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this hour with the debate over when to reopen the country. some states have decided to lift lockdown measures as the number of coronavirus cases continue to mount. in georgia, the governor allowed residents to go to restaurants, gyms and bowling alleys. sam brock is in georgia this afternoon. what has been the reaction on the ground from residents about reopening? >> reporter: so i think you can pretty much slice it up this way, alicia, that those who are coming out right now are comfortable with the risk if there's enough precautions that are being taken. those that are not comfortable are just staying at home or they are protesting the governor. that's what we saw on friday in the decision to open up things like spas and nail salons and barber shops and gyms. i've spoken to many business owners across all of those businesses. if you look at a big shopping center like this, i'm in marietta, georgia, right now. you'll find some places that are open and some that are not. when it comes to what sort of precautions they're taking, this

particular spa did choose to open up when they were given the opportunity. you'll see the signs, take a mask and sanitize your hands, social distance six-foot rule in effect. there is no guidance in the state right now that requires masks for patrons, only for some employees. but here they are requiring it. another, if i walk inside you'll see this plastic wrapping around the ipad so that people around touching it repeatedly over and over and they're only using apple pay. if you move into the reception area, they don't let people just sit there. they're moving them in and out briskly in the rooms. the point is businesses right now are crafting their plans based on how they can maximize safety and reduce the amount of contact between people and other customers. it is impossible, alicia, for you to be an aeft stigz in this business and not touch someone's skin so we asked how are you doing this, how are you

navigating that field? >> we are a business owner, we have our family and if we keep closed, we're going to break our business and lose our jobs. we try to be as safe as we can, like wearing gloves, masks, hand sanitizers. we require our clients to come and have masks and gloves and sanitize their hands before they come in. and this way, i think, it's safe. >> reporter: and whether it is a barber shop or a spa here in georgia, or it's in texas or north carolina or california or anywhere else, the same inherent problems exist, and so what we're seeing in the next week is 16 states have a stay-at-home order that's going to be expiring or they're opening new businesses. the point is if we can develop a blueprint that works, that yes, there is contact between the business owner and the client, but if it maximizes safety,

that's replicate that. because all over the united states in the coming days it's not just georgia, it's not just south carolina. it's going to be tennessee and ohio and colorado. many other states that are reintroducing reopenings into their state. and they've got to figure out a way to manage this. that's the point, and as we mentioned earlier, definitely divided opinion on how well that's going to go. >> sam thank you so much. just three hours south of atlanta is the city of albany, georgia, it is one of the hardest hit in the state with over 1,400 cases on friday. the mayor of albany is with me now. i know that you oppose the governor's decision to reopen. why? >> well, that's easy. we are still recovering here in albany. we've been hit hardest in the state. we know what the devastation

that can result from this virus. we've seen it firsthand and we're just now in the process of recovering, rebounding from the virus and it's not a time to lift the restrictions. >> mayor, when you talk to your constituents, when you talk to business owners in your community, what are you hearing from them? >> well, different things, ms. menendez. the viewers who saw your previous segment saw some of the people in these various businesses have been out of work, have had no income in a month. they are concerned about whether or not they can continue to stay in business. but here in albany, actually i'm very proud, most of our independent restaurants have said we are not going to open up until we have a clearance or more confirmation from the medical community. also, you have the consideration that it was only thursday night when restaurants received the restrictions, which have been imposed by the governor. so there's a lot of uncertainty.

and then here in albany in the present climate, some business owners are convinced folks are not going to come out. they don't have the confidence to do so, which is understandable. >> mayor, you've asked the governor for exemptions to these measures for hot spots. have you heard from the governor's office? >> well, i did not directly. it was the chairman of the county commission, who requested that albany and hot spots be carved out. as you may know, the governor said no city or county can implement any measures which are more stringent than this executive order. i think that was not a very rational decision when you see that the rates of infection are increasing in certain areas in the state. and the chairman of the county commission was informed by the government, some representative of the governor's office that the governor feels there should be a uniform executive order in place. however, i do need to say that the governor's office assured

the chairman of the county commission that in the event we saw an increase in the rate of infection, the state would allocate additional resources to help us combat the virus and bring it under control. >> mayor, when you talk to health experts, health officials, you hear the same thing over and over again, which is that the decision about when to reopen will have to be tied very closely to the availability of testing. what is the availability of testing like right now in your community? >> well, actually, we have been assured that the national guard will be operating a testing site seven days a week. anyone can be tested. i don't know if there's anything like that in the country. that's what they call universal testing. but of course it will be up to our citizens to exercise that opportunity. as i've said, it's not yet online. we're optimistic that we will have testing in place next week. that's beyond what all but the

most stringent advocates for testing call for. that is the availability of testing for everyone. >> all right. mayor, thank you so much for your time. >> thank you for having me. new york's governor announced this week that early antibody test results revealed that one in five new yorkers may have had covid-19. the preliminary results show that more residents were infected than officials originally estimated. msnbc anchor corey coffin joins me now from new york city. what has the city learned from these early test results? >> reporter: i think that it was surprising for city officials to learn just how many cases might be out there that were not recorded. some 14% of people in that early sample study tested positive for having antibodies, which correlates to some 2.7 million people in the state of new york, obviously much higher than the current number of recorded cases at this particular moment.

and of course officials still have to think about the accuracy of the antibody testing. those numbers will likely change as the testing get more and more precise because the fda, of course, had to fast track a lot of these tests. so even as the numbers tweak and get more accurate, we're still going to see a higher rate. and of course as your previous guest just mentioned, governor cuomo says that testing is very closely tied with reopening the state. so they're moving forward on a roll-out basis with that. >> i also want to ask you while i have you, the pentagon has confirmed that the "usns comfort" will head back to virginia. do you have a sense of why this is happening now and what the timeline is? >> reporter: yeah, we've just heard two field hospitals, javits center and "usns comfort" will be doing a draw down and they say that this will happen probably over the next week or so, with the goal of about april 30th. that's not a hard line official set date, but that is the goal

here. and what it looking like is thankfully, as hospitalizations go down, even though the numbers are still very high, hospitals are able to bring those patients in and the beds, the amount of beds that are being used here, for example, at "usns comfort," just 71 yesterday out of the 500 beds they have. so the president has said he would like to move "usns comfort" to its next mission. >> all right. thank you so much. in chelsea, massachusetts, a hot spot for communities of color, antibody testing there has produced alarming results. a survey showed that out of 200 participants, 32% of them had antibodies to the virus. it's a staggering amount compared to the 2% of chelsea residents who have tested positive. here to discuss with us is dr. aaron carroll, a pediatrician and professor of pediatrics at the indiana university school of medicine. great to see you. walk us through this.

what do these antibody tests mean? >> they tell us how many people have already been exposed to the disease and mounted an immune response. we hope that means that they would be immune to it in the future. but it's the best measure we have at the moment to tell how many people have been infected and have recovered. >> to your point about how we would hope that that's what it means, interesting that you have the w.h.o. reporting yesterday that there's currently no evidence that people who have recovered or had covid antibodies are safe from getting it again. what does that mean? >> so just because they've developed antibodies doesn't mean that they could not catch it again. some viruses work that day. once we get chicken pox, for instance, we don't get it again for the rest of our life. there are some viruses that it wanes over time and you might need to get another vaccine or booster and as you get older, you could have more susceptibility. we don't know where covid is going to lie on that scale. it could be that people that get

the disease are immune or a week, a month, a year or forever or really not at all. we think based on the numbers that we've seen that there's some level of immunity just because otherwise it would be raging through communities over and over again, even inside households. and we haven't seen that so much. but we don't yet know if this is a virus where once you're in k infected, you're good to go. >> there's also questions about these tests and whether or not they are in fact as accurate that we hoped they would be "the new york times" reporting that scientists verifying the accuracy claim that out of 14 on the market only three delivered, quote, consistently reliable results. can we trust these tests? >> it's such a broad question. what we really care about is do real cases show up positive and not negative. we don't want to see what we call false positives where it's telling us that they've been infected when they haven't, or

false negatives where it's telling us that they haven't been infected when they have. these really matter when a disease is really rare in a population because any positive you see is likely to be a false positive. if it is prevalent, meaning a fair number of people have had it, then the tests can become more reliable. but we don't know in what areas people have had it and not had it and we're not really putting the tests under rigorous testing to figure that out. there are so many of them and they're coming so fast it's not clear which are the good ones and which are the sketchy ones. >> doctor carroll, thank you so much for your time. up next, doctors say testing is key to reopening the country, but widespread testing is particularly difficult in america's immigrant communities. i'll talk to a california congresswoman about how they're tackling the problem in their district. and is the white house putting the trump show on pause. reporting suggests the marathon

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increased testing has been considered the most important component to reopening the country and getting the economy back to normal. but when it comes to immigrants, many are avoiding testing and medical care facilities out of fear of being deported. it's something my next guest warned would happen. i would like to welcome california congresswoman nora tore es. you're in a district one in every five of your constituents is an immigrant. how much does it affect community health if they are scared to go to a doctor or hospital to seek care? >> thank you, alicia. it affects our community a great deal. number one, every single person is afraid, deathly afraid of this virus. we all want to be safe. we want to go back to work. but we understand that we may have to pay with our lives. and look, that is not acceptable. when we denied one person, one

resident, a neighbor or a child a test, we are denying health care to our entire population and we are putting all americans at risk. and that is something that i am so happy that finally the administration understood, but it took 42 members of congress to write a letter and it was only after two days after we sent that letter that the administration decided to back off. now, i think it was a little too late, frankly, because the message has already been out there in our communities that they are the scapegoats. it started with undocumented people living in our community and now that this president has moved on to legal residents of the united states, and that is unacceptable. >> and in the wake of all of this, of course some new decisions about immigration coming out of the white house. i want you to listen to some sound from the president on the new ban put in place.

take a listen. >> by pausing immigration, we'll help put unemployed americans first in line for jobs, as america reopens. so important. it would be wrong and unjust for americans laid off by the virus to be replaced with new immigrant labor flown in from abroad. >> what does it tell you that in the midst of a pandemic, a public health crisis, that the president and his administration are choosing to make this a priority? >> it is unfortunate that the president, once again, is choosing racism and politics over the health care of all americans. americans are already first in line for many of the jobs that we have, many of our jobs in public service require american citizenship already. what he is talking about here makes absolutely no sense, because while he works to build

a wall in our southern border, we have hundreds of airports across the u.s., you know, that don't have a border, per se. so we are dependent on many of these immigrants to do the tough jobs that simply americans are not attracted to work in those fields. >> congresswoman, i want to ask you about relief packages more generally. mitch mcconnell has said that any stimulus package will not include funds for state or local governments. what does that mean on the ground and what do negotiations look like moving forward? >> look, it has taken a great deal of negotiating and giving a lot from speaker pelosi in order to negotiate the deals that we have been able to accomplish. senator mitch mcconnell needs to understand and he needs to come to the realization that his state is not the fifth largest

economy in the world. california is. and this is not the hunger games that we're playing here with americans' economy. and his state, you know, if we really want to bring it down to the reality, his state is dependent on california and new york's economy in order to get some relief. so no, mitch mcconnell, we need to help all americans. we need to help all working families in the u.s. that are struggling. and hard-working immigrants should not be left on the sidelines. and american citizens born here in the u.s. should not be left on the sidelines simply because they are married to a legal resident of the united states, someone who may not be an american citizen, but file jointly with their spouse. what are we talking about here? we're talking about american lives and we're talking about

our economy. we're never going to be able to get back to normal if that is a possibility, we have to do it by being realistic and by helping all of our workers and not leaving people behind simply because of their ethnic background or where they come from or how they look. >> congresswoman torres, thank you so much for your time. >> thank you. up next, president trump walking back his comments on dangerous and unproven therapies. he now says he was being sarcastic. but this is what it took to finally raise alarm among his closest advisers. and one person who has no problem taking on the president is the mayor of san juan, puerto rico. we'll talk to her about the latest crisis to hit the island. and people you can rely on. i'm a dell technologies advisor. me too. me too. me too. and if you're a small business, we're with you. we are with you.

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last night's coronavirus task force briefing was the shortest since the pandemic began, clocking in at just over 20 minutes and lacking the kuft engineer question and answer

session. it came one day after the president floated a bizarre and dangerous theory that he has been trying to explain away as a joke ever since. >> i see the disinfectant knocks it out in a minute, one minute, and is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning? because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. so it would be interesting to check that. so you're going to have to use medical doctors, but it sounds interesting to me. >> joining me now, the "washington post" correspondent and an msnbc contributor and host of the buzzfeed podcast. >> these briefings are supposed to provide vital information and updates and they have turned into something that resembles a campaign rally instead. what are the conversations happening inside the white house about the president's appearances at these briefings

and how they can actually get accurate, clear information out to the american people? >> alicia, there are a couple of different kinds of conversations. one is really an effort going back several weeks now to try to get the president not to do so many briefings or not to stay so long. many of his advisers feel that they have become counterproductive. the president resisted that. he likes doing them. he likes the giving take. he definitely misses campaign rallies. i think what we saw yesterday when he did a short presentation and left the room is an indication that, at least some part of that argument, is winning out. the other argument is how effective the rest of the people up there on the podium are,

starting with the vice president and the host of experts and doctors that they bring in. that's where most of the genuine information is conveyed and there is quite a strong feeling definitely within the vice president's job and elsewhere that that part of the presentation is valuable and needs to continue. it's the place that americans are turning to to get information. and the president is hijacking some parts of that and making it a show about him, and there's a sense that some of that might not be working in his favor. >> hays, the cdc, you had the manufacturers of these products coming out and saying this is a terrible, dangerous idea. what does it tell us that this was the breaking point where now all of a sudden you had the president's closest advisers saying perhaps the president is not a value add at these briefings? >> i think it tells us that his advisers are finally coming to

the point that a lot of us did a while ago, because trump -- yeah, you mentioned earlier that he's been seen as a substitute for the campaign rallies and he's been reportedly relishing the chance to stand up and fight against the press. but it is the only time where we have every day the government standing up and saying this is what's happening at the federal level. you can't replace that with the fantastic briefings that are coming out from andrew cuomo in new york, from newsom out in california. so the people who are tuning into this want to have information, they want facts. but having the president up there spit-balling, that was the point where they realized that more people will be worried after watching this as opposed to comforted. and that's something that trump has never been good at, the role of comforter in chief. so i think that they're finally coming back around to the point of we have to reign the president in here. the real question is how long

he'll actually be able to stay away. this crisis isn't going to end any time soon. so the briefings from these officials are going to have to continue. how long will the president be able to see other people on tv when he wants to be there instead? >> ann, this week dr. rick bright, head of the agency developing a coronavirus vaccine, who was pushed out for vetting hydroxychloroquine was remove from his post. he says it was because he spoke out about the drug. another instance of someone speaking out, being pushed aside. in this moment who should americans be looking to for leadership? >> well, clearly the white house, the americans will look to the president and the vice president and the task force surrounding him. i think there's anthony fauci and deborah birx are trusted sources of information. the president has not always

liked that. i think he feels at times that birx and fauci hold him back. and he addressed the question, and dr. birx is the person off camera, and he's saying here's an idea, here's a thing that i think is interesting and it's a ray of hope. he's turning to her and asking what she thinks about it and hoping clearly that she's going to back him up and endorse him. she doesn't and i think you get a real sense there of which one is the doctor. >> hays, nbc's john then allen says that trump has allocated resources and whose role is it to provide oversight? >> you would think it would be

the white house. the president appointed a whole council that is supposed to coordinate the logistics of moving around the equipment throughout the country. we've seen governors and local government saying that instead of helping, they've been hurting the process. they've been hijacking shipments of supplies that have been coming into their states and territories. the federal government has been then reallocating those or letting businesses re-sell those onto the broader market, which honestly, is kind of bonkers considering the fact that the federal government's job is to make sure that competition between the states does not really exist in this way. and it's something that's been breaking down and it's in these sort of situations that we see that. we do need someone at the top. okay, let's make this a level, fair playing field for everyone in the country. and i don't see this administration has getting that done any time soon. >> thank you both for your time.

puerto rico has been through a lot over the past few years with hurricanes, earthquakes and now the coronavirus. there are more than 1,300 cases on the island and upwards of 8 on deaths as of this hour. and with few tests available, the island being run by an interim governor, mayors have had to work together to push for increased testing and a more robust re-johnsponse. mayor carmen cruz is joining me. "the new york times" is reporting testing severely lagging in puerto rico, a testing rate of one-tenth that of new york. what is going on? >> that is correct. puerto rico is the jurisdiction with the least amount of testing, and just as you mentioned, mayors have to take things into their own hands. we established in san juan the first drive-thru testing facility and we are testing at a much rapid rate than the state government is doing.

one is the lack of testing equipment. the other thing is the lack of testing kits. we contracted with a private laboratory in puerto rico and now we're getting results in 24 hours. for the first two weeks, we were getting results in seven to ten days, which was very difficult. so last friday, yesterday in fact, i had a meeting with the secretary of health of puerto rico, because the numbers do not jive. the numbers that we have as mayors do not agree with the numbers that the central government has. another thing is the same theme, it's corruption in the central government. our governor gave an award to a construction company, and yes you heard it right, to a construction company. it was a $30 million award, $19 million were transferred into their account. they were caught and they

returned the money. but that made puerto ricans lag in the number of testing that is possible. >> mayor, the governor has said that the state will remain on lockdown until may 3rd. that is when the island will theoretically reopen. do you think it will be ready in time for may 3rd? >> the governor doesn't even believe her own data because the secretary of health recently a pointed by the governor and the instability, that's not the current governor of puerto rico. we ousted him last period, the summer of 2019. but the current governor of puerto rico, she was his secretary of justice, is still not doing a good job. her current secretary of health mentioned that the new peak for puerto rico would be june. so in san juan we are now taking steps to re-imagine what life is going to look like, especially

in our classrooms. the municipal schools are taking all of their classes online since when this pandemic started in puerto rico. we're going to graduate our classes. but we have to re-imagine things going forward in the month of august. >> mayor, from your perch, are you getting adequate support from the federal government? >> we're getting a lot of money allocated. money is not getting into people's hands because of the current local government of puerto rico and perhaps guidelines that have not been distributed. but the problem is not getting the support that we need. the problem is that the support goes to the higher levels of government and doesn't reach the people it's supposed to reach. no one in puerto rico has the $1,200 from the federal government. we are having problems with the local $500 that the governor

said that was going to be distributed. there's more than 130,000 unemployment requests that have not been filled. the same thing with people getting food stamps. new requests for people getting food stamps. so yesterday in the municipality of san juan, we began distributing food to religious organizations and community leaders, so have a lot of other mayors in puerto rico. you know, when these things happen, it is the ones that are the poorest and the ones that if they don't go to work, they don't get a paycheck, that get most impacted, just like during the earthquakes. these crises tend to push to the top of the agenda what the poverty level is in san juan alone, and six out of every ten children under the age of 18 are under the level of poverty. and that is the same for almost the entire island of puerto rico. so it is a crisis after a

crisis. what we're not getting in puerto rico or in the united states is leadership from a president that finally has gone completely crazy, is completely unhinged and is giving people advice which is more painful and more risk to their lives than the coronavirus. this thing of new york saw 18 people that ingested disinfectants. please do not pay attention to the government's advice in terms of the president's advice. it is not logical. it is not based on data and the president is harmful to your health. >> mayor cruz, thank you for your time. >> thank you. nursing homes are some of the most vulnerable places in the country, but how transparent are they being with families about their loved ones? we'll talk about it next. thousands of women with metastatic breast cancer,

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after more than 11,000 reported deaths at nursing homes across the country, testing at long-term care facilities remains a problem. the associated press reports two-thirds of nursing homes still don't have access to test kits and resources. thousands of families are dealing with the loss of a loved one and they're looking for answers. this woman's father tested positive for coronavirus and died this month and she says his nursing home never informed her about the three prior cases at the facility before he got sick. january joins me now. she's a reporter at "the new

york times." i am both so sorry for your loss and so grateful to you for writing this piece. tell us a little bit about your dad. >> sure. so my dad was a resident at hudson point at riverdale center for nursing and rehabilitation in the bronx. he had lung disease and he was hospitalized on march 25th, and the next day we found that he had tested positive for coronavirus. >> you wrote that there was a lack of transparency. what would you have done if the nursing home had informed you that coronavirus had landed at the facility? >> i would have absolutely tried to save my father and i think a lot of other families would have done the same if we had been notified. among the most troubling things is, once i found out, i contacted the nursing home, i filed a complaint with the state

department of health and, to my surprise, found out that nursing homes were not required to let people know once the virus had entered the facility. that policy was changed after i began asking questions, but it was definitely something that should have been in place early on. >> federal officials announced new coronavirus reporting rules this week for nursing homes. do they go far enough? >> i think it's a step. i also believe that it's kind of late in the game. the virus has been in nursing homes for at least a couple of months now, and a lot of the damage has been done. probably should have been sooner. >> the world health organization says that nursing homes are linked to about half of the coronavirus deaths in europe. here in the united states, what more do you think needs to be done? >> i mean, i think there should be a plan to separate those who

don't have the virus from those who do, in a way to support nurse home staff. a lot of these facilities don't have enough staff, don't have the protective equipment and, you know, i think that's just as necessary as supplying the hospitals. so that should be part of the plan as well. >> january, after what you've been through, what would you say to someone else who has someone they love who lives in one of these facilities about how to be an effective advocate for them? >> stay on top of the nursing home, call constantly, try to get answers if you can get answers, turn to your local officials, whether it's a city council member or the ag's office, the governor's office. make a lot of noise. you have to. it's a matter of life or death. >> thank you so much for your

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remained open throughout breaks of the plague, cholera and the flu. this week's ramadan will be very different with large gatherings banned. imam barjawa joins me now from yale university. thank you so much for your time. tell me a little bit about how this is going to be observed differently in the age of social distancing. >> thank you for having me on today. i think the two biggest sort of differences it's going to be is normally you would find throughout the muslim world and muslim communities that every night you would have the fast breaking meal in which people gathered together with the community, their friends, their neighbors, their coworkers, they invite everyone into the mosque and share the iftar fast breaking meal. that's number one. we're not going to have that any more. mosques across the world are largely closed. secondly, you have special evening prayers in which they're recited over the course of three

days to complete the recitation of the koran. people can tune in on zoom if the imam is reciting by himself to broadcast, but there is no congregational prayer taking place in the mosque. >> when you have spoke within other muslims, how are they perceiving interpreting these changes to observing ramadan? >> there's widespread -- there was widespread anxiety leading up to ramadan, about what would this ramadan look like. now there's a sense of disheartenness and loss that they are just -- you know, and they're grieving in the sense of not being able to worship together, to pray together, to really have that communal experience in ramadan, which is the holiest time of the month for 1.8 billion muslims around the world. so it's just a sense of, you know, patiently persevering to make our way through this and have a unique ramadan. >> how much of a role can technology play in having, as you say, a unique ramadan?

>> i think if there's two benefits, i think if we take the challenge and we pivot is that one is my friends and i and many people in our communities that we've been talking to and beyond are doing zooms and you can zoom in and do it with your family and friend and community. that may even by distant for you to have that sense of a shared meal together in the world that we live in now. and second is that we're not praying together in the mosque with other people, but you can at least watch broadcasts from your mosques or, in fact, you can watch broadcasts around the world. so i think technology is a tool that people are using creatively to stay as connected as possible. >> there are, of course, members of communities that have relied on the meals that the mosques provide, especially during ramadan. what is being done to help those people during this period? >> it's a great question. what we have done in our city of new haven and i know many other cities around the country are experiencing this, as well, is

we're doing drive-through iftars. which is families will donate money and buy meals from local businesses and indicate caterers and distribute them for free. so we have a drive through service at the mosque that will pick up the meals from the restaurant and people will come through almost like a food pantry. they'll pull up, pick up the meal, we'll have ppe on, and they'll go home and share it with their family. >> thank you so much for your time. that wraps it up for this hour. my colleague, joshua johnson picks up our coverage at the top of the hour. he'll speak to the mayor of tybee island, georgia, and why the mayor says he'll defy the governor's orders to open businesses in the state. that's coming up in about an hour right here on msnbc. t an hour right here on msnbc wayfair has way more ways to renovate your home,

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hey there, i'm joshua johnson live at nbc news headquarters in new york. it is go to be with you for another look at coronavirus across america. it can seem like a tale of two americas. one rushing to rekindle the economy and get past the pandemic. the other saying we are not nearly ready for that. we've had more than 50,000

deaths in this country. we're approaching a million confirmed cases. at least 19 states are either revving back up to some extent or considering letting their stay at home orders expire in the coming week. that is what we will focus on with our reporters across america in the hour to come and globally a grim milestone was confirmed just a short time ago. the worldwide death toll is now about 200,000 people. we begin at the white house with the clapback to the president's illegal logical remarks about disinfectants. he made those remarks during a briefing this week. musing about treating coronavirus inside human beings. today could be the first day without a presidential briefing since easter sunday. there might not be another one for some time. white house officials are reportedly urging the president to reel in his public statements. nbc's monica alba is at the white house with more. monica, you have reported that the president's top