the ground, whether or not consumers are eager to get back into those shops. just because the state gives permission for shops to open doesn't mean they will and even if shops are open, if people don't feel safe shopping, they're not showing up. >> reporter: sure. there's been a lot of foot traffic here with folks popping in and picking up to go orders. siepts li it seems like customers are eager to get back out. the key will be safety. a lot of the business owners said in order for customers to feel comfortable to come in, it will come down to the safety measures. they are implementing things like making workers wear face shields and turning a lot of their shops into touchless places. i visited a salon that will be almost entirely touchless where customers will not have to touch anything. there will be plastic barriers

to separate them from their hair stylist or technician. those are a few of the things that folks are thinking about and preparing for a potential reopening. >> i'm very interested to see how a touchless hair salon works. please go check that out. i'm dying of curiousty. thank you very much. now, reopening businesses have obviously not meant just flinging the door open. right now we're kind of cracking it open and peeking around the corner to see if it's safe. four states consider it safe enough. georgia will expand that process tomorrow by letting dine in restaurants and movie theaters open their doors. how many are ready or willing to open those doors wide? this phase of the plan has gotten some pretty wide criticism. georgia has more than 23,000 cases and more than 900 deaths.

sam brock joins us live from atlanta. what are you hear about this next phase of reopening? >> reporter: you would be hard pressed to find any movie theet thaers will be opening tomorrow. trust me, we tried. i'm at the plaza theater. it's historic and been here for more than half a century. they are opening their doors on friday but only for private screenings for first responders and their families. ten people or fewer. that's it. i talked to the owner. he said with georgia testing at less than 1% of the state's population, he doesn't feel comfortable enough doing that. i'll show you what they are doing. they want to make sure those on the front lines be that at soup markets or hospitals have some sort of reward or reminder of going to the movies. every first responders will be getting four passes to get into

the plaza, popcorn. you have to envision the popcorn. coca-cola. you got some m&m's, gummy bear and full movie experience. a couple hundred generating donations. you have theaters that hold 480 people. inside there will be ten or fewer people getting that full immersive experience until they can reopen that again. when that will be, the owner says he doesn't know. it has to be clear there's a vaccine or widespread testing. i asked how employees are handing l thhand ihan handling this and what his employees feel. >> i'm not going to open for regular customers or regular business. that's not easy because we're suffer. with have never been closed for a few days since before world war ii. i have to imagine that. i have ten employees relying on me and this theater for their

livelihood. i'm going to to try to make them choose between their livelihood and their lives. >> reporter: what they are trying to do is have a drooiive through option. if you were to g on the other side, there's a big parking lot that will be holding up to 50 cars to get what they call a commu communal experience. the vast majority of theaters, it's not clear when they will be opening. we know that amc gave a statement they are not planning on opening again until july. that's a theater chain with a major foot print. that means none of those theaters will be opening any time soon. sfwr o sfwr. >> one of the largest theaters or the largest.

you have glass bottle offense coke, drive ins might be coming back. talk about everything old being new again. >> reporter: it's the right way. >> even with this, i wonder how much the city is willing to embrace this because atlanta's mayor has been pretty upset with the governor over the plans to begin reopening and cases are still going up in the metro atlanta area, i believe, right? >> reporter: that's 100% correct. we have between 500 and 900 covid-19 cases every day in georgia for the last four or five. the projection until it won't be until next week that the state may peak. at the same time we have businesses reopening. that's the battle that's being fought and waged in georgia. you mentioned mayor bottoms. she's been advising people to stay at home and continue

following those orders. that's directly in contrast with what the governor suggested people do. you see this mishmash of opinions. that's what regular people have to try to figure out. who do i listen to in all this. i have data, mixed messages coming from different officials and an unprecedented pandemic. a very difficult position to be on. >> it will be interesting to see how movie theaters like the one you're at deal with this like a chain from regal or amc. same economic challenges but very different economic circumstances. thank you, sam. that's sam brock for us. >> reporter: in addition to georgia and texas we can hear about plans in ohio. the governor says his announcement will align with the guidelines. ohio has more than 15,000 confirmed cases and just over 700 deaths.

joining us now is mayor of columbus, ohio. welcome to the program. >> thanks, joshua for having me. >> you have a lot of folks who have lost jobs. who feel are battling food insecurity and issues about where they will be able to lay their head at night. a number of folks presented to our homeless system has increased. people are struggling here. the resilience of columbus has been on display in many different ways as well. >> you have laid out five critical needs that you say need to be met in ohio before the state should reopen. let's put them on the screen. statewide requirement that masks be worn outside of homes.

more testing capacity for local health care providers. more swabs and test kits. clear guidance on mass gather g gatherings for the next three to six months. of those criteria, where is ohio the furthest along and where is it the furthest behind? >> we share these things every day about this work. we made some dramatic progress over the last week or so. we have gone from 3700 to get to 10,000 to 20,000 test a day. we're continuing to push for

flexibility. it's going dock be a slow, gradual transitioning and reopening. in many different places that may be able to reopen. face coverings and masks will be required to protect customers and the workers. we think there's good progress being made there. we have gotten clear guidance from the governor around mass gatt eer iherin gatherings, nothing will change. we have a come prehence i hcomp how cases in our long term care facilities will happen. >> i booked a hotel reservation in columbus next year for the arnold classic. hotel rooms were super easy to come by which is not typical. are you optimistic and i don't mean to ask this purely

selfishly. are you optimistically that i'll be able to come visit columbus next year and do the expo in the crowd with people as it normally is or should we just plan for columbus to feel really different next year? >> i think we're going to have to continue to make dramatic progress with respect to ramping up testing and contact tracing and all the other work that we have talked about here today. until we have the vaccine, we'll have to continue to take precautions. when you wear face coverings and masks, you can reduce your transmission by 70%. we continue to have to use common sense until we have the vaccine in place and testing on demand and that contact tracing that's so very, very important. we can make great progress working together. i think ohio could be a good

example for washington. republican mayor working with democratic -- republican governor working with democrat mayors of big cities together. we don't believe opening the economy and public health and safety is an either or. we can do both but we have to do it thoughtfully, gradually, guided by public health experts and science. >> mr. mayor, i look forward to hopefully being there next year. i appreciate your being here now. thanks very much. >> look forward to having you. nursing homes across america are still struggling to report accurate information on coronavirus cases and contain the infections within their facilities. last week federal officials required nursing homes to report covid-19 cases to families and officials. pennsylvania has one of the nation's oldest populations. nursing home residents there amount for more than 6800 of the

state's cases or count for more than 6800. the overall load is 41,000 with more than 1600 deaths. how well are pennsylvania nursing homes add hering to the new rules? >> reporter: the nursing homes make up about 60% of deaths when it comes to covid-19. that's compared to about 20% nationwide. the state health department is reporting these numbers by county, not by specific nursing home facilities which is what the newlatio regulations call f. there's a lot of disparity. only 36 states are reporting any data at all. some comes daily and some specific like we're seeing in pennsylvania.

they're still having trouble keeping workers and patients safe. i spoke to one worker. >> i'm like, battling with my employer to make sure we all have the things that we need. we have the deaths. i'm working four and five double shifts in a row to help out the facility. they just were not proactive in the beginning. we have a smoke room in the building for residents who can't go outside. they still let people go into the smoke room. this is clearly not the right thing to do. i don't understand it. >> reporter: she rolled through

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in arizona the governor's stay at home order remains in place. the number of coronavirus cases there is well above 6,000 and small businesses in arizona are feeling the weight of the shutdown. tomorrow, the paycheck protection program will start taking applications again. many small businesses are waiting to get the first payment. are any businesses flouting the order and serving customers any way? >> reporter: there's not flouting of the orders here. most of these small businesses

they are just concerned is the wider public of the health and safety of in the only their workers but customers. that's why the paycheck protection program signed by congress and signed into law by this president was supposed to help the bids stay afloat while keeping the doors shut. there was 349 billion dollars put through the first round of funding. this last friday was additional 320 billion dollar that will be up for grabs starting tomorrow. the issue though was from the first round of funding, just a fraction of it went to the small businesses, truly small businesses like the coffee shop, the pizza parlors and this bookstore here in phoenix. i want to introduce the owner, cindy dash, this bookstore has been around since 1974. will you give me a sense of what your company has gone through over the last month. >> on march 16th we closed our doors to the public.

we realize ld as a community gathering place we're a liability and we wanted the community to be safe. we started pivoting our business to be online and curb side. the sales weren't enough. we believed in the payroll protection program. we did not get the funding. we had to start pllaying people off. we could hire our employees back and pivot our business at the same time. waen we want to be here. we're a community business. >> cindy is one of those small business owners here. 60 employees. they did not receive that funding through that first round of ppp payments. they are hoping and waiting they get the funding in the second round whether it's several large cooperations. nearly 100 publicly traded companies that did sever the funding. thousands and thousands of businesses like cindy's did not. >> could i put a question to her

to? >> reporter: yeah. >> ask her how long she thinks she can hold on if no federal help comes along? i hope it does. >> reporter: joshua just asked, how long do you think you could old on if you were not to get this second round of funding? >> if i couldn't hold on fi didn't get funding, we would have to reduce payroll some more. we're still going to figure it out. we've been -- our rent payments have been deferred but not forgiven. all of these pieces of the puzzle we haven't worked together. we would have to do another round of layoffs. >> you already dipped into savings s savings? >> yes. for the past five weeks. >> reporter: we're talking about 60 folks. these people are more than workers, employees. these are family, friends. these are people whose lively hoods are tied to the business but also binterconnected.

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in just a moment we'll answer more of your questions about a coronavirus pandemic. here are the facts at this hour. for the second day in the row the white house schedule does

not include a white house coronavirus task force briefing. the last day without a briefing was easter sunday. yesterday, president trump tweeted that it's the media's fault he's not holding briefings. he wrote they were quote, not worth the time and effort. those attacks continue today. many people called out the president for thinking aloud in thursday's briefing about injecting disintectant into humans with the virus. today the coronavirus response coordinator dr. debra birx responded with chuck todd on "meet the press." >> you said he was digesting information at the time when that came out of his mouth. do you have anymore information and are you concerned that people might take bleach because of what the president said? >> i think i made it clear in how i interpreted that. i made it clear dr. fauci and

every one associated, this is not a treatment. >> meanwhile the world health organization now says there's no evidence that surviving coronavirus makes you immune. it remains unclear if this year's antibodies will protect you from future strains of the virus. as states begin to slowly reopen, the nba will start letting teams reopen their practice facilities in areas with relaxed restrictions. group work outs are still prohibited. if many colleagues ages and universities there's a lot of uncertainty. purd purdue is considering reopening for in person classes in fall. the virus poses almost zero threat to young people. in spain, children were allowed to lever theave their homes for first time since the lockdown began, more than six weeks ago. let's get more what's going

on with the president and these briefings. monica, i figure the briefings will resume at some point but perhaps in a different way. >> reporter: that's the indication. the strategy is being reevaluated and reconsidered but if this weekend is any insight into how that may proceed, they have been scaled back. notably on other weekends during this crisis when it wasn't a holiday. the president was regularly briefing on saturday and sundays. that hasn't been this case. on friday it was the shortest coronavirus task force briefing to date and the president and vice president didn't take any questions there either. as we take a look at the bigger picture, there's been about 50 total briefings so far since late february of those, the president has participated in 43 and he's spent hours and hours behind the podium. it's very rare that we haven't had one of these especially on a day where the task force could meet and provide updates. that hasn't been the case today.

it pyappears the president is holding his own mini briefing, most lly airing grievances. he took to twitter feiring off six pete twooets at the media. he argues he's working late into the morning and late in the day. he took issues with what he calls reporters who received noble prizes for their work on russia. i believe he is referring to pulitzer prizes but not nobel. if this is any indication of what he might be thinking, the briefings are an opportunity to come before the american people and the press on a daily basis. there's an opportunity, to overshadow it.

think about how these might be best going forward, the decision ultimately rests with the president. they have convinced him to scale back in term of this week. >> thank you. let's get to come of your questions starting with your medical and policy concerns. remember our knowledge is evolving and what you hear today might conflict be what you have heard before. regardless of what we say, nothing we say should substitute for the guidance of your doctor or your financial adviser. with that said, let's bring back our panel, dr. natalie azer. it's great to see you both. i think we should start with one of those details from that briefing on thursday.

tracy asks, there was a man part of dhs talking about the briefing about bilogic findings of heat, humidity and sunlight effects on the coronavirus. could nursing homes affect their coronavirus numbers by installing more sun porching, sunlights, replacing solid roofing with skylight panels in roo rooms, halls and other areas? >> there's no evidence to support that. there's a lot of hot climates and sunshine that are getting surges of covid-19 which include norther new orleans, florida, puerto rico and so on. information that was touted by the president and the representatives from dhs were not really anything like scientific evidence and that people for the moment should be completely ignoring advice like that. >> i think -- i listened to the

briefing on thursday. the point that the dhs verj official was trying to make, i think, was about the half-life of coronavirus on non-porous surfaces. in direct sunlight it doesn't live as long. the half-life goes from hours to minutes. that doesn't mean the virus can't move through the air, from person to person, from hugging, shaking hand, et cetera. >> right. how to interpret all that is a challenge. we don't really know. the go to wholesale installation of uv lights and every kind of facility you can imagine or suggesting that you sit out in the sunlight you'll be okay, that is not a connected thought from the original premise and studies that have to do with how long the virus survives. it's a lot more scientific work that needs to be done to make sure that we're whatever we will

do is based on evidence, not on surface studies of the virus behavior. >> let's get to a question from sally. sweden is doing almost nothing in response to covid-19 taking what dr. facui calls the lets her rip approach. if, as they intend, this results in herd immunitimmunity, will i eliminate a second wave for sweden. she's can go about the possibility of it's similar to what the mayor of las vegas said, you let people have exposure, they develop their own immunity and it makes it harder for the virus to pro lif ralife the future? >> with some exception, to achieve herd immunity, roughly 80 to 95% will need to be immune. that immunity is obtained through infection and that person becomes immune or through

vaccination. the issue here is this, if we assume that you could get to that number, that percentage of the swedish population could become infected. while 80% of those folks may experience a mild to moderate illness, 15% will need to be hospitalized and 5% of those individuals will be critical and depending on their case fatality rate, a significant number of them will also, sadly, die. according to most expert, yes you can achieve herd immunitimm. usually the safest route is through vaccination but natural infection does confer some immunity. that also presumes that having infection once with sars cov-2 makes you immune.

lo lots of moving parts. i wouldn't say most countries hope to establish immunity by allowing their country to get infected. >> i'm not sure i want to be the guinea pig. that was the whole argument in las vegas. i think it was with anderson cooper about allowing las vegas to reopen. i don't know if i want to be a part of that even if i have to be sick for two week like on death's door to make other people immune. >> exactly. how much of your population is older and have risk factor. we're not going to send our healthy young people in to get infected. it doesn't work that way. >> one more question and we'll have your both back later for our rapid fire round. lisa asks, does anyone know of any special advice put out by a

reputable source for people with multiple vulnerability factorings -- factors. i'm thinking of things beyond the standards hygiene and distancing. what would you say to lisa? >> sure. i would say that all of us, myself included, are opening this will be ancillary thing, treatment, nutritional supplements and so on that would be helpful in preventing disease or preventing very serious disease. there's no scientific evidence. we're just shooting in the dark by the things we're desperate to have answers and solutions like she's mentioning. the chance of us being able to establish anything like any of them being valid and appropriate are very, very slim.

maybe but right now we have no evidence to suggest that any of that will work. >> i imagine that the best thing you can do is stay as healthy as possible. if there's one thing i noticed around manhattan and i don't know if this is typical, i've noticed more people smoking in public. i've noticed more people with cigarettes. it makes no sense when there's a pulmonary virus that's trying to kill people. i think general health make sense and please don't start smoking. >> absolutely. if you want to try to boost your immune system, you still go back to the a, b, cs. i do want to point out, i think it's important to reemphasize, the virus has to get into your body. it does through the mouth, nose, eyes. we'll go back to basics and say hand hygiene will still be number one.

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some states are beginning phased reopening. others remain at stand still with business owners and employees depending on government relief. the paycheck protection program ran through its first round of funding in almost two weeks. that's $349 billion. more funding is coming. nearly $500 billion worth. there's still some frustration over a lack of funds for stats a state and local governments as well as rent relief and food aid. house speaker nancy pelosi is calling for patience. steve mnuchin is offering optimism. >> one thing we have to do is curate, prioritize what we must have. we have to have the public with us on this, and i've said this on many number of occasions, you have to be ready to walk. you have to just say, i'm ready to walk. >> i think as we begin to reopen the economy in may and june, you'll see the economy really

bounce back in july, august, september. >> what does all of this mean for you? we answer more of your financial questions. good to have you back. let's dive right back in with a question from susan. susan asks, i am on social security and receive my payments through direct deposit on the second wednesday of the month. this month was april 8th. the money did not start going out until around the 15th. i'm still waiting. i'm unable to check on the irs website as it does not update information on the website for those of us on social security. i also did my taxes last year. i have not filed yet this year. how can i check to see if it is on the way or if there is some glitch? >> that's an absolutely great question from susan. the first batch of stimulus checks went to people who filed their 2018 and 2019 tax returns

and got a refund. the irs has the information and could deposit directly into their accounts. for people who owe the irs money or on some kind of payment installment plan then they need to go to this get my payment tool on the irs website, put in their banking information. that way they will get the money desperation deposited. . people receiving social security benefits. the government has your information but the administration is separate from the treasury department which includes the irs. that's probably why you're seeing a delay in receiving that stimulus check. you are definitely qualified. what the irs has been doing is sending out millions of checks and they plan to continue to do so and send about five million for week. >> you just mentioned it. say it one more time. >> the get my payment tool on the irs website. click that.

you can put in your bank account information to get it deposited directly into your bank account and have the information for the irs to send your check. >> this viewer asks, we have been biting the bullet. paying high prices for diapers to air fares to plastic cup, to bread, you get the idea. because of high fuel price, are we going the see the prices of goods go down as the fuel doesn't cost as much? i'm guessing this is a double edged sword where it's nice to have prices drop but a drop in the price of goods is part of the criteria for a depression. >> yes, absolutely. this week was historic in the sense that we saw the price of crude oil enter negative territory. that doesn't mean that when you go to the gas station to fill up, you'll get free gas. there's a couple of different reasons for that. the price of crude oil accounts for a portion of the total final

price of gasoline but there are other factors, other costs involved such as refinement, storage and transportation of it to filling stations. for consumers, when you go to gas station, if you don't see the price being as low as you might think it would be is because the gas station while they are getting the oil for a much lower price, they are not necessarily transferring those cost savings, entirely, to you. w all those package goods whether it's cereal or milk, you're seeing the cost of those goods isn't coming down as much as you would like because the companies aren't necessarily transferring the cost savings they getting onto the consumer. >> last quick question, one of our viewers asked about resolving an incorrect stimulus check. how do you do that? >> if the information is incorrect, you're supposed to,

once the irs sends you the check, within 15 days they send you a form that states the amount of your stimulus check and also what to do information on if there are discrepancies if it's the wrong amount. that's how you let the irs know that it's the wrong information. they discourage calls right now because they are dealing with the coronavirus pandemic and have limited services and they are dealing with people filing their tax returns, issuing refunds and also sending out those checks. >> much appreciate it. thanks very much. before we go, should we just all assume we're going to get coronavirus sooner or later? rapid fire round is next. later? rapid fire round is next copd makes it hard to breathe

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can uv lamps provide any treatment for infekcted individuals? i heard there's a study. it doesn't sound like an entirely crazy idea. >> it may not have an affect of the virus. it probably does an the surface. there's a lot of safety issues. we're far from recommending uv light or any other light as a treatment for covid. >> absence an effective vaccine, won't most of us get the virus? >> if we did nothing to contain or mitigate then yes, most of us would. we talked about the transmission factor. any one person affected infects more than one other person that the entire population get infected. with containment, that's identified, contact trace. we won't see that. >> always good talking to you both. thanks very much. thank you for making time for us

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president trump on the defensive and his fall out on ingesting disinfectanc. he said when he was directing to lab assistant. the official white house transcript tells a different story. >> when the person in the most powerful position on the planet, people listen. we have seen an increase in people calling poison control. >> i'd like to bring in robert costa. he's a washington post national political reporter and nbc news political analyst. all right, robert, i want to start with you. you had the president engaging in a tweet storm against the media over these communities. then you have the official white house transcript telling a different story. here's what dr.