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i'm alicia menendez. it's 4:00 p.m. here in the new york. the u.s. has the most coronavirus cases and the highest death toll in world, overtaking italy now with 19,000 dead. at this hour, more than 100,000 people have died worldwide from the virus. we will talk about what the steps need to be to keep the number from rising. 95% of the country is forced to stay home. schools in every state have been effected. and today, new york city announced students will stay home the rest of the school here. >> the most important mission for those of us in new york city, and the country, to end the crisis, to not let it resurge. and keeping the new york city schools closed is a way to contribute to beating back the coronavirus. >> easter services around the world tomorrow will be
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different. kentucky's governor is telling people to stay home or they will check licenses plates at churches to force a 14-day quarantine. no additional help from congress. mitch mcconnell says no agreement on relief bills. alexa, the announcement today about new york city schools is big. through is some confusion, right? >> reporter: right. there is confusion. we heard mayor bill de blasio announcing the school closures for the rest of the year. but we heard from new york glove nor said that classifying that as a mayor's opinion and said that a decision has not been made, and any decision on school closures in the new york city area will require coordination across the entire state, and beyond this region. so a lot of confusion, and i
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just leaves parents wondering what is to come in the next few months. >> what else are you seeing in new york? >> we have seen some of the deadlyiest tolls this week, and that is creating a strain on the infrastructure on the ones we lost. the funeral directors on the system, jamming up and families having to wait longer period of time to commemorate the ones they lost. i speak with the executive dreker of the new york funeral directors association. he oversees all funeral directors in the state. we talked about the strain he is seeing. take a listen to what he has to say. >> we have funeral homes that help about 100 families a year. we have some funeral homes in the city that have helped 40,
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50, 60 families already. imagine doing half of your year's business in a couple weeks or a week's period of time. the sheer volume is just working against us. because we don't have the time. what it's causing, they call a funeral home. many are at capacity now. they are waiting for the ability to have something. they are helping to be buried or cream mated. >> he talked about hearing from some who are staying up to 1:00 p.m. the hours are from 7:00 a.m. and 1:00 p.m. and they are worried about going back to first responders and they might be asymptomatic and all the concerns are weighing on what we are seeing as the last responders,en fortunately, for the city and the state. >> right, alexa, thank you so much. >> let's bring in a doctor from
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the new york city area. doctor what are you seeing every day? >> the same thing that is building reported in the media for various weeks. the disparities, the health disparities and the pain and suffering, those in black and brown communities and throughout new york city. >> i do want to come back to those disparities because they are showing up in new york city, they are showing up in houston. but before we get there, i want to ask, a lot of talk about reopening. a lot of people want to reopen the economy. what do you have to see from a medical perspective before to it's time to begin having that conversation? >> i would like see the curve flatten. i think health is important -- first of all, health is not a commercial asset. it's a busic human right. at this point, right now, it's too early to be reopening the economy for anything right now. there's too many people that are sick. too many people that are dying.
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especially in communities that are hit the hardest, and the workers n grocery stores and other places where essential workers are expose. and why do we talk about reopening the economy? i don't understand. >> so let's pick up your point about the racial disparities, who is getting the virus and who is dying. the numbers out of houston. the black community makes up about 23% of the city's population, they account for over half of the coronavirus deaths. your perspective, why is it hitting minority communities harder? >> first, the coronavirus is not a people of color busdisease. this not a black people disease. it's affecting everyone. and before people realized that black people were suffering, they were content in conversation with testing and
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stroomt, and we are learning that black and other minority communities, latino and they are hit disporportionateely. and so it's just -- it's just -- had is horrible. this is horrible. no just in houston or new york city. 20 persons in a latino community. i bleen 20 out of 23 persons are being infected. and the black community as well with, the same number. but these are people that are not lazy. they are not people that are hanging out -- they are people who are working in supermarkets, working for mta, driving train ares and buses, police officers,
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firefighter department. doctors and nurses and cleaning the hospitals, they are cleaning the nursing home getting sick. they are hardworking people. it's unfortunate that we are placing or doing victim blaming against the whole community. i'm very frustrated and exhausted. >> of course. of course. that frustration is incredibly understandable. we also spent a lot of time focusing on the number of people infected, and died. that is with good reason. i want to turn to worldwide. 1.7 million cases worldwide. about 400,000 of the folks recovered. what do the numbers tell us? >> i mean, it's still too early. because there are certain cities in the united states that haven't reached its peak yet. for new york ski city, the graph shows we will reach our peak in may. it's too early to say we are getting better.
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i'm happy that the numbers -- to show that people are recovering from it. but again, which communities are we talking about that are recovering from this epidemic? >> if we get an antibody test, which we have heard a lot about, to determine who has been exposed to the virus, how much does it help medical profession ales ales to stymie the spread? >> it will help. but we need testing. we need testing. as simple as that. we need testing. we need testing. i will repeat it again. we need testing. >> i hear you on that. there are calls for people who recovered to donate plasma to treat others. you have heard whether or not that is actually effective? >> no, i haven't. i haven't. to be honest with you. i understand -- i think that -- >> i think -- >> -- i know that is a test that
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is currently being studied. that is long term. right now, we need available testing so people can understand the numbers and be more responsible in terms of social distancing. and the epidemic has truly open onned my eyes to a lot. and just painful to see people who are struggling to survive in this epidemic. >> i do want to ask you one more question. we hard about various symptoms. what are you seeing most frequently as you treat patients? >> the presentation -- the clinical presentation varies. and people come in with a fever, some without. shortness of breath. some without shortness of breath, they are complaining-loss of taste and smell. some people come in with dizziness. there's so many. so we are very hyper critical to those that are arriving to the
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emergency department. not just the elderly. not just the immune compromised. we are know verse and scared because we don't want to affect our families. this a battle. i'm just praying our nation can get through this sooner or later. >> doctor, thank you so much for your time. >> thank you. food banks across the country are warning they may not be able to keep up with a surge in demand as they try to feed those hit hardest by the covid-19 cray sis. the long lines in the food bank has gone viral. lining up to receive fresh produce, milk and beans. the longest food distribution in
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their 40-year history. eric, thank you so much for taking time to speak with us today. i saw that photo this morning, and it was just absolutely arresting. it speaks to the size and scale and the need that is out there. i have to imagine that you were overwhelmed at the number of people who came out in need of help. >> alicia, you are right. e we were overwhelmed. and this is truly unprecedented. we are just one 200 food banks across america that are seeing the lines. in this magnitude. 10,000 families coming to get assistance. san antonio is amazing community. a humble community, a hardworking community. but we struggle with a high rate of poverty. a lot of people in the
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hospitality sector that is closed. and the paychecks ran out. and people are desperate to get nourishment, desperate to get food. we felt the disparity in the sheer numbers. and i know our community is in crisis and it's going to take a lot more support if we meet this up coming need. >> one of the things i was struck by in the reporting in san antonio, it's not just working class san antonioans in the lines. lots of middle class families who said we have normally been in a foigs give. what are the stories you are hearing as people line up for supplies? >> that is absolutely correct. more than half of who is coming, we normally feed about 60,000 people a week. a high rate of poverty and now,
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120,000. and they have come to volunteer. they volunteered and served. they have never been on the side where they are now asking for help. we have an amazing community that is stepping up. lots of corporations like usaa, and valero. and the city government has rallied. it will be a public partnership if we are going to weather the storm. the snap program will play a critical role. we are seeing families waiting for food in a parking lot. families need be in grocery stores. way it happened, if snap is strengthened and more families that need that assistance at this time get enrolled, programs like that, women, infants and children program. and many of the families have been affected because their kids are not getting meal at school.
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they are trying to make it up and they are coming to food banks. i know we're get through this. but it's going to take more than philanthropy. it will take a government and a nonprofit approach if we are going to feed the lines in the next coming weeks. >> do you have a sense as you talk to people, you listen to stories, how unemployment has played in the crisis? >> yeah, you know, we're trying to bridge that gap. many of them were told 2, 2 1/2 weeks a guy, they were being furloughed. they were told to apply for unemployment. that can be up to a 30 daytime period. they're getting frustrated. they are panicking. we're seeing lots of folks in the line that maybe both parents were in hospitality. you know, oil and gas has suffered. our seniors.
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these are families that their margins are thin any way. and with the covid-19 crisis, they left without anything. many are afraid. they are anxious and they don't want to on go to a grocery store. and they can't afford groceries delivered to their home. they are coming out to the distributions because they know it's safe. they know they can drive through. and they know they're going to get help. and i just -- i pray that we will be able to have the food supply and food banks across america, we have been, like i said, blessed with some amazing volunteers coming out. who are on the front line, putting their own personal safety at risk while they are serving. we had tremendous support from the grocery. we had a grocer that stepped up in major ways to help was food supply. but foundations, and just the
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whole community rallying. but it's at the san antonio level. usually, we are fighting a natural disaster in america, all of us to lean to a natural disaster, and every community is isolated. is a feeling of being alone and you are trying to fight this fight yourself. but boy, if anyone can support the their local food bank, i'm just challenging your viewers to reach out to your local food bank and support them at this time. because it's truly an unprecedented need. >> thank you so much for fighting the fight. we are grateful for your time. >> >> nearly 2.5 million farm workers are essential to the country but many have no legal status. i will talk about the immigration debate and the pan emic. giving birth can be an overwhelming experience but in middle of a global pandemic.
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farm workers have been considered essential in the fight against the coronavirus. yet despite their front line status, many have been left out of relief efforts. some in the white house are seeking to lower farm workers' pay. npr reports that new white house chief of staff is working to relief deuce wages for workers on forms. a representative for the agriculture committee. i want your take on the npr
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story, you have folks in the white house, and department of agriculture and working that slice their wages. >> thank you. the student. and those who work in agriculture, and farmers and farm workers and you talk about lowering wages for what we just deemed essential workers, it tells you the disconnect with the administration and those who are actually out in the fields and the good work they do. what people have to realize what we realize here on the central coast of california, farm workers are so valuable but so vuler in rabble. there's a reason why they are essential. they are providing us with the food security that is necessary. they are doing work that many americans will not do. they are vulnerable because they are vulnerable to the disease based on work conditions, and deportation. 60% to 70% of the farm workers
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are in an undocumented status. 23 if they are essential. we need to put protections in place with the relief packages to ensure they are protected, and they can provide the food security so you and i and my daughters have the foods and vegetables that are necessary now and all times. >> can you talk a little bit about what it would have looked like for the workers to have been included in the three existing relief packages? how reliefs might be addressed in the fourth relief package. and how it's as much the community but a public health question. >> yeah, no, sure, as you know, dealing with the administration, when you bring up imgrigs, it's a hot topic. and therefore, it can be a nonstarter. you realize, i have have realized, there are other ways to protect immigrants and farmers and we have done it in
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the relief packages we put forward. the three of them. we made sure there is funding for the health care centers and e we made sure we bumped up the funding as eric cooper was talking about earlier for the food banks. we made sure -- and more accessibility for the nutrition programs so they can get the food from the food banks. we made sure there is funding for colleges and made sure there is funding for the child care centers and head start as well. now, imgrans have access to all of those. we are able to work around and it make sure there is funding for the very fortunate fast tillti -- fast si facilities they have access to. how to promote, and workers as we talked about, and we have to make sthaur we're able to basically provide them, and
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fight for them when i comes to making sthaur f they -- some of them don't have social security numbers. they will not be able to use the benefits we passed in the last legislation. why not use the individual identification numbers, the tax pay per numbers, as you know, undockmented, there are 11 million undocumented workers in the united states. they contribute 11 billion in taxes each year. why not use the i-10 instead of social security number. we will continue to fight for the coronavirus immigrant family protection act. a bill that not only makes sure the i-10 numbers are used but it staps implementation of the public charge rule. it suspends actions in
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deportation in certain places and extends medicaid and snap benefits to those who need it most. there are local steps we are taking here. in monterey county, we have put in effect an advisory how farmers and farm workers can go about being essential workers and don't make sure there are sanitary conditions out in the fields, make stlur is education, other way they show the separation that is necessary to flatten the coronavirus curve. we are fortunate, so far,ing we on the coast have not had a major outbreak at the this time. but let me tell you, how close they work together, where they live, farm worker, housing and intergenerational homes, it would a wildfire waiting to happen. steps have been taken by the farmers and farm workers to make sure it doesn't happen but we need to do more. we will don't do more.
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not just in congress but the central coast and throughout the country. >> before i let you go, i want to get your take on a tweet from a fellow congress person. how can with you be essential and illegal at the same time? it's time to legalize it more? enter she begs a very provocative question there. do you think it's an increased appetite to really tackle the immigration system? >> no, it's not the a provocative question. it's a realistic question. one we have been asking the whole time in congress, being a representative in california. but it's obvious. basically, you know, we have so many people working to make our food secure. putting food on your table. they need to be protected, not just now but all time. the form work force
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modernization act. and they came together and realized how important the farm workers are. they deserve to not just stay here, but continue to work here to stay here, contribute to the agriculture and food security. that is passed in the house and it's sitting in the senate, unfortunately. but those are the types of efforts that have been done thaw may not hear about. people may not hear about it. but they were done on a bipartisan basis, coming together and realizing how important the farm workers are when i comes to providing us with food security. yes, the questionanswer is ques. the efforts will not just have happened. not going to happen in the pandemic. but as long as i'm in congress, they will continue to happen to make sure we protect the farm workers. >> all right, congressman, thank you so much for your time. >> thank you. it's supposed to be a time of coming together welcoming a new baby into the world.
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a pregnant woman began to feel covid-19 symptoms. the hospital, he gave birth to a bear girl. the daughter was carried away to another room before she could hold her. this is a story of a new york mom. the experience spells out the new reality that expecting mothers. they said, we need to deliver you, and i can't have my husband here. with me to talk about her experience, latoya jordan, and a doctor in the washington, d.c. area. thank you for your time.
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i read this story. it broke my heart. can you walk us through what happened on that day? >> sure. i went in to get tested or to really understand what was going on with me. i had some really severe nausea and started to vomit over night. so my doctor recommended i go to get evaluated an at the hospital. when i got there, and shared with them my thisymptoms, did i have any of covid-19 symptoms. i explained i had a cough, a linge lingering cough for three weeks and it set off the protocol for them to test me and separate me from my husband. so they could evaluate me further. from there -- >> and then what happened? >> sorry? >> no, go ahead. >> then, we -- my husband stayed
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in the hospital and stayed in the area and i was brought back to a room, and they did all the normal testing and put an i.v. in e me, and as the day progressed, not only did i get the covid-19 test, but i also got test for pregnancy issues, and pree -- preclampsia. they did come back and show i had a rare form of preclampsia. they were waiting to find out if i had covid-19, something more important was happening, the health of me and my baby and they needed to deliver. i asked if my husband could come in, now we are about to deliver the baby and he will was still there. in the hospital. and i told no, because of being
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tested for covid-19 and i needed to wait until those results came back before i could, you know, rejoin with my family. >> dr. stokes, we are in a very difficult momentum. i understand there are difficult situations about how to protech moms, how to protect their babies. how do you do it in a way that is fair and clear and makes sense? >> i think that the most important thing right now in the time of uncertainty, we have to do with it compassion and empathy and understand how difficult it is to be a woman now, and that is pregnant and giving birth in a pandemic and things that make sense, everybody is trying to come together with policies and ways of protecting both mothers and babies and the nurses and everybody in hospitals and the problem is that we don't have all of the science to make the decisions in a way that come across as completely making
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sense. as you're well aware, the science is changes everidy day, moment to moment. and hospitals will trying to come up with guidance, from the most up to date science. the problems are they are off, and discrepant. and i read your story, you were separated from your baby after birth and my heart goes out to how painful, emotionally this is. and to come in and not really have an understanding what is going to happen and how this is all going to play out is one of the most difficult things that a patient can face when coming into a hospital. the policies are evolving, wlmpbt the babies have to be separated after birth, if mom is
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suspected of having covid. and that there are 308cys reck maending how to do it. this needs to be a discussion between patients, mothers and their doctors. there needs to be understanding of on the uncertainties, the things we don't know and they have to be made and shared in a collaborative way. when the science is not 100% and it's -- we have so many questions, e we really to make the decisions together in a way that takes into account the individual needs and preferences of the mothers and the doctors and scientists. and breabs my heard to hear the story. i know your daughter's game is ellison. she is two weeks old? >> almost, on monday, two weeks. >> how is she doing right now? >> she's fine. she has no idea to bring her into world.
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so she is fine. she is getting to know her family and doing all the usual things that a newborn does at this point. so we are really grateful that she is healthy. she tested negative twice. that is one of the most important things for us. she is okay. she's fine. thanks for asking. >> it's wonder to hear. we are -- >> latoya and dr. stokes. sorry, we are out of time. thank you for your time. we reached tout nyu hospital in new york, where she gave back birth for a comment to the sportry. we understand they are extremely difficult times for paraphernalias expecting a newborn, keeping every patient safe is paramount to the highest care and we want to assure them that it's in the best interest. we follow cdc guidelines and gynecologists, accomplished to protect staff. all partials admitted to labor
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and delivery, and a mother to be is covid positive, we can adjust aaccordingly. part of i mate be keeping a warming bed in the mother's room. in the mother tests positive, we may protect the newborn until the mother is asymptomatic. we have all practices in place for a sing the purpose, to ensure the health and well-being of the entire family. we'll be right back. 're taking e wanted♪ ♪we can do it ♪all strength, no sweat
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as unemployment rates skyrocket in the crisis, president trump has announced that student loan payments are waived 6 months, offering relief to millions of americans. are 45 million borrowing who owe 1.6 trillion dollars in debt in the u.s. student loan debt is the secondest highest death debt behind credit cards and auto loans. with me is the author of the book i do not want to do poor, and aaron smith, the co-founder of a startup that develops a covid-19 student loan tool kit. michael, all three of us, old millennials, this is the second recession we have lived through. what does it mean for us as a generation? >> i think for me, a lot of
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friends of mine, if you look in social media, this is the first time in our lives we felt we are finally getting some sense of financial security. and yet, we are reminded that much of our fate is in in our hands. it's a jairy time, it's a frightening time and i think the student loan crisis is already a serious issue. and now, we really have to face i. >> what kind of relief do you want to see from the federal government when i comes to student borrowers. >> michael is correct. this has been a crisis for a long time. and what we have tried to do is provide as much information as we can. given the crisis, we want this to be the last thing for people to worry about. so as you mentioned, congress did put a pause until september 30th on student loan payments. we think that they can do more. and there are advocates that are
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pushing to get more change. the same time, they want to educa educate people as much as they can. i have a start yun called savvy that provides a member benefit for people. but we wanted to create a free tool to help better understand the student loans as they lose their job or have hours cut. >> michael, the title of your new book "i don't want to die poor" expresses anxious toty that is shared by so many members of the generation and almost a shame of student loan debt. you write when someone attempts to discuss their debt, the judgment is questioned. how could i have not understand the commitment i was making? if i'm so far in debt now, why am i writing it and the not pursuing a more lucrative career? how do you place the responsibility of the burrowing?
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>> i think my book is many things, and the social mobility, and i want to point out, the federal government will be giving people at least six months of a break, it durstn't help me with private student loans. it might be a smaller portion, it's disproportionate to me, and i write in book no matter what career i would have chosen, there are certain realities that have chosen, and no loan could have stop me from facing -- and so i think again, you need e to educate the borrower and talk about how the institution itself is really exploitive to all students and particularly those who are most vulnerable. >> i know you agree largely with that frame work. i want to ask new this frame
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work, what are you advising to borrowing, how they can approach the loans they have? >> yeah, michael is absolutely right. many of the inequalities we have seen in the coronavirus crisis have been true for a long time. communities of color are among the most impacted. savvy works with a lot of middle class teachers, nurses, people who are at the front lines of dealing with the crisis, a need help. the policy needs to go further. we have to educate people. the crisis helped tool for people who lose their job, their hours cut. they can go, find out options. potentially have a lower monthly payment well beyond september 30th. we tell people this is the time to get your loans in order to
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really understand where your options are. you are facing so many challenges, student loans should be the last thing on your mind. >> michael, i do want to get your take on former vice president joe bide season adopting some of bernie sanders' student loan thoughts. and black colleges and universities and under funded minority serving institutions. do you think it goes far enough? >> it's a step in the right direction. it does don't far enough. we have to talk about private stu student loans because they go after black students like me and they can destroy their lives. and the rest of it, most of that goes to bernie sanders, and yeah, good direction, i need more. >> thank you very much. be sure to check out it. great quarantine reading. up next, amazing stories of
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♪ from the record spike in unemployment to extended stay-at-home orders, the weight of this crisis pandemic can seem unbearable as times. as we end our hour, we want to highlight how people from all over the world are helping and caring for each other. the reigning miss england is training in her sash and crown for scrubs. she's decided to return to england to work as a doctor amid the coronavirus outbreak. she worked as a junior doctor specializing in respiratory medicine. he was doing humanitarian work last month but as emails from her colleagues started pouring
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in, she knew she had to come back to work. >> especially the last week of doing the charity work, i did not feel like wearing my crown, i did not feel like attending the vants while dressing up for them and i started contacting work to let them know that i wanted to get back as soon as possible. >> ireland's prime minister is also returning to work as a doctor amid the country's growing coronavirus crisis. he worked as a doctor before launching his political career. he will be working one day a week assisting with phone assessments of people. and at 7:00 p.m., here in new york, a hot spot, the coronavirus sounds come alive amid the cheering.
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good evening and welcome to "politics nation." tonight's lead, a tale two pandemics. as we are all inundated about the information about the horrors of the coronavirus pandemic, one thing now clearly stands out -- the disproportionate impact of covid-19 on african-americans and disadvantaged communities. i'm not saying the pandemic is a conspiracy to kill or target blacks, but it is illuminating the existing racial disparities in this country that reverberate in everyth
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