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hi, everyone. it's 4:00 in the east. with more than 800,000 cases of coronavirus now reported in the u.s. and nearly 45,000 deaths, the trump administration's response has officially become a three-ring center. in the center ring, of course, the president shamelessly encouraging states to open ahead of adequate testing or supply chains. in the next ring is the coronavirus task force suggesting with a straight face there may be a way to social distance while giving haircuts and tattoos. in the third ring the truth teryl. the head of the cdc saying the next wave of the coronavirus is heading our way next winter.

if you're feeling a little confused or distrust the information from the trump administration is easy to see why. we are learning that covid-19 has been here in the u.s. longer than we thought. officials announcing last night that a california resident died of coronavirus on february 6th, 23 days earlier than what was thought to be the first coronavirus death in the country. what is more, there is no evidence that the patient traveled to any high-risk covid hot spot, which means the virus was likely contracted in his or her community. its evidence that it was already spreading right here in the u.s. much sooner than we knew. as "the new york times" writes, quote, this shift in timing raises new questions about when the virus arrived in this country and how it spread and how government officials approached the strategy to slow the spread. "the times" points out, quote, at the time of the first death american officials were restricteding travel from china but what is the point of a travel ban when the virus is already here? we will talk more about that question and how the changing

time line of covid in the u.s. might alter our understanding of where the virus stands today. but, first, that stark warning from the head of the cdc who said this, quote. there is a possibility that the assault of the virus on our nation next winter will actually be even more difficult than the one we just went through. cdc director robert redfield said in an interview with "the washington post" adding this, quote, we are going to have the flu and the coronavirus epidemic at the same time. having two simultaneous respiratory outbreaks would put unimaginable strain on the health care system, he said. donald trump seemed to go out of his way to make the opposite point at his briefing last night. >> i see light at the end of the tunnel. i actually see a lot of light at the end of the tunnel. and we are starting the process. we are starting a very, very powerful important process. you see that people are getting very anxious.

they want it get going and they want to get back to their jobs and they want to make money and they want to take care of their families, so the light is getting brighter and brighter every day. >> and deborah birx the top pandemic specialist on the president's task force may have strained some of her credibility when she said there might be a creative way to maintain social distance when giving a haircut or tattoo. >> how do you safely have hair salons and nail salons and tattoo parlors -- >> where? >> in g. where people inherently have to be close together. >> i believe people in atlanta, georgia would understand if their cases are the not going down they need to continue what we said, social distancing, washing your hands, wearing a mask in public. so if there is a way that people can social distance and do those things, then they can do those things. i don't know how, but people are very creative.

>> the incredible state of mixed and often contradictory messages is where we start today with some of our favorite reporters in france. dr. leonard erwin is here from columbia university' white house bureau chief of "the washington post" bill rucker is back and dr. donna edwards is here. doctor, i want to start with you. i am not without sympathy for people who have to try to serve the public and also serve druf. that said, to me, it seemed that dr. birx squandered some of her credibility with the 100% of the american public that is interested in what people like herself and doctor fauci have to say when she suggested or refused to condemn from a public health standpoint the decision on georgia's part to open up hair salons and tattoo parlors and gyms. >> well, you called it a three-ring circus. i hope it's just three rings. but it seems much more dire than

that. we have an incredible array of mixed messaging coming from the top which, of course, undermines any ability to figure out what the right strategy is. is it possible to open up a beauty salon? might be, but not right now. not with the limited amount of testing we have. we can't go into a beauty parlor or a barber shop and not show whether the barber has covid-19 or not or whether i have it and give it to the barber or anybody else in the shop. so all of these things are potentially doable. trump called this a light at the end of the tunnel. yeah, there is a light at the end of the tunnel but it's probably the longest tunnel one would possibly imagine and the light at the end of this tunnel is increasingly difficult to see what the pathway is to get there, at least under this ve disorganized and dysfunctional message that is coming from the top, nicole. >> what would your guidance be about georgia's plan for reopening?

are they trying to do too much too soon, or are those things that should be on the table for any state? >> first of all, i want to be sympathetic and say this on behalf of the entire public health community. nobody wants to delay any more than necessary the reopening of the american business and everyday people getting their incomes back. that goes for sure. the problem is this question of which we keep repeating, can we open safely or not? but we can't open safelily unless we can do testing and unless we can do a very effective and very efficient contact tracing to make sure we follow up with people who might be positive. we make sure we have new rules to the workplace. my assistant will put on a report next several days that get specific about this. but to promise to give false hope to americans that this could be done safely the next few weeks is preposterous. i really feel sorry that dr. pbirx is putting herself on the line like that. i can't imagine what it must be

like to be working for the trump administration and trying to be true to the science and the evidence, say what makes sense, and still not get fired by a very erratic boss. it's a tough position for her to be in and i do feel sorry for her, nicole. >> you know, phil rucker, science is really fascinating foe for this president that your newspaper has clocked 16,000 lies come out of his mouth. we played the last hour half a dozen instances where he said everything from try it to what have you got to lose about a drug treatment that was just studied and rendered to not be an effective or safe treatment for covid-19. i know we always ask this question about guardrails, but is there any respect for the scientists and the job they have, especially anthony fauci, of leading a department full of

scientists? >> well, nicole, there are a couple of scientists around the table with the president, doctors fauci and birx are two of them but not to say they have having a great deal of influence with him. they have access to him and they are able to present information to him, but this is a president who, in his predayses of coronavirus who put emotion and anecdote and his gut instincts above raw intelligence and above fact and above science. he always feels like he is the one with the best instincts and knows where to go and knows what to decide irrespective of what the experts around him have to say. i have to think back that visit he made early on during this pandemic to the cdc headquarters down in atlanta. >> yeah. >> where he was getting a tour of the facility by some of the medical experts there and he went on and on about what genius he is, the president is, when it comes to science and medicine and maybe he should have gun into that field. he, of course, is not educated in that field and is not

credentialed in that field, but has so much faith in his own gut and his own instincts that it overrides a lot of times what the facts say and what the science lays bear. >> i'm really good at this stuff, they couldn't believe how good at this stuff he said. then i think he dropped in that he was related to someone who went to mit or something. i'll never forget that and i'll never be the same. he was also wearing a red -- not a -- mega hat but a keep america great heart and a wind breaker. he also a slave to the polls and here is what the polls say about easing socially distancing restrictions. this is in the important coronavirus hot spot, but also an important political state of florida. 72% would like socially distancing restrictions extended into may appear only 22% would like them loosened by the end of april. so the president now at odds with the political will of a

pretty important state in terms of defeating and pushing back against the spread of coronavirus, as well as the state that i'm sure, more important to the president, is a political battleground. >> it's really interesting because before this pandemic began florida was seen as a swing state leaning in the president's direction and there were some doubts whether the democratic nominee would really contest that state as aggressively as some of the other swing states because of trump's popularity there. yet we are seeing the floridians are not in agreement with the president of wanting to restart the economy so soon. one demographic to keep an eye on is people over age 65 seniors. they are most vulnerable to the coronavirus but also a very important voting block for the president in his re-election campaign yoacross the country a

also in florida where so many retirees move. i would like to see how the demographic shifts in these polls. >> donna, it's a great point and a political contingency even if we hadn't been in the throes of a global pandemic, joe biden is very strong in that age group as well. i want to ask you as we come on the air, this is, again, sort of a recurring plot twist in the trump story. there is an attempt at a walk-back, not from the head of the cdc, but from the white house about the head of the cdc said about a potentially more deadly second wave of coronavirus. if you need any evidence that in this three-ring circus everyone is getting pressure and a squeeze from donald trump to stay on his chosen political message, it's happening in real-time as we are talking. the president is talking about a new statement saying the cdc director was totally misquoted by fake news cnn on covid.

he will be putting out a statement. that usually is a public extortion or a public threat. the statement hasn't come out yet. the quote was in an interview in "the washington post," not cnn, showing that president, again, isn't getting his information from anything he reads, but from the cable network he just can't quit, cnn. >> well, you know, nicole the director of the cdc is in the same position as dr. birx. anyone around the president eventually finds himself swirling around in the muck of the president's object fscution they choose to be in the good graces of president of the united states. here is where we are potentially losing lives and so i fully expect every time the president takes to the podium, he will lie

and obje and. d dr. birx and her to american people -- doing that as well. it really does great damage to the public that is confused about what the guidelines mean, what the restrictions are, what the risks are going into the future and, frankly, the information from the cdc yesterday, the director's statements were perhaps the most chilling that we have heard because we weren't prepared before, we are not prepared now, and it is difficult to see how this president and this administration will make certain that we are prepared when the fall comes. >> dr. redliner, i want to ask you for your help in helping us as a public understand what it means that they are now reporting that the first known covid death in this country came

more than three weeks earlier than we thought. what does that mean? >> so, by the way, there is an extraordinary implications of that because, first of all, if we knew that, we would have gotten the testing program under way much, much sooner and we would have known a whole lot more about the prevalence of covid-19 in our society. but the second thing is that it also says to me that the actually death toll, the fatality rate for covid-19 is probably some multiple of what we actually know now, because i think a lot of people, unfortunately, perished from covid-19 before we got our testing program under way. and the fact that we had such an early case that is just now being discovered has these huge implications for the problems with going so wrong and taking so long to develop the testing we needed. >> donna, again, it comes as no surprise but the president said the opposite yesterday.

he said we have tested more than any country in the world and some of the countries are very big. i don't know what he meant by "big." but he likes that word. more than any country in the world. we have one of the most successful, if you can call mortality rates, because one person and i always say that for you in particular, one person is too many, but we have done very well, our testing. if you add them all up, we have tested more. i don't know what mike pence said and the rest is nonsense cal. but, donna, either someone is lying to him or he is lying to us. the testing is a scandal in and of itself so wrote peggy noonan about a week ago. >> well, the story every single day, every single week is testing. not enough tests, not enough density of tests so we really don't know what is going on with this virus. and the president keeps saying that and i want to scream. i know i scream from my sofa. per capita, per capita!

because the president fails to realize even though we have done maybe a lot of tests, we haven't gotten the density that the medical professionals say that we need. and so, you know, the president can make up his own reality about the prevalence of this virus and the toll that it's taking, but every single day, like many americans, i go on to the johns hopkins website and i look to see the death toll and what is happening in my state and around the country and those numbers don't lie. this president has failed and he continues to fail, especially with it comes to testing. if you want to get the economy going again, we must do the kind of testing, you know, all of the screening that we need to give people confidence to go back out into the economy as workers, as consumers in this country, and that has not happened today and it's hard to see how it happens

on a large scale in the foreseeable future, no matter what it is that the president says today or tomorrow standsin at that podium. >> donna and phil and leonard, thank you for spending time with us and starting us off. when we become, the individuals protesting socially distancing. their backers are aligned with some of the most politically connected people on the planet with ties, you guessed it, all the way to the trump white house. we will bring you that coming up. also ahead, the trump family has its hand out for assistance from the trump administration. we will bring you the latest conflict of interest story to confront the trump organization. the verdict is in from the political-led senate intel committee. yes, russia attacked the election in 2016, and, yes, they wanted trump. all of those stories are coming

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these are unprecedented burdenses right now. we are looking carefully at number of these rules that are being put into place and if we think one goes too far, we initially try to draw up on the governors or rolling them back or ajutting them. and if they are not, and people bring lawsuits, we file statement of interest and side with the plaintiffs. >> that was the attorney general of the united states, a republican, and the top lawyer in the federal government, threatening to take action against states -- now remember old-fashioned republicans used to believe in state's rights -- he is now threatening to take legal action against states who

follow socially distancing guidance recommended to them by donald trump's coronavirus task force. it is so bleeped up, we need new words for bleeped up. welcome to 2020. in wisconsin the decision to tick with in-person primary day voting has been linked to six coronavirus infections in the state's biggest city. they are suing to block the democratic governor to prevent stay-at-home protections. the president and his political allies are green lighting or goose is spilling out into the country. every time we show you a picture of the protests, the people taking part this nrepresent overwhelming minuscule of the public. news outlets are giving an investigative look. "the washington post" details a powerful network working behind

the scenes. quote. "the new york times" calls it a quiet hands writing this. quote. joining our conversation former rnc chairman, michael steele, and national political reporter for "the washington post" bob costa. michael steele, i'm not even going to ask you what is wrong with bill barr. >> don't. >> conservative attacking state's rights to protect their

citizens makes every circuit in my brain blow once and for all. >> this isn't conservatism. this is trumpism. so i think we need to be clear. >> right. >> about the distinction between the two. number one. number two, the only spontaneous thing that has happened in the republican party occurred in 2009 with the rise of the tea party under my watch at the rnc. since then, since about 2012 or so, this is all been a part of a continuing orchestration effort that is funded, that has been manipulated, and pushed out into the public by a host of interests. some financial, some political. operating aside the party which has become even more operationalized in the trump era. i think context is important here and investigation is begun to take place about the spontaneous quiet hand of players sort of behind the scenes is being played out on the streets of wisconsin and

annapolis here in the stayed of maryland and elsewhere. very little regard to public health and safety. but stoking a political narrative or a political agenda that mimics and reinforces what you hear the president do two hours a day doing his coronavirus press rallies. >> bob costa, it is your paper's investigative reporting "the times" investigative reporting that brought to light the who. take us through who some of these groups are stoking and funding and organizing protests against policies being advanced and recommended by trump coronavirus task force. >> "the washington post" in its reporting reveal a whole group of conservative donors like robert mercer donated to little groups but well known in this protesting community. the convention of states for

helping to coordinate at some level some of these protests in different states. you see a lot of the tea party groups. remember, robert mercer was a long time benefactor for steve bannon, the chief strategist for president trump. all of these interlocking lines and parallel networks within the right wing as they look at these states and governor ron desantis of florida, for example, has been a supporter of some of these groups that are now organizing these protests. but they have real consequences beyond just being a right wing revival and revival of the tea party. i've spoken to the governors of michigan and illinois. pritzker worries about violence on the streets of his state because of these protests and president trump's liberate rhetor rhetoric. >> bob costa, you're the second person this week to raise the potential of violence. -- was the first.

we hold bernie sanders a standard to disainvoicing hateful rhetoric from online from his supporters. we held presidents bush and president obama responsible for the conduct of their supporters at rallies and in the public square. is anyone holding the president or robert mercer accountable for this? i mean, has there been any effort? is there anyone in the senate or in congress that can call and say, hey, you're playing a dangerous game? >> it's clear, based on my reporting, that the republican party nationwide feels tense pressure to reopen these states. when they see the protests, they are not condemning them at all or if they see a confederate flag, they will condemn. you have all of these congregations coming together and people not socially

distancing and they may be spreading covid-19 into the community. i asked her will you shut any future protests down and she said, of course, there is a constitutional concern here. and that is has a lot of republicans not weighing in is, one, they don't want to aalarm fres tru president trump but they don't want to be seen on the wrong side of free speech in that wing of the republican party. >> wow. what a commentary. bob and michael are not going anywhere. donald trump's company is asking the administration a little favor, another one in a long line of unsavory collisions between the two. (announcer) in this world where people are staying at home,

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we have got some breaking news from maggie haberman of "the new york times" who reports a doctor rah removed from his federal post after pressing for rigorous vetting of treatments embraced by trump.

haberman reports the doctor who led the federal agency in developing a coronavirus vaccine said on wednesday he was removed from his post after he pressed for a rigorous vetting of a coronavirus treatment em brbrac by president trump. the doctor said science and c e cronyism must lead the way. he was dismissed as the deputy assistant secretary for preparedness and response. he was demoted. he says this in a statement to "the times." i believe this transfer, this new job, was in response to -- or here is how he explains speaking out. i'm speaking out because to combat the deadly virus, science, not politics, nor cr n cronyism has to lead the way. this is a remarkable piece of reporting from the outside is ugly but, apparently, inside, the collision between the scientists and the president

much more violent that even what we see from the outside. joining this part of the conversation is paul of "the daily beast." sam stein. michael steele is also still here. sam, you came on to talk about the conflict of interest but this is a blockbuster development. anyone that watches these briefings can sort of feel and we talked about dr. birx at the top of the show. you can feel the strain on people who have science as their religion in trying to navigate the country through a pandemic with donald trump as the country's president, who is, if not oblivious, distainful and distrustful of science. this story is another proof point of that, sam. >> yeah, in awashings this y, t conflict interest of story. one is a political interest and the other is a scientific and medical interest. this has been a currant has been apparent for months now since

covid burst on to the scene which the president who is a fairly open distrustful of science and has been a part of this episode, has, at times, respected the public health officials in his orbit and, at times, been clearly more interested in prospects of his re-election campaign. that has never been more so the push than pushing hydroxy chloroquine as a panacea to this virus. there is no reliable scientific evidence, peer-reviewed scientific evidence to suggest this therapy is effective. in fact, recent studies show perhaps dire complications that come along with using it as a treatment. for weeks, president trump was touting it as a potential savior to the crisis that we are in. why he was doing that was a question that reporters like myself were looking into. was it a financial interest? was it something he just happened to see a lot of on fox news and get really into?

now we know the extent to which he was pushing this was far more than just during these televised briefings that the lead scientist who is in charge of trying to develop a therapy here felt pressure to push this forward and ultimately removed when he tried to pump the brakes on a new scientific method. if you're someone sitting outside observing this, this is a remarkable and depressing development. it shows that politics actually supersede science when we are fighting a medical pandemic, the likes we haven't seen in a century. so hopefully we can get more answers here. this doctor is now being represented by a prominent d.c. firm and he has called for the inspector general of the department of hhs to look into the matter. i have to think that he will be potentially talking with members of congress as well who will have undoubtedly strong interests in figuring out exactly what happened here. >> you know, michael steele, i always wondered at what point the scandal that the white house is sort of creating in real-time would spill into sort of the red

zone where congress would have to, sam stein just suggested, commence hearings, something probably not advisable for their safety either. here is more of the doctor in his own words explaining how he ended up demoted. he says he resisted efforts to fund potentially dangerous drugs promoted by those with political connections. dr. bright, the ousted doctor, a career official and now a political appointee pointed to the initial efforts to make clor convene and hydroxy clor convene available before it was scientifically tested. he said i limited the broad use of chloroquine and hydroxy chloroquine as a panacea as sam said but clearly lacked scientific merit. while i am prepared to look at all options and think outside the box for effective treatments, i rightly resisted efforts to provide an unproven drug on demand to the american people. i insisted that these drugs be

provided only to hospitalized patients with confirmed covid-19 while under the supervision of a physician. i wonder what role fox news will have when all of the dust settles in also promoting these drugs that led to this doctor, this top doctor that worked for us, the american people, the american taxpayer, was pushed out because he wouldn't lie about its effectiveness? >> i think all of that is a fair point to raise in terms of fox and all of these other groups and interests outside of the administration, itself. that is just an echo chamber. it's a reinforcement, in many respects, of what the doctor noted is ripe within these departments and agencies themselves and that is the word has come down from on high, that the president is now behind this and wants this to be out there. we have got to reinforce that messaging. and men and women of medical

prudence and common sense are like, no, wait a minute. we can't do that. so this doctor has now stepped up and stated publicly as probably as a point of reference to put a pin in this moment so that going forward from here on and watching how the administration responds to this virus, note that internally, we are getting pressure to fall in line with certain poise nts of w to push certain medical ideas that are -- to what you noted before, the president's own team is out here telling us every day. so you have these bifurcated view on one hand the public is tried to follow the outline by the president and dr. birx and others but internally an

investigation is going on. that doesn't instill confidence but creates nervousness where some will be held accountable. your last point on airings who is showing up for that between now and november? congress can call a hearing all day long. the administration ain't going to have nobody show up and talk about this! >> it's a fair point. the doctor is seeking whistleblower protections. sadly, bleakly, a playbook for the search and destroy missile for trump and his allies for whistleblowers inside the government. >> that, as' we know during the coronavirus saga, the president has inspector generals at several agencies. the doctor has asked the hhs inspector general to look into this matter. trump has already attacked the hhs inspector general for a study on coronavirus. he has delegitimatized already

the gatekeepers, the referees, that anybody who blows the whistle on his actions, in this case with therapies, pushing therapies, will be delegitimatized to 40% to 50% of the country. that is a hurdle as is getting members of congress to look into this stuff. that being said, at a certain point, you do have to conduct oversight. this is not just a political matter as doctor notes in his statement. this is a matter of life and death. are we pushing unproven therapies on unsuspecting people who have their hopes raised by the president? if so, what are the consequences and what kind of precautions are we taking? these are legitimate and important questions that have to be answered and it's just -- it's a remarkable thing, although maybe predictable in this case, that we have an administration that is so willing to dispense a scientific voice in the pursuit of political expen

politic political. trump on day-to-day basis wants to get through a new cycle and an eye toward his election and this is overruling science here. >> i guess it's just even for trump, a remarkable thing to listen, sam stein, to you say it and you, michael steele, say that he basically got caught lying about a drug that not only didn't help people with covid, but could actually kill them, and then fire the doctor that was telling him the truth about it. unbelievable. after the break, it feels like a thousand years ago, but trump, russia, the 2016 election. remember all of that? there are new developments today that further undercut the president's assertion that it was all a hoax. every financial plan needs a cfp® professional --

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it's not every day that the democrats and republicans in congress agree on something, especially when it has to do with donald trump. but the republican-led bipartisan senate intel committee just unanimously endorsed the intelligence committee assessment that russia interfered in the 2016 election on behalf of and to aid donald j. trump. after a three-year long review. richard burr said this, quote. the review undercuts years of trump statements and trump

mischief and allies claiming this was the work of some imagined deep state. michael steele and bob costa and sam stein are still with us. i remember when i was old enough to know this would have led the news. senate side finding that russia did put its finger on the scale for donald trump to help him win in 2016. >> not surprising, but yet another af amir mayion what was found. then the mueller report and now a republican committee. other groups and investigations have all found russian interference in the 2016 election. all of that evidence is clear -- by the russians it was not a hoax and that is the evidence. that is the fact.

>> it's amazing, sam stein, that it has to be underscored and then it has to be held up as facts and that we don't even have any hope that the trump base will hear it, unless and until it comes from a trump ally like richard burr who has sort of morphed into a more trumpian figure than he was than when he started this investigation three years ago. >> it's complicated with burr because he's not widely regarded as an ally in the trump world for reasons that have to do with him actually allowing his committee to go forward with this. that said, you know, i think -- it's a depression one it doesn't quite matter what the facts show. it doesn't quite matter that three worth of investigative findings have led to the conclusion we live in this reality in which a very large trunk of the country will simply

believe what they are told by their elected official but also their echo chambers. they don't venture far outside of them so they don't have challenged by countervailing opinions or facts. i think the case with russia. it's very clear that everyone who looked into it that russia had their fingers on the scale. you can debate how heavy they were weighing on it. you can have debates whether they actually colluded and the definition is, but it's very clear that they wanted trump to be elected president. every investigative body has found that out. for some people that will never either be accepted or dismissed as an irrelevant distraction and that is just the political reality we live in. >> michael steele, the russia deniers should be treated like anti- -- with distain and the idea that -- we have this open question about whether a republican-led committee saying the intel committee was right

all along. it's too late to restore jim comey's reputation. he was one of the first casualties of the russia probe and andy mccabe destroyed in a brutal brutal way than even comey, and count less careers, and they're still a criminal investigation under way for the intelligence and law enforcement officials. and i wonder when, if ever, there will be any accountability for the people on the other side trying to destroy good public officials and the intelligence and law enforcement community trying to have this county try's ba -- country's back against russia. >> that's not going to happen whether or not that ends in november or through 2023 and

2024. the damage has kbn done and that culminated with us being told what we should think and know about the mueller report. so from the standpoint of what others have done in the committee today, okay, thank you. it is anticlimatic. my colleges have pointed out that it is already there. that we know, the reality is what it is. the politics has played itself out, done the damage that the president wanted to be done to individuals and their careers, or more importantly to their work. of so you have a grand number of

supporters that believe this is all a hoax that goes back to undermine the guy that benefits from the evidence. so -- >> it is amazing. michael steel, robert costa, sam stein, truth tellers, but you still depressed me with your truths. it's okay, you're forgiven, you will be back. after the break, a much needed reminder of the reason that we're going through all of this. such great lengths, to socially separate.

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that seats 46,000 people. that is roughly the same number of people that have died so far in the u.s., but it takes a closer look, a zoom in, at the look of the faces to see why social distancing is still, now more than ever, so critical. today we're staying inside for people like the bakers. eleanor and peter, peter was a veteran, a retired new jersey cop, and famous for his blue berry pancakes. after 61 years of marriage, they dayed one day apart of coronavirus. we're also staying inside today for people like skylar hubert. she died on sunday from coronavirus. she loved stuffed animals and wasn't very good at dancing, but

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