hi, everyone. it's 4:00 in the east. the governors versus the president and the protesters, remarkable state of affairs for our country ravaged by the coronavirus pandemic. more than 761,000 cases on record. more than 41,000 deaths and this headline today many in "the new york times." trump head of government, leans into antigovernment message. a feud between the white house and governors over testing. quote, not even the president's re-election campaign can harness him. his team is also reactive to his moods and whims trying but not always succeeding in steering him in a particular direction. now, with mr. trump's poll numbers falling after a rally around the leader bump, he's

road-testing a new turn on a familiar theme -- veering into messages aimed at appealing to americans whose lives have been disrupted by the legally enforceable stay at home orders. those orders implemented by the governors. the decisionmakers in reopening the economy. governors left to fend for themselves on testing which is key to any conversation about reopen zmrg we've been fighting for testing. it's not -- it's no to a straightforward test. we don't even have enough swabs, believe it or not. >> we have the capacity to double or triple the number of tests we can do but we need some of the supplies. >> we have a worldwide shortage of some of the materials that go into this. we really need help. >> to try to push this off to say that the governors have plenty of testing and they should get to work on testing, somehow we're not doing our job is absolutely false. >> trump responded to that

bipartisan outcry over testing at his briefing last night. >> you must remember that the governors wanted to have total control over the opening of their states. but now they want to have us, the federal government, do the testing and again, testing is local. you can't have it both ways. testing is a local thing and it's very important. it's great. but it's a local thing. >> for donald trump, to say you can't have it both ways proves that irony is dead. the president admonishing governors on their responsibility. bemoaning the request that he do his job as president and provide the materials and funding that the states need. couldn't be helpful to those governors that trump also spent the weekend offering support for the growing crowds of protesters across the country who endanger one another and their entire states.

trump also lashed out on twitter to house speaker nancy pelosi, senate democrats, joe biden. poll numbers probably put him in a bad news. this poll finds 52% of americans disapprove of his response to the crisis, a whopping 65% said he didn't take the threat seriously enough at the beginning of the crisis. and 66% of americans trust their governors, while only 36% all americans trust trump. the president's political collapse between the white house and the governors is we start today with some of our favorite reporters and friends. ashley parker is back. former top state steve stengel here. we'll start with nbc political reporter vaughn hilyard. vaughn, what does it look like.

>> reporter: nicolle, i was talking to the gentleman from mesa, a population of about 5 million, nicolle, the folks here, several hundred of them gathered here on the arizona state capital ground before marching over the capitol. john was among those and he said his line here that we heard the refrain, he believes that the virus or the cure is worse than the virus itself. when you looking at numbers out of arizona, they don't compare to the numbers out of new york and new jersey, three weeks ago, nicolle, the republican governor of arizona ordered a stay at home shelt policy. much like governor dewine of ohio. you have seen these protests across the country -- in michigan, in ohio, our colleague was in pennsylvania, in harrisburg, today. here in phoenix, hundreds of folks who have gathered up,

calling for the reopening of the arizona economy. now i was talking with one mother who came here with four children, she's still going into grocery stores with no masks. she believes it's overhyped, overblown. john said the media has blown the coronavirus out of proportion. >> the governor in attempt not to create a hotspot like in new york city, yet folks here say it's time to open the economy and conversations with a lot of folks i i haven't had a chance to talk with this particular gentleman. lot of suggestions that, you know, like a bill gates may be behind covid-19. lot of folks suggested to us that, you know, president trump has been cornered by ri in, os and the likes of dr. fauci and dr. birx, essentially leading him to shut down the economy. we have seen the toll it's taken

here in the likes of phoenix, arizona and across the country, nicolle. >> thank you for being there and for sharing your reporting there. i want to bring into the conversation our friends and reporters, ashley parker, you've been covering every step, every minute of the president's response. and there's a real sense from your reporting and your colleagues at the post and the "the new york times'" portrait that's coming through that this has now become a monogamous between president trump and the reflection that he sees in newspapers like yours, there's nothing else to this. can you talk about that in. >> you saw the president yesterday in the briefing, he was asked pretty poignantly by cnn's jeremy diamond, on a day when the death toll in the united states has exceeded

40,000 people, why is it appropriate to play tv clips of goff more cuomo, to praise yourself personally, to sort of come up here and talk about you and the president said, this isn't about me at all. of course, anyone who's watched these briefings knows that's just factually not true. you get to these briefings and it's also feels there's two briefings. there's the president trump portion and there was vice president pence and the medical experts come up and they offer some guidance related to public health. but the president uses his time the way he used campaign rallies previously to air grievances, to sing his own praises, to clash with the media, and it's often like the live giving, you know, of a virtual enemies' list, that's what's coming through, the president is hearing from

allies that's not the best thing for him and from other republicans. but there's understanding that it's very hard to steer the president away from what he wants to do. as long as the nation is focused on coronavirus and that's the nation's top priority, which let's be honest is going to be for a number of weeks, the president wants to personally out there giving those briefings. >> i guess, ashley parker, my question would be, the evidence and the data and i know that doesn't always get through to trump in a simple or a linear way, he doesn't like to read that's from people who observe him, but his numbers have plunged. he's only got 36% of the public, even some members of his own base don't find him as trustworthy, as dr. fauci, the cdc and even governor cuomo. >> that's part of the reason

you're seeing as we have seen in recent briefings this -- this obsession with being treated unfairly. with the media. with his presooefd erved enemie. sheer repetition or accurate or not. rewrite history. he would say, we were on top of this early. we know that's not the case. there were number of missed signals. the difference here is, this has been explained by some people in his orbit, there's a reality, there are people dead, tens of thousands of people, there are millions of people out of work, you can't tweet that away and there's sense now in the white house that the president does better when he's focused on the economy and they think that's a stronger point for him. the economy isn't doing very

well right now. they're trying to shift him to that forum which they think might be more effective than having him try to play the role of public health expert, who instead ends up clashing with reporter of complaining about governors. >> this in the wall street journal poll, it was so interesting to me that the cdc and anthony fauci were up close to 70% trustworthiness. the vice president who's playing the role of the statesman on this committee is even more untrustworthy than donald trump. i wonder if there's some silver lining that the public at large still trusts science. >> that's what i'm hearing, nicolle, i'm hearing that dr. fauci and dr. birx talk in tones that recognize uncertainty. there's a humility to how they talk, that we don't know if

antibody is or is not effective. we actually don't know the true infection fatality rate of covid-19. how many cases really exist out in the world. dr. birx talked about social distancing still being important. even though we're moving towards of a patchwork approach. uncertainty is okay. i convey it all the time to my patients. i think people understand that and that's how you build trust. talking in absolutes and acting like we have all of the information i think is a mistake and you're seeing that with the poll numbers. >> doctor, i misspoke earlier, dr. gupta, what makes you most concerned when you see these protests, some of them aren't practicing social distancing themselves or is it just this undercurrent of unrest with listening to science and listening to the authorities who would like for people to stay at home for a little longer to let

more healing take place. >> a few things, first of all, the masks and the science behind the masks it's increasing. there's compelling data in the new england journal of medicine published last week, normal speak conveys droplets so we need to be wearing masks. it's important to understand that this is not just made-up science, there is real science behind the guidelines. i'd love to see the president strongly endorse that and practice what he's suggesting americans do but n-- i would sa people want knowledge. back to my prior point, it's okay to acknowledge uncertainty, one thing we can't do here is say we tested less than a percent of the u.s. population, let's proceed with a patchwork

approach to liberalizing. we only know 1% of what's going on. by testing 1% of the population, how can we liberalizing on a patchwork basis? i think americans are picking up on that urn certainty and the fact that there's a lot of mixed messages and it's causing unrest and that's because we don't know what to make sense of with the mixed messages. >> you know, rick, i have this weird sort of vision of a protest where they have swab tests at the beginning. to the doctor's point, people are hungry for information. but, you know, people are not stupid. i think there's in every single person this collision between an angst about the state of the economy and a desire on to get back out there and get their

kids to schoolened a real fear about the infection and about playing any role in spreading it and i wonder if you can speak to those competing human emotions as well as what we're seeing, the president of the united states instigating and spotting protests against really his own government's advice for people to stay at home. >> rick, we can't hear you. we're going to work on getting you back. ashley parker, same question to you. i'll let you take governor hogan's word for it. here's governor hogan speaking to the demands being placed on the governors. >> the president's policy said you can't start to reopen until you have declining numbers for 14 days. those states and my state don't have. to encourage people to go protest the plan that you just made recommendations on on

thursday, it just doesn't make any sense. >> ashley parker, he makes a pretty fair point there. >> not just this, these governors are in an incredibly tricky position, because they want what we all want, nobody thinks it's fun to be trapped in our homes. nobody with kids, working from home or even worse not working, being worried about making a mortgage payment, the economy is on these governors' minds. it's something that they're thinking about. governor hogan also talked about seeing the lines in maryland at the food banks. he's balancing those same concerns. the president is about economic health. all these governors they stress the need for these basic supplies so they can do both things responsibly, begin to open up while making sure people are being safe and i did a story on this over this weekend which

another reason why testing and you're not just hearing this from the public officials, you're hearing this from top executives, goldman sachs on the earnings call, is that psychology also plays a huge role. it's not just a switch. people made the 9/11 parallel. you don't just turn a light, the economy is open you can go. there's a lot of people who say, okay, the president said the country's reopen. i don't trust the president, he has a credibility gap, someone said. i'm waiting for what my local government says. going out into a crowded restaurant, or cheering for your favorite sports team. the country is not going to reopen and the supplies the governors need are about the psychology but the actual testing and the public health side. >> rick, ashley brings us to a better point.

talk about the psychology on the twin crises on documented, a data-proven credibility crisis for this president and this white house. >> well, he has a credibility gap because he's -- you know, he lies every word he says, including and and the. at a time when you need to be transparent, people don't trust him. i looked at fdr's inaugural address at a very critical time in the nation's history, he talked about optimism, he said you need to be honest with people. optimism only comes from squaring the deal with people, from being straight with them and trump never has been. i do want to make a point about the governors, i do think this is a kind of learning moment for the public about what the federal government does and what the state government does. one of the things that i found so appalling at trump's news

conference yesterday he said testing is a state thing. really? state is a test thing. that's like, president eisenhower saying that interstate commerce and interstate highway system is a state system not a federal thing. these states needs swabs. there's no minnesota swab or michigan swab. hey, e really like those hawaii swabs. making swabs and tests in a pandemic is a federal responsibility. that's a failure of the federal government to do that and when the states don't have swabs, reagents that's a problem of the federal government. yes, the cdc made those tests in the beginning that didn't work. the federal government needed to create a manhattan project for testing across the country. the test is the most important thing. without testing we're flying blind, we're driving without headlights on. that's a real problem and it's a federal problem. >> dr. gupta, i have to give you

the last word on testing, is there a light at the end of the tunnel for what a situation as rick stengel leavsays, leaves u nighing blind. >> i hope it's saliva. clinician supervised. there's precedent for home testing of covid-19. with a nasal swab. if we can do that for saliva, maybe that's the breakthrough we have been hoping for. we need to circumvent around these bottlenecks. we need creative outside of the box thinking now. saliva is one way. >> you all make me smarter and totally different ways every day. ashley parker, rick stengel and dr. vin gupta. when we come back,

campaigning on coronavirus. joe biden is out with a new ad calling out donald trump. saying the president, quote, rolled over for the chinese. we'll look at why trump can't really fight back on that one. plus, the trump strategy of needing a scapegoat, this one the world health organization has officially hit another snag, thanks to brand-new reporting from the washington post, we'll tell you about it. and another trump target -- house speaker nancy pelosi got under his skin again this weekend. all those stories coming up. a. and sometimes, you can find yourself heading in a new direction. but when you're with fidelity, a partner who makes sure every step is clear, there's nothing to stop you from moving forward.

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look like the trump campaign is feeling the heat the political heat that is, a nbc news/wall street journal poll shows joe biden leading donald trump nationally by seven points. and the declining numbers for the president's handling of the

virus we talked about earlier taking a toll and it might be why team trump is scrambling to attack the vice president rather than campaign on his own record or try to address the coronavirus pandemic itself. the washington post reports, quote, president trump's campaign is preparing to launch a broad effort aimed at linking joe biden to china. after concluding that it would be more politically effective than defending or promoting trump's response to the coronavirus pandemic. another remarkable sentence in 2020. the shift represents a remarkable acknowledgment by aides to a self-described wartime president leading during what might have been a rally around the flag moment, to effectively did it is better to go on the attack than focus on his own achievements. joe biden's battle ground ad that will air. >> he failed to act. now trump and his allies are launching negative attacks against joe biden to hide the

truth. here are the facts -- joe biden warned the nation in january that trump had left us unprepared for a pandemic. then biden told trump he should insist on having american health experts on the ground in china. >> i'd be on the phone with china making it clear, we're going to need to be in your country, you have to be open, you have to be clear, we have to know what's going on. >> but trump rolled over for the china. >> the president tweeted china has been working very hard to contain the coronavirus. the united states greatly appreciates their zmrefrt china, i spoke with president xi and they're working very, very hard and i think it's going to work out fine. >> trump praised the chinese 15 times in january and february as the coronavirus spread across the world. >> it's a tough situation. i think they're doing a really good job. >> are you concerned about what the potential impact on the global economy?

>> i think they're doing a really good job. >> trump let in 40,000 travelers from china into america after he signed it, not exactly air tight. look around, 22 million americans are out of work and we have more officially reported cases and deaths than any other country. donald trump left this country unprepared and unprotected for the worst public health and economic crisis in our lifetime. and now, we're paying the price. all the negative ads in the world can't change the truth. >> joining our conversation, political strategist steve schmidt and nbc news correspondent heidi pryzbyla. steve schmidt, it's a devastating political ad because it's all true. >> it's entirely true and no amount of negative ads as the biden ads says is going to change the truth about donald trump's imcome petency to what e

ad correctly says it's the worst economic and health crises of our time. the president trump ran for president of the united states on two propositions -- i alone can fix it, and i can make america great again. slightly under 200 days from the election, more than 40,000 americans are dead. it's so because the ineptitude of the white house response, the constant deniadenial, the const downplaying of this, the danger of it pushing it away, his serial unpreparedness and dishonesty with the american people about it and now great suffering has been unleashed in this country. there's more to come. the economic distress will make the unemployment numbers higher than the great depression, we'll wipe out of millions of small businesses in this program.

and four years on from the promise i'll make america great again and i alone can fix it, we can survey the magnitude of this crisis by the trump presidency and we see the consequences of putting a ill-tempered reality tv host who lacks the judgment to be the commander in chief of the most powerful nation on earth. it should go without mentioning as we look around the world and we look at is response of any other industrialized country the united states' response is the worst. the ineptitude of the federal government shows everybody around the world, from ally to adversary, what a clown show american governance has become in the third decade of the 21st century. >> heidi, i know you have a little bit of delay, i'll going to ask you a question and then

play you some tape and pick up right after this. watching trump, you can say a lot of those things about his response to russia's attack on our democracy, his response to being caught redhanded extorting the leader of ukraine, but when you want to know the answer to this question, how bad is it? his closest political allies. here's chris christie on the sunday shows yesterday. >> i think that's the wrong thing right now. i think what we should be continuing to emphasize the president's role in trying to bring this pandemic under control, to assist the american people with the help that they need, to be able to deal with it on both a professional and personal level. if it were up to me, i'd vote no on the right now in april on having the joe biden/china ads. there may be time later in the campaign to discuss that,

anything he does that looks political will be contrary what the people want. this is about competence and moving the country forward. >> heidi? >> i would say that wise what biden did. chris christie knows politics very well and he knows what this focus is going to do is to boom rang back on the president to focus on what the president was doing politically in january and february when he was not having those meetings and having his whole focus on trying to prevent this outbreak. what was he doing? he was focused on the china trade deal, he was making very favorable comment about the leader of china, he was making very flattering comments about president xi and if you think about it, this china along with the wall were the pillars of what the president promised to do to get tough in his

presidency. here we are in april 2020, he doesn't have anything to show for it. he's feeling desperate to get this deal done and you line up that with his statement. at the same time, the cdc is trying to get in the door on the ground in china, instead of pressure them to allow our public health officials to get on the ground and prevent a disaster he's making very flattering comments about the leader of china and that's why you have seen many a matter of days this has opened the door to president's adversaries, the ads laying out these data points. >> steve schmidt, i think chris christie was doing something else, he has a direct line to the president, to the oval office, i think what he was saying to donald trump, don't go there. you are not whole on the

question of china. there's tape. what people can see is donald trump saying on tape over and over to press crowds, which he's addicted to, i trust china, they're being transparent. he was either taken for a total sucker or he's a big fat liar. i think chris christie is giving this president a big flashing red light. don't go after joe biden. >> it has to be a painful moment for chris christie to sit there and defend the ineptitude because we know firsthand how chris christie knows how to respond to a crisis, you saw him work with president obama during hurricane sandy. the idea that the president isn't political, the entire news conference isn't a news

conference to inform the american people about a public health crisis that's killing americans by the tens of thousands. every day it's misinformation, it's spin, it's -- it's -- it's the construction of an alternate reality to extra kate himself from the response that we have seen american president commit to in a crisis, ever. we see nothing but fingerprinting. chris christie's advice is taking place in an alternate reality, because the person he's directing it is not following it. >> steve schmidt, heidi przybyla, thank you my friends. after the break, new repo

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why do you wait so long? >> you're with you? >> why did not have social distancing until march 16 zblth who are you with. >> cbs news. >> so if you look at what i did in terms of cutting off or banning china from coming in -- >> china nationals. by the way, not americans who are also -- >> just relax. i did ban where i'm closing up the entire country. how many people died. >> that's a fair point. >> how many people died in the united states and yet i closed up the country and i believe there were no deaths, zero deaths at the time i closed up the country, nobody was there, and you should say thank you very much for good judgment. >> donald trump still doesn't have a very good answer to a

very important question, why didn't he do more to warn americans about coronavirus as it spread in february, donald trump has sought to avoid accountability to what's been called a lost month or lost lost two, by deflecting blame and blaming others, one is w.h.o. a brand new blockbuster reporting from washington post. quote, more than a dozen u.s. researchers, physicians and public health experts, many are of this from cdc were working full time at the geneva headquarters of the world health organization as the know value coronavirus emerged late last year and transmitted real-time information about its discovery and spread in china. the presence of so many u.s. officials undercuts trump's assertion that the whole health organization's failure to communicate the extent of the

threat, born of a desire to protect china, is largely responsible for the rapid spread of the virus in the u.s. the administration calls this report by the post misleading and emphasizes those staffers weren't decisionmakers. we're joined by our former assistant director of counterintelligence frank figlizzi. you don't have to know a lot of about epidemiology, this will boil down in the minds of the american public what did he know and when did he know it as well what should he have known? these are people who may not have directly reported to him but dr. fauci reported to secretary azar. cabinet secretary has a direct line to any chief of staff. >> nicolle, the what should he

have known question is most problematic for the president. when you bring up the facts, you understand that we lost our cdc representative in beijing, just a couple of months before the outbreak of the case, you understand that when he starts pointing to china as that scapegoat he so is desperate to find, we understand there were reports to the state department from our embassy in beijing, problems were occurring in the wuhan, lab, when he points the world health organization as the cause all of this, we learn what u.s. citizens, officials stationed at the w.h.o. were sending warning flags to washington, so with what are we seeing now? desperate search for a scapegoat and we're seeing a president as he ramps up toward an election and his poll numbers are down is going to be increase desperate to find that scapegoat, every time he points at it they point

right back. we've got a threat coming at us and he's not heeding the warnings. so where is this going? if you're law enforcement, intelligence, domestic security, here's what i'm hearing, nicolle, from my law enforcement contacts, increasing concerns about these protests that are spreading like a virus across the country, protesting public health measures because we're seeing mailitia groups, funding coming from trump-associated donors, koch brothers, betsy devoes, that foundation, we're seeing anti-science, antipublic health protest movement that's increasing exposure of law enforcement and it puts law enforcements and mayors in a trick bag, take measures against protests that violate public

health and safety or, you know, they're accused of looking anti-liberty, anti-free speech. it's a magic position that could get us to violence very quickly. we're entering the most volatile period of this president's administration. >> from you that's saying something. let me just end with two-part question for you, one, it strikes me any protest over any issue the people who encounter or deal with the protesters for their own safety are law enforcement officials, are you worried about this concentration of people not wearing masks coming face to face with law enforcement and two, you started to talk about, on interseconds you see with these, you know, liberty protesters and other groups that have been agitated that have made headlines during the three years of the trump presidency. >> so, first, the law

enforcement and paramedic and emt issue, look, if you're going out and thinking about protesting, think about this -- if you don't care about infecting yourself, understand that your police, fire and rescue have better things to do than to baby-sit you because you're angry because you can't go out for an ice cream or get your hair done. secondly, where is this all headed the president has linked this stay at home issue to the second amendment. liberate virginia, your second amendment is under siege, that's going to motivate the crazies amongst us to do some very ugly things and law enforcement has to hunker down for that. >> frank, we need to have that back with longer and more important conversation. we know a lot about who trump is talking to, he speaks to them in shortland. you're right, not even veiled messages.

after the break, what nancy pelosi said about donald trump that set him off. that story, next.

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path that's, again, i'll come back to science, evidence, data on how we could go forward. >> the speaker too far householding nothing back in her valuation of the president's pandemic response, yesterday on fox news. her first interview on that network since 2017. the president was unnerved by her appearance there. he tweeted this, nervous nancy is an inherently dumb person. she wasted all of her time on the impeachment hoax. she will be overthrown, either by inside or out, just like her last time as speaker. wallace and fox news are on a bad path. joining us is jake sherman. a pretty substantive and fact-based critique of donald trump's response that's sort of

backed by weeks now of investigative reporting from your news organization, "the new york times" and the washington post that his response has been abysmal failure and all he writes back is something about her being overthrown. what does pelosi even do with that? >> a few things are happening at once. nancy pelosi are becoming much more sharp toward trump. she got more sharp over the easter holiday in a letter she wrote to her colleagues, she said, she was praying for the president and he's been abysmal leader, her words not mine, number two, nancy pelosi and donald trump, nancy pelosi someone he long respected, he said he would make pelosi speaker if republicans -- if democrats abandoned her, he thought that she deserved the

speakership. it's ironic, at this time, as donald trump is lambasting her and chuck schumer they're going to deliver another big package for the his administration is in intense negotiations with pelosi and chuck schumer and not republicans pointedly not republicans as much as democrats. so this is a side show and illustrates something you and i have talked a lot about on air. the president is not involved on legislative negotiations and on the other sidelines as other republicans take the lead. >> is there a pet issue? is there anything he is involved in? is he wanting to make sure his, i don't know, either the states in which he calls home, i guess it would be florida, not new york at this point, i mean, is he involved in anything? >> he is involved in a lot, he's the president, number one. he is setting the tone for this

entire process and we have seen some democratic governors and local -- >> how he is setting the tone? he gets in the briefing room and runs political ads. where is he setting the tone? >> that is the taupone, right? that is the tone he is setting through the briefing gs and nonconventional approach to be sure and unnerved a lot of republicans and democrats alike. he is involved but not in the meat and the substance of legislating. congress has a massive role going forward in getting the country back on its feet after this. >> it's amazing to advocate -- i ask that question because he wants to look back on this period when the general election comes into focus in the fall and there is just no evidence he is involved in getting testing up and running. he has kicked that to the governors. there is no evidence anyone other than mnuchin is involved in a lot of the stimulus. there are no fingerprints of his and maybe that is a good thing.

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