despite signals from the white house, the crisis could be leaving as of today more than 42,000 americans have died and more than 170,000 people world wide. here are the facts at this hour. some southern states are rushing to reopen activities in georgia. the governor in fact saying he will allow bowling allies, gyms and nail salons to open on friday, despite strong objections from the mayors in atlanta and albency, south carolina is reopening beaches today. tennessee's governor said his stay-at-home order will be lifted at the end of the month. president trump said he will sign an executive order suspending immigration during the health crisis, although most of boarders to the u.s. are already closed and this could be a political signal to his base during an election year. nbc news is reporting bipartisan optimism on capitol hill for a deal on billions more for small business owners, hospitals and testing that could pass the senate as early as today, as democrats and republicans in the

house battle over a separate measure to allow remote approximately voting on future aid packages. is. and new york governor andrew cuomo will travel to washington today to meet with president trump at the white house. the governor saying in the last hour it's all about testing but he plans to talk to the president about the federal government helping his state and others with a supply chain they need to test. our team is in place across the country, beginning with nbc's blayne alexander in atlanta. bla a lot of objections from mayors to the governors planning to reopen. >> absolutely, andrea. perhaps none stronger than the mayor of albany, georgia. that is the area as we reported for weeks as the highest numbers of deaths anywhere in the state. the mayor told me this morning he was caught off guard by the governor's announcement, he didn't expect it, didn't realize it was coming and called it, quote, irresponsible. i asked him this morning, i said is your city ready to be reopened? he told me absolutely not. they've had a number of new

deaths, five new deaths. there are dozens of people still on ventilators. he said, frankly, by putting this order in place, it keeps him from doing what he wants to do, which is protect the people of his community. a lot of strong reaction there. we're also hearing from people who are in the industry who are opening up. i'm standing in front of a hair salon, andrea. i talked to the owner and he told me he does plan to open his doors friday but on a limited basis. it's going to be him and another employee and they're going to give out masks to customer as they come in and limit is to only a few people inside the salon. he said he was in a tough position. he said yes, he's a small business. it's been very difficult to be closed these past few weeks. so he certainly wants to get back to work and get his employees back to work as well. on the flip side, he has concerns. he's concerned about doing this and certain childrened about making sure everyone remains safe. in his news conference yesterday, andrea, the governor

said he doesn't want this to be as though they're reopening as though this is business as usual. it shouldn't be taken that way. he said he still wants these businesses to keep a number of measures in place. he talked about social distancing, wearing gloves and masks. of course, businesses, the type of businesses that are opening, massage parlors and hair salons t. will be difficult to maintain distance, andrea. >> blayne alexander with the latest from georgia, thank you. and in florida, nbc's sam brock is in miami where beaches are still closed i think on order of the mare but things are much different at the coast in jacksonville. what's going on in florida? >> andrea, good afterand in. there's a couple topics right now that are top of mind in miami. businesses and beaches. let's start with beaches. right now in miami beach, it's empty. everything is empty. the mayor came out and sent a video to residents last night telling them, look, we are not jacksonville. if we open up beaches here, you're going to see thousands of people flock down to miami

beach. young people in permanent spring break mode, is what he said. look, we can't enforce that. not going to happen. now, he said it will probably be until june we're seeing beaches open in miami beach. contrast that in jacksonville, you've seen the images from this past weekend. is it a nightmare scenario or are people exercising good judgment? i called a friend out there who lives in jacksonville, works in news. he said it's somewhere in the middle. here's what you have to understand working in jacksonville. you can only use the beaching if you're doing some essential activi activity like running, biking, fishing. you can't just sit down and sun beige f you're a parent and tell the child you can take the car but you have to be home by 8:00 or i take the keys from you, that teenager is back by 8:00 or the privilege is revoked. as it concerns businesses down here, andrea, we talked to

salons as well and gyms, that is a difficult thing to conceptualize right now, how are you going to open a gym in a space where people are sweating and sharing equipment? i talked to mark enigma from miami about the challenges they're facing now. >> at the cardio station just wiping stations down, people over here at the strength station wiping things down. if you're a one-on-one trainer, you'll be wiping the equipment down. make sure there's a machine in between or six feet, as we were discussing before, someone is using a bench, maybe they take that berth and there's a rule -- machine between or six feet, right. we want to put them in a position to be successful and feel safe, right. >> governor desantis' economic task force is meeting today and every day for the rest of the week. he's provided state leaders here with a deadline of friday to come up with a plan. and then they will figure out when businesses will reopen. most likely, andrea, some time

next week or the odds. back to you. >> sam brock, hard to imagine the gyms reopening and how they're going to imagine that. let's go up to massachusetts and nbc's anne thompson, who's learning more about how the disease is impacting minority communities surrounding boston. what's the situation there? >> good afternoon, andrea. i am in east boston, and it's an area you have passed through many times on your way to logan airport. but it's also a gateway for immigrants to the city of boston, and i'm outside the east boston neighborhood health center. it is the largest community center in the state. it treats about 7,000 people on an p average week but during the coronavirus crisis, that number has gone up dramatically, although they're treating many people via telemedicine. will et let me explain what's going on behind me. you see the people on the street behind me. they're waiting to see the doctor. on the right-hand side where the man is walking with a clipboard, that is where people wait to

pick up their prescriptions. and that is how they have things organized here. this community, east boston, and its neighboring community of chelsea have some of the highest rates of covid-19 in the state of massachusetts. in fact, chelsea, which is only two square miles big, it has the highest rate. why? because you've got people living on top of each other here. there are a lot of triple-decker houses, three-family houses. in those apartments you have not just one family, you may have two or three families. so self-isolation is impossible. as i've said, this area has been a gateway for immigrants. it used to be the italians and irish and european jews. today it is people from latin america. a few moments ago i spoke to manny lopez, who is the ceo of the health center. >> we are concerned about the

latin population and our spanish-speaking population have really been impacted by this. but we're not surprised. i think these are your essential workers. so today they are required to work in your supermarkets and health care facilities like ours. they're also living in crowded apartments. the cost of housing here in boston is high. >> there's a three-proppinged process that they have that they hope can contain this virus, andrea. testing, contact tracing and most of all, education. andrea? >> anne thompson there in boston, thanks so much to you. and dr. amisha dodgia is senior scholar at the johns hopkins health care center and joins me now. doctor, thank you very much for being with us. how do you feel about the southern governors opening we are hearing in bowling allies,

hair salons and gyms/how do? how does that afefect the natio? >> we want to make sure there are actions these governors are taking on data. we want to make sure in a gradual way the number of new cases we get isn't enough to overwhelm hospital systems. but these are going to be local decisions. we know that the country has very heterogenous outbreaks. different states are different than other states but it's true in some states as well, one county may have less testing capacity. so you want these to be made at a very micro, local level as much as possible so you have the data available to have the most flexible response. it might be in places where you can do this and in another town where you can't do these types of things. i really want these decisions made with the best data at hand, really keeping track of how many cases we're expected to see when you increase -- decrease social distancing measures. >> of course, a key is testing.

we have the gofb vernor of new k going to the white house today to try to break through the communication gap if you will. we're told you have plenty of test facilities throughout your states, even larry hogan being told by the president, very public criticism today, we don't know how many tests are out there. governor hogan went out, with his wife who comes from south korea, managed to buy $9 million of test kits and other components needed from south korea, which is extraordinary. what about all of the components that are needed and supply chain that is just not working for the governors, where the president is saying it's all available? >> this is a complicated decision, to think about making sure your testing capacity is robust. it's not just having the test kits, it's having the reagents, having the nasal swabs, having programs in place that doctors order tests seamlessly without bureaucracy they have to go through. that's something they have not

seen in many places. there are places bitter in the last couple of weeks than it has been early irin this pandemic but we're not there in every state. that is why a lot of these decisions will be based on the availability of testing. that will be a cornerstone how we move through the next phase of this pandemic, being able to find these individuals infected and isolate them. >> and the president in kind of having a victory lap at some of these briefings was talking just last night about how he and the steps that he took, in his view, prevented far worse death toll. let me play a little bit of that for you and get your reaction. >> one of the great economic stories in history, i'm the last person that wanted to do it, but we did the right thing. if we didn't do it, you would have had a million people, a million and a half people, maybe 2 million people dead. we're going towards 50,000 or

60,000 people. one is too many. i always say it, one is too many. but we're going towards 50,000 or 60,000 people. >> do you think that that is the horrible toll that we're looking at, 50,000 or 60,000? is that realistic number now? >> i do think it looks like a realistic number now based on what we're learning about this virus, what its true base reality is. models are often hard to interpret. they have assumptions built into them. it's clear many models overestimated some of the hospital rate data and that's why you are seeing this revised downward. we have averted the worst of this, it seems to me. but i wouldn't necessarily take a victory lap over this. we have a virus spreading in china since november and had respiratory spread between individuals very well established. we basically waited two months before the major response efforts were put into place.

we did not have testing scaled up. we had overly restrictive testing protocols and made this a illness of traveling in the minds of most in americans and doctors which led these lines free and start chains of transmission. all of this could have been avoided if we had a robust protocol in place at the outset and move away from containment trying to say this is just a china problem to one saying this is going to be in the united states, it's going to be everywhere, we snead need to gey now. that wasn't done. that's something many organizations have been warned against, you cannot think about these problems on the other side of the world and wait until they come here and respond after the fact. that's the situation we're in. >> such an important warning. thank you so much for the fact check, as always, dr. amisha dalja. with appreciate it. enchsz let's go to our capitol correspondent kasie hunt. a lot of updates, with a bill of

$400 billion plus. what have you learned there? >> that's right, we're almost at the point they're ready to announce a deal. kefb anticipate mccarthy put it that way in the last hour he did on fox news saying a deal was done on the small business funding. other understanding is until everything is done, it's not completely finished. and we're still waiting on sources of both sides of the aisle and both sides of the capitol to say they're weighing in full speed on this. but that said we're expecting the senate to pass this, this afternoon at the pro forma session they're holding. wooer expected to hear from the senate majority leader mitch mcconnell at that point. the final wrangling, all of the leaders on the phone with white house administration officials late last night, talking about how to allocate this money for testing in particular. it's one of the final things they were talking about. there's $25 billion in the bill for testing but there's

obviously differences between what democrats wants to do, who the white house wants to do and even republicans want to do. they want a national strategy from the white house, the president say himself he wants governors to take theed lead on this. there were congressional republicans, meanwhile, pushing for a bigger role for private industry and making sure americans can get the tests that they need. but it will look like we're on track at this point. there's no reason as of right now at this rate, our conversation here, andrea, to think that this is going to get derailed. apdia? >> briefly, casey, what about the house? are they still wrangling over a separate vote so they could have proxy voting in the future? when will the house come back? >> this is a big question that congress had not been able to meet during the pandemic. right now republicans want a chance to vote, do a recorded vote on this new interim package. that means everyone has to come back to washington. democrats have been working on a plan to allow people to vote by

proxy so another member can vote on your behalf but right now we're hearing republicans are not ready to make that change. nancy pelosi could in theory do it with a majority of her members but the reality is, you really need bipartisan buy-in to make such a major change like that. if they don't have it, i struggle to see how we'll end up with any sort of remote voting plan. andrea? >> "kasie dc," i see you got the fuchsia memo today. we're twinning. thank you very much. coming up -- president trump is halting the u.s. despite the administration being closed. is it public health or politics? and the tale of two countries, different steps two european nations are taking to reopen. stay with us. you're watching "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. ♪ ♪

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president trump tweeted last night that he will sign an executive order stopping all immigration for now, at least, due to covid-19 fears. but what are the facts? or is this a political dog whistle to energize his base? how is stopping immigration now consistent with the president's signals that the pandemic crisis is being managed and states should start reopening? joining me now are nbc news white house correspondent kristen welker, also co-anchor of "weekend today" and ben rhodes, former obama national white house security adviser. great to see you both. let's talk about the president's

agenda on twitdter that he will stop immigration. first of all, is this anything imminent? will this actually happen? >> it doesn't appear it's imminent, andrea. in talking to administration officials they say the details are still being hammered out. they say yes, it's possible this executive order could potentially be signed this week, but it's my sense that a lot of these details are still under consideration based on conversations with administration officials. national security advise er robt o'brien stressing if it happens, these would be a temporary suspension on immigration. and we have to underscore this fact, andrea, the fact the administration has largely already stopped immigration. visa processing, all nonessential travel to the northern border has been stopped at this point, halted. you're absolutely right, it undercuts the president's argument that the country is ready to open back up on may 1. so all of those issues are at

the forefront as the administration tries to hammer out what could be the details of this executive order that the president says he's going to sign. of course, immigration has been a signature issue for this president. it was that platform that helped him get elected in 2016 and, of course, all of this does come against the back drdrop off an election year. undoubtedly this type of language in a tweet last night will energize his base. but i'm i told the details are still being hashed out at this hour. >> and there's also the president's attack on larry hogan and republican governor of maryland, who is also the head of the national government association regarding test kits being so available. wanted to play the president from his briefing and governor hogan's response on "morning joe." >> we provided each governor with a list of names, addresses and phone numbers of the labs where they could find additional

testing capacity within their states. some of the governors, like an an example, the governor from maryland didn't really understand the list. he didn't understand too much about what was going on. so now i think he will be able to do that. it's pretty simple. but they have tremendous capacity. >> every governor in america has been fighting to get tests since the beginning of this crisis, and it's probably been the number one problem in america throughout this entire crisis. the president said that the governors are on their own and they should really focus on getting their own tests, and that's exactly what we did. his message changed yesterday. i'm not sure why. >> it's very confusing, isn't it, ben rhodes. the governor of maryland, with his wife who was born in korea, to order $9 million of test kits and other paraphernalia from korea, which arrived on a korean airlines delivery. not every governor can do that,

as mario cuomo was pointing out today. >> yes, andrea, and it connects to the immigration point. the reality is what the united states needs is a nationwide testing regimen. we have to compete against one another because the government has not put into place a plan. instead of adjusting to the realities of the pandemic, when we had ebola, we had to adjust the federal government to stop the disease, doing contact tracing in the united states, developing treatments. everything else you're doing kind of gets put on hold. instead of pivotaling to doing what was necessary, like countries like south korea are doing, testing, to make sure it's safe to reopen the economy, trump pivots back to things he's comfortable with. we get an immigration ban, which doesn't make sense. we get the rhetoric attacking governors. efforts to call this the china virus. those are things familiar, easy for trump to do. that's why his political instincts lead him. but that's not necessary now in the country.

it's both a distraction and worrying power grab, frankly, at a time we're in a crisis and i think we've seen other leaders take advantage of crises to advance their agendas in ways like contradicting or suspend immigration. >> i wanted to also play what he said on saturday night about kim jungen, who some say are some reports he's suffering from some sort of post-surgical health problem. this is what the president had to say this past saturday night. he brought it up on his own. >> north korea, they're testing short-range missiles, have been doing it a long time. i received a nice note from him recently. look, if i wasn't elected right now, you would be at war for north korea. i'll tell you for people who don't understand the world and how life works. >> i want to correct myself, ben. he was asked about a number of countries including north korea and whether there were threats

from the countries. but the fact is he didn't indicate a problem with north korea. are we assessing what's going on with kim jong-un? he did not show up on a key date, april 15th, founder's day, his grandfather's day of founding the nation. that that hasn't happened before. >> it's striking he would not turn up for that and there are reports there are health problems. kpg conditioning is not a healthy problem. he's overweight, bad habits. but we don't have a lot of insight what's going on there. it's a pretty black box. the likelihood something might be wrong with him. sure, he's not a healthy individual and has not been seen in public for a long time. i just don't know at this point there are credible reports he's seriously gravely ill. what we know is why he might send notes to donald trump, that's the only thing that's come out of this diplomacy. his nuclear weapons he continues to produce. he continues to test missiles. that problem is continuing to deteriorate in any event.

>> ben rhodes, thank you so much. kristen welker, of course, our white house correspondent. coming up, as the number of positive covid-19 decreases across europe, what are other countries there doing to get back to a new normal. and a little later, former secretary of state madeleine albright joining me on the importance of leadership during a global crisis. stay with us. you're watching "andrea mitchell reports." needles. essential for the sea urchin, but maybe not for people with rheumatoid arthritis. because there are options. like an "unjection™".

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as the covid-19 crisis begins to plateau in you were 00, some countries are taking the first steps of getting back to some kind of normal. spain is now allowing some nonessential shops to reopen. denmark is the first nation to reopen some schools. willem marks and holly hunter are joining me now. mark, to you, some are offended the shops are reopening? >> yes, this is the capital of spain, and the streets here are incredibly quiet and emtdy. but beyond grocery stores you're seeing some smaller businesses allowed to reopen, beauticians, tobaccoists, news agents. i was talking to a guy who runs one of the largest charles kol managers in the world. he said his facilities keep workers separated on different shift patterns to try to do all of the work necessary while keeping them safe. the agriculture states are in

big trouble, just as some of harvesting season starts for vegetables and fruits over the coming weeks. farmers telling us, associations telling us they're struggling to get the migrant workforce back into spain in order to help harvest those products. when you talk about tourism, it's 13% to 15% gdp, huge part of the economy, one in eight jobs tied to that sector. the labor ministry here over the weekend saying that is a sector that will not be back as normal, this summer their high season. >> thank you very much. amazing to see empty streets in madrid. holly hunter has what's happening in schools over in denmark. >> that's right, andrea, every country is doing it slightly different, sending different sections back to normalcy. dep mark sent children and students under the age of 11. so kindergarten, early primary schools are back but the

governors made it clear if they're not comfortable with that yet, which many are not, they don't actually have to. i will play a response from a mother who decided to keep their children at home. >> i don't think it's right for the kids not to be able to hug all of their friends. they have to be separate and in small groups. it's not possible for kids not to run around in the playground when they see a friend. their food is usually a very social time in the day cares. right now they have to eat individually and they all have to bring separate food. >> as that mother hinted, school looks very different. so it's not actually the same as before. no longer are the students sharing one big desk. they have desks six feet apart, annedia. lun lunchtime, no longer a big social experience. recess, they can only play in small groups keeping six feet of social distance. that's really hard to tell a

5-year-old, of course, to stay that far apart from their friends no. hugs, no high had much fives. but denmark will watch the next couple of weeks to see if this works, if they can roll this out for older students. dealing with the same economic dilemma that every country, including the u.s. is. the argument is fairly easy to put the workforce back to work if they're not home schooling 6-year-olds. but the footwork is a little too early to tell and clearly everybody will be watching denmark closely. andrea? >> thank you very much to molly hunter and willem marks. coming up next -- how is new york city feeding its residents as the crisis continues? i will talk to new york city's food czar ahead. first, a look at women world leaders running circles around their male counterparts during the crisis. secretary of state mad lip albrig madeleine albright is next. madeleine albright is next saturdays happen.

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number of cases in her country to just over 1,400. >> because we believe that decisive action, going hard and going early, gave us the very business chance of stamping out the virus. and it has. we have done what very few countries have been able to do, we have stopped a wave of devastation. >> many of the countries with the best responses have one thing in common, women leaders. joining me now is the first woman to be secretary of state, madeleine albright, who also served as u.s. ambassador to the u.n. her new book is "hell and other destinations the 21st century memoir." madam secretary, i'm lucky enough to have a copy of the book, which is really, really valuable as we're stuck here at home. but it's a wonderful, wonderful companion to have you with us here live today and with your new book as well.

let's talk about women leaders. it's so striking that women have really been in the forefront. this is a subject you talked about. you're talking about the leadership void in this new book as well that we sheer in the united stat -- see here in the united states frankly. look at the way women have taken leadership around the world. >> i find it very interesting and i can tell you what i think has happened. first of all, i think you just heard it with the new zealand prime minister, to take decisive action. women actually know how to do that. i do think that we have certain characteristics that are helping. first of all, i think we're good at multitasking because that's what one has to do as a woman to think about your home and your children and your job and various other aspects. and it gives you peripheral vision. then i also think that we have the capability of learning from our lessons and having empathy. and i think the way many women

have come to power has been through hard work and actually being polite and nice to the people around them rather than kind of being egotistical about how they're getting there. and i think also this kind of not being afraid to tell it like it is and so i think it is interesting in terms of what are the characteristics of women that allow this. then i think the last one -- and it's germane, especially, is that we like our children to agree with each other, to have some unity in the family and not pit one child against another. and try to divide. i think what we try to do is bring together. so having some resiliency, working together, and telling it like it is. >> i'm really struck by how much multitasking is an issue for so many women who are working from home, home schooling their kids, managing families, worrying

about health care for spouses and partner and children and themselves. from your experiences, you're one of the supreme multitaskers having raised your daughters and doing it all while having very high-profile jobs. >> it is actually essential. and it's something we get criticized for, for not concentrating enough, but i actually think the multitasking is very, very important. also my new book in many ways is about multitasking, of how to bring the various things together that i've done since i left office. and in my own head, and i hope in the book, explaining how they go together. and that's part of multitasking, is not kind of dividing one thing from another but learning from what you're doing and being proud of having that peripheral vision but seeing a little bit more around you and what needs to be done, empathy. >> i know that you're one of the most popular professors still

ongoing with online teaching as well. what are the stressors you're seeing in your students and challenges for college kids not having the excitement, enjoyment of commencement, those seniors as well as those afraid to go out in this new world? >> i am teaching now. and i'm doing it via zoom. the students have been truly remarkable in terms of the way they participate and ask questions. we just did the popular that's most popular about my course, which is a game simulation. we happen to have done venezuela. and they did it brilliantly by taking a crisis, which i made up about a ship being embarked upon by the venezuelans and stealing humanitarian goods, but they turned the crisis into an opportunity of solving some of the other political issues. so we've been talking about it in terms of what you learn from it. and i have learned an awful lot from my students. i do feel terrible about the

fact that they can't enjoy some of the big events like graduations, and that i, as a total extrovert, can't get strength from seeing them on the screen and not being able to really see and feel how they're feeling. but i do think -- and i -- because i'm an optimist, i have decided in many ways they are going to be really well trained to deal with the future. we've criticized them for being online too much or not socializing or having no sense of privacy because they say everything about themselves. so i think they're going to be prepared for the next phase of life here, and i count on them. i learn a lot from my students. >> and i know they learn so much from you. what about the president's executive order that he says he's going to sign to stop immigration. it's for all intents and purposes already been stopped. but as an immigrant of this country fleeing from the nazis

with your family after the war, how do you feel about the president's messaging on immigration? >> well, i'm stunned. and i really do think that the statue of liberty is weeping. it is un-american. and i was asked recently to describe myself in six words, which was a worried hospital mist, a problem sol ander and a grateful american. and i am a grateful americanm. t and i do think immigrants want to help participate and make a difference. but as you point out, all of this has basically been done through some kind of order, and the fact the system isn't set up to even interview people at this point. i think he did it for political reasons. i think he wants to kind of shut down america, which as far as i'm concerned is un-american. we are a country that has had and needs to have an important role internationally. we are not the kind of country

that wants walls around us. we want to be out there and participate what is going on internationally in every way. so i was quite appalled. the truth is i am tired of getting appalled because every day there was something contradictory to what was said the day before and it gets extremely confusing. what is needed in a leader is to take responsibility and be predictable. you can't be unpredictable all the time. >> madeline albright, you, madam secretary, are predictably wonderful and your books are always best sellers. so congratulations in advance on that. and thank you again. i just wish i could be one of your students. >> thank you so much. it's good to be with you. stay safe. >> you too. and now i want to take a moment to remember some of the lives well lived but shortened by the coronavirus. anthony denoyior was a volunteer with new york suffolk county police department 6789 for nearly two decades. he leaves behind a wife and two

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food czar for new york city. commissioner, thank you very much. how are you going to handle this crisis? what is the challenge for you to make sure that you can deliver free meals to the -- to all who need it in new york city? >> it is an overwhelming challenge in terms of just the amount of need in new york city. and so we're really feeling it across multiple platforms. the first we did have a food pantry system that was pretty strong in new york. we are adding additional funding to places like food bank and city harvest to make sure they can continue to do their job. in addition, we are using all -- many of new york city's public schools to do grab and go meals. they did almost 400,000 yesterday. i anticipate that that will be true today as well. and then we have the delivery where we have paired out of work taxi drivers to do the delivery of food to home-bound people.

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other in this? >> they are my main source of comfort. i'm lucky because i can talk to my siblings because they know exactly what we're going through. >> and that was anish, amira and ishmael. if their inspiring work was not enough, their father is a nurse manager at that same hospital in the bronx. he's worked there for nearly 30 years. our thanks to kate snow for that. that does it for "andrea mitchell reports." remember, follow the show online on facebook and on twitter @mitchellreports. be safe. take care of your families and your friends. take care of yourself. chuck todd is picking up the coverage after this brief break. s to help support thyroid, bone, hair and skin health. all with great taste. new, boost women. designed just for you.

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♪ good afternoon. i'm chuck todd. let's get to the facts this hour. today, senate minority leader chuck schumer says he believes the white house and democrats have a deal on the latest coronavirus relief bill and that the senate could pass it as early as this afternoon. also right now, new york governor andrew cuomo is on his way to the white house for an in-person meeting with president trump on the issue of coronavirus testing. he announced a downward trend for hospitalizations in his state.