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first up here on msnbc, the struggle to reopen yet stay safe. a grim side of hope in the hardest hit state. some beaches reopened in florida prompting a twitter backlash. a small step towards normal life for some. lessons learned from a virus hot spot. the study that shows covid-19 may be more widespread than previously thought. plus --

>> we started off with a broken system. we inherited a broken, terrible system. >> fact checking the president. i'm alex witt. thank you for joining us. this morning there are 730,000 cases of coronavirus across this country. more than 38,000 people have died. it comes after a paycheck protection program ran outside of funds last week leaving small business owners in limbo. here's what knapp sit pelosi had to say on abc. >> we're close. we had common ground. our cares one package was something we worked together in a bipartisan way springing from that and making it more effective and stronger so that

more people are benefitting from it. and protecting it. i think we're very close to agreement. >> more protests are expected today in cities across the co t country rallying against the stay at home orders. local leaders not backing down. governor newsome saying he will judge by science, not by politics. some states are starting to gradually ease predictions. including this beach you're seeing now. that's surf city. beach patrol will be on the scene to make sure everyone is still social distancing as that stay at home order are mains in effect. all walmart and sam's club employees will be required to wear face masks. that policy switch let's go to

monica alba at the white house sfr us. good morning, we have speaker pelosi saying law mmakers are vy close to reaching a deal. what are the sticking points to getting there? >> reporter: good morning, law make ers indicating they are closer and closer to an agreement with some members saying they may be headed back to washington to hash out some of the final details this week. but the disagreements continue because republicans the to pass what is known as a clean bill. an additional $250 billion for p ppe and democrats want the to add in another $100 billion for hospitals, $150 billion for states, plus more money for food assistance funding. so this comes after that initial pp, money ran out so quickly after overwhelming demand for the funds. president trump for his part is blaming speaker pelosi for what

he says is the hold up. these continue to be bipartisan negotiations. take a listen to how he framed it in last night's briefing. >> the paycheck protection program saved an estimated 15 million jobs. democrats specifically nancy ploeps pelosi have been block that funding. do you know why? >> i don't think it's good politics. we're giving small businesses that won't make it -- they can't because they are closed. we're giving them money to take care of employees. when they open, they can get back into business. it's been a popular plan. i think it basically passed unanimously twice the first section, which is $350 billion. so we're trying to get $250. >> we know negotiations have continued over the weekend. i expect to do so in the coming days. and the most part the president has been talking about speaker pelosi, but negotiations continue between chuck schumer and treasury secretary mnuchin,

who has been the main continue wit for the white house. we heard from so many small business owners who continue to tell us they tried to get in object the first wave of funding. and hope hfl thful this resolve and it's a matter of businesss on the line. they are not happy hoping that the politics continues too much longer. >> thank you so much. let's go to new york. that's where hospitals are experiencing a slight ease. although the number of cases in the state is almost 237,000 with more than 17,000 new yorkers dying from covid-19. the state also marked the lowest daily number of deaths in more than a week. kory kaufman is joining me. you got to mix the good news and the bad. >> reporter: a little bit of both. there's the light at the end of the tunnel that we have been talking about.

and now this is the first real sign that possibly we're getting beyond that plateau. some medical workers droibing it as a breath of air because these admissions into the hospital are now down. as you mentioned, still very high. about 2,000 a day. but the death rate is off of what its peak was. overnight yesterday, we saw 540 deaths. that is down from the peak between 750 to 800 souls lost daily that we saw last week. listen in on what he had to say. >> if you lock at the past three days, you could argue that we are past the plateau and we're starting to descend. >> the hospital is still full. and still running at max capacity. but the emergency department is definitely a little less cob jessicaed. let's hope it stays this way.

>> reporter: that's right. let's hope it continues to go down. icu admissions are also down. intubations are down across the board. we hope that slope continues down that rate. and the governor also talked about the infection rate going down in new york. originally in the infection rate was per person inaffordable care acting about 1.4 people on average. that's .9. if we move too quickly, that will g back up, if it goes beyond 1.2, we'll see a rise again. despite the fact there's some reduction, they are standing by the needing volunteers coming in and seeing more and more from around the country. >> thank you so much. jersey shore beach towns are going it look very different this sum er mer in the wake of pandemic. officials say piers and

boardwalks could remain closed until july. let's go to atlantic city, new jersey. an empty boardwalk on a sunday morning behind you. going to have to get used to that look, i think. >> reporter: yeah, this boardwalk is one of the only ones along the jersey shore that's remained open. the mayor wants to give residents access to exercise as long as they practice proper social distancing. the rest of the town is very quiet. almost luk a ghosttown like we have seen across the country these days. the mayor telling me he's advising people with second homes or looking down to come for seasonal rentals to stay away because the governor told us that jersey will likely not reopen until june or july. now even when that happens, during this process of phase reopening, we'll see restaurants at 50%. people getting temperature checks, still wearing masks and gloves. we got a glimmer of hope overnight. the new york and new jersey

governors announcing boat yards will be opening for personal use. but right now, everyone needs to maintain social distancing and keep working on flattening the curve. here even though in southern jersey the numbers aren't as high, new jersey's overall number is still rise iing. so nobody is looking ahead to opening any time soon. you'll see the pier is closed. casinos across town also shuddered. that's one of the top employers in the city. i spoke with the the mayor and he expressed sadness with people who had to get laid off. and the restaurants and businesses that really depend on the summer business. but like other local officials we have seen, the mayor offering a sense of resilience here in atlantic city. take a listen. >> we just decided to final usually get it the test kits.

we expect that the numbers will rise and we just got to get through this. this is unchartered territory. we have to stay strong. tough times won't last. tough people do. >> reporter: atlantic city has seen its fair share of tough times. the last couple years some economic hardship they have brought themselves out of. business owners saying last summer was the best they have seen in 30 years. while they check often for weather, they could not prepare for a pandemic like this. >> us bet you'll see folks out walking there. it's a beautiful day there. but awhile before you see the ferries wheel turning. thank you for that. let's go a new study that suggests a lot more coronavirus cases than we thought. it's part of a report from erin mclaughlin. >> reporter: a study from stanford university tested 3300 people in santa claire county, an early virus hot spot. up to 4% of county has covid-19

antibodies. proteins produced after infection from the virus. injecting a number of cases could be up to 85 times higher than the official count. >> joining me is a public health practice from johns hopkins. thank you forring with here. let's get to the results of the study. 48,000 and 81,000 people might have been affected with covid-19 in santa claire county alone, which is far higher than the official numbers. what are your thoughts on that? >> these studies are very important to understand how far the virus has reached within different communities. there's actually data in new york. but still 5% of the population is not that many. which is the reason why we still need social distancing restrictions because if you want to release them, the others

would be at risk. >> what about the testing though? how widespread should that be before we begin to reopen the country? should we, can we test everyone? >> the estimates we're at a third of the testing capacity. it's very important that nursing homes having outbreaks have access to tests right away. first responders, health care workers, the sickest patients and everybody who has symptoms should be tested very rapidly. that's really the goal for catching and trying to interrupt this spread. it's also an opportunity as we emerge to test people in certain environments, even if they don't have symptoms. we'll have to learn more about the role of testing. >> so doctor, we have heard so much about the potential promise of having antibodies. but you are the world health organization warning that having antibodies doesn't guarantee

long-term immunity. does it change the equation on whether we can rely on tests for guidance before we reopen? >> i think it's not immunity. many of them are making all kinds of claims for them. how much you need to have to get how much immunity, we don't foe that either. there's probably a chance of immunity. they have to figure it out. the risk is if people rely on tests that aren't measuring what

they say they are measuring, they could be putting themselves at risk. >> last question. how much does coronavirus that which we know, you say appropriately so it is emerging science here, but from what we know, how much does this mirror other viruss that are more common like the flu? or is this a thing of its own? >> it's a thing of its own. it's certainly unlike the flu, none of us have any immunity. it really can spread quickly. it's also clearly more lethal than the flu. it's a different virus. we have to figure out our way through this one. >> thank you so much. president trump's support, is he driving demonstrators to the streets and could that be dangerous. my bladder leak pad?

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pretty as a picture in zipts. the sunrising there and a calm sky. high temperature expect ed in cincinnati about 60 degrees. showers are expected as well. on the coronavirus front, the number of cases just topped 10,000. this morning the president standing by his tweets calling for the liberation of three states. including michigan where protesters have been rallying against the lockdowns. president trump even launching new criticism allege iing some restrictions have too tough. pz. >> when you look at, i mean, i'm getting along very nicely with the governor of michigan, but don't buy paint or roses, she has all tleez craze these crazy things. i believe somebody sitting in a boat in a lake should be okay. they shouldn't arrest people. some of them are being unreasonable. >> joining me now is michigan

democratic congressman dan kildee. you heard the president saying michigan's restrictions are unreasonable. do you agree with him? >> i don't agree with him. the go governor has imposed ab executive order that saves lyes. michigan is the 10th largest state in the united states. but we have the third highest number of deaths. and this executive order, which is intended to keep people safe, to keep people at home, to minimize the newsroom of people that have to go to work to support some of these activities that the president refers to, is work iing. it is working. so why would we decide in this sta state, why would we decide an order that's working and saving lives because it's inconvenient to a few people should be set awe side. if we do that, more people are infected. if more people are infected,

more michigan residents will die. governor is doing the right thing to save lives. >> congressman, as we are speaking of you, we are locking a at video of protesters carrying signs. in terms of what you're hearing, how much are they agitating against these restrictions? are there any that you think go too far? >> no, when it comes to saving lives, it's just kind of ab interesting notion to go too far to save lives. this is the situation we're in. it's rare we're in a moment as policymakers when the stakes are so clearly defined along those lines. so no, i think what we have in place is effective, it's reasonable and the protesters have every right to protest. we have a long tradition of protest in this country.

but to go to lansing from all over the state, to not have on masks, to interact with one another and then go back to their homes and take with them whatever exposure they may have had is the height of selfishness and irresponsibility. protest is fine. have your say. long tradition of that. i have been a part of protests over my career. but this goes beyond that. this is about flaunting their protests in a way that intended to paint a picture with these restrictions are too strict. and it undermines what people ought to really be focusing on. let's see this through. we're talking about a few weeks out of our entire lifetimes to save the lives of some of our fellow citizens. i think it's okay to not go out on the boat f that means somebody has to come into work to help service that boat or to not have certain aspects of the

economy working in order for those folks who would otherwise have to go to work to stay home and protect their families. that's what this is about. these executive orders are intended to minimize the number of people that have to go to work and are in a position to make that trade between protecting their families and their community and participating in the workplace. we're talking about a few weeks to save lives. >> perspective there. i want to have you listen to what was said by the michigan attorney general responding to the tweet. she said it here on msnbc. here's part of that. >> i think that the president needs to spend less time thinking about liberating michigan from whatever his percei perceived enemies are here and more time thinking about liberating us from the

coronavirus. and making certain that we're now liberating the coronavirus into all counties of the state, which is exactly what we're try og to prevent from happening here. >> interesting twist on the word liberate there. what's your reaction? >> it is exactly right. our liberties include liberty to be able in a society without being at unnecessary risk. if somebody wants to exercise that in a way that makes it more likely that somebody that i love will get sick and die, that's a trade off we have to make. we have a right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. those are important pribs presidentials we adhere to. let's not forget that the freedom to interact and function in society that does have liberties means that we have to allow other people to exercise theirs as well.

>> michigan democratic congressman dan kildee, thank you so much. stay well and safe. tonight on msnbc, governor gretchen whitmer joins us. in the meantime, it's called high-tech contact tracing and it involves using your phone. why that may work better in theory than in reality. we'll have that later. but first, here's something to love and get a peaceful, easy feeling to leave you with. that's a picture from the kitten rescue in los angeles. it's a sanctuary for homeless cats and kittens. so while we're all social distancing, clearly some are getting cozy together with their mama. i just love hitting the open road and telling people

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voice and speaking to their family, how amazing that is. just today we removed the tube of a patient. it's happy. >> we have seen tears, but that's a hopeful story from one of the many health care workers caring for coronavirus patients. more than 720,000 cases are confirmed here in the u.s. more than 38,000 people have died. in south korea today some positive news as officials announced the first single dugout daily increase in two months adding just eight cases, five of those were imported from overseas. back here in the u.s., kansas church service cans can resume no matter the crowd size for now. a federal judge blocked an order to limit religious services to no more than ten people. congregations must abide by the

social distancing rules and not using collection plates. the border will be closed for another month. the restribss have been in place for just over four weeks now. president trump said the border will be one of the fess fest to reopen when it's safe to do so. check out the scene at the beach yesterday after they allowed local leaders to open beaches. the activities on the beaches are limited to swimming, exercising, fishing, not any sunbathing. these images prompted #floridamorons on twitter. let's get to the big headlines. the boston sunday globe says by any measure, massachusetts is a definite hot spot for the virus. it has the third highest number of cases here in the united states. in westchester, pennsylvania, the sunday daily local news reports the worst week ever for the local quarter. in the sunday los angeles times,

the a nation behind the curve, thaw focus on early missteps in the management of the outbreak and on the right, contradiction and chaos from the white house as the crisis turns krcritical. next year or two, scientists foresee a long road awe head in the u.s. in the "washington post," people risk losing health care coverage and a vulnerable africa a lack of life-saving ventilators. it fears africa could be the next the hot spot after europe. two more big headlines today, a warning from the world health organization says there's no evidence that patients who survive coronavirus will have full immunity from reinfection. the numb of deaths some

countries begin to ease restrictions. parts of the u.s. depending on antibody tests to confirm immunity, get poeople back to work. is the world health organization contradicting this? what are they saying specifically? >> good morning to you. what the w.h.o. is saying is that we need to be cautious. we don't yet know what these antibody tests mean for immu immunity. if someone has antibodies, doesn't mean they are immune. this they are, for how long, we don't know yet. they are urging caution. they are also raising a secondary issue, which is that these tests need to be validate ed. we need to understand their sensitivity. we need to understand the prevalence of false negatives. all of that is going to be critically important if we're going to rely on them to get people back to work. the u.s. is not the only country hoping these antibody tests can help restart its economy.

in germany, trialing is underway for 3,000 households are being looked at. it's partly to understand what is the lens prevalence of covid-19. how many people have is antibodies and have had no symptoms. because a lot of experts are steling us we still don't have a full picture of infections. you mentioned a grim milestone here in europe. 100,000 confirmed deaths from covid-19. italy and spain have been the hardest hit countries. each of them have more than 20,000 confirmed deaths from covid-19. it comes at a time where europe is beginning to look at lifting some of the extreme lockdown measures. spain has one of the strictest lockdowns. people have not been able to leave their houses for six weeks. not even to exercise.

parks are closed. people are desperate in many parts of europe not only to restart their economy, but also for the mental health boost of just getting outside the house and getting some fresh air. but there's growing awareness that when we talk about a return to normal, it's probably going to have to wait until there's a vaccine. >> that makes sense. that goes along with what doctors are saying. thank you. last night's wide ranging task force briefing, the president took aim at familiar targets including president obama. >> we started off with a broken system. we inherited a broken system. i always say our cup boards were bare. we had little in our stockpile. now we're loaded up. we also loaded up these hospitals. >> joining me now is elena beverly. good sunday to you.

so the president talking about inherited, broken system. we want to point out that was three and a half years ago and he's the one who loaded up the hospitals. first of all, what is a broke b system that he inherited and did he load up the hospitals prior to covid-19? >> he inherited an office of global pandemics that he immediately eliminated and disbanded. so when you talk about what our response could have been, he elimina eliminated the first office for responding to this type of crisis as soon as he entered into the white house. he also drastically reduced the funding for the cdc and other agencies responsible for the research in response to this type of crisis that we're facing right now. but the larger point here is that this is typical of donald trump in trying to deflect from

the real issues of his very slow response in preparing us for what we are facing today and warming up to china instead of try ing ing to stop the pandemim reaching our shores and also from proliferating. we're also seeing his inconsistency as we see him rolling out different approaches to both mitigation and reopening our economy. he's been completely inconsistent. >> let's also add to the list of grievances he's cut up the funding for the world health organization. you're in michigan there. it's one of the states where the protests against the restrictions are taking place. lots of protesters are supporters of the president. what are you seeing there and how much do you think the president's rhetoric is turning this pandemic into a political issue? >> right, so we're seeing four main stories play out here. first, the governmeor who is dog

her best to ensure that she's not placing lives at risk by reopening the economy, we're seeing these raise in right wing protesters who are putting both themselves, their families, at risk. and also act iing in blatant ca lisness and disregard for the 2300 lives lost in the staut of michigan. and thursdayly, i would say most importantly, we have the effect of the coronavirus and disease taking the lives of african-americans, predominantly in the city of detroit. we are african-americans are 14% of the population in the state of michigan. but we are over 40% of the fatality asks morbidity related to the virus and disease. and we are 33% of the infections. so while we have right wing coordinated campaign to try to

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tech giants google and apple are creating new technology to help researchers stop the spread of coronavirus. high-tech contact tracing uses data to track who may have been exposed to the virus, but some say it may be more effective in

theory than reality. joining me is megan multany. in the first article, your colleagues say the plan will not stop covid-19 alone. but what are some of the hurdles getting this tech up and running and the privacy concerns in this data gathering? >> yeah, so one of the issues is that we have a large adoption throughout the population to have contact tracing apps be effective. and with these contacts we're not sure people are going to want to adopt them. they also require the ability to test vast numbers of people quickly. they were able to put out mass tracing systems very quickly. in the u.s. where there's no national testing strategy.

we have been lower to ramp up. so we're testing 150,000 people a day and that's far from what we need for these. >> it's a ways until this becomes implemented into reality. i'm really curious about an article that you wrote this week. it's called what does covid-19 do to your brain. it's about neurological ailments. what have you heard from researchers about this? >> so a small study of 200 patients from china found that a third of them suffered neurological symptoms. loss of smell, sudden confusion or disorr yen nation as well as stroke. a study limited in size and only the patients hospitalized. but what it suggested is these kinds of neurological symptoms are more common than believed. it's out of china. just in the last month, doctors

at mount sinai have seen a large increase number of strokes. and many of those patients had covid-19 and many of them were much younger than normal stroke patients. so we have seen in their 30s and 40s becoming healthy. what this underlines is there's other symptoms besides the respiratory distress that should trigger them to seek immediate attention. for doctors, they need to expand the list of symptoms that qualify a person for covid-19 testing beyond just fever, cough and respiratory distress. >> adding a lot more to doctors' plates. thank you so much. appreciate the conversation. the strain on america's food banks. the effort to keep up with the growing kwlgs for help. but with earth day around the corner, there's another way to ease the stress of social distancing. listen to it.

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coming up later on "a.m. joy." sherrod brown will talk about his plan for a pay increase for essential workers. many americans are reaching out for help with some turning to other means to support their family. the demand for supplies is overwhelming. morgan chesky caught up with the food bank in texas. >> we have no idea when, you know, the supply will run out. we're 60% above our normal distribution amount. that's four weeks. just four weeks. >> joining me now -- the demand

up 60%. the national grocerers said the supply chain is working to catching up with demand in supermarkets. what do they need to do to meet the demands? >> right. we're talking about food banks. we're talking about a char rateable system that has been hard hit. in four weeks, 22 million americans lost their jobs. even though there are -- there is unemployment, through the $2 trillion fiscal stimulus, there's tons of delays. it's hard to file it over the phone or online. some websites, for example, in new york crashed several times. because that have, people need food as soon as possible possible. they don't have the money to buy groceries. that's why we're seeing long lines at food banks throughout the nation. >> uh-huh. >> feeding america has the biggest network of food banks and they projected a $1.4 billion shortfall in six

months. >> wow. you wrote the restaurant owners said that a fourth relief package that could bring in $250 billion more for small businesses won't be enough. and you have speaker pea see -- pea low slosi saying it e closed. >> restaurants are concerned when the u.s. economy reopens, people will be reluck assistata to restaurants and be seated in a crowd. because of that, they want more insurance protection. they also want more funds to be released to support their businesses. not all restaurants were able to get money through this first wave of the paycheck protection program. they're hoping that steve mnuchin is trying to push an additional $250 for small businesses. they're hoping they'll be able to get more funds. they're asking for more tax rebates. it's very dire situation for restaurants throughout the country. many owners are very scarired ad

they're hoping congress will do even more. >> yeah. when they reopen to combat the concern about being too close, they may operate at 50% capacity anyway. the trump administration announced it's going make a mass purchase of $3 billion of dairy, produce, and meat. how much will that help the farmers? >> yeah. it's something for farmers. it's definitely something they need. when it comes to farmers, president trump supported them. there was the trade war with china, the tariffs, the retaliatory tariffs that china imposed on u.s. farmers. the u.s. government has been supporting farmers throughout the time and now they're severely impacted. we need farmers. when you go to the grocery stores for vegetables or meat or fruit. >> yeah. >> they're in a crisis situation and so are we.

>> okay. it's good to see you. thank you so much. that's going to do it for me everyone. i'm alex whit. i'll see you at noon eastern. up next on velshi an alarming rate of coronavirus infections and mark cuban how the virus is impacting businesses. tom steyer will break down a new news poll. it's all ahead. ♪ limu emu & doug

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ready to open soon but many governs are worried that the lack of testing means coronavirus could strike again. 44% of american households living just above the poverty line don't have broadband internet. how the digital divide makes the pandemic worse for them. and down 30% in just under two months. why delivering less mail is threatening the postal service. "velshi" starts now. good morning. it is sunday, april 19th. this week we begin the process of reopening parts of our country. even as covid-19 continues to spread across the nation. here are the facts. there are now more than 728,000 confirmed cases of coronavirus in the united states. more than 38,000 people have died. yesterday at the