to we have tremendous -- we have we're the envy of the world in terms of ventilators. germany would like some. france would like some. we're going to help countries out. mexico asked me last night, 10,000 ventilators in a short period of time. i'll be able to help mexico. just opposite of your question, jim, it's not, no, no. it's yes, yes, yes. the numbers are horrible. take a look at the number of beds. we have beds available all over new york. new york being the epicenter. new york has experienced sthij that has been absolutely horrific. i saw heart island yesterday, i saw those people being buried yesterday.

you can speak to mayor de blasio and governor cuomo, people can't believe the job we've done. i give tremendous credit to the military -- a military operation with private people. wait a minute. wait, wait. i give tremendous credit to our military, to the army corps of engineers, to fema, the job they've done is incredible. >>. >> you shouldn't be asking that kind of a question. you should say, you know what, it's been really incredible what's been happening it's the reality. >> what governor -- >> what governor -- >> we have more test than anybody in the world. >> we have virtually every country in the world calling us, asking us, how do we get these tests you have? your testing is the best in the

world. they've done a fantastic job. okay, one more. >> yes, he's still going. two hours and counting. notable that donald trump is still talking after two hours when he's locked in a two day war of words with the wall street journal. "the new york times" quotes lindsey graham saying that the president trump's response to it is greatest danger. hi, everyone. i'm nicolle wallace. it's the fight against coronavirus hits a make or break moment in the u.s. with the nationwide apex potentially just days away, the united states death toll already nearing 18,000 with more than 485,000 confirmed cases across the country. donald trump as you saw took to the podium this afternoon

ignoring the public warnings of some of his closest allies not to do that and leave that podium for the experts to let them do the talking, though trump signaled today he's going to listen to their guidance when it comes to reopening the country, he stressed once again he turned "this" and a widespread shelter in place orders. here's trump in the last order nuancing a new task force focused on reopening the country. >> i call it the opening our country task force, or opening our country task force. the great business leaders, great group of people, say this, jim, way tonight get this open as soon as possible. this country was open to be vibrant and open and not where people are staying. >> are you determined to open it

by may 1st. >> i'd love to open but i'm not determined. the facts will determine what i do. it's important to get the country open. >> trump kept saying during the briefing that he won't rush to reboot the economy if the facts of the spread of the virus don't support it. the washington post reports that behind the scenes the trump's point to rev things up worries expect. the trump administration is pushing to reopen much of the country next month, raising concerns among health experts and economists of a possible covid-19 resurgence if americans return to their normal lives before the virus is stamped out. trump has even floated trying to reopen much of the country before the end of this month, when the current federal recommendations to avoid social distancing -- trump regularly looks at unemployment and stock market numbers, complaining they are hurting his presidency.

"the new york times" reveals just how devastating a hasty re-entry to life will be, lifting those restrictions after just 30 days will lead to a dramatic infection spike this summer and death tolls that would rival doing nothing, according to projections from trump's own departments of homeland security. his political interest could eclipse of public health concerns, trump experts have spent the last several hours, the federal government must not jump the gun when it comes to relaxing social distancing and when the economy does reopen it will be baby steps, not a big bang. here's dr. anthony fauci. >> people say, reopen the government like it's a light switch. we have a very large country

with really different patterns of disease and outbreaks in different parts of the country. so it's not going to be one size fits all. the virus kind of decides whether it's appropriate or not to open. a clear indication that you're very, very clearly and strongly going in the right direction. because the one thing you don't want to get you don't want to get out there prematurely and wind up in the same. >> it remains an open whether the president will continue to heed dr. fauci's guidance. he said the metrics he'll use to reopen the country will did metrics in his mind. that's where we start with some of our favorite reporters and friends. nati nation gnat security reporter for the washington post. plus internal medicine physic n

physician. matt, take me through what you and your colleagues reported late yesterday. >> what we're hearing about the discussions inside the white house is that the president trump really, really would like to see the country begin opening up may 1st. lot of the country is shut down is because state governors have imposed legal forces. president trump and the cdc have just issued guidance. it sounds like from these internal discussions, trump is really pushing them and on his mind is sort of political and economic concerns. some of the economic concerns i'm sure of course many americans share but one of the things that he's private lly complained about these dramatic unemployment numbers and the

sinking economy. >> anyone worried about communities that are most vulnerable are the public health is somehow against opening the economy, some concern that argument, that fiction is taking hold. let me read what the wall street journal warned about. these briefings are, know, all about the president. they're now in two-day war of words with donald trump. where he came back, talked about the ratings. wall street journal felt need to point out the ratings because people are dying. it's a life and death matter for the country and the rare moments that doctors fauci and birx get to stand behind the podium we hear valuable and important information. donald trump, despite the fact his poll numbers are sagging and his allies have said to him

publicly and on tv that these things are a loser, he can't stop talking. >> no, and there's war going on inside donald trump's head. i cringe when he said, the metric, it's going to be his own mind because he's hearing these voices on the outside in the conservative media saying, okay, the curve has been flattened all of this has been overhyped. you have to get the economy back together again. so far we've been fortunate that he's been listening at least for the time being to some of the experts like dr. fauci who warned about the consequences. but who knows where this is going to play out? this isn't a binary choice, you can't bring the economy back without solving the problem of the virus. you can't have a vibrant economy with a virus. the president doesn't have the power to tell governors they

must reopen. no matter what they say the decision will be made by individual americans and businesses. you can't assume they're going to flock back. the worst case scenario is in fact that you prematurely open the country for business, the pandemic comes back and you're left with not only an economy that's still staggering but also a medical disaster in a second wave. >> doctor, i want to get to the facts and we're so lucky to have to do that for us and our viewers, i want to make sure that i understand the connection between the behaviors that everyone's engaged in -- social distancing, working from home, schools being closed and what we're seeing, it sounds like listening to the president that he wants to take away the behaviors but hang on to the results, that doesn't seem possible, does it? >> yeah, hi, nicolle, so good to be with you. the messages seems to be die metry cally opposed, his agenda

seems primarily we need to get the economy back, but that's not the message that doctors fauci and birx and other medical professionals have consistently been given, that we need to keep people safe. we have been through many economic recessions before the economy will bounce back, dead people cannot. remember, there's a projection, a line that dr. fauci used yesterday which is the model is hypothetical, the data is real, that's in reference to the 60,000 death projection, considerably less than the 100,000, 60,000 lives projected to dead is high still but that's because that's 60,000 by the way is contingent upon everyone practicing physically distances,

six feet, stay at home, cover your face, hand hygiene, these are public health measures that people have been practicing in the public health world for decades but in this country the united states, has not really actively embraced a strong public health infrastructure. i'm hoping this pandemic will change that. >> we're waiting for our colleague brian williams to interview dr. fauci. i wonder of the things you hear coming from dr. fauci and dr. birx about the measures the h d handwashing and social distancing, what would a new normal look like? the president's got his led foot on the gas pedal and seems hello bent on doing something to reopen this country in may? >> yeah, and so there's several things that need to take place and so i agree with you and what

other people said, including dr. fauci, we're going to have a new normal. one of the key features is going to be that we need to really, really fund public health and just health agencies, they've been underfunded and if you look at the other countries that have been able to bounce back and sustain a healthier economy and community they actually have a stronger public health infrastructure. they started shutting down borders and physical distancing all of those measures really early on and the testing, we really do need widespread testing. and asymptomatic and symptomatic testing. that will give us the scope of the problem for those who have been recovered that are exhibiting igg antibodies, these are people who can go back to work and maybe start resuming the economy, this can't be

safely done right now because we don't have widespread testing. >> all right, my colleague brian williams is standing by to interview the aforementioned person at the center of all of this, dr. fauci. hi, brian. >> hi, nicolle. thank you. we've been able to work out a hookup between us and the national institute of allergy and infectious diseases, dr. anthony fauci. thank you for joining us. i'll begin with the president last spoke, we're talking 50, 60, 65 maybe, he was talking about a death toll of 50,000, 60,000, 65,000, people may very well latch on to that figure, does that match the best models and projections you have as of

right now? >> brian, you might remember and i have made the statement multiple times that the original models that we're fashioned were based on assumptions about a variety of aspects of the virus of the population of the exposure. those original numbers said, anywhere between 100,000 and 200,000 deaths in the united states. well, as i have said many times when you collect data the way we have, mostly due to the fact that we've been doing mitigation very, very well, that when the data starts coming in, the data always trumps the model. you come back and you re-look at the model. we have this data it doesn't have to be 100,000 to 20,000. if we do what we're doing and do it successfully, that we can do better than that. the most recently examination of

the model with the new data that has been put in says about 60,000. i still think we can do even better than that. i have always said sometimes to the dismay of my modeling colleagues that models are good as the assumptions that you put in. so 60,000 is where the model sa saying now. let's see, maybe we can do even better than that. >> president seems to think he can give a back to work kind command as a practical matter, it's local, state and business by business, this quote emerged from today. you don't need full testing. doctor, what other metric can you use to know when for anyone it's safe to go back? >> yeah, the point that the president was making when you said full testing i think the discussion said you want to test everybody in the united states for antibody, not whether

they're infected or not, that's where some confusion. testing someone that's infected is different. testing antibody, it gives you the idea of the number of people that have been exposed and infected and actually recovered. when you get an idea of you know those people who very likely would be protected put into a situation where they might be exposed. that's part of a multifaceted way of things you'll need to come back and make a gararad ya comeback. we're not going to have testing for everybody in the country tomorrow. it's going to be gradual process, starting withen the next week or two, we'll be able to scale-up the kind of antibody testing to give you a good feel for what the penterance is.

>> in your perfect worked, if dr. fauci ran the country would you test 327 million americans? >> you know, obviously, you'd like to know that, that's not the primary thing right now the primary thing is to essentially turn the corner on those areas that are hardest hit the new york, the new orleans, the detroits, right now, we're seeing the possibility of upticks in other areas right here in the washington, d.c., area, and baltimore, that's thing you want to do right now. in a perfect world as you said, of course, as we get months from now and we have a literally unlimited amount of test for antibody, of course it would be very interesting to see and hopeful to us how many people have been exposed and immune.

>> doctor, i know you took on this question from the podium but i wanted to pass you, channel 4 back home in new york, our wnbc, along with the associated press is recording a massive undercounterin covid-19, a massive spike in cardiac arrest deaths, they are up 400%, do you -- do you think that covid-19 is being underreported as maybe a contributor to death but not the cause in chief? >> you know, brian, i don't think that's the case, i'd have to take a look at that data. i'm more than hesitant to start making, you know a judgment on that until i look at the data and find out what the discrepancy is there. right now, this is the first i heard of that. >> what metropolitan areas in

your view need to peak their vigilance right now over easter weekend? >> right now, obviously right here where i'm standing in the washington d.c. baltimore area, philadelphia, houston, st. louis, those are the areas we're looking at to try and make sure they can stay in what we call the controlled phase. in other words, containment. you talked about containment versus mitigation, when there are so many infections and you see the peak we have seen in new york that's in full mitigation, you have a period of time early on when you start to see cases if you can contain you would haven't to go into that feeling and that process of mitigation which is obviously much more difficult because that means things are really galloping along. we have our eye on a number of metropolitan areas that as we get the capability to be able to identify, isolate and contact

trace. those are things we're keeping our eyes on right now. >> if you had your way and i know to november, seems a long time from now, would people in all 50 states have the right and ability to vote by mail? >> you know, again, brian, that's not my area of expertise, i'd hope by november we'd have things under such control a. >> for folks who may need to venture out by dent of their lives and their jobs, can you -- is the wearing of gloves as vital as the wearing of a mask is, personal contact as virulent way to transfer as airborne. >> obviously, we have said it many times but thank you for

giving me the opportunity to repeat it. an airborne illness, washing the hands, shake your hand, put your hand on the doorknob, frequent washing of hands, a six-foot distance if you possibly can, and as you heard from the cdc and dr. redfield and others n a situation where you might want to go outside and you don't have the capability of staying six feet from someone, if you go to a grocery store or a drugstore the wearing of a cloth mask could be helpful because what that really does not only protects you but you protect somebody else under the assumption that you might be infected you don't infect someone else. and back and forth. the washing of hands, the six-foot distance, and when you can't do that, a wearing of a cloth covering on the face.

something that you could make yourself could be help zblfl just a few more and i'll let you go. have you reached any judgment on immunity and recurrence? a textbook post-covid question. >> if this virus acts like many other viruses that we know, when you're infect and you recover and you have a good response you're protected from exposure and infection with the identical virus, that's a presums that's based on a lot of good data. what we don't know -- we don't know how long that protection would last. and we don't know the relationship between the tighter of the antibody and the degree of protection. we're making an assumption that i think is reasonable assumption but we want to make sure we prove that and that's what we're

in the process of doing. >> a number of americans have come to regard you as their representative in all of these meetings you attend and the briefings where we see you, and i'm looking for you to pledge that when this decision that, again the president is setting up as his unilaterally to get back to work to reopen the country, when it comes about, you're willing to stake your job on giving him the best and most truthful answer you can. >> brian, i've always done that. i've done from the beginning. i continue to do that. i give my best judgment based on scientific data. he listens. it's his choice. as you said, and he said, it's his choice. i'll certainly continue to give my honest assessment of the scientific data that's really the evidence that i base my

judgments on. >> did the president really suggest that even jokingly you go back to new york and run against aoc? >> that took me by surprise. he was definitely joking. >> but it did happen? >> yeah, he was joking around. he was kids around. he was being facetious. >> dr. anthony fauci, we wish you and your family with all that's going on a meaningful easter holiday. thank you very much for joining us. >> thank you, brian, and the same to you and your family. >> thank you. brian is with us now. brian, some remarkable headline there is. let me ask you, you really got him to some things he might not wanted to have on air. very nice to test the whole

country. empl i don't know how any company sends its work force back into the work place until it does th that. >> that's the question, nicolle, and it's been suggested because we all know the history of our country and what we have accomplished as recently as in the last 100 years when we put our mind to it, why not a plan, why not a manhattan project challenge all the companies in private industry, come up with a test, come up with a simple, portable test, painless that would give us an idea of where we are. the president so many times during that briefing, nicolle, con tended we're the leader in the world, testings of like, less than 1% of our population so far, almost a quarter of those tested have tested

positive which tells you not that the virus is flagrant but most of those people tested were presenting symptoms. it's still fair to say we have no earthly idea how many americans are walking around with this virus. >> brian, it was remarkable he said to you on tv, a tape, that by november he hopes we'll be back to november so an election can take place that we're used to seeing elections take place? >> as they say, his lips to god's years, wouldn't that be nice? the political debate over voting by mail or not will continue. >> brian, thanks so much for booking that interview. and for spending some time with us. we're grateful. >> thanks for having me. >> >> after the break, donald trump took to twitter today to defend his appearances at the coronavirus briefings. as democrats unveiled a

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>> this is the kind of useless national response that's going to result in the deaths of thousands and thousands. >> no, i don't take responsibility at all. it's tape like that, those clips of donald trump in his own words at official public events, that represent either donald trump telling deliberate lies or showcasing a gross misunderstanding of what a pandemic is, that have his allies people like lindsey graham very worried today. "the new york times," quote, i told him your opponent is no longer joe biden, it's the virus. at mr. trump's re-election campaign, staff members have closely monitored internal polling data showing an erosion of the gains mr. trump made immediately after he put social distancing guidelines in place.

advisers are torn between knowing that a less abrasive approach would help mr. trump and their awareness that he can't tolerate criticism. you know, jim, this is such -- you were covering the white house in which i served in the post-9/11 period, a president is always part of the story, but a president tries to stay out of the way and i think it's remarkable that the president's allies and friends are talking to people like you putting out these warnings, raising these red flags in the news about how much harm trump's doing to himself. >> yeah, i think the ad that democrats put out is november foretold. did he do enough early enough to prevent deaths? the other side, you saw today, donald trump building the argue thamt he wants to build, he's treating the virus like it's a human being, he's saying the invisible enemy.

menacing, almost impossible to defeat. he wants to be the superhero to defeat it. i alone will make the decision about when we go back to work. what's happening behind the scenes, the argument behind the scenes is nuance than some of the coverage, lot of ceo s., economic advisers, at some point if we don't get back to work a lot of these small businesses cannot recover, the economic damage will not only be profound but irrecovable. there's the debate. no matter when you go back to work, you have a trade-off you'll have a resurgence of the virus until you have a vaccine. no one will tell you you'll have a vaccine at scale within the 18 months.

there's always going to be risk. i think it's going to be states that are going to decide whether or not they're through the worst and whether or not they have the hospital beds to be able to treat the ill, whether or not they have testing that gives them the self-confidence to tell their people they can slowly go back to work. he was right, the biggest decision of his presidency. the second biggest. the first was one he did fail on was not to move quick enough in december and january to equip the hometownspitals, the build stockpile of protective gear, to get the type of testing. >> charlie, there's an undercurrent of donald trump's sort of psychological need to be out there, i mean, we cut away from it. he was talking for over two hours today, it's not the country's interest, he's not

dispensing public health information that falls to dr. fauci and dr. birx, it's not in his political interest, his poll numbers are dropping from the beginning of this crisis and his opponent if you will, or the test will be his conduct that's in the past, it's his failures in january, february and march th that ad we ran was from nancy pelosi action committee, a democratic campaign already has enough material to make the case about trump's failures, he seems to be digging his own grave with these performances. >> yeah, and ultimately, fate will be decided not what he said but results on the ground. what is unemployment rate? what's the death rate? the american people paying attention are seeing the real donald trump. i mean, his allies and his campaign numbers are worried

about all this. this is president they wanted. this is the president they support and now enabled and now they're stuck with him. now we're seeing all of his insecurities, his parade of grievances at a moment when the american people wants the reassurances the right decisions are being made. i think that the more he talks the more material he's going to give and the more people are going to sit back and go, okay, maybe we wanted to drain the swamp, but did we want this man at the oval office at this particular moment? i said this before, but in 1980, ronald reagan was elected president by saying are you better off than four years ago? american people are watching, can i take four more years of

this. >> dr. fauci said to brian williams, he said by november we'll be back to normal. a sense that's the field the national election will be played on. >> i don't think anyone has a clue. you have to prepare for the worse. prepare for the possibility of doing mail-in voting. legal interpretations and what the courts think of the state to adjust its laws. donald trump talking for two hours -- yes, like the president should be communicating about how the country is responding in an emergency. one of the problems that people don't pay attention to, that's your best and brightest behind him up to 90 minutes, two hours, i'm up here talking about axios,

i also watch run the company. if i sat here for two hours, employees could be like, what are you doing? as a leader you have to communicate, but you have to do the work, ultimately he has to make that decision and the doctors around him are in coordination with the governors and the medical professionals in the states so communication's great, great we're getting transparency, we're probably getting too much, what conservatives are saying, it e' fine to let the medical professionaling speak, you speak for two holes, that aren't directlied to this crisis, what they're seeing is basically we're going back to the norm. the last five polls show donald trump's favorability around 43%.

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all right, guess who said this, speak the truth, speak it clearly, speak wit compassion, speak it for empathy for what folks are going through. the biggest mistake any of us can make in these situations is to misinform particularly when we're requiring people to make sacrifices and take actions that might not be their natural inclination. words of ood advice that former president barack obama offered mayors of cities in a virtual meeting. words of advice that stand in stark contrast obviously to the contradictions and bluster we heard recently from president trump. joining us now "the new york times" editorial board member. talk about obama's decision to say very little but to say something during this moment, it

seems to mean a lot the to a whole lot of people. >> give it credibility basely how he governed. we saw president obama go through the ebola crisis, go through trayvon martin, any number of crises where he made it his -- not only his habit he made it insistence with the people to be show compassion. when people are rit rally are adjusting to a world they never imagined having to stay home not being able to work, wondering what their future is, the last thing you need is the head of state giving you misinformation and playing to something other comfortable feel the safety and the security of you and your family economically. not choosing one or the other based on his politics.

so i thought it was a very heavy statement from a person who demonstrated that, had barack obama been another type of president i don't think it would have landed with the weight it had land zbld also new reporting in politico about former president obama's role in the democratic primary and things he's done behind the scenes, talk about -- talk about his power and influence now, which in some ways from way outside the democratic party seems to be as much power as he held as an incumbent president. >> that's right. it's interesting. i think, you know, there's been a lot of discussion about why joe biden isn't actually getting covered in the same way during this pandemic, he's doing and saying a lot of the right things you'd want a leader to do and say, the reality is, when it comes to power, barack obama still holds that mantle for a

lot of democrats, lot of americans, the decision that he made years ago to really speak sparingly is working to his benefit at this point because people who care what he has to say are hanging on to every word. i think the fact that he's using during this crisis is smart, helpful. now the democratic primary is over, he'll be able to really throw more support behind not just joe biden but also truth and facts and try and stand to a real contrast. >> the rev, the fight for truth is real, you don't have to spend much time on right-wing media to know that the fight that's being depicted the way we're being depicted people who cover doctors fauci and birx and their

warnings about abandoning social distancing, they're depicting this binary debate between opening the economy or as attorney general barr said, hiding under our beds. there's going to be some need for referees. john mccain used to play a role like that when george w. bush was president, sort of refereeing with a whole lot of credibility and outside the partisan lane. my question to you is, is it enough? i mean, some of the disinformation channels so hard wired into trump's base it won't matter? >> i think a part of his base if not most are hard wired but i'm beginning to feel that his base is not big enough to sustain him and i believed what you've been talking about today about his poll numbers dropping and other matters is the realization that most americans are not his base. i think we forget a lot, he lost

the popular vote by 3 million votes and when you have people sitting home, not knowing where their future is, not knowing when they're going to get $1200 when they have $2,000 worth of bills and you have the reality setting in that their children can't go to school they don't need a circus act, they need somebody who will do realistically and level with them even if it means you'll have to suffer through this two more months i want to know what i'm being told is true. people are living reality. lincoln said, you can fool the people some of the time, you can feel all of the people some of the time. but you can't fool all the people all the time. i think that time has come. when people are saying, wait a minute, enough of the show, what about my life and when do i return to some normalcy or a new

normal? >> mara guy, with that sip lated, should president obama and michelle obama who enjoy some of the highest popularity rates among the largest number of people, george w. be doing more? people are hurting. people are suffering. and they're not sure that they're getting the straight story from the white house. >> absolutely. i think we're in a situation where anybody who can provide leadership moral or otherwise really should. what was great about what former president barack obama did is in talking to mayors he is talking to local government which is actually helping people on the ground now. what we have across the country is in the space of -- because we have a lack of leadership at the federal level in terms of this crisis we have governors stepping up. oregon is giving ventilators to new york. people are sharing, i think, an

indiana city vowed to give tests to new york city. i mean, this is the kind of leadership that you would hope to see at the federal level as well. but really local governments have stepped up immensely. and most americans actually do live in cities, too. it's really important. and i think barack obama gets that. >> so great to see your faces. thank you for spending time with us. after the a break a little something to make you smile after a long, long, long week. behold, our ancestors created six strings.

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as a kid i grew up on mr. rogers and some of the best advice he ever gave famously came from his mother. when the news gets scary, look for the helpers. you will always find people who are helping. this is normally the part of our show where we honor people who have passed, who have lost their lavs to coronavirus and we'll continue that but today we

wanted to celebrate the helpers. from the halls of nearly every hospital in america to the small kindnesses shared between neighbors, proof that tragedy and hardship can bring out the very best in people. >> thank you! ♪ it's up to you new york >> a lot of tenants crying and saying they can't pay. >> so he decided this month to waive rent for everyone, everyone, 210 tenants, and he is not collecting. >> he spent $225 of his own money to buy jennifer's family

the groceries they need. >> some of our kids don't have those meals if we're not in session. they might not have that breakfast. they might not have that lunch. we want to provide that to them. >> to make the doctors and nurses feel like family i thought that we could make letters to show them that we care about them. >> he's holding up his sign giving out free gas to nurses. >> i just love them and i want them to know that. >> come back with the same hope tomorrow. because that's what we do. and that's i think the only way we come back is we think tomorrow maybe we'll be better. and we hang on to that. [cheers and applause] ♪

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