and may has a fresh new outlook on the rest of her life, too. >> come here, buddy. >> a new little guy in her life, a son. she named him ben after the lost prince. the name sake he never got to meet. that's all for this edition of "dateline." i'm craig melvin. thank you for watching. first up on msnbc, signs of hope amid the loss. what new numbers suggest and what america's empty streets mean to stopping the spread of coronavirus. >> what's the plan? a new report on the coronavirus task force. and whether there's a clear path forward for the country in the weeks ahead. money in the bank. new word on the relief checks. the government says some have already been direct deposited. going nowhere.

the state of travel in america, and no plan on when it will get back in the air and on the high seas. i'm kendis gibson. >> i'm lindsey reiser. thank you for joining us. we want to go live to pope francis holding his easter service, on the live stream. it's a two-hour service, that started about an hour ago. nationwide lockdowns and social distancing are keeping worshipers at home and at the vatican. people are prohibited from gathering in the square, where the pope would traditionally give a blessing there. >> it's interesting watching the choir being social distancing apart, as they sing there. first, let's get the latest headlines. this morning in the u.s., there's more than 500,000 confirmed cases of covid-19, across the country. more than 20,000 people have died. >> the u.s. is reaching a grim, new high, as the nation with the

most coronavirus cases in the world, surpassing italy for the first time. the country's death toll has more than doubled over the past week. >> president trump facing a public health and economic crisis and says that he will decide fairly soon on how and when to reopen the country. >> certainly, the toughest decision that i've ever made. and i will make the right decision. i will be facing it on a very smart people and professionals and doctors and business leaders. there's a lot of thought that goes into a decision like that. it will be based on a lot of facts and instinct also. whether we like it or not, there's an instinct to it. we have to get our country back. people want to get back. they want to get back to work. >> and the irs sent out the first wave of coronavirus relief checks. the agency tweeting yesterday, they will continue issuing

payments, quote, as fast as they can. people that filed tax returns for 2018 and 2019, and authorized direct deposits will be the first to see that money hit the banks accounts. those that department file will probably have to wait weeks to get their check. let's go back to the vatican and the pope right there. you see him, pope francis, leading the traditional easter mass. there's nothing traditional about this one. >> that's fair to say. nbc's matt bradley is there live. matt, we keep saying unprecedented. what's happening today? >> yeah, lindsay. we keep hearing unprecedented, as well. we asked vatican officials and they can't tell if it's unprecedented. the history is so long and people can't say if it's never been done before. it's certainly been never been in recent memory. that's a trikie ing sprikin inie you see there. this is an easter mass.

he does this on christmas and easter, from rome to the world. the holy father, pope francis, is doing this, appealing to the entire world. this time, over screening. and he is doing this with what he calls creativity of love. all of the methods reaching out. bringing the catholic world, 1.3 billion people, bringing them together and keeping them apart. we've been talking to vet catic officials. they are seeing an opportunity here. in canterbury, they are hoping to see a resurrection of prayer and of faith. they are hoping this crisis actually brings people together and kind of renews an affinity for this ancient institution. i spoked to one senior vatican official. and here's what he told me. >> there would be a new spring.

and we will come out of this emergency. we can really have a more human society and more human humanity. you know? with people more capable of feeling, ready to help the poor and to help the economy. >> a lot of people that you have on your show. this cry situation is causing them to re-evaluate the health system. re-evaluate the economic system. re-evaluate governance. this church hopes that we will re-evaluate how we treat each other and our relationship with god. guys? >> quite a scene, indeed, right there. the juxtaposition right there, seeing you outside st. peters with the mask and the scenes you're seeing inside of the basilica. very, very empty on this easter sunday. matt bradley, joining us from

the vatican. thank you. in new york city, drive-through testing sites are opening in different neighborhoods. >> the city has more than 98,000 cases, more than 27,000 people remain hospitalized. and there's an estimated 5,700 to 6,300 deaths. new york remains the global hot spot, as it might be called, for this pandemic, with even bigger numbers today. now, more than 180,000 cases statewide. >> as cory coffin joins us outside of the javits convention center. the conversation is shifting to how and when new york reopens. >> reporter: yeah. how and when and truly, governor cuomo is urging patience for how and when. he is starting to show the how. but he just doesn't know the

when. asked about timelines in may or june, he doesn't have enough information to make that call. >> we are going to put together a team of the best minds that will look at what happened in wuhan, look at what happened in italy on the reopening, and making sure that what we're doing is based on all the science available. what is the possibility of a second wave happening? what is the possibility of people wanting to make a mistake once? but this nation should not go through it again. >> reporter: when it comes to how we reopen new york, it will be very slowly. it absolutely begins with testing. and testing as many people as possible. and he also wants to work regionally with other states

nearby, to reopen together. since all of the states are closely interlocked in general when it comes to business. new jersey, connecticut, pennsylvania, that sort of thing. and, guys, he said, when it comes to school, as well, he contradicted mayor de blasio's plan, to close the rest of the school yes for the school year. that's his opinion. and it's ultimately up to the governor for when and how he will do that. >> a tit for tat. the cases are plateauing. they are plateauing at what he called was a horrific rate. cori coffin, live in new york. tom wolf warning of a possible surge of cases next week in philadelphia. joining us right now, tony reed, a chief medical officer in philadelphia. is philadelphia doing enough, in your opinion, to flatten the curve? >> i believe so. we've had a lot of great

coordination between the health systems, the city, the state. we've really gotten the messaging out to people, to shelter the place, to self isolate, social distancing. i think we've done quite a bit to flatten the curve, so to speak. reduce what our overall numbers would have been, had we not done any of that. and really given our systems time to prepare for this. >> there's more than 21,000 confirmed cases in our state. 6,000 of those are in philadelphia. in your opinion, do health care workers have what they need? do they have ppe? do they have medical equipment? >> right now, it looks like we do. it's going to be close. we're heavily reliant on supply chains making it to us. we're heavily reliant on pennsylvania helping. the national stockpile has helped us, as well. it's going to be close. like i said, with everything that we've done to help mitigate

the impact, i think it will make a huge difference here and us having enough equipment and space to get through this. >> doctor, i know that you've been critical of people in your city right there, who are not practicing social distancing. is that happening? >> it's happening to an extent. if you've seen the timeline and my multiple appearances from the first time i was on, to the last time i was on last week, you can see a difference. i often give the description of what would be an hour commute for me is down to a 30-minute commute. we're seeing a huge difference in the number of people out and about. and when you look at places like kelly drive and fairmont park and some of the suburban parks, you're seeing a difference happening there, as well. >> dr. reed, we just talked about new york. there seems to be some evidence of maybe a plateau. what are the hopeful signs that you see? and also, what concerns do you still have? >> with regards to new york?

>> new york and nationally, the trends. >> got it. yeah. we're starting to see the number of new cases decrease a little bit. where, you may have been getting 30 and 40 admissions a day, you're down to getting 20, 25 admissions per day per hospital. we're starting to see the peaking of the curve in new york. the peaking of the curve nationwide. i think we're a little bit behind that in philadelphia. we're still seeing a rise. we're getting more patients each day. and so, locally, i don't think we've peaked yet. we're going to see this through this week, and maybe into next week. >> that in mind, talking about philadelphia, new york and the country. you're looking at all of the numbers. how soon can, say, new york reopen? i think governor cuomo cede it be said it best. there can't be a specific date.

you're looking for cases to be decreasing, new cases to be dekrd decreasing. making sure that the hospitals can test and treat patients. we have to do this without relying on emergency hospitals and disaster areas. we have to contain them within our buildings. and you really have to have a system in place that the states are capable of monitoring the new cases. and so, what's happened with this, the number of cases have gone up so dramatically, that our state departments of public health, our county departments of public health, can't entirely keep up with following people, monitoring cases and ensuring that newly infected people are staying isolated. so, we have to be able to hit those points, in order to prevent a rebound. >> what are your thoughts on an antibody test? a lot of experts, including dr. fauci said, we have to have an antibody test to find out who has contracted the virus.

>> it would be helpful. there are some that are out there in smaller scale. we've not been able to get one that's ramped up that we can do widespread testing with. but he's right. it's good to know who has had the infection, who is currently infe infected, and who has had no immunity developed to the infection. it makes a little bit of a difference where you put people, in the health care system. and it makes a difference how you diagnose people when they come in with symptoms. >> dr. turner reed, from temple university, i appreciate your time. >> absolutely. an american doctor in madrid. she will tell us how she got thrown into the covid crisis. plus, keeping hospital rooms clean, while protecting themselves from the virus. hospital janitors and their concerns, next. >> still, another voice, from the front lines. >> it is day 11 for me being in new york city, at our

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welcome back to msnbc headquarters in new york. we're looking at a live look at philadelphia. just spoke to a doctor there. they're expected to become a hot spot in the coming days. the doctor says they're a few days behind new york. the cases are still rising. the number of people contracting coronavirus, as new york reaches a plateau. >> many fourth year medical

students have been pressed into service here in the u.s., as doctors on the front lines fighting the virus. >> joining us is stacy tupes. she is working as a doctor in a nursing home in spain, in the city of madrid. stacy, you're coming off of 14-consecutive days of work. what has it been like for you? >> it's been exhausting. it's been a lot of caring for patients, testing patients. running back and fourth from all of our isolated zones in the nursing home and making sure there's a control of oxygen levels and temperatures. it's a lot of chaos. how do we stop this? how do we control this? it's exhausting. >> it's exhausting for many medical folks in the u.s., as well. you chose to go to med school in

spain. were you surprised when you were plunged into the deep end to work as a doctor there? >> no. and actually, i wanted to. i didn't like sitting around being quarantined, knowing i could help and there was help to be needed. i actively started looking around to see what i could do, as a medical student. and i found the nursing home that has 180 residents with one weekday doctor and one weekend doctor. and them knowing they were starting to get hit with coronavirus, they needed backup. they needed help. and so, that's an eye when i went and told them, if you need help and they hired me. >> we know that spain has been hit hard in this crisis, much like italy has. can you take us inside that hospital and tell us -- excuse me, the nursing home, and tell us, what these patients are saying and feeling?

they're not able to speak right now, at least in person with their loved ones. maybe it's over facetime. how are patients responding? >> it's bad. a lot of them go through acute confusional syndrome. where they know where they're at one moment, they don't know where they're at the next moment. they have been in the same big room that we have, that we converted into a mini-icu, if you will. they are going through phases of confusion. and i'm seeing all of them go through depression because they don't understand why they're there. they do understand, they think they're dying, even if we have been stable. they can't see the family or loved ones. the loved ones can't do anything to be there with them. the ones that are critical, end up on care. those are the hardest, too. we have to tell the family they can't see them and their loved one is dying. it's hard for them right now.

>> it has redefined how many of us are passing away. and how we're dealing with morning. now that you've had time on this job, what is the best and the worst thing about being pressed into service in this way? the best thing would be being able to help. being able to be there. and knowing i can do something better during this pandemic. i think the hardest part is the lack of experience and the lack of knowing how to handle the things and the situations. every day i'm learning more. they say hand - on experience is the best experience. i would never dream this would have happened because of a pandemic. >> stacy toups, appreciate your

time and the work you're putting in there. now, to the epicenter of this crisis in the u.s., new york city. after seeing the deadliest day since the start of the outbreak this past week, governor andrew cuomo says the curve is starting to flatten. >> good news is, the curve of the increase is continuing to flatten. the number of hospitalizations appears to have hit an apex. and the apex appears to be a plateau, which is what many of the models predicted. the three-day average, which is what we look at, because day-to-day can be somewhat deceiving, especially when you get towards the weekend, because the weekend reporting gets a little different. but all of the numbers are on the downward slope. >> joining us is calvin sun, an e.r. doctor here in new york city. the governor there, governor

cuomo, said the hospitalizations reached an apex and has been plateauing this past week. from what you're seeing, would you agree? >> what does a plateau mean? it means the numbers are the same. 100 patients, 100 patients, 100 patients, in the emergency room. that's overwhelming. but relative to last week, 120, 140, 160. so, it's better. better is a relative term. 100, 100, 100, every day, is overwhelming for emergency rooms. but we are taking this in a good sign, as a good sign, that things are actually taking effect. and the effect of social distancing, the lockdown, is having a profound effect in the emergency rooms. that is not discounting that people are dying upstairs. that takes one or two weeks to get better or go into cardiac arrest. you're going to hear a tale of two different cities. downstairs in the emergency room, social impacting,

lockdown, two to three weeks, better for us. relatively better. upstairs, two or three weeks since the admission, worse. you're going to hear about a lot of deaths. >> dr. sun, there's new reporting that some doctors are starting to move away from using ventilators for coronavirus patients, saying gently, 40% to 50% of patients with respiratory distress die on ventilators. but 80% of coronavirus patients have died. why is the number so high in new york city? and why is this happening to coronavirus patients? >> way before we start to intubate or not to intubate, the worldwide figure was 60% death on anybody who gets intubated. it was causation or correlation, that patients were so sick that they were going to die. or you can debate whether in

intubation is new with it. i've been trained to intubate for five or six years. i had no other choice but to intubate. if i stood there, the patient would be dead the next minute. unless the patient has a dni order or the family doesn't wish for the patient to be intubated. i never have to get in a decision should we intubate now or ten minutes from now? in the emergency room, most of us, only really intubate when we have no other choice. that's due to the patient's illness, they were so sick they were going to die. or find other ways to bridge a patient, with oxygen therapy, without putting them in medical coma or paralyze them or

intubate them. if we intubate, that's a lasting process. you will have lung injury permanently after you are off the intubation and you survive the process. it's not a benign process. what kind of toll is this taking on you and your colleagues? >> we don't have time to think we're asking a community of physicians, that we suffered from mental health issues. our suicide rate was twice the national average way before this pandemic. there was a pandemic before this pandemic. we're seeing a war. we're rushing into war without thinking. wo we're afraid because that's our oath. i'm very open about my feelings and how i feel. i can't say the same about my colleagues, without thinking about the cause of the ramifications on themselves and their family back home and all

of our colleagues are sick, hospitalized, intubated or dead. i am worried about afterwards when we have time to acknowledge what happened to us and hopefully never have this happen to our community ever again in the future. forgive me that i'm realistically optimistic and on the realistic side of things at this point. >> dr. calvin sun, we thank you you and your colleagues for what you're doing day in and day out. take care. as we take note of the work that health care professionals are doing, the other group of essential workers making sure things stay clean and safe inside hospitals every day. later on, a.m. joy. adam schiff aon response, relie and the disparity of the victims. that's later at 10:00 a.m. eastern on msnbc. ♪

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so, i just got home from the hospital. i'm going into my garage, like a lot of health care workers, to shed my uniform and socially isolate myself from my family and friends. there's no social distancing when you care for patients. there's no sheltering at home. i was scared, anxious going in, knowing that we lack ppe, that we're not using the appropriate ppe still. covid-19 is becoming like a sniper in the viral war, silently taking out health care workers. >> a sniper in the viral war. quitewa words right there. that's the reality that many health care workers are facing. they help others to fight this virus. >> total confirmed cases is over 500,000 in the u.s. 20,000 people have died. >> scientists in north carolina are getting ready to test a treatment drug they began administering to patients who have mild or moderate symptoms

over a two-week period. >> the hypothesis for this critical trial, is this agent will interfere with the inflammatory process and prevent patients from needing to go on a ventilator. it was all hands on deck, 24/7, get it activated as quickly as possible, and we're screening patients. 40,000 disney employees will be furloughed. the workers will have access to health and education benefits. they can also apply for unemployment. >> this is a decision that the union doesn't like. however, it's within the company's right to lay off and furlough employees in this situation. >> and disney's parks have been closed for several weeks. to the bay area, 74 miles of

streets are closed for people that want to practice social distance and get out there on the streets. the slow street program accounts for 20% of the roads. local vehicle traffic, like someone driving in the neighborhood, or making a delivery, is still okay. let's turn to the white house. president trump is trying to nail down a new date to reopen the country in what he described as his biggest decision yet. >> monica alba is at the white house. the president seems eager to get the country opened again. i know he was talking on his favorite news network last night. what was he saying? >> that's right. president trump signals more notes of optimism and hope on this easter sunday, with themes of resurrection, potentially for the economy in the coming weeks. as he makes those plans to try to reopen certain sectors.

but acknowledging all the while, this will be the most consequential decision of his presidency. certainly, to date. and acknowledging that there's a lot of different factors that will have to go into that call. he'll have to talk to governors. he'll have to talk to lawmakers and he'll have to talk to a lot of business people in the private sector to come to any conclusion, which he is hoping to do in the coming days. take a listen how he framed that on fox news last night. >> people want to get back. they want to get back to work. we have to bring our country back. i will be making a decision reasonably soon. we're setting up a council of some of the most distinguished leaders in every field, including politics and business and medical. and we'll be making the decision fairly soon. >> reporter: we know that president trump did meet with some members of the coronavirus task force yesterday. the group itself met formally at

the white house last night. there's no briefings and meetings on the schedule for today. president trump will be tuning into an easter service online. guys? >> nbc's monica alba for us at the white house. we continue to honor and thank health care workers on the front lines, at hospitals and facilities around the country. but there's other essential workers in those hospitals that risk their health every day. >> we're talking about the people who clean and disinfect the most critical parts of the hospital. as nbc's jo ling kent reports, some of the workers say they do not have proper protection. >> reporter: inside hospitals on the front lines of the coronavirus, alongside the doctors, nurses and health care workers are an army of cleaning staff, janitors and housekeepers, working around the clock to keep hospitals clean. entering vacated isolation rooms to scrub and clean the room for the next critical patient. for all they risk on the job, they lack enough protective

equipment. the seiu says that workers aren't being properly informed about the dangers they face in this pandemic. >> the housekeepers have not been supplied the proper ppe. you know? we are -- they are on the front lines. they do what they really want to do for the hospitals. first and foremost, everything and everybody on that unit, regardless of what they do, it contributes to the well-being of health regarding a patient. none of that can happen, unless the housekeeper does their job. >> reporter: northwestern medicine responded. and the spokesperson said, the health and safety of our employees, physicians and patients are the highest priority. we've gone through extraordinary lengths to create an environment that protects everyone. we follow the recommendations of the cdc for personal protective

equipment and have been fortunate to secure personal protective equipment to do so. we look at our guidance daily as it continues to evolve. we provide multiple channels for communication, including a dedicated hotline so our staff can ask questions and get support. have you seen anything like this in your 12 years of service? >> first time. >> reporter: how much do you worry about the shortage that the hospital is telling you about? >> i am hearing that we will get more soon. it will get better. not much time to worry. we need ppe, the proper ppe, right away. we have to take the steps to get what we need to be in order to be safe. and i urge to please provide us with the proper equipment, to deal with this situation. >> and that was jo ling kent

reporting. some trending stories. some involve alex rodriguez, who joined msnbc, last night, discussing whether the 2020 season will actually happen. a-rod touched on whether baseball players should get preferential treatment, in terms of testing, so the 2020 season can be salvaged. >> my question for you is the 2020 season going to happen? yes or no? >> i'm certainly hopeful. obviously, mike, as you know, we have to make sure that health comes first. and it is such a fluid virus, that it will dictate to us, when we play, baseball will not dictate to a virus the situation when we play. and we have to make sure, too, while testing is performed for baseball players, it's not a good look that baseball players get tested while americans suffer with a lot of uncertainty. >> a-rod had to delay his

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i call it the opening our country task force. or opening our country council, so it doesn't get confused. we'll have great business leaders and great doctors. we'll have a great group of people. >> president trump, announcing his second task force, as his administration weighs when to start opening the economy. >> a new piece in "the washington post" writes, the trump administration has many task forces, but still no plan for beating covid-19. joining us is john with "business insider." >> we'll catch you up to speed. we have an official task force led by the v.p. and a shadow force, by jared kushner. and "the post" reports, that while the task forces are

working towards the same goal, the reality is more complicated. a complicated nesting doll of groups with different aims and agendas. are there too many of them? >> we know there can be problems when there's too many cooks in the kitchen. we've had a lot of conflicting messages from the trump administration. this week, when vice president mike pence said, we've known from the start that this virus is three-times more contagious than the flu. yes. it's possible that all of the task forces are trying to pull the administration in one direction or another. as of right now, as "the post" reported, it's true. there does not seem to be a coherent plan for defeating the coronavirus. trump's plan is to reopen the economy as fast as possible. there's two problems with that.

the virus makes the timeline, not us. if we reopen too fast, it could exacerbate the crisis. >> we hope they are listening to the doctors, instead of the people leading the task forces, which includes jared kushner, solving middle east peace in the meantime. here's more of "the post" article. it says one of the biggest problems is trump himself. even republicans want him to step back from daily briefings. is that a surprise? >> it's not a surprise. these briefings have gone off the rails. the messaging has been conflicting. and trump has routinely undermined the top advisers. he undermined mike pence. if the public is confused about

the direction of the government at present, it's no surprise. also, as lindsey graham told "the new york times," for that article, trump is not fighting against re-election. he's fighting the virus. he has to show that the economy can recover and ensure that public health is maintained. at present, we aren't seeing either. >> john, thanks for joining us this morning. >> thanks for having me. adding up the losses in the travel industry. one study says the travel slump will cost the u.s. economy nearly $1 trillion. how can it actually recover from that. and a german chocolatemaker is selling easter bun nies with face masks. some said it was in poor taste. he decided to give the proceeds

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the travel industry really feeling the brunt, the economic impact of covid-19. in the last month, for example, the number of passengers passing through security has dropped nearly 50% from 2.5 million to 1.3 million. >> earlier this week, the cdc extended the no-sail order for all cruise ships coming in and out of the u.s. joining us is janeane, a travel expert. good morning to you. how big of a financial hit, obviously, it's huge, but how big of a hit is the travel industry taking? >> we have seen various reports from different economic organizations, travel organizations. and i think it's really difficult to take an accurate snapshot at this point, with there still being a lot of uncertainty as to when the travel industry will start moving again. so i think that time will tell just how much this is truly going to impact this industry.

>> yeah, but it really is already impacting some popular destinations, las vegas is virtually shut down, one day in hawaii, just a couple weeks ago, where they had 300 visitors to the island. on the same day last year, they had 300,000. how are these places going to possibly recover from this? >> well, you know, i think, again, that this is -- there's so much uncertainty around when things are going to be moving again, but you're right. when you look at the numbers, travel is virtually at a standstill at this point, and in fact, a lot of the travel companies, you know, from hotels to airlines are really, you know, chipping in to the effort here. hotels offering free rooms to medical workers. airlines using a lot of their fleets to move cargo that's much needed around the country. what i think is really important to look at is that, you know,

americans are resilient. we are a nation of travelers who are looking for those new experiences, and when the time is right and the travel industry is ready to reopen, i think you will see a pent-up demand. people that are ready to get out and travel. bloomberg reported some hopeful signs coming out of china earlier this week. that hotel bookings are up 40% the first week in march now that things are starting to reopen then. so you know, i think looking to the future, travelers now are really kind of in that mode of thinking about what they want to do when things reopen. i think what we're going to see potentially is this trend of people taking multiple short trips when things do reopen, which is a trend that we have been seeing in the travel industry for the last couple years anyway, and another key component to this, i think you're going to see that suppliers being airlines, hotels, and cruise lines, are going to be rolling out policies that make travelers more comfortable going places where

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