it survived a trial, prison. i don't know what else there could be. that's all for this edition of "dateline." i'm craig melvin. thank you for watching. first up on msnbc, taking its toll, the latest numbers on the coronavirus and whether the drastic measures taken across the country are actually working. on the streets and cities and the towns and on the front lines. >> it does seem like it's slowing down. >> dr. earnest patty as in hard hit bronx. >> let's hope we reach that

plateau soon. >> behind the lines a reality check what's happening in hospitals and whether doctors and nurses see any signs of hope. new questions on when the country might reopen and whether it'll be safe. is there any realtime line? new word on the relief checks, when you might be getting one and how to get you the money faster. and farms are scrambling to keep up with consumer needs for eggs in some parts. we'll tell you why the sudden demand. >> good morning to you. it is saturday, april 11th. >> i want to show you tiemds square again on this saturday morning because it is always striking to see it at least in the last month, not a soul, but a police car going through at this early morning hour. now, this morning nearly half a million confirmed cases of the coronavirus in the u.s. more than 18,000 people have died, that number is increasing by more than 2,000 at least on

friday alone the highest number of deaths the country has seen in a single day since the start of this outbreak. >> there are some new indicators of had when and how we might start to see a return to normalcy. president trump says he's convening a new task force that will guide his administration on reopening the country. dr. anthony fauci says antibody tests could be the first step. >> antibody gives you the idea of the number of people that have been exposed and infect asked have actually recovered. so when you get an idea of that you'll know those people who very likely would be protected if they were put into a situation where they might be exposed. that is part of a multifaceted way of the things that you might need to come back and make a gradual return to normality. >> a live report from the white house in just a moment, but first on the west coast which really has been ahead of the

curve, ahead of anywhere else with containment efforts. los angeles county extending the stay at home order at least through may 15th. l.a. health officials say social distancing measures have been effective in slowing the spread but must be contained and maintained in order to keep that trend moving in the right direction. officials are warning these restrictions could actually last into the summer. >> and the irs launched a new tool to help people receive their coronavirus relief checks. they're calling it a is a simple tax return and geared towards low income american said and those who aren't required to file taxes. secretary steve mnuchin says those checks will start going out by the end of next week. >> monica, good morning to you. the president also duressing the issue of reopening the country. what's he saying now? >> as we make our way to april to the end of when of those cdc

guidelines continue to extend, the president says he's going to be evaluating a lot of factors ipterms of reopening again in his his words parts of the economy to reopen some of those sectors with a bang. the president was pressed yesterday how he might approach that chase. take a listen to what he called one of the biggest decisions in his presidency and how he's making that decision. >> i don't know how i make a decision, but i'm going to surround myself with the greatest minds, not only the greatest minds but the greatest minds in numerous different businesses including the business of politic and reason, and we're going to make a decision, and hopefully it's going to be the right decision. >> can you say what metrics you will use to make that decision? >> the metric is right here. that's all i can do. i can listen to 35 people. at the end i've got to make a decision. and i didn't think of it until yesterday. i said, you know, this is a big

decision. >> reporter: stressing the enormity there weighing on the president. and some of those people of course he will be consulting will be doctors birx and fauci and they talked yesterday on the issue of testing. and because there is no widespread testing mechric yet, there isn't really an antibody test yet which you did hear dr. fauci say was critical, we don't know how they might be able to reopen the country and dr. birx has said she isn't sure we have reached the peak. as you begin to see some encouraging signs oats important to remember that. on the economy the president said he is going to debuting a second coronavirus task force, this one focused on reopening the economy, and he said he's going to be telling us who's a part of that by tuesday. but that signals where the president really wants to be going in the weeks to come. it's no longer about keeping the country closed and those mitigation efforts which continues to be important.

he's really looking ahead, guys. >> live at the white house this morning. thank you. >> and now to new york city where the mayor joined a tribute to medical staff outside one manhattan hospital. it's become a nightly affair. police officers and firefighters applauding medical teams fighting on the front lines of coronavirus. >> you like to see that. even though masks are covering some peoples faces you know there are some smiles there. the state of new york unfortunately has the largest outbreak reporting more than 170,000 cases and inching closer to 8,000 deaths. new images are emerging of temporary mass burials in new york city. >> live for us in queens at the u.s. tennis center, good morning to you. that center of course is now converted into a field hospital. it's not normally used during the rest of the year, but what

are you seeing there right now? >> reporter: good morning to both of you. things are moving at the tennis center. right behind me the parking lot is setup to take an influx of vehicles set to come in here. and the building right behind that already starting to see covid-19 patients. mayor bill de blasio's office confirming five patients have entered the facility so far, a total of 475 beds once they fully get ramped up and constructed inside and 20 icu beds in addition. that is because we need a little bit of help at elmhurst hospital here in queens, as you know one of the hardest hit if not the hardest hit hospital here in the nation. of course queens in general the burrow that's been the hardest hit in the localer state with 29,000 positive patients so far. but there is a little bit of a glimmer of hope in the state.

scientists now starting to see levels what they think are starting to possibly flatten off. they say hospitalizations are down. the number of icu admissions, not only are they down, they're actually in the negative, which means the number of people leaving the icu is greater than the number of people coming into icu. what does that mean for reopening the state, that is the question on everyone's mind. governor cuomo says it's going to be a slow process and he thinks it begins with testing. take a listen. >> the key to reopening is going to be testing. we need a tremendous mind-boggling increase in volume quickly. we have 19 million people in the state of new york. you'd want to start by testing everyone, right? you'd want to test people who would be going back to work, test people going into nursing homes, test health care workers. but i mean in new york 30

million tests you could use, as many as you can make you could use. that's just new york. that's without new jersey, connecticut, without the tri-state area. then you have california, and just think of the numbers. >> reporter: all right, and right now the state has about 300 antibody tests a day. they're hoping to ramp that up to 1,000 a day by next week and 2,000 a day by the following week. of course it's got to get much higher if we want to get into the millions when it comes to testing. >> that's really the hope for many people right now. right there at the u.s. tennis center, and by the way the u.s. open is still on for august 24th. we'll see if it gets canceled. thanks, cory. the white house officials are calling philadelphia a potential hotspot sfr the next major coronavirus outbreak. >> how is this city preparing for a potential spike in cases now?

>> reporter: good morning, guys. so pennsylvania's rapidly approaching about 20,000 cases and philadelphia has almost 6,000 of those cases, and hoir starting to see that spike already. just yesterday the philadelphia health commissioner said another 33 people died in philadelphia. that's the highest spike in one day for coronavirus deaths. and so the mayor and the health minister are really focused on making sure they have enough supplies, protective gear, and tests necessary for protecting against and preventing coronavirus. luckily the state this week, the governor of pennsylvania put in an executive order that will allow hospitals around the state to share materials into high need, high population areas. that's here in philadelphia because obviously it's one of the denser areas just across the river from new jersey and only 2 hours south of new york city, guys. so i spoke with a nursing homeworker who's concerned about the lack of ppe that is available at her facility. she's up in schuylkill county so about an hour and a half north

of here at a facility that houses 130 elderly residents and she's worked there for 17 years and she told me they're only getting one mask per week when they go into work, so they have to take care of their mask and save it for the week so she's really concerned about the lack of supplies. this is what she had to tell me. >> it's disheartening to know that folks are, you know, without this. and it's not a big item. it's not an item that, you know, that costs hundreds of thousands of dollars we can't get. you know you're working and you come home and you wonder if you have it, did you catch it, did you go to the store and, you know, you just don't know. >> so andrea is expressing that anxiety a lot of health care workers on the front lines are experiencing right now. luckily i heard from the state overnight and this executive order does in fact include nursing homes as well as

hospitals. they need to go through inventory across the state and reallocate where the ppe, protective masks, gowns, that kind of things needs to go. the mayor here in philadelphia very strongly indicating he needs more masks, more rapid tests because otherwise he can't get a handle how many coronavirus cases there are here in philadelphia. he did say yesterday, though, guys this new normal could go through as far as this summer. >> look how philadelphia is dealing with that as they're expected to become one of the next hot spots. now for facts over fears. joining us right now is a senior scholar at the johns hopkins center for health security. thank you, doctor, appreciate your time on this saturday morning. president trump wanting to reopen the economy. he initially wanted easter now possibly next month. is that too soon? >> it depends on what's going on

locally in all the different places in the country where this virus is spreading. we want to make a decision that's based on data meaning what's the prevalence of the disease, how many people are recovered and what is hospital capacity. and then i think you do it in a layered fashion, trying to think about what can be done safely, what can't be opened safely. for example, mass gatherings might be something we don't want to do. however, there may may be businesses that can open so i do think you can do this in a data driven approach as long as we have hospital capacity, diagnostic capacity and the ability to do contact tracing in those locales where things open up. >> a lot of people asking will that help us get back to school and get back to work. tell us about this test. does it currently exist? when will it be widely available? >> yes, we do have tests to determine yes you have

coronavirus antibodies and now yo you don't. we know there are going to be certain levels associated with protection and certain levels that may leave you susceptible. if your antibody level is above this number, then you're immune and you're likely to be able to go about your day without any kind of problems, but we're not quite there yet with aebd testing. but that is one of the ways forward and i do think we will see this soon. >> you have states like washington and california and now possibly new york that have apparently started to flatten the curve a little bit. how exactly will we know, and what do we do next in the next few weeks? and what will it look like for these states? >> so when you talk about flattening the curve what that means is the number of new cases, the number of hospitalizations is not increasing. and we won't quite know when we've reached over the curve and come back down until we look back because you have to know what the trend is and know where you actually are on that curve.

what that means you're going to see less admissions to a hospital, less new cases diagnosed, and i do think you'll see less stress and pressure on hospitals where they are dealing with a majority of cases. this is going to be different ipevery city. it's not all one epidemic, it's a different epidemic in every city. so this is something you will see overtime, and i think it's what we're going to use as a marker to know when we can lessen some of the social distancing markers we have. >> there's some data that shows african-americans are dying at a larger rate. >> it looks like you're having a confluence coinciding with the coronavirus, and it just so happens the risk factors for severe disease with coronavirus are those exact risk factors that are disproportionately in

african-american communities. they may be essential workers, may be unable to telecommute. they also tend to live in plalss where there may be more density, and that can increase the level of infection. >> all of it attidding up. in the meantime there's data that shows hundreds of americans under the age of 50 have died from covid-19. we first thought this virus was mostly deadly for older populations so why are so many younger people actually dying from this? >> while it's true deaths cluster among older people with each decade of life the risk goes up. it's not the case it's impossible for a young person to die. and young persons can have comorbidities that give you increased risk. there can be young people with diabetes, asthma, obesity that put them at risk. it's not everyone is going to be above the age.

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welcome back, everybody, to msnbc world headquarters in new york. we're looking at a live look right now at orlando, florida. the governor there getting a bit of flack recently over some decisions in that state there in regards of social distancing not being as strict as other states. as president trump weighs a big

decision on when to reopen the u.s. economy some countries like sweden never closed down at all. >> in fact since january 31st sweden has recorded more than 9,000 cases, about 800 deaths with fewer than 500 people in icu. >> sweden banned gatherings of more than 50 people, but life other than that is mostly going on as usual. officials say they expect thousands to die from the virus, but their strategy they say will result in a lower number of hospitalizations and a slow, steady spread with reduced risk of a spike when lockdowns are lifted. >> this long-term thing on the low scale with sweden is much more sustainable and would not cost this enormous differences in the amount of cases in health care. >> do you regret not following that approach? is that approach working? >> if we did follow that approach i think we might have 2 million people dead. and sweden is having a lot of

difficulty. >> interesting approach indeed. joining us right now from paris is christopher dicky who's a world news editor with the daily beast and an msnbc contributor. good morning, christopher. so how do you europeans feel about these very different approaches right there? >> i think when they look at sweden they're still curious about how exactly that's supposed to work over the long run. president trump suggested that the swedes are trying to carry out some kind of herd immunity program more or less like the one that was touted by boris johnson some time ago before all of a sudden britain realized they were going to lose hundreds of thousands of people and totally overwhelm their health care system doing that. the swedes themselves say that's not what they're doing. they say that they just are asking people to act more responsibly and trying not to dictate this from the top down. they say it's definitely not a

herd immunity strategy and that basically they're treating people like adults in sweden and they expect people to act like adults. >> and is it working? >> all that said remember that the population of sweden is a little over 10 million people. it's less than half of the population of the broader new york metropolitan area. so we're not looking at the same kind of society, population density. we're not looking at the same kind of situation not only we have in the united states and a place like new york than we have in a many countries in europe, france for instance probably now. >> the rest of the europe meanwhile germany, czech republic, austria all plan to dip their toes in reopening their economies and it could happen as early as next week. is the idea they're further along in this curve? >> well, germany seems to have a pretty good handle at least on

its death rate for a long time. they've done a lot of testing, basic testing there, not antibody testing. and their death rate has been relatively low compared to other countries. but there's a big risk when you've been locked down, which is part of what that swedish official was talking about because being locked down doesn't actually build up any immunity to the disease. what it does is it separates you from the disease. then if you start to open up you enter a world where the disease is spreading again and you don't have immunity, we don't have a vaccine. so it's an extremely dicy proposition. all of these countries that are opening up again, it's going to be a bit by bit. the danish prime minister for instance said it's going to be like walking a tightrope. you go too fast you fall off, you go too slow you fall off. >> denmark is planning to reopen schools and day care centers come wednesday, so very slow as you mentioned. the cdc in the meantime in south

korea reporting that the virus may actually be reactivating in some people who had been cured. what impact do you see this having on europe's plans to have that slow reopening? >> i think europe is looking at south korea, at taiwan, singapore and lots of countries in asia that seem to have things under control and wondering if there's going to be a resurgence. there's two issues. one is a resurgence in a situation like i talked about where people just start going outdoors again, contact with each other and it starts to spread. but the other and it's even more ominous is this thing in south korea when they really don't understand yet, which is they tested people -- in south korea they tested about 500,000 people, and several of the people, about 50 people they tested that were all cleared all of a sudden have this reactivation of the virus. not a reinfection they say but a reactivation. so that's just a reminder about all the things we don't know

about this virus. we don't know how long immunity lasts, whether there is real immunity, and we don't know what this reactivation is all about. >> yeah, that's a good point testing positive a day after those 50 people tested negative for coronavirus. christopher dicky, thank you. new polls on how the president is handling the crisis and the story of how one country is battling coronavirus by using its telephone directory. plus there's new word today on the condition of boris johnson, a key development.

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we're dealing with now, the emotional, physical and psychological burden it's placing on many of my colleagues and myself will only exacerbate physician burn out. we have a real issue at hand. i applause plod those leaders who have stepped up during this time to take the reins and manage this crisis.

i fear those who have died during this pan demming will die as martyrs. but i hope their deaths will lead to a fundamental change and hopefully a gross overhaul of our health care system. a system in which everyone has equal access to care and same level of care no matter the color of their skin, their legal status or whether they've been incarcerated or not. >> a plea for help from front line workers detailing the conditions in the system right now. next alex wit will talk to doctors about their first-hand experience. >> first here are the coronavirus numbers. the total number of cases is nearing half a million and more than 18,000 people have died. in the u.k. officials report prime minister boris johnson is taking short walks at a london hospital after being released from the icu. he was hospitalized early this week after testing positive for covid-19 and it's still unclear how long he'll stay there. back in the united states to

utah specifically taking steps to keep travelers from bringing more covid-19 cases to that state. anyone entering will be required to fill out a form detailing their recent travel history and documenting any symptoms of people with the virus or showing symptoms will be quarantined. >> and in vermont, the popular jp ski resort is closed but officials are making an extra plea to thrill seekers who sometimes climb the mountain to just stay off. >> to deliver an outcome where we can keep as many people safe and alive and healthy as possible. >> believe me the minute we're ready to open up our doors again every person within earshot is going to know about it. >> that reminder as maine got a lot of snow. now to iceland -- i believe that's italy but it's a unique battle with coronavirus which

has left the country's tourist atracks empty. the big question how might ice land help the united states. >> joining us now a risk and behavioral expert. good morning to you. the testing capacity in the u.s. not at the same level some experts believe it should be, so they're looking to iceland for some insight. iceland has reportedly tested about 10% of its population, more than any other nation. one of its findings about 50% those who test positive for the virus are asymptomatic. are you surprised by that? >> i'm not surprised by that. it makes sense as we think about how this virus has a range of symptoms from mild to severe. so you would expect some percentage of that to be asymptomatic. remember 10% of the population of iceland, we're talking about a population of 360,000 people, right? that's similar to tulsa, oklahoma, in the united states. the united states has roughly 1,000 more people than iceland.

so we are going to find as we continue to test, and we have in absolute terms had the most amount tests because our numbers are so much bigger than it countries we're comparing ourselves to. as we begin testing we're going to find inincreasingly that range of symptoms from asymptomatic to really severe. and that's going to be necessary because we can't see this virus. this is a microorganism that you can't even see through a mi microscope. testing allows us to see it. who is symptomatic, who's potentially to become ill, coming out of europe continues to reif force is those over the age of 60 and underlying conditions and that allows us importantly to open up the economy again. once we can see the enemy and we can think of how we live with it and work around it. >> officials in iceland they're not just testing sick people and

their contacts, they're testing at random by selecting names out of the country's telephone directory. >> what? >> yeah, a, they still have telephone books, but they're also using the telephone directory. now, the u.s. is obviously a lot bigger as you mentioned than iceland, but is this the type of testing we should think ubdoing? >> right, so i think the take away from that is, wow, there's still telephone directories. but quite seriously we need to test a random sample because it's from that we will get a picture of what this virus looks like and where it is clustering and the types of people and populations it's affecting. that being said, overtesting doesn't make sense. when we go to the doctor we are asked questions before we have given tests and that's not going to be any different for covid-19 going forward. to initially get a picture how this virus is moving through the united states population, it

will be important to do random testing to predict where it could also create another outbreak, especially as we think about moving, opening up the economy again. we have lessons from germany, sweden, from denmark about how this doesn't have to be a binary narrative of primary impacts and looking at the public health impact in a silo versus the economy. it's not one or the other. we can think about how to protect public health and still get people back to work. we need to look at this bigger picture and be smart about how we now reopen peoples livelihoods. because what we don't want to see is extended lock down that ultimately results in ripple effects that are worse for the outcomes overall. i mean from public health to society to the economy, there's a big picture here we need to consider. >> and we hope many of our leaders are considering that big picture right now and worried about that second or possible third wave. thank you. all right, here's what's

trending now on coronavirus this morning. farmers around the country are being forced to dump extra milk, closed schools and restaurants have cut off demand for dairy and left more than they can use. >> but one wisconsin man is taking advantage of the situation to help the needy. here's reporter boyd hooper from our nbc affiliate. >> reporter: at theelsworth cooperative creamery cheese delivery has gone curbside. >> we've got taco and pizza. >> every sale important to prevent what's happening at other dairies. >> our goal is to process all the milk. we're not looking to dump milk. >> inside the creamery workers are toiling 24/7 turning excess milk into cheese restaurants are open to sell --

>> it's just a waste. >> he took it upon himself to do something. cheese curds being delivered to western wisconsin food pantries. all thanks to a fund hastily launched -- >> this is a great donation. >> reporter: byelsworth milk truck driver rich miller. >> i help the farmers. >> reporter: from his own pocket $5,000 in curd purchasing seed money now doubled by other donations. >> you grab the bull by the horns and he's taking her on, that's just rich. >> reporter: need more proof. when i first contacted rich miller earlier this week he told me he'd have to call me back. he was on his way into the hospital for chemotherapy in his 4-year battle with cancer. >> i've got nothing but time to make phone calls and bug people for money and move cheese and help my farmers. and they supported me for 32 years, i think i can give a little bit back. >> reporter: donations or

purchases through curds finding a way. >> eat cheese at home, boys. >> freaky fresh is that what he said? >> our banks there. what a great idea. a representative from one of the pantries said the cheese will help feed the farmers who have visited the farms more frequently. the demand for eggs at an all-time high. but a north carolina town didn't let that or social distancing stop its annual easter egg hunt. north carolina pastor crystal owens explains how they did that. >> they're drawing eggs and coloring them and designing them, and they're hanging them on their houses, in their yards. some of the families have even put out like little treat bags for kids to pick up. and it's just really cool to see the families that are out walking together and hunting for

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welcome back. we're getting a fresh look this morning how american said view the trump administration's handling of covid-19. generally it's trending down. 47% say trump is doing a good job and 52% say he's doing a bad job. >> the people who feel the president is doing a good job say their big reasons is that the virus is being contained and doctors are getting the supplies they need. but those who feel the president is doing a bad job think the opposite is happening. good morning. we are all watching the same briefings, we're seeing the same statistics so why is there such

a different perspective on what's happening? >> good morning. i think as we say in this polling and other polls that came out this week, public opinion of president trump's handling of the coronavirus pandemic is ticking down at least in part because of the continued climb in cases the united states and the persistent shortages of ppe and equipment for front line medical workers. as this continues, the little rally around the effect we saw from the beginning is starting to dissipate as the pandemic continues. >> and nicholas, in the meantime according to "the new york times" many of the president's aides and some of his allies, congressional allies are increasingly believing tat the president's daily briefings are hurting him more than helping. and they're actually urging the president to let his experts take center stage. i mean you cover all of this. you know this as well. do you get a sense the president plans to step back?

>> i think from what we've seen in these briefings so far it doesn't seem like that will be the case. president trump at times has cut off some of the medical experts during these briefings, and at other times has used them to unload on other grievances about china or former vice president joe biden. so the -- it is unusual to see some of his political allies, even republicans on the hill criticize the way he has handled these briefings, but it doesn't look like that's going to change anytime soon. >> well, in terms of a new potential relief bill we know that senate majority leader mitch mcconnell tried to pass a bill that would add $250 billion to the paycheck protection program that provides loans to small businesses. but senate democrats are blocking the move. they call it a political stupt. instead they presented their own plan which would add money for hospitals and states. that was rejected. what's it going to take to get a

deal, and is now to time to be kind of at a stalemate? >> well, negotiations are going on right now about that bill. and i mean things are taking a bit of a pause through the easter weekend, but going into next week we're definitely going to see more back and forth between democrats and republicans over this. senate minority leader chuck schumer said yesterday that he was sitting down with the treasury secretary to figure out provisions for this, and although republicans want to put through money immediately for the small business funding program, governors are really talking about needing more money for their own budgets as well. >> yeah, the states definitely saying they didn't get enough in that second relief bill. nicholas wu, thank you. traffic jams in front of food banks and hours long unemployment lines. >> millions of americans are out of a job and why the actual unemployment numbers may be a lot higher. yes. yes. yeah sure.

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there are new struggles and shocking realities for millions of out of work americans. more than 6.5 million people lost their jobs last week alone. nearly 17 million americans filed for unemployment since the beginning of march. . >> here's what many of them are facing in florida residents had to stand in line for paper unemployment forms after the state's website and phones were overwhelmed. to california, one food bank was so crowded that cars created gridlock, even blocking highway traffic in san diego there. >> joining us is alexis christoforous of yahoo! finance. only a third of u.s. jobs can possibly be done at home. so which jobs cannot be done at home? it seems they will be disproportionately affected, not only with covid exposure but

possibly losing their jobs. >> reporter: that's right. good morning to you. it has highlighted the stark divide between those who can work from home and those who can't work from home. a large segment of the population doesn't have the luxury of being able to work from home. they are typically in a more economically secure. higher levels of education. full time salaried employees. 83% report working remotely compared to 35% with a high school degree. more likely to be male and younger. two-thirds of them lack a college degree. they are a little less likely to be white, more likely to be black or latino. two racial groups being particularly hard hit by the virus. you asked what areas of the population may have to go out and actually report on the job.

of course our health care workers. god bless all of them for to go what they are doing on the front lines of the virus. but the hospitality industry, restaurant industry, supermarkets. they are getting out and getting to work so we can have food and other essential services. >> bus drivers, subway drivers as well. the images you are seeing right there, that is not a car dealership. those are food bank lines that were taking place over the last week, just striking images there. so many people in desperate need. in florida you had lines as well. people waiting in unemployment lines for hours, unable to social distance in many instances. what are some of the problems that we are finding, alexis. >> it is really becoming or already is for millions of people, a nightmare situation. you said at the top of the segment, 17 million americans, 17 million have applied for

unemployment benefits in the past three weeks. we are looking at estimates for the unemployment rate to hit between 25% and 30%. kendis, when you think where it was before this, 3.5%. so we have fallen far very fast. a lot of folks are saying when they hit the local websites, they are crashing. if they are able to get through, midway through they are getting kicked out. phone calls not going to happen. they can't get anybody on the line. phones are ringing off the hook. many parts of florida handing out paper applications. they thought it was a good idea. they said we will open at 11:00 a.m. people were going to the parking lots at 7:00 a.m. they were completely filled. people jamming the lines. of course no social distancing going on. people exposing themselves to the virus and putting their health on the line. it shows how desperate the situation is for millions of

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