quickly in front of us, alone without the ability to have their family member by their bedside holding their hand. it takes a toll on us. even if you see it every day, it's not something you get used to. >> people are scared. people are sick. people are very sick. no matter what happens we're only a phone call away. we'll come for them no matter what and provide the best care we can. hello, every one. you can hear the strain this their voices. health care workers are on the front line. while there are signs social distancing is working, the crisis is very real for them. more than 20,000 people have died across the u.s. at last count more than 32,000 people have recovered. some doctors and leaders say that number shows progress is being made. that's the backdrop on this easter sunday. a holiday that usually brings

millions of people together. instead, this year, christians are celebrating online or in their cars leaving their churches empty around the world. of course, today, was the day the president initially floated to have the country back open. he is still eager to get the economy up and running again and said we'll know more about his plans this week. we're also in an election year. how will we protect the vote as we protect ourselves. former presidential candidate of hard hit colorado joins me on that in a moment. we'll tell you how the virus is impacting different communities. we have reporters in the field covering the pandemic across the country today. sam brock is in miami. florida governor has made an exemption for the stay at home order. what has the scene been like

there today? >> reporter: there's some level of disconnect what the governor said and what the faith community is practicing right now. over my shoulder you have st. mary's cathedral. what they did was not just prerecord a service for easter but ran it on two different t l television stations here in miami so everybody could see it. they are trying to reach as many people as they can outside of the church buildings. there's about 1.3 million catholics. it's the biggest denomination in south florida. none of them were going to church today. what we saw north in the orlando area was a very different story. there was once again the center arena church convening hundreds of people, we think. on sunday there was hundreds there.

the camera doesn't pan to show you how many were in attendance today. the pastor was not wearing gloves. he was constantly referencing social distancing. we saw some space between people, in other cases there wasn't. we know he touched with his hands several people being healed at the time at the time when the governor, although he's allowing exemptations saying do not get within six feet of another person. we watched it happen on cam are today. we know there are other drive in services that are going on throughout florida. it's thing a gre ing aggregatio that's concerned. >> florida, almost 20,000 confirmed cases. a number that's staggering. what are health officials saying

exemption? >> reporter: they're worried. they have hospital that accommodates 500 plus people. right now it can be scaled up to 1,000. they have not seen hospital rates that will mandate that. the deaths are in the 400s. one out of every five people in the state of florida is 65 people or older. the types of people that live many the state are more vulnerable to the coronavirus. it's going to bear keeping close eye on as we move forward here and it's expected to peak around april 21st. >> all right. thank you for that great reporting. los angeles county is working on a new study that will analyze how the coronavirus can spread so quickly from person to person. gadi joins us live in los angeles. you've been speaking with public health experts. what do they hope this new test will offer? >> well, hopefully they are

hoping these studies tell us a lot more about covid-19. not just who has covid-19 at this exact moment. they are also hoping it tells us when the disease actually got here, how fast it spread, how deadly it is when we factor in everybody. the way to do that is to widen the testing out not just to people who have symptoms but look for those asymptommatic people. usc has tested about 900 people from the wider community. ucla is getting ready to test thousands of front line medical professionals. in santa clara another 3,000 people were tested. these tests will be blood based. they not only tell you if you have it but they can tell researchers if you've had it months ago and recovered and whether or not you might be immune. take a listen. >> the reason is study is important is right now we have been testing the sick.

we truly don't know the true extent of the population that might have covid. there might be many people in the population who had it and the infection was asymptomatic and they survived it. having those people in the calculation will help us figure out how deadly this epidemic is. >> the big question when people hear about this immunity is does this tell you if you're immune. if you ever had covid-19, your immune system will recognize the shape of the virus as an intrudeser that it's already seen before and already fought up. usually for us that means when we're sick, that's what makes us feel so bad. that terrible battle playing out inside of our bodies. what we're learning for some people that battle is so mild, they don't even notice it even though they could be walking around spreading cov ining covi. that's why the antibody tests

will be so crucial. as people here in california were starting to get restless saying the curve is starting to flatten and the county is hoping this people hunker down. they released a study that shows to lift up the restrictions and go back to normal and go back normal lives today, 95% of us could have covid-19 by august 1st. they are hoping that startling reminder keeps people at home because it's basically everybody that you know would have covid-19 by august 1st if things went back to normal. >> all right. thank you for that great reporting. the general election is a little over seven months away and president trump has made no effort to show his disdain.

in an op-ed, former colorado governor writes logistical concerns can be resoevveverreso reparations start now. hoping for the best and taking up business as usual approach invites the sort of mess that marred the vote in wisconsin. joining me now is former colorado governor and former 2020 presidential candidate john hicken lo hickenlooper. thanks so much for joining us. i'd love to get your reaction from the president claiming there's increased voter fraud when you have seen the studies which shows there's less than .1% of voter fraud out there. >> far less than that even. the president doesn't hold himself to the same set of facts that the rest of us use. we were able to use rigorous self-limiting audits during the actual process of voting to make sure there's no widespread or

really any fraud affecting the voting. the notion that a, you can get more people to vote, increase your if your honor oturn out. you can do it in way that's safe and secure. most importantly, with covid-19, we're not sure where we will be in november. this is a way every one can vote. what a lot of people forget is that in the old system, our -- the people that man the polling places are often senior citizens who are the most vulnerable to covid-19. what we saw in wisconsin was outrageous. words don't describe what a american who cares about democracy feels. >> i want to focus on wisconsin. we had president obama tweeting out sort of an it ration of

something i know you have expressed as well saying no one should be forced to choose between their right to vote and their right to stay healthy. what did wisconsin teach us about the need for mail in ballots? >> it was a screaming plea for help that every american should be able to vote and not worry about sacrificing their health. this is one of those moments where we're six months out from the election. we have plenty of time to put in place vote by mail all across the country. it's relatively speaking a small amount of money to inject into the system. it becomes a form of stimulus but it allows us to have secure elections at a lower cost. it's about $6 per voter less expensive. you're talk about a couple of million voters in state, that's serious money. the bottom line is it's way to allow everybody to vote safely. >> the you tell us how the process works in colorado?

how you make sure this works for all coloradoans? >> we should all be making it yeerz easier to vote. that's what we tried to get to in colorado. we have same day registration so people can right up until election day can rej stogister vote and still vote. when kids get their driver's license, they get registered even though they can't vote thep. that is all is to make it easier to vote. in our system now, every citizen gets a ballot in the mail and they can sit at their kitchen table, decide who they will vote for and then they have a choice. they can go vote on election day and drop it off at polling place. they can just pop it in the mail any time in that three week period and make sure they know it will be counted.

we have a rigorous tracking system. >> what you know and i know is this relies on having a postal system that is completely operate operational that is in jeopardy. for this system to work, states must be prepared to process and count the avalanche of ballots that will be postmarked by election day but arrive at election offices the day afterwards. what does that look like given the problems that postal service is facing? >> well, we're not going to sacrifice the postal service during this crisis. it's a basic way that many, many people have of connecting with the outside world. not everybody is wiered up and n

the internet. i realize sta ttistics have changed dramatically. like we're going to help our business communities and have to fund our hospitals and our medical infrastructure, we'll have to support the post office. i don't think that will be a problem. the 2018 election we saw over 90% of coloradoans chose to vote by mail. it wasn't all at the last minute. we were able to set up systems to count those votes. you get so many votes in ahead of time in a very meaningful way, many of the votes are fully counted before you get to 7:00 in the evening on election day, which is out here when we close the polls. >> what is your sense of what the president's resistance to vote by mail? >> i don't know. i think someone must have told him it's going to make it harder for his re-election. i don't see that. we saw in -- when we first went to vote by mail one of the first

constituents we saw increased turn out from was senior citizens. they are not always the most liberal voters. vote by mail allows everybody to vote easily. i think that's a fundamental principal that this country was built on. it's something we should continue to ensure and invest in to make sure that we are representative and representational democracy. >> all right. thank you so much. >> thanks for having me. on. next, the coronavirus is taking a heavy toll on communities of color. we'll talk about why that is and if this moment will spark change. we'll tell you why latinos in one boston suburb is pearing the brunts of the pandemic. that's next on msnbc live.

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in massachusetts there are concerns over chelsea, a coronavirus hot spot. it has the highest incident rate of covid-19 cases in the state. as of yesterday, there were 472 confirmed covid-19 patients. 56 have recovered. 14 have died. 66% of the state's population is latino. as the boston globe write, much like it's playing out in places like queens, new york, the virus is having a disproportionate ill pact in places where the immigrant working class lives. not only are they mostly latino many of them here with illegal status. working from home is a privilege they simply don't have. i'd like to welcome the city counselor at large.

give us a sense of what things are like right now? >> thank you for having me on the show. chelsea is the smallest city many the commonwealth. it's also the second densest in the state. right now, your numbers have not been updated. we have 511 confirmed cases. 16 deaths. we're operating at rate per capita of 127 infections per 10,000 residents. it's the highest in the state and also higher than socme of te hardest hit burroughs. they are low wage essential workers that are in our supermarket, airports. they are cleaning our hospital rooms. a lot of them didn't realize they were signing up to be at front lines when they took their $12 an hour job. because of the cultural make up of the community, we're talking

about generational family composition. if mom goes to work because she's an essential worker, when she comes back home she is posting grandma at risk, her children. we don't have the privilege or the luxury to stay at home and practice social distancing. >> manny, when you look at those various social components, the fact you have intergenerational housing. you have a lot of people considered essential workers. a lot the people don't have access to health care, how much can you really do to mitigate the spread of this virus? >> thank you for having me on the show. i think there's still a lot we can do. this is a global crisis but it require a local strategy. we're working hard at the health center to make sure we bring the resources on the ground, get boots on the ground. we need the tool, the graph, the charts to determine where the hot spots are at. we need to really think about a

rapid deployment. this virus is spreading fast and information is being given by the minute, by the hour and by the day. we have our teams ready the go. there still needs a lot of work to get the right tools niethey d to do the work. >> what i'm hearing is that testing is vital? >> testing is absolutely vital. in fact, make a call out to we need rapid testing devices. today we're having trouble accessing these new devices, these point of care devices that will help us get many people tested as quickly as we can so we can deploy the resources again they'll need to self-isolate, self-quarantine to get our contact tracers to identify other people that have been exposed. testing is vital.

>> there's a health crisis under way that is of critical importance. there's also an economic crisis that's happening across the country. lat latinos were hardly hit after the last recession. what do they need as they face this next economic crisis? >> a lot of the urgency we're feeling now is food. people have not worked for four weeks. we impose a 24/7 lockdown. stay home, locally. these issues we're talking about have always existed, housing and food insecurities. they've only been exacerbated because of this pandemic. when you have communities that are under served which typically are brown and black communities, this is what it is. it's these underlying conditions, diabetes, hyper tension, obesity, respiratory illness. these are issues that

predominantly affect black and brown communities. it's not specific to chelsea. there are other communities across the state and this country. we have an obligation to step up. it's food, medical need, cleaning supplies. we are doing locally what we can but we need leadership to really step it up. we have been ignored for so long. it's no mystery this is happen approximate we need to do better. >> thank you both so much for giving us a window into what's happening. we'll continue this conversation. minority communities are on the front lines of the pandemic across the country. we'll talk about why they will being hit so hard by the coronavirus and what it says about health care in america. coming up, the reverend al sharpton will speak with dr. anthony fauci.

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we're seeing tremendous evidence that african-americans are affected at a far greater percentage number than other citizens of our country. why is it three or four times more so for the black community as opposed to other people? it doesn't make sense. i don't like it. >> that was president trump acknowledging the disproportional impact the coronavirus crisis is having on communities of color. although many have been left with more questions than answers. the answer is obvious. in a washington post she writes, it doesn't take a very stable genius to equiconnect black peos higher rate of unemployment,

massive incarceration, homelessness to see why they are more vulnerable to infection and death during a pandemic. thank you all so much for being with us. doctor, i want to start with you. taking a look at the numbers out of louisiana. although african-americans account for one third of louisiana's population, they represent more than 70% of the state's deaths from covid-19. what are those disparities in louisiana and across the country. tell us about what's happening in the wake of this pandemic. >> first you have to really look at the disparities, where people live, learn, work and play. when your health outcome is ordained by your zip code, we

know something is not right there. when we are as black people constantly striving for excellence, we're not a lazy group of people. what has happened is you have roadblock after roadblock put in your way, whether they be inadvertent or strategically placed, am some point you get weary. african-americans are weary. it takes pandemic to shine the light on these inequities and weakness in our system. t then you see the social determinants play out. you look at diabetes and hypertension, the governments around the country didn't expand medicaid. at least in louisiana, the governor expand medicaid and people got care. people know what they are supposed to do. as african-americans, we cannot

be weary now. we know why the things have happened from historical context like the tuskegee experiment to mention what has happened to us over time. we have to remember we do have some self-determination here. this is a moment where light is being shined on this type of situation. everybody has to be compelled to do better. black people, we have to do better but more than that, the industries and the government, they have to be compelled to do better. it's really hard to expand medicaid or give more money to african-american programs to increase diabetes and increase literacy and messaging across the board. it's difficult to do that. you have to be compelled and inspired to move. that's what we'll be doing in louisiana, inspiring and compelling people to move. >> when i hear the doctor reference the tuskegee experiment, it reminds me of

your peace in the rolling stone. as much as this about the social construct, it's about a history of distrust. how is that playing out in this moment in. >> we see african-americans, having what we're staugt from the very beginning of doctors, of medicine saying i'm not going the doctor even if i'm feeling symptoms. it's an unfortunate consequence of legacy of medical mistreatment and systemic racism in this country. i don't blame people for having that kind of doubt. i think what the doctor says is right. we do have to take some ownership of this moment and we need to say to ourselves, if we are feeling symptom, if we have a cough, a temperature, we need to call a doctor and get to the hospital. that being said, there are factors that predate and predate president trump considerably and

he very conveniently says i don't understand why this is happening. i don't understand why there's a disproportionate effect on african-american communities. he's been part of exacerbating that affect with his policies. we need to take that and hold him to account for that. it's as much a fail ing in this crisis as it is all the thinks he's failed to do in the last few months. all things we has done up until now we need to understand them as kribcontributing to this cry issues. whether it's signing people up for obama care, opposing people to receiving food stamps. all the things this administration has done to consciously exacerbate this. we need to clue that as part of the reason why we're seeing to many african-american deaths and disproportional latino deaths as

well. >> we were speaking about the privilege of social distancing. >> working from home is a privilege that not many americans have. social distancing is a privilege not many have. there are so many in our community their work was minimized and thought of as unimportant and now we deem them as essential workers. we have to make sure that we're doing everything that we can to back that recognition now. >> courtney, in the absence of social distancing, which is incredibly hard for essential workers, nearly impossible for them to do their jobs. what protections need to be put in place to keep them and their families safe? >> i think it's important for us to ask the question why are people not able to social distance. that might include the types of

work that they are engaged in such as essential workers. they should have the same personal protection equipment as the health care workers are using. not only should they be provided the equipment, they should be properly trained. they shouldn't be touching their phones while wearing their gloves,e est cetera. i think it expands beyond the type of work people do. people are limited in terms h s they can distance within their household. four or five people living in one, two bedroom apartments. one person gets sick, it gets exacerbated very quickly. we're talking about black and brown people who are most vulnerable and most likely to be working in these essential roles without having the right protections in place. >> earlier this week the surgeon general had some advice for communities of color. take a listen.

>> avoid alcohol, tobacco and drugs. check in on your mother. she wants to hear from you right now. speaking of mothers, we need you to do this, if not for yourself, then for your abuela. do it for your grand daddy, your big mama, do it for your pop pop. we need you to understand especially in communities of color, we need you to step up and help stop the spread so we can protect those who are most vulnerable. >> your response to that message. >> i think it's language that is steeped in racism and while i would not call the surgeon racist because we don't need to get into that debate. what he is talkings about is we need to take personal responsible wholly for the consequences of this pandemic on our communities which is entirely ignoring the systemic factors kribtsing to it and also makes the entire community

unsafe. we need to understand the character of this disease is one that is teaching us a lesson about how racism and white supremacy work in this country. white supremacy doesn't just hurt the community who is it marginallizes. it hurts the white people who it claims to lift up and prioritize. in this particular instance, we have a disease that is commune cable whether or not you want to blame african-americans for their own plight. they can spread it to very community you're seeking to protect with the triumpian policies this administration promotes. we need to worry not too much whether a person like jerome adams is necessarily racist or not. >> all right. thank you all so much.

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estimates 29,000 daca resip yentss are working in health care jobs across the country right now including 3400 nurses. in june the supreme court is expected to rule on the trump administration's attempt to repeal the program that allows undocumented immigrants who came to the u.s. as children to avoid deportati deportation. let's bring in a nurse and law student in new york and a paramedic in houston. both of them daca recipients. so good to see both you have. you are a nurse. you work with children. what are you seeing in the midst of this pandemic? >> thank you so much for having me to discuss such a really important issue that's affecting hundreds of thousands of recipients, their families and communities they have been contributing to their entire lives. o woi work in foster care as a

nurse. in terms of physically what's happening it's taking a huge emotion emotionalal. it is taking a toll, caring for families that are not well but also responding to the new system in terms of the pandemic and the stress that comes with being involved in this. >> jesus, as a paramedic, how has this impacted your work? >> yeah, so, i'm a paramedic just in a county north of houston. it's definitely impacted us greatly. we're seeing a higher call volume of patients with respiratory illness. we have to take a lot more precautions which is just different for us. this is a virus unlike we have ever seen in houston. we have dealt with other big emergencies like harvey. i'm confident the community can

pull together and defeat this one. now on the immigration end, we have been dealing back and forts wi -- forth with the administration, the courts. it's kind of frustration. we're out here helping our communities and doing what we can do combat this pandemic. we're on the front lines as immigrants, as health care workers, as first responders and the administration is doing everything they can to remove us from the country. it's disheartening, disappointing. i hope the country can see we're an important role in this country and we're committed and essential people in this country. >> this is such a difficult moment for so many people and part of what makes it difficult is there's so much uncertainty that we keep talk about when this is over, and yet we don't know when it will be over. to have all of that uncertainty,

be a healthcare provider and have so much personal uncertainty because you're not sure whether or not you will be able to continue to stay and work in this country legally. what has that meant for you in your day-to-day as you navigate this pandemic? >> it has been stressful, of course for myself and hundreds of thousands of daca recipients. this stress isn't new to us. daca has always been a temporary program. we were forced to plan our lives in two year increments. when this administration attempted to revoke it, it's only being held up in place because of advocates and legal cases that have brought us to this place. the uncertainty and difficult around this is very real. it's definitely at the fore front of our minds and it's something we have been dealing with. at this time, i think it's

really, really important for the supreme court to make the right decision, to understand that hundreds of thousands of daca recipients, not just health care workers but essential workers. those workers in the food supply chain, keeping our communities fed, sanitation workers are valuable and the hundreds of thousands of daca recipients and their family that have been contributing to this community their entire lives. in the immediate, the supreme court must do the right thing and make a ruling in favor of upholding these protections for daca recipients. long term, we need a long term solution. the next round of relief needs to include undocumented immigrants. i think beyond that we need come prehence iive immigration reforo we're not just kraecreating the

short term fixes. we don't know when this will end. a permanent solution. the reality is no one stands a alone. health care workers to be in the field for the essential workers to be out there, they have their entire families and communities upholding them and supporting them. it's really important they are recognized. >> all right. thank you both so much. up next, it's usually a time of coming together. christians around the world had to chapg thenge their easter pl this year. we'll show you how they are celebrating, next.

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gathering for seders through zoom. at the cathedral in italy, andrea bochcelli performing a live-streamed concert. we are in this together, hand in hand, looking for ways to stay connected while keeping a safe distance. nabs's matt brady is in vatican city with a look at how easter sunday was celebrated today. >> really an emotional service this morning from pope francis at the vatican. normally, he would be speaking to a packed st. peter's square, tens of thousands, as then as 100,000 people filling that square. instead, as one vatican official told me, it's filled with prayers. this is one of the lines we are hearing from vatican officials from a lot of the clergy here in rome, they hope this will spark what the called in his words today the contagion of hope. a pandemic of prayer. they are actually seeing a bit of optimism in this. they are hoping that as people withdraw into their homes as

they look to their families and care workers for support, that they are going to refocus their faith, that they are going to see something of a resurrection of faith on easter. and that's something that the pope hit on in his words today and something we are hearing from a lot of religious leaders really throughout the world. it comes at an interesting and important moment here in italy. we have been seeing the numbers leveling off and dropping for the last several weeks, but just today we saw just over 400 deaths, those new numbers that came out here in italy. that's the lowest number of deaths in the last 24 hours that we have seen for more than three weeks. so that's an important milestone that comes just as italy was supposed to be lifting their nationwide lockdown tomorrow. instead, they have extended that now for three weeks, and it just goes to show that the italian authorities don't want to go back on the progress they have made so far. they are very anxious about returning to the massive blood letting that we saw in the last

couple of weeks. we want to keep up the progress that they have made so far and maintain that flattened curve. they are worried if they let people out into the streets at once, once again there could be a massive secondary wave of infections. and so that's something that a lot of authorities here are going to be looking at and authorities in the states going to be looking at as they start to decide when, if at all, in the next couple of weeks they will lift that nationwide lockdown like they did here in italy. >> and matt bradley at the vatican, thank you so much. that wraps it up. the reverend al sharpton takes over at the top of the hour. he will speak with dr. anthony fauci, a leading member of the president's coronavirus task force next on "politicsnation." for the future. shouldn't your toothpaste do the same for your mouth? now with crest pro/active defense, future proof your whole mouth. its active defense technology neutralizes bacteria to shield against potential issues.

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♪ good evening and welcome to "politicsnation" on this easter sunday. tonight's lead, ground zero. this weekend the united states became the world leader in both cases of and deaths from the coronavirus pandemic. more than 21,000 americans have now died from this virus. known cases of covid-19 in the u.s. totaling more than 520,000.

no race or demographic shown to be immune. but even as we continue to grapple with this new normal and parse through what limited data we have to go on, we cannot simply gloss over the toll that this virus has already taken on a black community that was staring down poor health outcomes before all of this happened. add to that a virus that forces people to choose between staying home and staying alive, or going to work and possibly facing death. and it makes the most brutal sense that black america has become what some have called ground zero for this outbreak. it's a crisis within a crisis, a pandemic within a pandemic, and as numbers from the cdc and the public health community increasingly show, we are only

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