monday night as we start a new week. on behalf of all of my colleagues at the networks of nbc news, good night from our temporary field headquarters. good morning, everybody. we're going to begin with president trump's declaration of his total authority to decide when and how he has authority to decide when states close and open and begin to move the economy. it began with this tweet. some in the fakes news media are saying it is the governor's decision to open up the united states not that of the federal government but that of the states. this is incorrect. it is the decision of the president and for many good

reasons. hours later, seven governors from the northeast announced plans to coordinate their reopening efforts. then came the president's longest and most combative to date coronavirus briefing. where he lashed out to the press and defended his claim to broad executive authored over the states. watch this. >> what provision in the constitution gives the power to open or close state economies? >> numerous provisions. we'll give you a legal brief if you want. >> ordered schools closed, it's been states that have ordered -- >> because i would have referred them. i let that happen. but if i wanted to, i could have closed it up. >> the president of the united states has the authority to do what the president of the united states wants to do.

they can't do anything without the approval of the united states. when somebody is the president of the united states, the authority is total. and that's the way it has to be. >> you said when someone is president of the united states, their authority is total. that is not true. >> you know what we're going to do? we're going to write-up papers on this. it's not going to be necessary because the governors need us one way or the other. >> by the way, he was asked to give constitutional evidence to support his claim. he had none. new york governor andrew cuomo gave there response last night. >> if they came out with -- if, hypothetical. if the president came out with a plan that i believed was irresponsible and could jeopardize the public health of the people of the state of new york, i would oppose it legally, period. >> so the coronavirus death toll has surpassed another grim

milestone in new york. now more than 10,000 people have died since the outbreak began. 671 new yorkers died on sunday. which is about 100 less than the day before. meanwhile, the empire state continues to edge closer to 200,000 virus cases as the dizzying death rate in hospitalizations trend downward. governor andrew cuomo says the worst of this nightmare may be over, but will never be forgotten. >> 2700 lives were lost in 9/11 and 9/11 changed every new yorker who was in a position to appreciate on that day what happened. and the number of lives lost was horrific after 9/11. and the grief was horrific. and we are at 10,000 deaths. we can control the spread. feel good about that. the worst is over.

yeah, if we continue to be smart going forward, because, remember, we have the hand on that valve. you turn that valve too fast, you'll see that number jump right back. >> by the way, governor cuomo is going to be a guest later on "morning joe." so you do not want to miss that interview. the number of coronavirus cases confirmed worldwide is quickly reaching 2 million. but there are some signs that national lockdown measures are working. shops, bars and public spaces remain closed in spain until april 26th. in france, health officials say the number of patients in intensive care units has begun to decline. in the uk, the health secretary warned that the country has not yet reached the peak of the

outbreak. and in south korea, at least 116 people who had been cleared of the virus have tested positive again. according to reuters, those positive tests could be attributed to faulty testing or the virus could have been reactivated. instead of patients being reinfected. at the request of president trump, south korea plans to send 600,000 test kits to the united states. the first shipment is expected today. let's get into a bit of this. joining me now, cal perry. great on >> tim: you this morning, cal, as always. talking first about the prime minister boris johnson out of the hospital, great news on that end. what is lying ahead for the uk as they say? they have not necessarily hit their peak as of yet. >> yeah, good morning, yasmin. so unlike in new york, the worst seems like it's still to come here in the united kingdom. dominic raab who is now playing the role of prime minister while the prime minister recovers, he's out at checks, it's about

40 miles northwest of london. it's a country estate that should give him some room to walk around and recuperate. but dominic raab saying it's way too early to ease those restrictions. the government has admitted that it has really come up short on testing. this is the key around the world. it is the key here in the united kingdom. they want to be testing 1 hunl,000 people per day here. at the most, they're getting about 17 to 18,000. the death toll is still at an unbelievable level, 737 people died in the last 24 hours. over 11,000 have died in total. and one of the things that's becoming a concern here is that the government may not be counting those who are dieing in care facilities. we heard just in the last 12 hours that over 2,000 care facilities have seen outbreaks and we just don't have good numbers on that. there is a growing concern that that death toll is going to be far higher once we start looking at those care facilities.

unlike in spain, things here in the united kingdom likely to stay on lockdown for at least another three weeks. >> before we get to spain, cal, how widespread is the testing right now in the uk? how easy is it to get tested? >> it's incredibly difficult to get testing. they wanted to test everybody who works in the nhs, the national health service. they haven't been able to do that. take the prime minister's fiancee. she's pregnant. she had symptoms of the virus. she got very sick. she was unable to get a test. so testing is not widespread. and there's some concern that some of these tests may not work. you mentioned south korea. it is sort of the perfect example. as we sort of struggle, humans, humanity struggles to get a grasp on this virus to find out what it's really doing to see if our bodies will create those antibodies that will allow us to not get sick. again, there's a concern that some of those tests don't work. here in the united kingdom, it is vital that the national health care workers get tested. we only saw 2,000 of them get

tested on sunday. still testing is not widely available here. >> okay. so i want to talk quickly about spain. a lot of americans obviously looking to spain right now as they're rolling back some of their guidelines, getting partially their economy back up and running. so talk us through exactly what has been going on in spain over the last 24 hours or so. who exactly is at this point able to go back to work? so nonessential workers who cannot work from home, we're talking almost exclusively about construction workers, manufacturing, and people who work in factories. people who cannot work at home. if you live in spain and you can still work at home, the government is requiring that you do so. they're putting into effect all of these social distancing measures. so if you work on a construction site, you're going to be six feet away from the people that you work with. you're going to be at six feet away minimum from the public. the other thing happening in spain is they are handing out masks. 10 million masks will be handed

out to the public on subways. as people go to work, you'll see a police officer there, he'll hand you a mask. that is something people are hoping will make a big difference there. spain has been hit hard, not just the death toll, but the economy. a million jobs lost in a country that has a population around 45 million, 46 million. so the country is eager to get some of these manufacturing sectors back to work. but wide scale, they're not going back just yet. the key is, if you can work from home in spain, the government is saying you need to do so. there's been some good news there. we saw 619 dead on sunday, 517 dead on sunday. almost a hundred difference there. if that trend continues, we could see more opening up. again, this is really important. when spain went into lockdown on march 16th, the uk did not. france went in the next day.

there is an incredible amount of pressure here in the uk to go into lockdown. people were traveling and that was what was cause something of the outbreaks to occur, some of these spikes to happen. so europe is going to need to have this conversation regionally. as i said, it doesn't do much good for spain to go back to work, for the uk to stay locked down and vice versa. >> and it's interesting that you bring that up. it seems as if that is why the governors in the northeast are trying to have a coalition and make decisions together as to when to start to roll back guidelines. it's easily traveled between new york, connecticut, pennsylvania, so as they want to be@same page as they roll back these guidelines to stop the spread. cal perry, great to see you, my friend. still ahead, it will be the first for the supreme court.

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welcome back. the u.s. supreme court will resume oral arguments next week by phone. the court announced of the cases canceled due to the coronavirus, 10 arguments will be held in the first two weeks of may with the justices and counsel on conference call. among the cases chosen are several pertaining to religious freedom including fight against the mandate to provide contraception in health care plans to its nursing home employees. the court will tackle whether presidential electors must cast

their ballot for the candidate who woven the state's popular vote and whether the president may withhold their tax returns. the state's closure is only the third in its history. the first was during the spanish throw and the second was when anthrax was found in a mail room. cases not heard in may will be rescheduled for the fall. the court will make audio recordings available to the public. let's get into a couple of these now. joining me now, danny cevallos. a couple of these arguments are going to matter a lot in an election year, starting with the one that we have talked about on the air over and over again. and that is the release of the president's business records and the president's tax returns. >> the issue here is really

twofold. in one case, you have a new york grand jury subpoenaing information from a third party company that handled trump's finances. in the other case, you have something similar, a congressional committee issuing demands for information, again, to a third party. and the challenge for trump here is no one is actually demanding the information from the president. instead, they're demanding the information from a third party. and that's why the trump team has an uphill battle here because they can't extend that presidential protection bubble to third parties that may have worked on his accounts or done business for him. that i think is going to be the challenge and that is why i think the trump team loses on this appeal. >> so let's talk about this other one. a couple of colorado presidential electors basically and the case here is do they have to cast their vote for the person who won the popular vote in their state.

talk about this and how sequential it could be in an election year, as well. >> this is called the faithless elector case. and the issue is in states where electors are required by state law to cast a vote for the majority winner in that state, whether or not those laws are unconstitutional, whether they unfairly restrict that elector's right to vote as he or she sees fits. this is a case that is going to define what exactly electors are in our country, an important case in an election year. >> and finally, the little sisters case. it's been a while since we've heard about this one. so talk us through some of the details on this and where it could feasibly land. >> the affordable care act requires employers to provide contraception.

there was a carve out for nonprofit religious employers who could object and not provide contraception. over time, that exemption has expanded gradually. and the issue -- first issue is whether or not that's in violation of the affordable care act. but secondly, the actual agencies that have issued these regulations, the second issue is whether or not issuing these regulations, expanding this bubble of exemption from the affordable care act, whether that is also in violation of law. >> all right. danny sa val yos, as always, great to see you you, my friend. still ahead, after retweeting a post that called for the firing of dr. anthony fauci, president trump is trying to tamp down speculation that he wants him out. we'll show you those new comments, coming up next. you tw comments, coming up next ills? flonase sensimist. nothing stronger.

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welcome back. just one day after promote ago tweet that called for the firing of dr. anthony fauci, president trump is dismissing the suggestion that he is seeking to push him out. >> today i walk in, i hear i'm going to fire him. i'm not firing him. i think he's a wonderful guy. >> why did you -- >> fire fauci. >> i retweeted somebody. i don't know. they said fire him. it doesn't matter. >> did you notice that when you retweeted him? >> yeah. i notice everything. >> so you retweeted it even though it said time to fire -- >> to, that's somebody's opinion. all that is an opinion. i was told about that. i said i'm not firing him. if you ask your friends in the public relations office, i was immediately called upon that and i said no, i like him. i think he's terrific. because this was a person's view. not everybody is happy with anthony. not everybody is happy with everybody. >> then why retweet something that said #firefauci? but the white house putting out

a statement reading in part this, to clear things up. the media chatter is ridiculous. president trump is not firing dr. fauci. the president's tweet clearly exposed media attempts to maliciously push a falsehood about his china decision in an attempt to rewrite history. dr. fauci has been and remains a trusted adviser to president trump. we're going to be watching this relationship pretty closely as it unfolds. with that, let's bring in nbc meteorologist bill karins. bill, you're tracking the number for us as always with regards to tracking the spread of the coronavirus. also looking at weather for us as we deal with the aftermath of some of those horrific storms yesterday. >> yeah. crazy. we got some incredible pictures. i'll show you those in a second. first, let me give you the really, really positive trend that we started yesterday. so this is the step graph that goes and shows you how we've been progressing. right now, the growth rate is down to 5%, which is great. and you noticed the highest levels were about a week ago. we thought maybe possibly our

fingers were crossed that we hit the plateau for the number of new daily cases last week. and look at yesterday. all the way to the far right is the number of new cases yesterday. so we're going down the stairs. now, we hope to keep that trend. of course we have the holiday weekend so we're looking to see if it goes back up a little bit. but that was the positive trend. here is the curve. you can see the blue line is starting. it's starting just to flatten out a little bit. of course, we still had 26,000 new cases yesterday. remember, about 4% of those new cases will end up in fatalities. so there's still some dramatic numbers that have to come in the days ahead. as far as new cases went, it's the typical new york, new jersey, massachusetts high on the list. connecticut added to the top six for the first time yesterday with more than 1,000 new cases. illinois has been heart hit, too. they added another 1,000 yesterday. let's go to the weather. here is the first shot of the map showing this huge storm as it went across the country. let me show you the pictures from mississippi yesterday. this is where we got confirmation of an ef-4 tornado

that went through. it's almost one of the highest that you get on the scale. >> wow. >> we had things that she just crushed, destroyed. we know we had over 30 fatalities from this storm from when we went from sunday into monday. yesterday morning alone, we had nine fatalities, the hardest hit areas, louisiana, mississippi, and areas of south carolina. today, it's cold. we have snow this morning in north texas and oklahoma. it's one of those april mornings where it's very chilly, but it will get better. we're going to see snow coming down in wyoming and montana. so we totally shifted our focus here. so for today, anyone out there try to go and do some yard work or anything around their house, maybe a stroll around their block, chilly in the midwest. but compared to that huge storm, things are dramatically improved. no more severe weather widespread this week. >> yeah. i mean, those images are completely devastating. having to deal with that along

with the pandemic, it is a lot. bill karins, thank you, as always. still ahead, senator bernie sanders endorses joe biden. we're going to show you his new comments in support of the vice president. but the president defends his administration's response to the coronavirus pandemic with a campaign-style video. attacking reporters. those stories and a lot more, coming up. g reporters. those stories and a lot more, coming up.

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from the stay at home orders. the first announcement came yesterday on the east coast. new york governor cuomo said his state along with new jersey, connecticut, pennsylvania, delaware, rhode island and massachusetts, each plan to name a public health and income official to help with the reopening plan. each governor's chief of staff will be a part of that group. now, later in the day, california, washington and oregon also announced they would be joining forces to plan to ease stay at home restrictions. the group said they will study data and research from other countries in order to come up with a consistent plan. the governors made the announcements just hours after the president announced on twitter that it was his decision to decide when to open up these states, adding that he was working closely with the states and that a decision would be made shortly. so president trump also used yesterday's coronavirus briefing to defend his administration's handling of the pandemic. under dimmed lights in the white

house briefing room, trump played a video highlighting his actions to confront the virus showing a number of fox news hosts down playing the outbreak and governors praising his response. however, the "new york times" points out the video largely skipped over february and early march. when public health experts were saying the administration failed to provide enough testing for the virus and did not act quickly enough to promote social distancing and prevent its spread. so after playing the video montage at yesterday's white house briefing, the president was pressed about what his administration actually did in the month of february to contain or to mitigate the virus. here is what he had to say. what did you do with the time that you bought? that gap, the whole month of february? >> what do you do when you have no case in the whole united states -- >> you had cases. >> excuse me. you reported it. zero cases, zero deaths on

january 17th. >> january. but for the entire month of february -- i said in january. >> you had a complete gap -- what did your administration do in february for the time that your travel ban -- >> a lot. a lot. in fact, we'll give you a list. part of it was up there. we did a lot. look, look, you know you're a fake, you know that? the whole network, the way you cover it is fake. >> wow. okay. joining me once again from white house and washington reporter for politico, daniel lippman. great to see you this morning. i'm happy to have you. let's talk about some of that briefing from yesterday evening. wow. there were so many moments. i'm not quite sure where to begin. let's start with what we just heard from the president basically defending his lack of action with regard to trying to mitigate the spread of the pandemic. it seems as if he is trying to shift the blame to the media

away from his own administration inside of an election year. the scientists and, doctors were all concerned about all of this. while they did take that china travel ban, he assumed that would be enough and he did not have a good answer for what he did in february because he was kind of resting on his laurels, didn't think that this would actually hit the u.s. there is tape of the president saying this is merely just the

flu. we have a couple of cases in this country, but it will be at zero in a couple of days. and the biden camp could reasonably use this right from the picking when it comes to a 2020 election. >> i'm sure that they're working on that right now. they're going to look at statements from peter navarro where he says, oh, yeah, we were working on this in trump time, record time, when they're going to say, we have thousands of deaths every day. how has this helped america? and i think he thought that he could just talk this virus away and he could bully it. but a virus does not care about tweets. it does not respond to trump's usually statements which do sometimes take their human targets down. >> daniel, i mentioned this a couple of minutes ago. during that press briefing, the ptd claimed that he has no plans

to fire dr. anthony foudo you h. do you think despite all of this the criticism of fauci will lessen? >> i don't think it will lessen. conservatives want to blame someone for the economy we have today. they're going to blame fauci or other doctors instead of trump. he's a civil servant. trump has always said he will listen to the scientists, but he'll make his mind up. so i think there's probably a middle balance there.

it's interesting to see that he is claiming total authority when this is not something that's going to be recognized by the supreme court. >> let's hope. as we say over and over again, the two voices he listens to the most are dr. fauci and dr. birx. meanwhile, the country of brazil is leading the south america in the number of coronavirus in south america. however, the brazilant president has been seen taking selfie fans and has suggested people should still be at work and walking through their cities. now advocacy groups are speaking out, human rights watching releasing reports this weekend detailing the president's missteps and failures in respond to go this pandemic. joining us now, nbc news correspondent willem marks. great to see you today. talk about bolsonaro and it

seems as if his complete and total disregard for social distancing, for putting guidelines in place to stop the spread of the pandemic in brazil. >> yeah, it's pretty extraordinary. i spoke to a lot of brazilian doctors over the last week or so, right across the country, people working in emergency rooms, intensive care patients and some lung specialists, as well. a lot of them seeing a huge number of patients. they described it was frustrating having a president who goes on tv and undermines these social distancing restrictions. a president who walks around the streets, who goes to grab coffee, they said it was catastrophic when he spoke of this being just a mild flu and they said they were struggling against the message he was sending out day by day. human rights watch, over the weekend, out with this report talking about the fact that he was sabotaging the country's

efforts to contain covid-19. i had a chance to catch up with the author of that human rights report. she's head of the brazil office. i asked her whether the leader of the country walking on the streets, going to bakeries to grab a coffee was having an impact. here is what she said. >> when the leader of brazil did not comply with all the recommendations, it makes people believe that they can also do the same. and that, especially, is more radical forwards which have questioned even what the media has been saying in relation to what people should be doing to avoid the crisis become much bigger than it is right now. so he sets a very, very contradicting and dangerous example for all brazilians around the country.

he's not averd from fighting with other public authorities. he's threatened to fire his own minister of health who is the man responsible for respond to go this pandemic. the doctors i spoke to, though, said it was really distressing to hear him talk in the way he does about covid-19, behave in the way he does and looking at the situation of brazil right now with more than 1200 recorded deaths, a new study out over the last couple of days showing brazil might have eight times more cases than have so far been recorded. >> is there any reasoning for bolsonaro's flagrant disregard for some of these guidelines, especially when he has watched what is taking place here in the united states and with boris johnson testing positive and ending up in the icu? >> it's a really good question. it's one i asked of a lot of people in the country over the course of the last week.

some of them said he has now started to soften his rhetoric, even though he was seen out just a few days ago in brazil, grabbing a coffee and posing for these selfies. they said they've seen his polls plummet when it comes to popularity. highly respected individual among the medical community and ordinary brazilians. and it may be, they said, his advisers advising him to tone it down, soften things a little bit about this. but he's a very stubborn man, they said. so when he 40e8dz toholds to a s difficult to move him in another direction. >> stubbornness in leadership. something we are quite familiar with here. still ahead, joed biden's presidential campaign gets a boost by an endorsement from his greatest primary rival. your first look at "morning joe" is back in a moment. your first look at "morning joe" is back in a moment.

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welcome back. senator bernie sanders announced his endorsement of joe biden during a virtual campaign event yesterday afternoon. >> i am asking all americans, i'm asking every democrat, i'm asking every democrat, i'm asking a lot of republican toes come together in this campaign to support your candidacy which i endorse to make certain that we defeat somebody who i believe -- and i'm speaking just for myself now -- is the most dangerous president in the modern history of this country. >> bernie, i want to thank you for that. it's a big deal. and, you know, i think your endorsement means a great deal. it means a great deal to me. i think people are going to be

surprised that we are apart on some issues, but we're awfully close on a whole bunch of others. and i think you've made -- if i am the nominee, which it looks like now you just made me -- i'm going to need you, not just to win the campaign, but to govern. >> and it seems it's going to be full speed ahead. with that for the former vice president with his eyes squarely on the white house. with that, let's switch gears, get a check once again on your weather with nbc meteorologist bill karins. hi, bill. >> hey, yasmin. yesterday we dealt with the severe whether the in the northeast. the worst of the day was by far in the south. let me show you some pictures from upson county in georgia. you can almost see the path of the tornado. obviously, you see the structure in the house below. but look at the tree damage, big trees splintered right at their base. six fatalities in georgia, 30 in

all throughout the storm's history in the south. the areas of concern today, north fwlr. a front has stalled. we have some thunderstorms early this morning. thunderstorms will be from gainesville, florida, ocala, to jacksonville. isolated tornado, maybe. nothing like we saw over the last couple of days. we could see a bit of heavy rain there, too. florida has been very hot, 97 yesterday in orlando. hottest temperature ever in april. the rest of the country, yasmin, looks a lot quieter. i think a lot of people will enjoy the break from what we just dealt with. >> thank you, bill. still ahead, consumer hoarding could reduce your choices at the super market. we're back in a moment. choices at the super market. we're back in a moment

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welcome back. many industries have taken major blows as the world adjust toes life in quarantine. but maybe one of the hardest hit

is the food as far as industry juliana is lieve with us this morning. >> so america's food supply chain is showing pandemic. one of the big reasons is that workers are falling ill everywhere along the food chain, from the meat processing plants, warehouses, to the grocery stores themselves. labor union leaders are saying we should expect disruption in the production and distribution of several products. pork, for example. industry leaders though are saying there is no need to panic. yes, we may have a situation where we're looking at reduced variety, but there will be enough food to eat. no need to panic. crucially, this is really important to note, there is no evidence that the virus can be transmitted through food or its packaging. that's according to the department of agriculture. no need to fear on that front. one part of the economy that is booming throughout this pandemic is amazon and the

ecommerce that is going through that giant. amazon is going to hire another 75,000 workers to deal with this increased demand. that comes on top of the 100,000 workers they set out to hire last month. they also are planning to resume the shipping of non-essential items this week. of course, i'm sure you're familiar, they halted last month shipping to prioritize essentials, like health care products and long shelf life foods. they're set to resume now non-essential shipping so third-parties can get back to work on that front. yasmin, back to you. >> i've got to say, food industry workers, part of the group of heros putting their lives on the line every single day to make sure we get through this. >> absolutely. >> julianna tatelbaum, live from london, great to see you. up next, axios' one big thing. coming up on "morning joe," as governors try to coordinate

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welcome back, everybody. joining us from washington with a look at axios a.m., political reporter for axios, alexi mcc mccammen. great to see you. talk to us about axios one big thing today. >> it's about joe biden, who is now the new presumptive democratic nominee after bernie sanders endorsed him. his resurgence is opening a new path for he, and how ultimately the democratic party, can defeat donald trump in the presidential election according to polls axios analyzed. that matters because if biden can keep up the general election matchup lead he so far accumulated over trump ahead of the general election, he could pick up key states in addition

to, you know, pennsylvania andmy i and wisconsin, like north carolina, florida, and arizona. they're all crucial states to the electoral college victory democrats need if they want to beat donald trump. you and i both know, it is not just about the popular vote anymore. it's about the electoral college. >> yeah, it certainly is. let's also talk about some of the reporting axios has been doing with regards to the pandemic. axios reporting that a lot of americans are now considering going to the grocery store as a risky act amidst the coronavirus pandemic. i can attest to this, as i do it once a week. it is probably the riskiest thing i do, aside from staying at home with my kids all day. talk to us about this. >> yeah. which, by the way, staying home with the kids is like a full-time job in and of itself, i'd imagine. going to the grocery store, that's right. seven to ten americans, according to our index, said they feel like going to the grocery store is risky. another kind of surprising stat that came up in the survey that

we did was that over half of the people who are still leaving their homes to do their jobs because they're considered essential jobs say they feel their job itself is risky. i think that speaks to the disparity and the way americans across the country are able to really handle coronavirus. because of the way we're split in terms of essential and non-essential jobs. or even how we have to go to the grocery store, which many people are fearful of. you don't know what someone else might be carrying or what you might be carrying. it is a mundane activity. it's something others are dreading. >> so you can't help but think as to whether or not the pandemic is going to be on voters' minds ahead of 2020. obviously, it will be. but will it be a major reason they head to the polls and vote for their respective candidate? as you mentioned earlier, sanders throwing his support behind the former vice president as the presidential nominee. they're now working together to defeat the current president.

what steps is biden going to be taking to really unite the democratic party and try and have record turnout here? >> i've reported for axios about how joe biden and senator bernie sanders have been talking for weeks about various sort of big truces on policies that biden could come to the table on. that the progressives want to see dlif edelivered from biden s campaign. we've learned according to biden and sanders themselves they're working on policy task forces that will help the two campaigns and their staffs come together, even though bernie's campaign ended. his staff and biden's staff are talking and working closely to work out details on things like education, the economy, criminal justice, immigration, health care, of course. these big issues that bernie sanders and joe biden care about, that they both have a view that has a similar end goal but different ways to get there. now, they're really working on

those two things. biden knows he needs to make some sort of concessions to get progressives over to his side. in the conversations i've had with prodepregressives who are to senator sanders, they want concrete deliverables. they don't want anything symbolic. they feel what they got after the 2016 election was the rule changes and the platform was great, but they feel it was symb symbolic. in 2020, they're looking for concrete deliverables in terms of policy concessions and personnel promises for a potential biden demonstration from the biden campaign. >> is there any evidence, alexi, that specifically on health care, because we know they are at odds over health care, both biden and sanders, is there any indication or evidence to suggest that biden is willing to wiggle or move or health care, especially amidst this pandemic and seeing how hard-hit the health care system has been in this country?

>> biden has said that he's not going to adopt something like medicare for all. it remains unlikely he'd do that, even though he and senator sanders are working together. certainly, yasmin, he did say that he was interested in talking about lowering the age for folks in america who are eligible for medicare. that is one health care concession we could see in terms of how they're working together on something like medicare. also, they're both interested in doing things like lowering prescription drug costs and making it easier to access health care. i think they'll work on those things. there's no chance biden will adopt something like medicare for all. i think senator sanders is aware of that. he's finding other ways that he can get concessions on health care. >> alexi mccammond, thank you, as always. great to see you. you can sign up for the newsletter at signup.axios.com. that does it for me on this tuesday morning. i am yasmin vossoughian. "morning joe" starts