go to xfinitymobile.com today. hi, everyone. it's 4:00 in the east, donald trump lashing out at the world health organization, threatening and then sort of unthreatening to cut their funding in the midst of the coronavirus pandemic. the w.h.o., the latest target in the president's blame game. an effort that's occupied a great deal of the president's time and energy and which has included blaming health care professionals for hoarding medical supplies, blaming the media for not being nice enough to him and blaming democrats for anything and everything that he can think of. here's the president's attack on the world health organization and his initial threat to limit

our contributions. >> they called it wrong. they call it wrong. they really -- they missed the call. they could have called it months earlier, they would have known and they should have known and they probably did know so we'll be looking into that very carefully and we're going to put a hold on money spent to the w.h.o. we're going to put a very powerful hold on it. >> "the new york times" with a bit of a fact-check, writing this, in effect mr. trump sought to denounce the w.h.o. for the very missteps and failures that have been leveled at him and his administration. public health experts have said that the president's public denials of the virus' dangers slowed the american response, which include delayed testing and a failure to stockpile protective gear. in fact, the w.h.o. sounded the alouis armstrong in the earliest days of the crisis, declaring a public health emergency of sper nation mall concern a day before the u.s. secretary of health and

human services announced the country's own public health emergency and weeks before mr. trump declared a national emergency. the president also deflecting an accusation that he was warned by his own senior west wing adviser peter navarro in a memo that cautioned of a worst case scenario of a half a billion americans dying while at the same time donald trump was talking about coronavirus miraculously disappearing. >> i didn't see him. i heard him he wrote some memos talking about the pandemic. i didn't see him. i didn't look for them either. that was the same time that we should -- about the same time i closed it down. >> at the time when peter did circulate those memos you were still down playing the threat of coronavirus in the u.s., you were saying things like, i think it's a problem that's going to go away. >> it will go away. >> you said within a couple of days cases will be down to zero.

>> the cases really didn't build up for a while. you have to understand i'm a cheerleader for this country. i don't want to create havoc and shock and everything else but ultimately when i was saying that i'm also closing it down. i obviously was concerned about it because i closed down our country from china which was heavily infect zbld but that's not even true. of course as "the new york times" recently reported nearly 430,000 people traveled from china to the united states since the coronavirus first emerged as a concern. 40,000 of them did so after donald trump's travel ban. the president's denials comes as the toll the coronavirus is taking on our country is increasing in scope and human tragedy. today in the u.s., there are more than 400,000 cases confirmed. more than 14,000 people have died. after the deadliest day by far

in the u.s. new york, the largest single-day total. passing 6,000. around the country, more reports on the dispor portigtioportiona african-americans getting covid-19. the trump's campaign shift to blame. white house bureau for the washington post, phil rucker. a new entity, or a new villain to beat up against, often it's the press, sometimes it's doctors and nurses who he says are hoarding or doing something worse with medical supplies. yesterday it was the world health organization, what gives? >> the president is in the

middle of a campaign a campaign to avoid any personal responsibility for the slow actions of the federal government in responding to the coronavirus and a campaign to find others to blame and we saw yesterday him cast doubt to point a finger at the world health organization when in fact the w.h.o. did warn about coronavirus, one of the things that really got to the president from the w.h.o. is when they spoke out against his decision in late january to restrict travel from china, they thought that was not a good use of resources or a good policy in terms of stemming the spread of the coronavirus and it really bothers the president that he had criticism from an international institution which of course he's already inclined to not like, remember, he hates nato, he hates multilateral trade agreements, he hates the united national. >> phil rucker, he has a beef

with these organizations, he has a beef with the media, he has a beef with doctors and nurses, does he ever walk out there with intention of comforting the nation? >> you know, that's an interesting question because he was asked that direct question a week or two ago by peter alexander and he gave a very off-key answer. it's interesting in all of these performances that he's had at these news briefings he's not sounded particularly emphatic, he's not reached out beyond his base, a political game, sort of who's up, who's down in the that moment, who reporter is he going to spar with, because he thinks this works for him. but we're in a different environment right now in a pandemic. where all americans are looking to washington for some guidance and some certainty and confidence that the government is doing everything it can do to

save lives and get this country back on board. >> and doctor, to be fair, some of that guidance and information is coming from dr. fauci and birx and others, but if you could who gives us some guidance and maybe reassurance, these numbers are staggering and the fact that the numbers of death in new york, the highest number yet, that death toll is hard to read. every day. but others say if we near the peak that might be a good sign, just take me through what the numbers mean to you. >> so, we have over 400,000 people who are testing positive and the situation where we don't have enough tests. that probably suggests that we have maybe ten-times as many people who have been infected with covid, if you take the people who are asymptomatic and those who aren't able to get a

test, somewhere 1% of the population has been affected. deaths are certainly going up. the numbers of cases may be reaching a peak coming down, the deaths are going to go up for a while and you think you heard from many people including the president's own surgeon general and dr. fauci that in fact this is going to be the worst week, we'll have a large increase in the number of deaths, but, you know, we may be have some good news that we may be slowing down, if that's true, it does suggest one overwhelming piece of information which is that the physical distancing we recommended, the wearing of masks the, the washing of the hands, closing down of nonessential stores is actually having a positive effect. it's working as it's supposed to work and that's good. what i worry about now is, you

know, and this president, you see he wants to declare victory prematurely, before we put in the infrastructure what's going to be a second wave after we begin easing up these various public health measures and that i think is a serious worry. i would also say -- i agree with phil, you know we have had a lot of attacking. the right-wing media, breitbart, tucker carlson last night, there's a trio, they have gone after tony fauci, bill gates, they attacked me because i said we're going to be in this for 18 months, you can see that they are sort of softening up. here are the villains, it's not the administration's incompetence, so you have this situation where they're going to try to blame other people for trying to delay an open.

you'll have some good news in the next few weeks, we'll begin turning the corner pretty reliably in the data and then you'll have people rushing to open things up and i think it's a very dangerous combination potentially. >> you gave us so much to unpack. dr. emanuel, let me mix some politics with some medicine and ask you for your take on this. this is painful example to it, president george bush was on an aircraft carrier toward the iraq war, with the banner mission accomplished. it does feel like, you just named fox news, right-wing online sites, the president, his closest allies, perhaps getting ready to declare victory. what are the dangers not only to our health by to our psyche

doing that too soon and having some resurgence, what does that look like? >> well, i think it's going to get hard for people to take physically distancing, wearing the masks seriously again. i think a good leader, winston churchill, even ronald reagan would have said, listen, we got the next 18 months, here's what to expect and here's what we're going to be doing in response to that, okay, you can expect that we're not returning to normal pre-covid 18 months. we'll open up a little bit. we'll have to keep this physical distancing in place with modifications and prepare the public for what's coming. there's no preparation for the public, you get this constant, you know, chloroquine is going to work, no problem, you get this thing, i'm sure the warm weather's coming and it will all

be fine. you know, i didn't read peter navarro's memo, we didn't have to pay attention to that. i think the public is not going to trust that -- the administration or the government and not really know what to do and that's a very bad situation. i mean, one of points that i like to make is, the solution here is not a tech-driven solution it's human behavior, it's the old, old millennials' old solution, physical distance, wash our hands, wear a mask, stay at home. it requires trust and people doing it consistently and if you don't trust the government, you don't trust the spruxs you're getting and then you see, wow, none of this is working it could be a real problem to get people to do it for the 18 months. that 18 months, i didn't evinve

that. the white house memo has that as the time line until we get a vaccine. >> phil rucker, 18 months doesn't sound like a number that will ever come out of donald trump's mouth, even if everyone including the vice president becomes convince this is how long this will take. talk about how far apart donald trump is right now accepting the facts on drug treatments, on how long it's going take or the next, you know, the rest of his fourth year in office is going to look. >> nicolle the president isn't thinking about 18 months. he's thinking 18 days. he's eagered to get the economy open. sometime at the end of the month of april. i know from my reporting he's

been facing increasing pressure from his political advisers who think, you know, as these numbers in new york start to plateau, irrespective of what else is out there, the collective pub lek health might be we're on the back end of this. we should keep in mind, it's not his decision. these are decisions that state and local authorities are authorized to make and a lot of the governors that we have been interviewing the last few days, they'll be making their own decisions looking at the risk in their communities. >> dr. emanuel, can you talk about what it must be like for dr. fauci to function, dr. birx to function on this task force where as you just said, you didn't make up the number 18 months, it's based on science and memos and the possession

very much available to the president and the other political leaders, what do you think that co-existence looks like? >> i don't know for sure but i think, you know, one minute the president sounds contrite and he sounds like he really understands the magnitude of the problem, 100,000 to 250,000 deaths, wow, got to physically distance, we takes the public health measures seriously and then he flips back into his usual mode and usual intuition, which is, he said, let's be a cheerleader regardless of the data. biology doesn't listen to press briefings or pressers. biology has a truth to it and you'll be hurt by that truth if you don't pay attention to it and don't try to learn from it. i'm a cancer doctor and this

happens all the time. someone paints a rosy picture for the patient and then the tumor pops back. i think the next serious problem we can see it on the horizon is rural areas in this country. they thought, not coming here. we have one or two cases, no big deal. let me remind you at the start of march, new york had one or two cases, no one was seeing it as a serious problem and literally within a couple of weeks you had thousands of cases, a big explosion and i, you know, if you look at the data we're on the verge of that in precisely the communities that have supported the president hardest and it's going to be a rude awakening because they're not taking it seriously, they have listened to his reassurance and suddenly we're going on have a lot of people

with this virus, with serious medical problems, we won't have the infrastructure there, they don't have that many doctors or hospitals and it's going to be harder to deal with and you know, maybe that will bring reality back even if new york turns a corner or new jersey turns a corner, but, you know, that's -- that's an unfortunate, horrible way to communicate to people by having people who are sick hospitalized on the ventilator and god forbid dying we shouldn't be -- they shouldn't have to drive public policy. we know what the problem is and we do have a grasp of the solution. scientists are working as hard as they can get to get a vaccine. we need to facilitate that. to get more testing out there, get more ppe in place. can fund as much research and make sure that we have capacity

when we get that vaccine that we are all desperate for, i don't see any of that happening. >> it's a scary, scary state of affairs. phil rucker and dr. emanuel. the idea of 4 million americans likely infected based on the number of known cases. that's stunning. dr. emanuel has a new podcast today, check it out if you can. bernie sanders is ending his bid for the democratic nomination. clearing the way for joe biden. his impact on the race and how this shapes the two-man contest moving forward. also ahead -- the people of wisconsin risked their health maybe even their lives, because the alternative president trump said would be bad for republicans. and former secretary of defense mattis rebukes the

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while we're winning the ideological battle and winning the spot of many young people and working people throughout the country, i have concluded that this battle for the democratic nomination will not be successful. and so today, i'm announcing the suspension of my campaign. i see the crisis gripping the nation, exasperated by a president unwilling or unable to provide any kind of credible leadership and the work that needs to be done to protect people in this most desperate hour. i cannot in good conscience

continue to mount a campaign that cannot win which will interfere with the important work required of all of us in this difficult hour. >> senator bernie sanders suspending his presidential campaign today, a campaign that had an indelible impact on the race. "the new york times" says, mr. sanders 878 leaves the campaign having almost single-handedly moved the democratic party to level. he elect try fied a legion of loyal supporters who embraced his promise to lift up those who need it most. he also transformed the way democratic campaigns raised money, eschewing big fund-raisers. in his announcement today, the senator made sure to point out his movement is far from over, he'll continue to gather delegates in upcoming primaries in order to have power over the

party's platform. former vice president joe biden put out a lengthy statement after sanders spoke, specifically calling out the importance of sanders movement and ending with a message to his supporters -- i see you, i hear you, and i understand the urgency of what it is we have to get done in this country. i hope you'll join us. you are more than needed. joining us john huleman and jen palmerieri, this was not the way any thought that anyone would clinch the nomination, but here we are, we're all basically locked down in our homes and bernie sanders, you know, waving a white flag and clearing the way for joe biden to his party's nominee, your thoughts. >> i mean the pry player process started with an impeachment trial and it ended with a pandemic but there was one

constant -- if you go back to where we started at the end of january until now, but there's always been one constant -- democrats want to beat trump. bernie sanders made the decision three months ahead of when he did in 2016 the most important thing was to unite to beat trump. >> bernie is out, biden is in. but donald trump very much, you know, clinging to his bully pulpit in a way i don't think we have seen him do since he's been president. >> an unusual circumstance. an unprecedented circumstance and it does give donald trump a certain kind of advantage in the sense that he's central to this story, you could argue that he's saying things and doing things that will seal his defeat in november or he's saying things

or seeing things that will seal his election. if you're an incumbent president running for re-election, it's always the case that it's a referendum on your leadership and performance. incumbents who are unpopular try to change that dynamic and turn the race into a choice and then try to paint their opponent as unacceptable. that's what donald trump was planning to try to do in 2020, the problem he now has is, this such a big disaster, a crisis, whatever you want to call it, it overwhelms everything else and i can't imagine a world where trump is not ultimately going to be judge by the country on how -- on how he handles this crisis, how he handled it so far and the months in end.

he'll try to discredit joe biden. in tend this is too big a story and too big a challenge, for it not to be the central defining issue of the election in november. >> i think john makes all the right points. i also think that donald trump isn't good at, you know, hiding his strategic, he signaled the hiring with kayleig mcenany, he plans to run on the lie about coronavirus not turning out to be wrong, not months later, not years, it will just disappear miraculously, he's been caught in possession of intelligence and memos from his own ideological soulmate of being warned of this human calamity we're seeing right now. >> during 2016 we did a series of videos on the clinton campaign that imagined what life under a trump administration would be like to try to scare

people. if someone had come to me with the plot line we're living with today i would have rejected it as being too ludicrous, in the middle of the pandemic, the pandemic would be in response to the incompetence of the trump administration and all along the way using is not combatting the virus but how he can use the virus to do what he always do to energize his base. blame someone else. today it's blaming the world health organization for not calling this pandemic soon enough. what can he do to rally his base? and help his friends. the firing of the i.g.s supposed to overlook the spend og of the money from the relief package passed by congress. you know, what's that's going to

be, giving money away to people who may benefit him politically, but and you looked at what happened in wisconsin a very partisan election there. people are risking their lives in order to vote. you know, that's where we waited for the bottom. democrats like me, when the bottom -- we'll hit rock bottom, the trump administration, it feels like this's got to be it. >> never say that. >> i know. i know. >> i started this program like three years ago saying the bottom's calling and wants to know if they're there yet. john, i want to ask you a question, coronavirus is not donald trump's fault. but everything that he has directed in terms of a response that was not quick, that was not

honest and in its early phases, he said in these briefings i was acting as a cheerleader. a few days ago, i was hoping for the best. he's now on tape admitting that he wasn't telling the truth at the beginning of this pandemic. >> right, well, yes, and i think nicolle, we have looked back -- everyone has done the reporting now is very compelling about what was going internally in the white house, we know what he said publicly, we have done video of it at the recount, the biden campaign has done it. priorities usa has made ads for it. the reality is, in that period, in that loss two months really in january and february, the response -- what donald trump did and he directed his

government to do in that period was woefully inaccurate to the task he knew what was about to hit the country. he was being told by people around him. and yet the reaction was incompetent and inaccurate and i don't think it's an overstatement to say that donald trump has -- there are tens of thousands of people who will die in the country, more are still going to die because of his incompetence and lack of leadership and he will try to argue his way out of that and there are a second ago he has some advantages in the sense that he still has the loyalty of his base and he has the podium and be at the center of this story going forward. joe biden has the sense, he's not a governor, he doesn't have an official platform, it's hard for him to be a part of this story in the way that donald

trump or an degree cuomo or gavin newsom is. the challenge for the biden campaign is to prosecute this. he still has this work to do which is much harder to do given the constraints of covid-19. we'll have a close election and we understand what the contours of it are now. it seems to be inevitable about this debate, it's not a fore gone conclusion that donald trump will lose and i think everyone should not look at this and assume because this disaster is evident and the blame that he deserves is also clear that necessarily means, even though it will be a referendum on him that this collection is somehow in the bags for the democrats. >> i don't think you'll find any democrat who takes anything for granted. i think the polls show the head to heads, one of them has joe

biden up by six. one has biden up two. john and jennifer, two of my favorite people around the table. after the break, as the world grapples with the deadly virus, donald trump seems to be quietly carrying out a campaign of retaliation. we'll tell you what he's up to, next. inhibitor is for postmenopausal women or for men with hr+/her2- metastatic breast cancer, as the first hormonal based therapy. ibrance plus letrozole significantly delayed disease progression versus letrozole, and shrank tumors in over half of patients. patients taking ibrance can develop low white blood cell counts, which may cause serious infections that can lead to death. ibrance may cause severe inflammation of the lungs that can lead to death. tell your doctor right away

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there's been an alarming series of actions coming from the white house in recent days which congressman sean patrick maloney encapsulated in a tweet. writing this, in the last week, the president has fired the ic ig who reported the ukraine whistle-blower complaint. smeerd the hhs ig for reporting supply shortages at hospitals. and removed the ig overseeing our $2 trillion coronavirus package. this is a disturbing pattern of retaliation.

former defense secretary jim mattis spoke out and rebuked the president's decision telling yahoo! saying, mr. fine is a public servant in finest tradition of honest, competent governance, in my years of observation ens tif engagement with him as our department of defense's acting inspector general, he proved to be a leader. joini joining our conversation is angus king, an independent. how are you doing and what are your thoughts about this moment in which we live? >> well, the moment is extraordinary. obviously, we're all doing what we can, self-isolating, really two roles here, nicolle, one is the government, the work that we're doing on testing and supporting people on unemployment and small businesses, all of those things, but the key to it is really what

we do as individuals, if we keep ourselves apart that's the only way we can break the spread of this virus. that's what's happening here in maine. i go for a walk once or twice a day with my wife. i'm self-isolating for 14 days. counting down until saturday when i can go home. >> senator, what do you make of what donald trump is doing during a pandemic? the firing in a very sort of dark of night way of the ic ig, friday night late at night part of his retribution tour. it's very hard to get secretary mattis to break his silence. and also, targeted the hhs ig who has a report and survey of hundreds of hospitals on the

shortage of ppe and other equipment. how do they find themselves in donald trump's line of fire during a crisis? >> well, it's terrible. it's terrible for the country. it's terrible for the people of the country and one other item you should add to that list, things are moving so fast, when he signed the c.a.r.e.s. act two weeks ago, he of all the things in the whole bill he accepted the provision that said the ig that was in charge of overseeing the $2.2 trillion of couldn't report to congress. he said i'm not going to allow the ig to report to congress. you add all these things to together. number one, the people that he's letting go are good people. atkinson and fine, they're really good people. atkinson essentially was fired for doing his job. but beyond that, nicolle, this is cutting off the american

people's access to what's going on within their government. whistle-blowers and igs are essential part of our checks and balances. it raises the question, what is the president hiding? why does he want to block people from knowing what's going on within this massive program? i just -- i don't get it and it's really harmful and finally, it's sending a chicago effect to all of the other people in the government who say don't cross this guy or your job is at risk, that's disastrous for the future of the country. >> you know, and i'm still shocked by donald trump and i'm ashamed to admit that. he showed us who he was when he pardon pardoned sheriff arpaio. you raise concern moving forward, one, what is he hiding?

and two, we're at war in coronavirus. and he's purging the government of some of its most gifted, truth tellers, what are your concerns for just the resources available to the executive branch? >> well, one of the ironies of this is, i think in the long run he's hurting himself, he's cutting himself off from good advice, when you don't get straight talk from your intelligence community, xr example, i don't think there's a single senate-confirmed director left when you politicize intelligence you're going to get bad advice. when people tell the boss what he or she wants to hear you're going to make bad decisions. . the president himself will suffer from not getting the straight advice. jack welch said the art of management is looking reality in the eye and doing something about it and what the president is doing is cutting off the flow

of reality to he and other members of his government, it's going to hurt him and the government. most of all, it's going to hurt the people of the united states. >> i have to ask you a personal question, i asked senator kamala harris about what social distancing, self-isolating was like for her, she confessed some of her netflix picks. anything you're reading, are you learning any new technology? i'm new to zoom. >> i had a zoom conference yesterday with 36 family members. that was kind of fun. >> that's impressive. >> can tell you just for their viewers, if they're unclear about the distance of social distancing if you keep the distance of a moose between you and the other person you're in good shape that's the advice from me. >> that's very helpful. i'll remember that at walmart. >> yeah. >> thank you so much. it's nice to see you.

>> thank you. after the break, get ready for more of this. long lines, chaos at polling stations across wisconsin and there might be a solution but donald trump doesn't seem interested. 't seem interested at papa john's, we want you to know that from our

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later. i wished i did an absentee ballot. i didn't there was going to be this chaos. >> to take a serious long look at mail-in voting that's right now. that was a wisconsin nurse who worked a full shift yesterday during a global pandemic, he was then denied her right to vote in that state's primary yesterday because she couldn't find parking in time to get in line. she was three minutes late. wisconsin was a mess yesterday. mail-in ballots going forward might be helpful. but donald trump who voted by mail himself last month, is open signaling will doom his chances at re-election. he tweeted yesterday, republicans should fight very hard when it comes to statewide mail-in voting. democrats are clamoring for it. tremendous potential for voter fraud and for whatever reason, doesn't work out well for republicans. joining our conversation, political stat swris steve

schmidt. he says the quiet part out loud. he conditions his base to believe these outrageous ideas. >> of course, i think that we live in a country where at the end of the day we want everyone to vote and vote easily. when you're seeing these lines in wisconsin not only the public health threat but we should understand that she a threat to democracy and our democracy, our institutions have been undersieged from the moment that donald trump declared his running for president. he talked constantly during the last campaign at a election he wasn't the winner wouldn't be legitimate. he has inferred that all the way along. in the end the american people have to have faith in the democratic institutions of the country that have endured through tremendous crises, through civil war, through world war, through great depression,

it's important to note that all around the world in this era we have seen a recession in democracy, we have seen a rise of the autocracy. when you look at the unemployment rates that are coming we know from history the combination of profound economic destabilization alongside with weak democracies is what fuels the rise of extremism and nobody should think we're immuned to this in this country. when america avoided it we had as our leader franklin roosevelt, who understand through his policies not only was he saving economy he was saving democracy. we have a very different person at the top obvious lly today.

>> yet, to show any capacity to grieve, we have lost thousands of american lives that wouldn't have otherwise been lost for this pan dem zblik failure of leadership is nearly total to t she leads, to give a cold, clear analysis of the facts of the situation. when the british were forced to retreat from dunkirk winston churchill in his famous speech where he said, we'll fight on the beaches. we'll fight on the fields. we'll never surrender. he didn't go and say that the british had had a great victory. he leveled with the people. trump, with his denial of this, is responsible in the end for worsening the problem and causing a lot of suffering. two, he is dishonest. his briefings are profoundly confusing. they're disorienting. they fuel panic. they fuel anxiety. he's uncertain. he's unsteady. he's an unsteady captain of the

ship. he's unable to control his emotions. we've seen him lashing out in anger. we've seen him finger pointing. we've seen him blame gaming. we've seen him exhibiting all of the qualities that you don't want to see in a leader in a crisis and then, lastly, he lacks the moral capacity to lead. he lacks the ability to reckon with the american people and ask them to do something. he abandoned any pretense a long time ago about trying to be the leader of all of the nation. he is a factional leader who's been at war, stoking a cold civil war by one faction of the country against the other for more than three years. and you see all of his incapacities for leadership, which include the ability to show empathy, to show love, and to put his self-interests behind the national interests. we've seen that time and time again. it is who he is. he is a person just profoundly

deficient in the qualities of temperament, leadership, for the capacities that you need to have in a leader for this moment. >> you're right. it is the story of his presidency, just more stark in these times. thank you, my friend. good to see you. >> thank you. after the break bidding farewell to a pair of giants in the music industry. hi, it's jan from toyota. we know how important it is to have a safe, reliable vehicle right now. so toyota is here to help.

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bob dylan called prine one of his favorite songwriters. johnny cash said he used to listen to his music for his own inspiration. his four-decade-long performing career earned him a lifetime achievement award at the grammys. another excruciating hit for the music industry "usa today" reports "saturday night live" music producer hal wilner died this week from symptoms consistent with the coronavirus. he was also a producer of acclaimed artists. it seemed every "snl" cast member had something to say about him. here is how jimmy fallon led off his at home broadcast. >> creative genius. i loved him. so much. everyone loved him. every cast member loved him. we will miss him so much. my thoughts go to his family and sheila and arlo and everyone just take care of each other and

stay safe and we're going to get through this, you know, together. >> thank you for spending some time with us. thanks for letting us into your living rooms during this extraordinary time. our coverage continues with chuck todd right after this break.

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