good morning. it's monday, april 6th. everybody, good to see you this morning. we are beginning with those ominous warnings from the nation's top health officials who say we are now entering some of the darkest days of this nation's history. the coordinator of the white house coronavirus task force predicts death around the new york, detroit and louisiana hot spots will all peak at the same time this week. now, while the u.s. surgeon general is comparing this moment to the worst attacks this country has ever seen, watch this. >> the next week is going to be our pearl harbor moment. it's going to be our 9/11

moment. it's going to be the hardest moment for many americans in their entire lives. >> things are going to get bad and we need to be prepared for that. it is going to be shocking to some. it certainly is really disturbing to see that. but that's what's going to happen before it turns around. so we just buckle down, continue to mitigate, continue to do the physical separation because we've got to get through this week that's coming up because it is going to be a bad week. >> are you saying, doctor, that despite the deaths that we may see, that mitigation is working and that you do have this outbreak under control? >> i will not say we have it under control, margaret. that would be a false statement. we are struggling to get it under control. >> this is the moment, not going to the grocery store, not going to the pharmacy, but doing everything he can to keep your family and your friends safe. >> meanwhile, the president

trying to temper those grim assessments describing what he called the, quote, light at the end of the tunnel. >> i think we all know that we have to reach a certain point and that point is going to be a horrific point in terms of death. but it's also a point at which things are going to start changing. we're getting very close to that level right now. and the next week and a half, two weeks, are going to be -- i think they're going to be very difficult. at the same time, we understand what they represent and what that time represents and hopefully we can get this over with. >> and the death toll in the united states is now closing in on 10,000 so far. but the "new york times" is now reporting the death toll is likely higher. doctors now believe that some deaths in february and in early march before the coronavirus actually reached epidemic levels in the united states were likely

misidentified as influenza or only described as pneumonia at the time. with no uniform reporting system, and a continued shortage of tests, some states and counties improvised and at times backtracked in counting the dead. really troubling there. the cdc issued guidance just last week that if a definite covid-19 diagnosis cannot be made by, quote, circumstances are compelling within a reasonable degree of certainty, that it is acceptable to report the disease on a death certificate as probable or presumed. so president trump is once again pushing for the use of an anti-malaria drug to treat the coronavirus. it was the second day in a row that trump touted hydroxychloroquine even though experts say more studies are

needed as of yet. >> the other thing that we bought a tremendous amount of is the hydroxychloroquine, which i think -- as you know, it's a great malaria drug. it's worked unbelievably. it's a powerful drug on malaria. and there are signs that it works on this, some very strong signs. we have purchased and we have stockpiled 29 million pills of the hydroxychloroquine. i just think it's something -- you know, what do you have to lose? you have to go through your medical people, get the approval, but i've seen things that i sort of like. what do i know? i'm not a doctor. i'm not a doctor.

but i have common sense. >> i just want to note that several doctors and experts have noted that side effects of hydroxychloroquine with oftentimes result in death, so important to note that dr. british prime minister boris johnson has been admitted to the hospital for tests days after being diagnosed with the coronavirus. this is a, quote, precautionary step as the prime minister continues to have persistent symptoms of the coronavirus. johnson, who has not appeared on television since his diagnosis on march 27th will continue to carry on his duties as prime minister while in the hospital. also, queen elizabeth delivered a rare televised address yesterday as the number of coronavirus cases in the uk continue to rise there, as well. the queen, for just the fifth time in her reign, addressed the uk and the commonwealth thanking health care workers and those staying at home.

>> and those self-isolating may at times be hard, many people of all fatal and of none are discovering that it presents an opportunity to slow down, pause and reflect in prayer or meditation. it reminds me of the very first broadcast i made in 1940, helped by my sister. we as children spoke from here at windsor to children who had been evacuated from their homes and sent away for their own safety. today, once again, many will feel a painful sense of separation from their loved ones. but now, as then, we know deep down that it is the right thing to do. >> joining me now from london, nbc international correspondent cal perry for us. good to see you this morning. thanks for joining us so early.

let's talk first about the public's reaction to the queen's historic address. >> yeah. i think by and large, people found it very comforting to hear from the queen. they thought she was very direct. the speech and address only lasted four minutes. as you said, only the fifth time in history that she's done it. so you could absolutely feel the weight of history. i think the other thing is that everybody is at home, everybody is at home with the kids. it was a sunday night sxp so if you could wrestle the ipads from the kids, it was a moment of the nation watching this all together. she was direct. it was something we've been missing from many world leaders in the past few weeks and months. unfortunately, just a few moments after she finished, we had that news about the prime minister. so i think the country was on a high for a very, very short period of time and hit again with the reality of this virus.

>> so let's talk about prime minister boris johnson and his hospitalization. ten days after learning that he had tested positive for the coronavirus. not necessarily seeing him in the public system, but knowing that he was still working from home. what more are we learn background his condition as of yet? >> well, as you said, we had that very short statement from his official spokes people over at 10 downing. and they said it was routine, that he had been admitted to the hospital, not in an emergency fashion, but for some routine tests. people here questioning what are the routine tests that they couldn't do at 10 downing? most likely what so many people are having done is getting that chest spray. it was 10 days now since he tested positive for the virus. he put out a video three days ago saying he wished he could leave sloiisolation, but he was

having nagging conditions. as we circle back on the queen, her son, prince charles, was also hit with the virus. we see rotating cast in these daily briefings. we expect an update about an hour from now on the prime minister's health. i think officials were hoping he would only be there for one night. we should find out shortly if he will remain for a second night. >> talk quickly about the efforts there as we've been following to contain the spread of the disease and have the proper ppes in place. i know there have been field hospitals opened up in the london area and throughout the uk to help sort of blunt the blow of the spread of this pandemic. so where are we at as of today? >> as you heard the queen there

talking about how this country conducted itself since world war ii, that people here are very prideful about volunteering. these are oftentimes retired doctors and nurses. we've had the largest field hospital in the world opened up in london. that will start seeing patients in the of course few days. the kern aboconcern about ppe, e than 115 doctors and nurses have died in italy. while officials will tell you here that the hospitals are not at capacity just yet, they add that it's quickly approaching that point. and the national debate about how seriously to lockdown the country continues. it was only a few days ago, if not a week ago, when we sort of went into an initial lockdown stage. as is true in the u.s., some of the parks yesterday were full.

it was very nice in the united kingdom. and that has brought a lot of people out today to say there needs to be a total lockdown. i think the news of the prime minister being checked into the hospital is certainly hitting hard here. people realizing that we're not over the virus by any stretch, that the curve hasn't been diminished where in spain and in italy, there is some hope that cases are sort of dropping, certainly in the uk. we're still on the rise here, yasmin. >> i think hearing news about your prime minister being hospitalized could be soapering for a lot of people. still ahead, the intelligence community watchdog who was fired by president trump on friday is weighing in on his dismissal. what he's saying about his ousting. saying about his ousting.

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of. welcome back. amid the coronavirus pandemic, president trump is defending his decision to fire michael atkinson, the intelligence community inspector general who flagged the ukraine whistle-blowerer complaint that ended his impeachment calling him, quiet, a disgrace. >> i thought he did a terrible job. absolutely terrible. he took a whistle-blowerer report which turned out the be a fake report, fake, it was totally wrong. it was about mication with the president of ukraine. he took a fake report and he brought it to congress. with an emergency, okay, not a big trump fan, that i can tell you. that man is a disagree to igs. >> atkinson issued a statement writing in part this, it's hard not to think that the president's loss of confidence in me derives from my having faithfully discharged my legal obligations a an independent and impartial inspector general and

from my commitment to continue to do so. those of us who vow to protect a whistle-blower's right to be heard must in the ends do what we promise to do, no matter how difficult and no matter how difficult the personal consequences. joining me now, danny sovales. first off, i want to get your thoughts with regard to atkinson's statement. can you talk a bit about what an ig's job is and the legal obligation that atkinson wrote about? >> congress passed the whistle-blowerer protection act back in 1989. but it originally didn't apply to the intelligent community. in 2010, congress created the position of intelligent community inspector general. and the law does now apply to the intelligent community. a whistle-blower can report what they think is an urgent concern to the icig, the inspector general, and that the that's

atkinson. but under the statute, his job is really very limited. he investigates. if there is a credible report of this urgent concern, his job is basically to forward it to the director of national intelligence within 14 days. that is it. that is exactly what he did. in fact, on the 14th day, he forwarded it to joseph mcguire, the director of national intelligence. in a sense, the icig's job in this situation is triage. and the standard or the burden is very low. it's just credible of a report of urgent concern. if so, he forwards it on to the director of national intelligence. and that is really most of his role in this ordeal. so to ask whether or not there was a credible report, look at the massive investigation that followed.

and to say many people believe there was an urgent concern, the president was impeached over it. and the standard there is essentially violation of a law. high crime and misdemeanor. >> so, danny, did he at all step outside of his obligations on the the binds of his job or his position? >> the icig's role was always very limited. he receives the report. he investigates it. he has 14 days not to conclude whether or not this absolutely happened, but just whether or not there's a credible, urgent concern. and then he forwards it. it's as simple as that. so if the president wants to remove him, he can. icigs and inspector generals in general can be removed by the president. even though there are political appointees, it is not a political position. but they can be removed by the president. and generally speaking, he has

30 days, the president, to issue a report for his reasons for the firing, but the president does have the power to fire. it's somewhat ironic that the whistle-blowerer protection act protects whistle-blowers. it does very little to protect inspector generals and particularly the icig who forwardses this report. >> the big question is yes, the president can remove the inspector general, but should he have in this distance. danny, thanks so much. appreciate it. still ahead, we have a lot more to cover, despite cdc recommendation toes wear a mask, president trump won't be leading by example. we're going to show you his new comments about that, come up next. w comments about that, come up next have teeth sensitivity as well as gum issues. does it worry me? absolutely. they are both very much hand in hand. so you should really be focusing on both and definitely at the same time. the new sensodyne sensitivity & gum gives us the dual action effect that really takes care of both our teeth sensitivity as well as our gum issues. by brushing with sensodyne sensitivity & gum at home it's giving you the relief that you need and the control

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peak. we've gotten some good news over the weekend with regard to the deaths in new york city. we had kind of a day of momentary light, hoping that that will continue today. but what are you seeing so far this morning with regard to those numbers? >> the sunday numbers have been iffy. we've had lower numbers on march 22nd, march 29th. you have to wonder if there's less people working in some of the reporting debates. let's take a look at the deaths. we are watching it's still going up rap ideally. we're now approaching 10,000 as yasmin said earlier. as far as yesterday went, we saw a slight drop from saturday. obviously, still the deadliest weekend we've had so far. and there's going to be a lag. that's what dr. fauci was telling us as we go into last week. the cases will apex first and two or three weeks later we're seeing the deaths hitting their apex.

that's why they're trying to prepare us for what should be a difficult next two weeks. new york city, the new york area, half of the fatalities in the area, michigan, you can see, made it up to number two on the list. new jersey, there in they're. louisiana, illinois and california, a lot of those states have been in this top six list over the last week or two. so let's talk about the weather front. the worst of it is standard in areas of california. this will slowly move across the country. rain in l.a., some light snow in the higher elevations. nothing horrible, but even the mountains outside of l.a. getting snow this time of year is pretty rare above about 4,000 feet. so get outside. the flowers are blooming. i know the allergy season is not the best right now. new york city should warm up into the 60s and even new england won't be too bad, either. and looking at tomorrow, that's where we will see some of that

warmth continuing throughout the middle of the country. yasmin, overall with the numbers, the whole sunday thing is iffy. i'll explain better coming up in the next half hour. show you the graph. you can see these big dips on these sundays. >> all right. thank you, bill. appreciate it. so still ahead, a bit of good news coming out of new york as i was just mentioning. what the governor is saying about a decline in the number of deaths from the coronavirus. plus, with states across the country in dire need of medical equipment, the trump administration changes the prescription of the national stockpile. that reporting and much more, coming up. kpile. that reporting and much more, micong up. at papa john's, we want you to know that from our 450-degree oven, to box, to you, it's our policy that your pizza is never touched once it comes out of the oven. and we're taking extra steps, like no contact delivery, to ensure it. but when allergies attack,f any the excitement fades. allegra helps you say yes with the fastest non-drowsy allergy relief and turning a half hearted yes, into an all in yes.

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welcome back, everybody. we begin this half hour with what is expected to be a catastrophic week in new york as the virus apex inches closer. the time period between friday and saturday mark the most grim statistics to date with more than 600 deaths. but there is one glimmer of hope. as that number declined for the very first time on sunday. the amount of people committed to hospitals statewide has slowed. while nearly 75% of patients have been discharged. governor cuomo called the recent shift hopeful which could indicate a much needed pause in the coronavirus battle. >> the number of deaths over the past few days has been dropping. for the first time. what is the significance of that? it's too early to tell.

we could be either very near the apex or the apex could be a plateau and we could be beyond that plateau right now. >> so gearing up for the unknown ahead, president trump has deployed 1,000 military medical personnel to new york. their first mission will be to help overwhelmed public hospitals in new york city. meanwhile, the governor of oregon has sent 140 ventilators to the hard-hit state. and officials at the bronx zoo say a tiger has tested positive for the coronavirus after coming in contact with an asymptomatic worker there. a total of six other tigerses and lions have developed a dry cough, as well, but are expected to recover. the trump administration abruptly changed its description of the strategic national stockpile. the changes made on friday narrow down the fed's role on how it provides life-saving

equipment to states in desire need. the move echo's president trump's stance that the prime minister response lies with the states to manage the coronavirus pandemic. meanwhile, multiple states have reported issues with some equipment sent by the government, such as rotted masks and broken ventilators. the growing frustration is coming as reports surface showing the white house under two months of preparation against the pandemic. according to the associated press, federal agencies largely waited until mid march to begin placing orders for n95 respirator marvegs, mechanical ventilators and for other equipment needed by front line health care workers, as well. jay, good to see you this morning. thanks for joining us so early. >> thank you. >> talk about the strain here on the national stockpile. how is that expected to play out as more states are seeing a rush

of coronaviruscations? >> this goes back to the lack of preparation, obviously. there was some fighting in congress going back to the obama administration about how much funding should have been allocated for this. and now you have the government changing definition and, look, i'm as much in favor of federalism as everybody else, but when it comes to a national pandemic, this is not a situation where you sit back and the president should say, well, the states should start taking care of this first before we step in. if it's a national emergency and obviously the epicenter of this in the united states is new york, then the federal government should sit there and just be making phone call toes governor cuomo and saying, what do you need and how quickly can we get it to you and how fast can we do this? unfortunately, bureaucracy within the government, whether it's at the state or the federal level is kind of a feature, not a bug.

we're seeing the hospital ship is there. it's kind of like one of these things where you have to cut through the republic tape and person a says what do you need to person b and person b says this and they get it done. and the capacity is there. it's a matter of saying we don't have time to do usually checking and is dotting every i and crossing every t. we just need equipment somewhere to get it moving. >> it's interesting to think there is not necessarily that type of a to b scenario and we have the trump administration saying over and over again, if states can get what they need, they should th and do it.

new york state, when you're governor cuomo and you're asking for 30,000 ventilators, it's hard to imagine you can do that on your own without having for help. >> right. if the states can pro cure that on their own, go ahead, but i find it stunning that the president says, well, that's is what they have to do. and then we will step in if we can. it's a situation where governor cuomo can say look, we need around 25,000 from the federal government. the federal government should make contact wherever it can to pro cure as many as it can and send it over there. this is where you also need at this time for the president to kind of bring in people who are supply chain experts to our distribution experts and logistics experts and they are the ones that can provide the knowledge to be able to move this stuff quickly across the country from other states or wherever it may be or even other

countries. >> all right. thank you so much. good seeing you this morning, jay. appreciate it. coronavirus checks, they're on the way, but not for millions of people. while the $2 trillion stimulus bill passed last month will provide much needed assistance, a lot of merngs are still going to fall through the cracks here. joining me now, josh letterman. josh, good morning to you. thanks for joining us. you have some new reporting on this. tell us why so many are falling through the gaps here and which americans don't exactly qualify for these checks. >> part of it is the speed with which congress had to push this las vegas through very quickly and part of it is by design because lawmakers wanted to make sure that this coronavirus money went to people who really need it the most, people whose livelihoods are directly affected by the pandemic. but the result is there are a lot of people who are falling through the cracks and won't get the money. and one of the reasons is the way they set this up is if you're someone who is claimed as

a dependent on someone else's tax returns, you are not going to be eligible for a coronavirus check. so that is leaving people out, such as college students, even 17-year-olds and 18-year-olds who might live with their parents. if they're claimed as a dependent. kids who are 16 and under, their parents will get an extra $5 let you know, but not if they're older. other groups include disabled people who might be dependent on their other relatives or parents for help. if they're claimed on their taxes. also seniors who live with their adult children, they would not be eligible if their claimed dependents on their tax returns of someone else. other groups are immigrants who are in the u.s. who don't have a social security number. so that means nonresident aliens or temporary workers who are in the u.s. illegally. there will be some funds available for the u.s. for children that goes to their

parents, but you're going to have situations that are very complicated like babies who were born in 2020 where the government doesn't yet know about them. because they weren't on their parn's tax returns. also people who made too much last year to qualify but have lost their jobs, they're going to have to wait until next year to get a tax credit after the fact. >> and the loss of the extra $100 to $500 means a lot right now considering where we're at with the economy and joblessness. how soon do you think americans will see these checks and do you think congress will authorize a second round of checks? >> the treasury department says expect them to go out in april to people who got their tax

refunds this year and have this bank account on file with the irs. social security recipients will start to see their money added into their account. starting in early may, the government will start sending out parch checks who peent who don't have a bank account or don't get direct depositit. and as far as another round of checks going out beyond this first round, that is a top priority of nancy pelosi and house democrats as they look to a phase four coronavirus stim e -- stimulus legislation. coming up, south korea braces for a potential second wave of coronavirus. what is behind the resurgence, next. is behind the resurgence, next

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south korea is bracing for a possible second wave of infections. over the weekend, the south yeahan government announced that it was extending its social distancing campaign for another two weeks and push back the start of the school year. south korea's first wave of functions struck in mid february. since then, the country introduced strict social distancing measures to reduce the number of cases. they reported fewer than 50 cases for the first time since the country's peak back in february. but officials warned it was too soon to ease the restrictions and a larger epidemic could strike the country once again. i want to bring back bill karins, tracking the numbers for us. bill, talk to us about this reporting that you're seeing with regard to the numbers, especially when it comes to sunday pes.because you're seeing

some kind of difficulty with reporting some of these numbers from sundays. >> let go right to the gra. so this looks like a set of stairs that you're climbing up. each and every day, we've been getting more and more cases. but there has been a couple of dips. yesterday wet 25,000 new cases. that is the far right bar. look what happened back on march 22nd. we had a dip and then we had a big jump on monday, march 23rd. last sunday, march 29th, we had another step down and another jump back up as we went into monday, the 30th. if the trend continues, we should expect another big number today. where are we at? right now, about a two day growth percentage of about an increase of 10%. so what that means is about every eight to nine days now,

we're going to double the number at that rate. if you remember, going back about two weeks ago, we were doubling the number every two to three days, so the growth rate has slowed way down. eventually, we want this to be a declining rate, not a growth rate. yesterday, the new cases reported, dominated by the new york area, new jersey area, michigan, california, pennsylvania and illinois round out the top six of the states that had the most new cases yesterday. as far as weather goes, as far as this week is going to go, we had that big storm we're dealing with today in southern california. the rest of the country is pretty decent. watch out for severe storms in indiana tomorrow. showers in the northeast on wednesday. by the time we get to the end of the week, we'll be watching cooler conditions arriving in areas of the great lakes. doesn't look like we're going to have any severe weather issues or anything like that. the other thing i have noticed with all the severe numbers over the weekend, because of the death lag, the new cases, we're up to about 3% now of cases result in fatalities. about two weeks ago, we're at 2%

of the cases in the u.s. now we're up to 3%. so still way behind, like italy and spain, they're around 8% to 10%. >> but, again, i think it's important to note because of the lack of testing in this country, we don't actually know how many people are covid-19 positive throughout the country. >> it's hard. >> especially here in finish, they're not testing everybody. there are a lot of asymptomatic folks and people that aren't going to the hospital to get tested. so important to keep that in mind amid all of this. bill karins, great to see you, my friend. still ahead, stay at home orders across the country are keeping the american economy on hold, but imathe stories drivin your business day, coming up. or your business day, coming up

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welcome back. as states continue to compete for crucial medical supplies,

governors from both parties yesterday said the federal government was not doing enough to coordinate distribution. >> we have had circumstances that we're trying to collect our ppe, our protective masks and we've been outbid by we had the. so, yes, that has been challenging for us, but we recognize that the federal government has said, we're you're backstop. you have to get out and compete. it literally is a global jungle that we are competing? >> is that the way it should be? >> no. there needs to be -- like to see a better way, but that's the reality in which we are. >> this is ludicrous, that we do not have a national effort in this. to say we're a backup -- the surgeon general eluded to pearl harbor. can you imagine if roosevelt said, i'll be behind you, connecticut. good luck building the battleships. we need a national mobilization of the manufacturing base of the united states, as we started on

december 8th, 1941. >> well, the president does not understand the word federal. federal emergency management agency. we have a state emergency management agency. if he were right, why would we need a federal emergency management agency? it's because vindividual states can't possibly do what the federal government can do. we don't have a defense act. there is no way we can stockpile for a pandemic in which no one anticipated. yet, the federal government is responsible for doing precisely that. we now know intelligence sources and the best advice that was given was given in january and early february to the president and the white house, and they seem not to have acted at all upon it. if they had started in february building ventilators, getting ready for this pandemic, we would not have the problems we have today and, frankly, very many fewer people would die.

>> not having a national strategy, where there is one policy for the country opposed to a patchwork based on whom wiwhomever the governor is, is something that is creating a more porous situation. covid-19 will go longer and, sadly, more lives may be lost. we all have to do our jobs. we're not each other's enemies. the enemy is covid-19. it has to be all hands on deck from the state to the federal to the local. covid-19 doesn't discriminate on party or state line, and that's why we have to have a national strategy. we all have to be working on the same team. up next, a look at axios' one big thing. on "morning joe," president trump fires the community watchdog who flagged the ukraine whistleblower complaint that led to his impeachment. we'll speak to angus king about that. wel as well as the efforts in congress to provide relief for

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welcome back, everybody. joining us now with a look at ax jo axios am, jonathan swan, political reporter. talk to us about axios' one big thing. >> so we take you inside the white house situation room for what was a highly unusual confrontation on saturday afternoon between president trump's economic adviser, peter navarro, and the white house infectious disease expert, dr. anthony fauci. so i'll set the scene for you. saturday afternoon, 1:30, situation room, around the

table. vice president is helming the meeting. the discussion of hydroxychloroquine, the andrug president trump has been touting that is unproven to fight coronavirus, the topic comes up. the head of the food and drug administration is discussing it. peter navarro, who is sitting at the edge of the room, not around the table but with staff, walks over to the table carrying a giant pilefolders. he drops them on to the situation room table and says that in his research, he's concluded that hydroxychloroquine has, quote, clear therapeutic efficacy. now, dr. anthony fauci speaks up. this sets off a very heated exchange, where he says we shouldn't be referring to it as this. it only has anecdotal evidence. this sets peter that vnavarro o. he starts raising his voice. among other things, he accuses

dr. fauci of -- so he points at the folders and says, this is science, not an ecdote. then he accuses fauci of trying to block the china ban. fauci looks abused. he's been publicly praising trump for the china travel ban. the vice president is trying to mediate this fight. eventually, jared kushner turns to navarro and says, "peter, take yes for an answer." because they'd all agreed they were going to talk about the drug at the press conference later that afternoon and they needed to surge the stockpile, the national stockpile. >> you saw this jonathan, front and center yesterday at the coronavirus press briefing, when fauci was actually asked about hydroxychloroquine. the president basically stepped in front of him and stopped him from giving his sort of anecdotal, you know,

information, or his beliefs on the effects of hi hydroxychloroqui hydroxychloroquine. >> yeah. well, it's not his beliefs. i mean, fauci's objection to the way it's being discussed is that there haven't been any large-scale, randomized, control trials of this drug to prove its efficacy against the coronavirus. so while it's appropriate and tested against malaria, and there has been some smaller studies in places like china and france, some of them without control groups, suggesting there could be some positive effects, there haven't actually been any proper, large-scale, clinical trials. fauci has been very, very frustrated and opposed to the way that the president and navarro have been talking up this drug publicly. >> yeah. he's basically said over and

over, there's only anecdotal evidence here, not hard, scientistic evidence to back up the use of hydroxychloroquine. jonathan swan, great seeing you. >> which was -- >> we're going to be reading axios am. >> thank you. >> thanks. we're going to be reading axios am in a little bit. you, too, can read it. that does it for me on this monday morning. i'm yasmin vossoughian. "morning joe" starts now. >> together, we are tackling this disease, and i want to reassure you, if we remind united and resolute. >> there is a governor i hear complaining all the time, pritzker. i hear him, he is always complaining. >> the attributes of self-discipline. >> only cnn would ask that question. fake news. go ahead. >> of good-humored resolve. >> what do you have to lose? >> we join with all nations across the globe in a common endeavor. >> i have a friend of mine, said he didn't know we had so many countries in the world. 182 countries. >> we may have more still