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hey, there. i'm joshua johnson. it's good to be with you on this sunday for a pact epacked hour. we'll answer your questions about coronavirus including on the latest plans to get back to business. we will head across america to explore the many costs of covid-19. nearly 40,000 americans are paid the ultimate cost. the nation is also nearly 750,000 confirmed cases. the pandemic's cost is felt in many states on a painful person level at food banks, unemployment hot line, at businesses that are closed or have closed down. despite that, a new nbc wall street journal poll shows that most people are still putting health and safety over the economy, at least for now. that tension is the main topic at president's white house briefings pushing for the nation
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to get back to business and railing against those who have in his view made that harder. lately he haze taken on the world health organization including the u.s. will to paying into the w.h.o. that's where we begin this hour. the president claims that the w.h.o. kept his add mvrministra in the dark as the pandemic began. that appears to not only be untrue but impossible. officials say nmore than a doze officials with the cdc were working at the world health organization when the virus emerged in china last year. those researchers reportedly transmitted all their information to the white house as they got it. nbc's monica al bba is at the white house. any reaction? >> reporter: nothing yet wp we have reached out to the white house and the cdc on this information.
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just last night at the briefing the president was quick to blame china for not being fortsenough. that's something we have seen repeatedly from him many the last week. when he put a pause to that funding and said they were going to look into whether they would continue those payments to the w.h.o. we have seen the president very skeptical of what china has been forts coming about. he interrupted dr. birx to interject and say does anybody really believe numbers china is putting forward. in this is true, if many officials were communicating such information about the pandemic late last year that would undercut one of the president's arguments this came and fell into his lap more in january and february of this year. an important point, dr. birx was pressed oen that this morning during one of her appearances on
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the sunday shows. he said this is a question of n nuance. take a listen. >> more than a dozen u.s. official vs been embedded at the w.h.o. since this crisis began, since december 31st. there were constant briefings with senior officials. they were getting the same information in realtime from the w.h.o. is it fair to blame the w.h.o. for covering up the spread of this virus? >> you know, i think, early on when you go back to the -- again, i watch epidemics around the world and the level of transparency and communication that you need, you have to overcommunica overcommunicate. you have to communicate even the small nuances. >> reporter: it's not clear exactly whether that message wou would have reached the president. some of officials may have been on the loop. we reached out to hhs to see who may have been in briefings and passed that information along.
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there were reported attempts to warn the president in january of how serious this pandemic could be and for the economy and the president didn't act in a serious way in terms of social distancing guidelines until much later. he did put that effective travel ban on some foreign nationals coming from china in late january. this raises the questions of the timeline. i'm sure the president will be asked that at the briefing he has scheduled later today in a couple of hours. >> she kind of dodged that question just because one over communicates to the president doesn't mean he will agree with that overcommunication. i'm sure she will get that question again at the briefing. the president has been tweeting ahead of that briefing, not surprisingly. >> reporter: he's sort of going after governors. you had a bipartisan group of them on the sunday shows this morning saying they really don't feel they have enough federal support when it comes to the issue of testing. the president was tweeting
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earlier this afternoon that he has now dubbed himself and the country the king of ventilators. he said he will also be in his word, proven right on testing and governors are the once that have to step up and get the job done. he says he will be with them all the way. as we saw this morning, republican governor of maryland, larry hogan said it's just not accurate or straightforward to say that the federal government is where it needs to be on testing in terms of supporting the states. while states are happy to take the charge and the spojts on doing this, they need guidance or things like reagents and certain supplies in order to do the testing kits. from both democrats and republicans we heard this morning there are questions to be answered, specifically, when it comes to testing. that really becomes the big issue at the center of this coming week. joshua. >> briefings at 5:00 eastern, 2:00 pacific. keeping food on the table is
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getting harder for many people. it's at getting harder for the people that provide the food. it's a big threat to america's cattle ranchers. it raises the possibility loawe demand in the future. it will cost the cattle industry $13.6 billion. cow and calf producers could take the biggest hit at $4 billion. texas has more than 18,000 confirmed cases coronavirus and at least 453 death, closing to 500,000. what are ranchers telling you? >> reporter: most of them are
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small with 35 cows on them. it can be very challenging as the processing plants are closing. it can present challenges. we're seeing some folks are able to keep the cattle on the ranches a little longer than they would. in this part of texas we get plenty of rain. there's plenty of grass for the cattle to eat. others are getting creative about how they are processing that meat. take a listen to one of the owners. >> some people are doing kind of more farm to table type of situations. they are processing their own cattle and selling them direct, in farmers market type of concept. they are working directly with restaurants to process that beef as well. there's lots of different scenarios. that's the beauty is people are really becoming creative and saying we have done it this way forever, we need to think outside of the box vanand have paradigm shift.
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>> reporter: i'm told consumers don't have to worry about finding meat on the grocery store shelves because a lot of the meat is being rerouted to stores instead of hotels and restaurants. it could have an impact on the industry here in texas. >> thank you priscilla. a state with 521 covid-19 deaths. let's check in on new jersey. that's the state with the second highest case load. new york is first. new jersey has more than 85,000 confirmed cases and more than 4,000 deaths. new jersey health officials are predicting later peak in hospitalizations than they had expected. the jersey shore remains unseasonably quiet for this time of year. casinos and walkways remain closed. restrictions on non-specihfnon- businesses could last until june or july. some business owners along the
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jersey shore say last summer was one of their best in decades. what would a summer shut down this summer mean for them now. >> reporter: exactly. businesses like these along the new jersey coast bring in about $44 billion in economic impact and support more than 500,000 jo jobs, season untilly. that's important for new jersey as a statewide economy but especially here. they have been coming out of an economic hardship period and these business owners that i've talked to, one of thoem oem owns pir piir. he said last season was the best season he saw in more than 30 years bp rig
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years. the mayor is adamant they cannot reopen the city until the virus is under control. take a listen. >> typically that would be our strong season. we would be thriveri ithriving economy. all money is not good money. it will be senseless to open up the economy and let people come here from all over to the city of atlantic city in our casinos and businesses and this virus isn't under control. >> reporter: the new jersey governor is working in tandem with other north eastern state governors and they are looking for a data driven approach. obvio obviously, the mayor and other local officials telling us they are not ready just yet. >> thank you. one of first tragedies from coronavirus was at a nursing home near seattle. those kinds of facile tills remain at high risk nation wide. in mobile, alabama.
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one nursing home reported ten covid-19 related deaths since early march. those include an employee. more than 90 pash 0 patients an have tested positive there. california has more than 1200 nursing facilities. nearly 260 of them have had one infection among residents or staff. that's according to the california department of public health. it released its first detailed list, naming those facilities on friday. more than half are in los angeles county. that's with we find nbc stooeev patterson. what's the reaction been to this list? >> reporter: i think there's a certain level of expectation. you're talking about the most vulnerable population of people, 65 plus living in close quarters. most all of them have preexisting conditions. working with staff members that have limited access to protective gear, are working with very limited resources and a lot of cases getting sick
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themselves. not as available to treat those patients and residents. that bears out when you look across the country, look at places like new york, new jersey, kansas, maine, all of them are having problems with nursing homes. we're starting to see numbers from their state and local governments or finally able to track this. that's able to get people in the right places and right health care options for those places that need help. that is a good thing. it's still so shocking to see these numbers in stark relief. we're talking about 3,000 patients in residents and staff members that have been testing positive for covid in the state of california. in l.a. county that's 30% of the deaths related to covid. that number is like 70% when you look at a place like long beach. it's quite terrifying to see the numbers for families and people that have been tracking this. one of the hits that came back, one of the bigs care facilities that had a large number of covid
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cases. 58 patient and 15 staff members positive was at a country villa here in los angeles. i spoke to the ceo who said some of these numbers come from the fact we took positive patients from overwhelmed health systems and hospitals that needed a place to put positive residents. that's why the numbers are so big. i asked him, what the number of cases ravaging his facility, what is the biggest fear? how do you mitigate something like this once it's inside? here is what he said. >> our biggest fear is some of the patients don't have cases. it's people bringing it into the facility. we're testing people as they come in. we try to limit care workers to working only in one facility as much as we can. one of the issue s people may work in more than one facility.
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we try to make sure they limit work to one facility. >> reporter: he spent all night talking to county health officials. they are looking at, as far as a solution is trying to designate and local maybe possibly facile tills that could take positive patients and isolate them. it's heartening to see the governors that are releasing the information. it only helps nursing homes which are so ravaged by this virus across the kun frcountry. >> thank you very much. this is always a somber time in oklahoma. coronavirus is making it even more so. today marks 25 years since a bomb killed 186 people at the alfred p. murra federal
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building. 19 children were also killed. usually survivors and victims family gather where the building once stood. a ceremony was presented online. the oklahoma city national memorial and museum aired a video rembrans with reading of the victim's names followed by 168 seconds of silence. blng with the fastest non-drowsy allergy relief and turning a half hearted yes, into an all in yes. allegra. live your life, not your allergies. ♪ ♪ ♪
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. weekend routines across america are beginning to get back to normal. in some places you can walk across the beach again. crews removed barricades that had blocked beach access for more than a month. parking and the bathrooms are still closed. hand washing stations are also
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in place. the farmers market reduced the number of vendors and shoppers are asked to limit their time shopping. meandering the fooaisles of farmers market may feel like a luxury. many are us are looking at food insecurity. the long lines at food banks from coast to cost is one problem. the other is how to continue feeding millions of meals to millions of people every day. >> the supply is not endless. we have no idea, when the supply will run out. we're four weeks into this and we're 60% above our normal d distribution amount. it's just four weeks. >> let's head back to new jersey now where lindsay riser joins us. what has demand for help been like where you are? >> reporter: food banks and food pantries stretched thin be p
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this church here in newark is feeling it as well. they closed early today because they ran out of food. now, prepandemic they were running this food pantry about two sundays a month and help about 75 families. now, they are running it every single sunday and they are helping about 150 families. today they helped 200. the pastor tells me a lot of members of their congregation have been laid off or furloug d furloughed. they are filling that gap with items families can't find at the grocery store. there's still a level of risk involved for the volunteer who is come out and dole out the food or physically deliver food boxes to families in need. let's hear what they have to say. >> i take precaution. i'm protecting me because i don't want to die either. i'm very susceptible to it. i want to be a blessing. >> i believe that this is a calling for us. i don't know how people believe
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in god, but for us, we do. we believe in the strength he's given us and that if it's going to happen, it's going to happen. we always have the compassion for people. if this is the need and where we're supposed to be placed at, this is where we want to be. >> when you don't know when your next check is going to come, to have a decent meal, i can truly tell you, i'm a fearing person. a got-fearing person. i haven't had a whole meal on my table lately and that's the honest god truth. >> reporter: that woman was furloughed for the last two weeks. she's a custodian here. she says without the food pantry, she doesn't know where her next meal would come from. >> thank you. mississippi is in the eye of the storm according to its republican governor. it's an interesting metaphor. the eye can be a storm's most
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dangerous spot making you think it's over. the governor announced its statewide shelter in place will not expire tomorrow but will last another week. mississippi has nearly 4,000 confirmed cases and 150 death pps s. he relaxed restrictions on some non-essential businesses like florists and clothing stores, including for curb side sales and deliveries. let's explore with jason shelton. welcome to the program. >> thank you for having me. it's an northern to be here. >> how is tupelo doing? >> we're doing okay. i think we're doing as well as possible with the covid-19 pandemic but the economy is shut down. we have people getting sick and dying. tupelo is home to the nation's largest rural hospital. a lot oftra
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transported here to be treated. it's having a significant impact on our mental and physical health and the local economy. >> that's got to give you an especially intense affect from the state's orders. you've been critical of the governor's response to this crisis and to time that he took to implement a shelter in place order. what do you make of the moves he's making now? is he makes the right moves now? >> i think a lot of what the governor has done recently has been spot on. i was very critical of him sp taking a spanish vacation in the middle of pandemic but some of the measures he's taken recently, i think the shelter in place is helpful. my fear is it's a little too late. i doubt we'll be ready to reopen by april 27th.
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it will be more helpful if he would release a plan of this is what we're going to do next. this is how we'll reopen. these are the steps we'll take. even the president set forth a plan. i wish we could get that in the state of mississippi but that's not been forts coming. >> let's brainstorm that. what is the biggest thing standing in the way of getting tupelo, mississippi back to business and how youwould you l to see it dealt with? >> we'll put safety first. we have the largest rule hospital. i'm fortunate i don't have to make calls to jackson or washington or even atlanta for health care professionals. we have them right here in the city of tupelo. i've been following their lead from the beginning. what i think it will take here is some clear data. the numbers are falling that the
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cases are falling. right now they are continuing to rise all across the state. the number of case, number of deaths are increasing. hopefully we are nearing the peak. we will plateau and start on the downward side soon enough. it's something we have to listen to our doctors, we have to listen to the experts. we have to put safety first and we'll work on economy, getting the economy back to order as soon as it's safe to do so. >> i think most people only know tupelo, mississippi as the birth place of elvis presley. i think we need to know it's essential in treating rural areas. mayor shelton thanks for talking to us. >> thank you. it's a pleasure. i don't know about you, but i could use a hug. so could grand kids everywhere. social distancing makes that
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time to get to some of your questions. you have been sharing a lot of stories about your coronavirus concern. its impact on your life and bank
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account. before we get to that, let's get the facts. we are still working and waiting for coronavirus to plateau across america. the u.s. has more than 741,000 confirmed cases. more than 39,000 people have lost their lives. the white house holds another coronavirus task force briefing today. that is scheduled to start at 5:00 eastern, 2:00 pacific. mike pence plans to attend after he traveled to colorado yesterday. he was the commencement speaker at the u.s. air force academy. the curve is flatstening thanks to most americans. protesters are taking to the streets demanding an end to the sdhount orders. many say they cannot afford to go without work. surfers and community members gather in san diego. another demonstration is expected today in washington. some protesters were clearly fired up by tweets from president trump. he has called for in his word, liberating states with
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restrictions in place. he specifically called out minnesota, michigan and virginia. all of which have democratic governors. there's some good news in new york. today governor andrew cuomo announced new york has passed the high point of coronavirus infections. that is because the state recorded its lowest daily death toll in more than two weeks. let's get to your questions starting with your medical and policy concerns. please remember as always our knowledge is e vovli evolving s you hear today may not match what you heard before. nothing we say can substitute for the guidance of your doctor or fj ainancial adviser. i want you know i have no questions about animals. no questions about animals.
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i departments waidn't want to s lacked the expertise. christian wants know every one agrees that mass test sg needed to try to control the spread of the coronavirus. it is clear that is not happening still. what are the specific solutions to get the mass testing we need and what goes into the testing we already have. before you answer that, i think if the white house task force was here, they would disagree with the premise of christian's question. i think they would argue we don't need mass testing right now. we need sufficient testing to get a representative sample of the country the know where the curve is flattening or not. is that it? >> i agree they would have a different perspective than i might. this is all depen dent on how fast we want to get back to work. my feeling is if we want to get back to work and start opening
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businesses, restaurants, that we will need a lot more testing. not the testing that took 3 to 7 days but we need the quick tests that abbott labs have developed. we need protocols knowing if people have the disease. i think that will be a necessity for getting safely back to work. is there one thing you can point to getting in the way of us getting more testing? is it the administration's handling or something else? >> this is a very bizarre situation. many mistakes made from the beginning regarding the quality of test, the failures of testing, the multiple sources for tests. some of which were okay, some
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not so good. then we had this crazy situation of states competing against one oots. feds saying they have large supplies which we haven't seen yet. it's a very, very complex situation. we may not know the answer to your important question until such time when we start doing the post-mortem of what's happened here. we don't have the testing at the volume and quantity we need. >> let's get to a question from heather. she asked i was diagnosed with coronavirus hku1 in first week of january 2020. was there testing in the u.s. then? is it possible i had covid-19. >> could i be tested for the antibodies. sounds like she's talking about two coronavirus that may or may
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not be similar enough sthoe to p on the same test. >> she's also referring to two types of sets. someone a diagnostic test. they can cause a mild ill onesso something as severe as covid-19. the one she had causes a mild cold. they are all related they are also genetically distingts. it's unclilikely if she was giva swab that she could have been misdiagnosed as covid. we had our first travel related case on january 21st. that's the first case i'm aware of of a positive test in the states.
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the general population, somebody sdieged with an alternative respiratory illness would not get the test. >> you've talked about some of the challenges you dealt with in your practice in getting some of your own patients tested. if the government says may 1st is the time go back to work, what assurances do we have it will be safe? will there be a test available at the workplace? what makes it different to go back on may 1st versus tomorrow? >> may 1st buys a little more time. i'm very pessimistic that we'll be that much further along by may 1. there are so many moving pieces and there's not one solution. you might remember we were all
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very critical early on of the roll out of the diagnostic testing in the u.s. stating the administration was too slow and we were rigid. now we want to speed that up. doing so we might be sacrificing the kwaulquality of the test. we know the earlier tests that have been fast tracked are not as reliable as some of the other lab based diagnostic tests. ideally before we are-enter the work force, we'll have this point of care testing which are the easiest and fastest and the lea at least reliable. do i have antibodies? can i go into the workplace in. >> emery asks we were told that face masks were not effective. now some places are requiring people to wear masks when out in the public. however, medical workers are
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clamoring for masks as part of their ppe. are masks effective in preventing the wearer from getting the virus and if the masks are effective then why is social distancing necessary? >> it's one of the very confusing questions that's out there. there's not a lot of great data. the entire new york state is requiring that all people wear masks when outside. those masks are either cloth masks or the more simple surgical masks. those masks have some role in maybe helping prevent you, excreting the virus that may affect others or some degree of protection for you in terms of getting the virus from someone else. we still need to keep pushing on wearings mask outside even without all the evidence as well as social distancing. it's a lot at stake here. it's not really a lot of data that's pushing us one way or the other. i don't blame the governor of
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new york state for implementing that particularly rule. the masks that people in the health care system need to wear, much of the time is n-95 masks which are able to stop much typenyier droplets containing virus from infecting them. there's a lot of different ways looking at this but it's still the data is not all in terms of what to make the final decision. >> i like the way the governor put it with regards to wearing masks. he said my life is in my hands and your life is in my hands. if you don't know you're inif he canned, it's about protecting somebody else. we'll come back to you near the end of the program. sit tight. still to come, we'll try to clear up some confusion around those stimplus checks. we'll answer your economic questions about covid-19, next. ♪ this is my body of proof. proof i can fight moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis. proof i can fight psoriatic arthritis... ...with humira.
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a deal on a fourth coronavirus deal package. i'm pleased trort th ed to repo been engaged in bipartisan legislation and our progress is encouraging. we're working on cares two to prepare for the path ahead to support the lives and livelihoods of the american people, unquote. it's a sentiment she and treasury secretary steve mnuchin echoed this morning. >> i think they're on a good path. i support the cares act. we were very preez pleased to t from a corporate trickle down bill to a workers first bubble up and support the ppp. as they have committed the money that is there, we want to add -- >> i think we're making a lot of progress. i've had multiple conversations all weekend with the leadership of the senate and the house. i spoke with chuck schumer this morning.
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i know he's on after. i think we're making a lot of progress. >> the new deal would add about $300 billion in funding for small businesses and 50 billion for disaster loans. it could include $75 billion for hospitals and 25 billion for federal testing program. those have been primary demands from democrats. how does this impact you? let's bring in our next panel to answer your financial questions. good to have you both. josh, lets me start with you and the question from kate. kate asks there's a rumor going around in the legislation for the $120 per person checks, it says the money will be taken out again from our future tax liability. is that true? i've been hearing a bunch of versions. the money you get will come out again. you have to pay it back. it's going to be held against you later. i don't think any of these are
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true, right? >> they're not true. it's understandable people are confused about this because it's really complicated and it's a advance refund from next year's taxes. this is free money from the government. it's not a loan. you're not going to have to pay it back. you will see it show up next year when you file your taxes because you will have gotten the refund in advance, it's an extra amount of money being added on top. it all comes out in the wash. if your circumstances change between now and next year and you wouldn't have been eligible by the time you file your 2020 taxes. don't worry, you won't be punished for that. you won't have to pay it back. >> this does not count as taxable income, right? >> that's exactly right. this is a refundable tax credit. it does not come off your taxes. >> let me stick with you and get to a question from michael.
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michael asks i'm a retired counselor. i've lost about $500 a month in client fees from a small part-time practice. is there any compensation for people like myself? >> there's supposed to be in the cares act it provides that part-time workers who have lost income can file for unemployment benefits just like furloughed workers can. the states, though, which deal with these things on state by state basis are having trouble catching up. they were not prepared to have to make these changes in their unemployment application systems. it will happen, it may take a while. just keep checking back. >> josh, lets me come back to you. let me go to our last question on the list from michael. there are a lot of people who seem to be falling through some of the cracks in terms of who is being helped now and whose not. he says i'm on ssi, supplemental security income. what is the hold up with some
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people, such as myself, getting this relief fund or stimulus check? how long should i expect for this to happen? some have said there are glitches. they wondering why some folks have to wait longer than others. >> the treasury department never said every one with going to get their money at the same time. in fact, communications to congress, the irs said it could take them up to 20 weeks to get all of this money out the door to people who might not have a bank account and have to get a paper check. we got 80 million of them that were sent out last week. those were the first ones went to people who filed tax returns and had already had their refund to a bank -- bank account they had on file with the irs. now the irs is moving to people on social security, on ssi and other programs. they should start to see the money put in their accounts within the next couple of weeks.
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we got about a minute or so for sop rapid fire questions. do we need to take special precautions for brushing, flossing or teeth or washing our faces? >> none that i can see.
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i think this goes back to hand washes. that's how you introduce the virus to yourself. wash your hands soupuper well. >> should ashai shave my mustac and beard even if i'm wearing my mask many public? please, say no. >> no. only medical workers need to do that because they need their mask to fit very perfectly. >> you have no idea how long it took this to grow. >> i understand. >> the grow gargle and do a netty spot, does that keep you from getting coronavirus? >> there's no indication. some experts said it could be more dangerous from the folks around you. >> last question. my cousin is a funeral director. he's expressed this to me too. can covid-19 be passed onto people working in the funeral home industry such as medical examiners? >> maybe it can be.
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we don't know that entirely. i would take precautions. i would advise your cousin to wear ppe and gowns, masks, et cetera. >> thank you both for spending this time with us. coming up, you'll hear from abc series the good doctor. he is leading a new campaign to get ppe to farm workers. until we meet again, i'm joshua johnson. the news continues on msnbc. how about no no uh uh, no way come on, no no n-n-n-no-no only discover has no annual fee on any card. so chantix can help you quit slow turkey. along with support, chantix is proven to help you quit. with chantix you can keep smoking at first and ease into quitting so when the day arrives, you'll be more ready to kiss cigarettes goodbye. when you try to quit smoking, with or without chantix,
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we're following new development at this hour on two different fronts. fresh reporting from the washington post contradicts the president's claim he was blind sided by the vie rrus with more than a dozen officials saying there were americans at the world health organization telling the administration about the virus in realtime and as early as last december. the news contradicts what some in the task force have been saying about the w.h.o. >> more than a dozen u.s. officials have been embedded by the w.h.o. since the crisis began. there were constant briefings with senior officials. they were getting the same information in realtime from the w.h.o. is it fair to blame the w.h.o. for covering up the spread of