this special address, this is the fifth time. she's done it three other times in the onset of the war and when princess diana died and when her mum had diedment we hear from her every year on christmas day and this is different and she feels like she needs to speak to everyone in the nation and emphasize they're all in this together. of course she's 93, 94 later this month and incredibly vulnerable and self-isolated and they did the self-address, special address in a specific room that allowed the one cameraman to be the appropriate distance away. but we expect her to talk about how we're all in this together. we're get through this. a rallying cry of sorts. and she will thank the nhs and

the first responders and she's felt this just like everyone else has, the heir to the thrown, prince charles had covid-19 and is now recovered and working remotely. but she wants to beam into the nation's living rooms tonight and give comfort and i think everyone here wants to hear that. >> right. well she'll be the country's matriarch tonight, about an hour and a half from now. thank you, molly. the essential workers putting their lives on the line where the while of the america is in hibernation. is enough being done to protect mass transit workers. and talking with a doctor who told the white house task force that simply breathing could spread the coronavirus. >> at 10:00 tonight we take you into the red zone. inside of italy and one city hit extremely hard by the coronavirus pandemic. those on the front lines of the fight there have a warning for us here. watch our special report

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updates in the coronavirus pandemic total number of confirmed cases now in the u.s. topping 322,000 with more than 9,000 people having died. governor cuomo announced more than 8,000 new cases in new york alone. but he had some good news, the number of hospitalizations are down. >> that is partially a function of more people being discharged. but, you know, icu add migs ami are down, the daily intubations down slightly from where it was. again you can't do this day-to-day. you have to look at three or four days to see a pattern. discharge rate is way up. and that's great news. >> democratic presidential candidate joe biden said he's

follow the cdc new guidelines to wear a mask outside of his home. he's also weighing options for this summer's democratic national convention still set for august. >> well, we're going to have to do a convention, maybe a virtual convention. we should be thinking about that right now. the idea of holding a convention is going to be necessary. but we may not be able to put 10, 20, 30,000 people in one place and that is very possible. again, let's see where it is. what we do between now and then is going to dictate a lot of that as well. >> and in georgia, the state is under a stay-at-home order but that doesn't apply to beaches an parks. they're still over. the governor reversed an earlier order to keep them closed. he said since the gyms are closed beaches and parks need to be open. well new demands from the transport workers union of america and the transit union promising aggressive action if transit systems don't better protect their workers from covid-19. joining me now, john samuelson,

president of the tw local 100. john, welcome to you, sir. members of your union like health care workers and food services keeping the front lines active and running. you're keeping the city moving but demanding more protection for workers across this country. talk about your demands and what happens if you don't get them. >> yeah, so absolutely. the transit workers in america and all transport sector workers for that matter are the circulatory system so to speak delivering health care professionals and emergency workers right to the front lines of this fight. and unfortunately transit workers have been woefully unprotected and used as fodder in this battle against coronavirus. systemwide, nationwide, there is over 20 deaths with over a thousand positives to covid-19 and when workers fight back, we

can win. and if you saw the front page of the daily news in new york, 250,000 masks are coming to new york city transit workers. we've had success where we fought. so what we're saying, the atu and the tw who by the way represent over 330,000 transport sector workers in almost every major city in america and nearly every state capital is that we will begin to take aggressive action city by city to defend our workers which means proper ppe and social distancing within the system and fair treatment of workers that are sick and certainly line of duty death pay for workers that succumb to covid-19. >> yeah, so john, look, you're seeing the cities running and also providing jobs at this very critical time. has there been any talk of shutting down the system at all? i'll say as a metro-north rider i know you have cut back

significantly there, appropriately so because there were empty trains. but is there anybody saying we need to shut everything down altogether, the subways for example. >> shutting down the buses city by city and not just new york would prove difficult for essential workers to get to work. not only health care professionals and emergency workers but workers that are stocking grocery store shelves and workers that are also producing for society in the moment of this calamity so there is a balance to be reached and we've reached it in many cities where on any given day half of the work force is at home and with decreased schedules to decrease the density. >> john samuelson, thank you so much for what you're doing transporting because a lot of us need to get to where we need to get to. thank you so much, sir. some new cdc guide lines

that everyone should wear a mask or face wofr covering in public after a recommendation from dr. harvey weinberg wrote this for the new england journal of medicine but more importantly he wrote a letter to the white house on wednesday informing them the virus could spread through the simple act of breathing. dr. harvey feinberg is joining me now. thank you for being here. pretty sobering when you say it could be transmitted just by breathing. talk about when and how you found this out. >> alex, there are a number of ways that respiratory viruses could be transmitted. they could be transmitted from the large droplets that you could feel when somebody is shouting in your face or talking to you close up. they could be transmitted by tiny droplets that we don't even see. and even tine iyer aerosol droplets that go into the air and may float in the air for some length of time. all of these are potential

vehicles for transmission of a virus that is in the respiratory track like this sars co-v virus. and i saw they were cleaning off the railings and the turnstiles and places you touch because those drop lesses cou-- those d could settle on surfaces and then you touch them and that is the way this is transmitted -- >> i want to read a quote in the hill. the virus could be suspended in the air when hurricane workers remove protective gear or when staff moves around or when floors are clean and you add that aerosolized droplets could hang in the air and affect someone who walks by at a later time. so how -- how much time are we talking about and does it mean that someone would have had to cough that have the virus and it it hangs there, or someone we

hear about the shedding, you could be walking and it sort of sheds off of somebody who is asymptomatic. >> the studies that have been done on people just from breathing show that we very enormously in the amount of particles that different people produce. so if you happen to be a person who just by breathing generates these tiny aerosol particles more than others and you happen to be infected, you will generate more particles with virus. but keep in mind, this is really important in closed spaces. like the hospital rooms that are are caring for patients an that is why it is important for hospital workers to have that personal protective equipment that shields them from the virus. when you're walking around outdoors, the breeze disburses aerosol very rapidly an that is not an issue for us. as long as we keep the physical distance of six feet that we've been urged to do.

>> dr. feinberg, when you reached out to the white house, did you get a direct response? do you have any indication that they were surprised by what you were telling them? >> the white house gets abundant information from many, many sources. it is own experts at the centers for disease control and the national institute of hnealth, and committee at the national academy that sent the report that you're describing is another group of of exerts that the white house asked us to assemble in order to give them the most up to date and current information on scientific knowledge and that is why we sent the letter. >> i'm glad you did despite the sobering b contents. doctor, thank you so much, sir. thank you for joining us. >> you too. thank you. in the struggle to save lives, a decision that no doctor wants to make but will they be forced to.

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and yet medical experts and some of the manufacturers are predicting that there will still be shortages of tens of thousands of ventilators. is it time for you to level with the american public that there likely will be shortages of ventilators in some cases? >> it could be. you have shortages and it could also be that have some that have way overestimated the number of ventilators they need. >> well as the numbers show no signs of slowing down, the president admitting there could be a shortage of ventilators and doctors are facing the same grim

reality. in an op-ed one doctor asks what if we have to decide who gets a ventilator. and joining me now is the author, dr. daniella llamas, a critical care doctor at brigham and women's hospital. and i know you work at an intensive care unit and the piece about a story about a patient, her husband who over the phone was asking if you are going to take away his wife's ventilator. tell us about that moment. >> yeah, so this moment was at the beginning of the coronavirus crisis, before we were starting to get a surge of patients. and i had a patient who did not have coronavirus but intube ated for pneumonia and sick with cancer and her husband over the phone, because we were no longer allowed visitors in our in tensive care unit which remains true, her husband over the phone asked me if we were thinking of taking away her ventilator because he knew there was a shortage because he had seen this on the news. and that question really shook

me and it shook me because i felt for him and i felt so worried and saddened that a patient of mine and the loved one of the patient of mine was sitting there at home being afraid that we were going to make this decision without telling him. and that i, the front line doctor there the at the bedside, would be making that decision. and i wrote this piece essentially to reflect on my own thoughts about the possibility of this reality but also in a way to sort of reassure and to explain that the front line doctor that i, sitting at the bedside, is not the one making these decisions, these very hard decisions that none of us want to have to make. >> do you think, doctor, that we are headed for that point when doctors have to determine who will get a ventilators, who does not get the ventilator and knowing what the outcome will potentially be which is for some death, how difficult is that?

>> i look at the numbers as do we all. and we are all worried about these coming possibilities and possible realities. i also remain hopeful that these are not realities that we face broadly in this crisis. i think it is unrealistic, however, for us us to rely on that hope. hope is not a plan. and we do also have to plan for these extraordinarily unpleasant possibilities which are hospitals and institutions are doing more broadly. >> doctor daniela llamas, you are brave and a hero in my eyes and many others. thank you so much for your time and writing that very extraordinary op-ed. we all took it to heart. thank you. >> thank you. potentially surprising job cuts could be coming and may include you. and sporting events and concerts. to help our communities when they come back together,

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nonurgent health care workers like your dentists or physical therapists and certain retail workers and some remote workers who believe their jobs are safe. and while the irs tax day was moved from april to july 15th, property taxes are due this month for many americans. the mercury news now reporting that goavin newsom is considerig a payment delay for all property owners. josh is joining me now. good to see you, my friend. first, let's talk about the property taxes. many of them are due. payable to cities across the country in april. with states, though, josh, ordering the businesses shut down with no money coming into potentially pay those commercial property taxes or landlords, for example, with renters out of a job, not able to make rent. if the state is curtailing the ability to make money, do property owners have extra time to make their tax payments to cities within those states? and i'm looking at maybe new york being one example.

>> yeah, i mean every state is having to make decisions about. this at the same time that homeowners and businesses are extremely financially crunched by the crisis, so are those state and local governments. they don't have the same ability the federal government does to just borrow money to cover the short falls that the government is experiencing right now. so a lot of those states and cities at the same time are thinking about, you know, property taxes don't come in, then how are we paying workers? the municipal borrowing market is druptisrupted. it is more difficult to borrow money than some time ago. so it's a balancing act. i think part of what the policymakers are trying to do is set up systems that really encourage people to pay the property taxes if they can pay them while giving relief to people who really can't pay them. part of the problem if you give a blanket delay is that taxpayers broadly will delay paying them including those businesses and the individuals that are not financially impacted to the point they're not able to pay the property taxes. that is the tug of car.

you're seeing that in california where you have a lot of pushes from homeowners and businesses for the property tax relief and at the same time you have the state and local government saying we're not in a position to give that out. the federal government has not done a lot yet to help state and local governments with the cash crunches. that may be something to address in a phase four coronavirus relief bill. if they assist the local governments and state governments when they have their own revenue short falls that, would make it easier for state and local governments to give relief to taxpayers that need it. >> let me get to your article. you mention the workers we forget during a crisis like this one. talk about the other industries that are being side lined by the economics of the coronavirus, josh. >> yeah. so i mean there really obvious things like restaurants, employment anybody involved with live events and other things that involve large gatherings of people. if you work at a nonessential business that is shut down. there are a lot of people out of work. but then when you look at the economy broadly, there are some sectors you might say leak health care, this is creating unprecedented demand for health

care. you do see certain hospitals really trying hard to staff up because of the influx of coronavirus. you have states reaching out trying to get retired health care workers and those sorts of people to come back in and working. but at the same time, even within the health care sector as you noted, dental office has already lost 17,000 jobs as of the march jobs report and now look to the job situation as the week that ended march 14th. that was for the closures that swept over the whole country. you'll see big hits to employment that have already happened. they'll show up in the april data for dentists offices, doctor's offices, physical therapists, those sorts of things. you'll see a lot of job loss in sectors that may not be as impacted by these economic disruptions. then the other thing to worry about and then you have to worry about people running out of money. they can't even afford to do things you can do from home. you may not have customers for your business. >> i have to tell you, all i can say is buckle up listening you to, josh. thank you, my friend. that is going to do it for me this hour. i'm alex witt. alisa menendez is next with the

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