lives in new york. with that, that is our broadcast for this monday night as we start a new week. on behalf of all of my colleagues at the networks of nbc news, good night from our temporary field headquarters. good morning, everybody. it is tuesday, april 28th. we have a lot to cover this morning beginning with new reporting from "the washington post." current and former u.s. officials telling the paper that intelligence agencies prepared warnings about the coronavirus in more than a dozen of the president's classified briefings back in january and in february when he was still down playing the threat. sources telling the paper that for weeks the president's daily brief traced the spread of the virus around the world, warning that china was suppressing information and warned about the

political and economic consequences. an official responsible for the president's daily brief telling the post this, the detail of this is not true, but declined to elaborate on that. a quick reminder of what the president was saying about the virus around this time. on jarchb 22nuary 22nd, he told he's not worried at all, quote, we have everything under control. it's going to be just fine. two days later talking about the efforts to contain the virus, the president tweeted it will all work out well. on february 19th, he told a phoenix news station, i think it's going to get progressively better as we go along. a date later, he claimed the virus would, quote, disappeared like a miracle.

as the post points out, the intel warnings apparently failed to register with the president. he takes an oral summary of the daily press briefing two or three times a week. and even shows little patience for that. past presidents have received documents intended to be read. with pressure mounting, the white house has unveiled a new blueprint meant to help states expand coronavirus testing. leaders have been pushing the federal government to release a robust testing plan as governors begin lifting stay at home orders. but the new blueprint largely leaves it up to the states to develop their own plans and rapid response programs. according to the post, a white house document said the federal role would include strategic direction and technical assistance. the federal government was described as the supplier of last resort. president trump outlined the effort during a news conference in the rose garden yesterday

evening. >> we want to get our country open and testing is not going to be a problem at all. in fact, it's going to be one of the great assets that we have. today we're releasing additional guidance on testing to inform the states as they develop their plans for a phased and very safe reopening. our blueprint describes how states should unlock their full capacity, expand the number of testing platforms, establish monitoring systems to detect local outbreaks and conduct contact tracing. we have it all. >> so according to the covid tracking project, the united states has conducted about 5.59 million coronavirus tests. that number is equivalent to less than 2% of the total u.s. population. and administration officials telling the times that the federal government aimed to give states the ability to test at least 2% of their populations

per month. the president did not use that figure in his press conference yesterday. vice president mike pence was confronted yesterday after promising that number of tests would be available by mid march. he argued the discrepancy was the ability to process testing. mr. vice president, back in early march, you said we would be at 4 million tests in the following week. we just now got there in the last following days. what have you learned what went wrong over the last month and a half or two months and what lessons have you learned from the mistakes over the last month or so? >> jan, i appreciate the question, but it represents a misunderstanding on your part and frankly, a lot of people in

the public's part about the difference between having a test versus the ability to actually process the test. >> when you said 4 million tests seven weeks ago, you were talking about tests being sent out, not actually being completed? i'm a little confused. >> john, i think precisely correct, that in my first week on this job, we were informed that hhs -- i believe idt was the vendor -- that had distributed a million, was distributing another four million. and we believe they did. but, again, those were tests that frankly, but for the president's leadership, we would still be waiting on those tests to be done in many cases. >> we should have had and been able to process those 4 million tests at that time and that is what they promised and they did not deliver on that promise. also, president trump is reportedly putting pressure on governors to reopen schools before the end of the academic

year. according to audio obtained by the "new york times," trump made the suggestion on a conference call with state leaders yesterday saying this, quote, some of you might start to think about school openings. the young children have done very well in this disaster that we've all gone through. trump went on to look for the vice president's assurance who was on the call adding this, i think it's something they could seriously consider and maybe get going on it. no governor chimed in to agree or disagree amid a conversation geared towards testing and respirator use. later, trump reiterated his stance during the task force briefing. >> i think you'll see a lot of schools open up, even if it's for a very short period of time. i think it would be a good thing. because as you see in terms of what this vicious virus goes after, young people seem to do very well. young people seem to do very well. so i know that there are some governors that aren't necessarily ready to open up their states, but they may be ready to open up their school

systems. >> meanwhile, many schools across the country have already agreed not to reopen their schools through the end of the school year. joining me now, world editor axios. dave, good morning to you and great to see you. president presidents unveiling this new blueprint, right, this new strategy to increase testing capacity across the country. how is this going to impact states already struggling to acquire tests? >> yes. so trump's blueprint basically puts a framework around the existing system, which is that the federal government is a back stop, but this is really up to states to object stain and process the number of tests that they are going to need to to feel comfortable opening back up. some governors have said their testing capacity will have to double because they don't have that ability to get that number

of tests run. so they need help from the federal government to make up that gap. trump has said that's not the federal government's responsibility, it will have to fall to the states. >> so amid all this, we've looked ahead to some european countries who are about two weeks ahead of us, like italy, for example, we are watching them and seeing what exactly was happening. now we're on the other end of this thing as we're begin to go reopen some states, easing some guidelines, also watching some of those european countries like italy and sxan do the same. how are we comparing the u.s.'s response, comparing to some of those other countries beginning the process of reopening, especially when you talk about how the president is not necessarily a proponent of a top

down leadership when it comes to reopening some of these states? >> right. so the size and structure of the u.s. government makes it a fairley different animal, but this conversation about testing capacity is happening all across europe, as well. there are some countries like germany that have had a more effective plan in place from the beginning, but there are others like the uk where there's lots of questions being asked of the government of whether they have enough tests to really start to open the government or to open the economy back up. what's been interesting is, you know, president trump mentioned he would like to see schools reopen. most european countries that are opening back up have not opened schools yet, but denmark has, for example. i think states are going to be looking over at europe and seeing, you know, these states that are maybe two, three weeks ahead of us, when they open these things back up, did they see new cases, did they see the kind of outcomes that we're worried about.

>> dave, stay close. i'm going to talk to you again in just a little bit. still ahead, a new legal battle over stimulus checks. the trump administration is facing a lawsuit for blocking relief money to u.s. citizens married to undocumented immigrants. plus, new york canceled its democratic presidential prime minister. this as new polling is showing growing support for mail-in ballots. we're going to dig into those new numbers and, of course, get a check on your weather with bill karins when we come back. wh bill karins when we come back.

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welcome back, everybody. the trump administration is being sued by an illinois man for denying stimulus checks to citizens with immigrant spouses who do not have a social security number. the lawsuit is alleging the trump administration added a

provision to the c.a.r.e.s. act that discriminates against citizens based solely on who they married. americans married to immigrants are ineligible for the $1200 payment and the additional monies for minor children unless both spouses on a joint tax return have social security numbers. but the illinois man is claiming his wife does pay taxes using a taxpayer identification number issued by the internal revenue service. the plaintiff sued senate majority leader mitch mcconnell and steve mnuchin along with president trump in a federal filing in chicago. the provision in question does not apply if either member of the couple is in the military. let's get into this. joining me now, danny cevallos. this is astounding to me. how can a taxpaying citizen, as this husband contends of his wife who qualifies financially

be denied a stimulus check, especially when the spouse pays taxes, as well? >> sth a vethis is a very cleve crafted lawsuit. notice the plaintiff is just the space and now the immigrant spouse. while it's true individual states cannot discriminate against people based on their alienage, when congress does it, it's presumptively legal based on congress's power to regulation immigration. so that is why you see just the sid citizen citizen as a plaintiff. that's why also the citizen plaintiff aledges that this inflings on a different right, his you constitutional right to marry. however, not every federal law that affects a citizen's right to marry is going to be struck down. a classic example is that a citizen can marry anyone that

citizen wants from another country. that doesn't entitle them to get that spouse a visa to come here or to live here permanently. so not every law that affects a citizen's right to marry is necessarily unconstitutional. there is a very strongly worded complaint in that it gives it the best chance to survive, but the federal government here, congress specifically, has a number of defenses, mostly based on the -- its tremendous power to regulation immigration even when it has the negative effect on an american citizen. >> aside from the fact that it just seems plain cruel, danny, who is in favor? which -- which party is this in favor of, this case? >> when you see the complaint,

it does name the president, obviously, and republican member of the senate, mitch mcconnell. but that's because he introduced the bill and he and his cosponsors named the bill. but on the other hand, it is crafted to bring in both the executive branch through the president and congress through the senate leader mitch mcconnell. so that is how you bring in two branches of the government and then the complaint is asking the court to enter an injunction preventing the government as a whole from enforcing this law which it alleges is unconstitutional, both discriminating against alienage and discriminating against the fundamental right to marry. >> danny, thank you, as always. still ahead, ear going to get a live report from one of the countries hit hardest by the coronavirus outbreak. in spain, children are now allowed to play outside for the first time in six weeks. we're going to go live to madrid, coming up next. o live t madrid, coming up next

welcome back, everybody. spain has put in place one of the strictest lockdowns in all of europe and on sunday, children were allowed to leave their homes for the first time in nearly six weeks. the country's prime minister said that by next week, adults would be allowed to exercise outside. the head of spain's center for health emergencies said there was a clear descending trend in the number of new coronavirus cases and that the government's decision to allow some nonessential workers return to work about two weeks ago has not had any negative impact so far. so that is some good news. joining me now from madrid, spain, willem marks. good morning to you. great to see you on this. what has the spanish government said so far about how it plans to reopen the country in the coming weeks? >> so you mentioned there, they've already opened some nonessential businesses. they've allowed kids out for one

hour a day so long as they stay within one kilometer of their home and next weekend, adults will be allowed out to exercise. what the government has been doing over the last couple of days is reaching out to the regional authorities across spain because there's been major disparities where they've had huge number of cases and rural parts of the country. reaching out to these authorities to see what they would see suggest in the process going forward and the cabinet of the country is meeting today. we will get more details about whether this will be a regional patchwork of numbers, some demographics will be allowed out of the house while others stay indoors. >> so we know here there are obviously issues with testing as states across the country begin to reopen. has the government there announced additional testing or tracing as it looks to restart the economy? >> well, they've had the same challenge here, yasmin, as in

many other countries. they've just not had the testing available through this crisis. estimating 90% of infections are going unrecorded. so what they've announced, and they've just started it yesterday, is a nationwide study to check for antibodies. this is going to involve 30,000 households, 62,000 individuals. they're going to be looking at whether people over an eight-week period have been exposed to the virus. we had a chance to catch up with one of the individuals from the spanish ministry of health and we asked him about what this study would entail and whether they have concerned that the virus would return. >> at the moment, we have not eliminated the circulation of the virus. we are uncertain about the antibodies that the spanish population have. that's why we're done an epidemiology study nationwide. but, yeah, we think that in a few months, this virus can come

back. >> so, of course, scientists here are as concerned as they are in other countries about this virus returning. that's why here in spain, they are ramping up their icu capacity hoping to have twice as many intensive care beds available in the future as they had at the beginning of this. >> yeah. and we will be watching spain as they begin to reopen there. will hem marks, thanks, my friend. tracking that curve, bill, as we are i think confidently now on the other side of it. >> yeah. yesterday was the best month we've had in a long time. yesterday, as far as the fatalities went, that was the lowest number we've had in april and yesterday it was the fifth lowest total we've had. now we're approaching 57,000. as far as we went, state by state, we did hit some milestones yesterday. new jersey had over 6,000 cases. michigan about 3,400.

massachusetts went over 3,000. but look at indiana. out of all the states, you wouldn't expect they would have the second most states yesterday. on the weather front, what you need to worry about today, severe weather outbreak, oklahoma, texas, areas from arkansas to louisiana and this little area of red, if we're going to get tornados today, it will be the spot between tulsa, mcallister, ft. smith down to tyler, texas. even in dallas and little rock, could see some strong storms today. yasmin, for the northeast, finally clearing out. there will be sunshine as we go throughout the day today. it was an ugly sunday and monday wasn't any fun, either. >> all right. thank you, bill. still ahead, everybody. the cdc adds six new symptoms to the list that could be indicators of the coronavirus. we're going to go over some of those new additions, plus the president weighs in on his handling of the coronavirus outbreak. and is asked if he deserve toes

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georgia, alaska, texas and south carolina. yesterday states from mississippi to tennessee to colorado began to allow some businesses to get back to work. in texas, republican governor greg abbott said he will allow a stay at home order now in place to expire on thursday. and on friday, retail stores, restaurants, malls, movie theaters and libraries will be allowed to open at 25% capacity. in iowa, over 75% of capacity will be allowed to open, but at limited capacity there, as well. this weekend, north dakota is set to reopen its economy if there is continuing progress when it comes to testing results. in wisconsin, dog groomers, repair shops and other shops that can offer contactless service can reopen. and outdoor recreation such as

boats, golf carts and kayaks can open up on business, as well. in ohio, republican governor mike dewine announced a gradual two-week rollout to reopen the state. starting friday, nonessential surgeries and other procedures that don't require an overnight hospital stay can begin next monday. manufacturing, distribution, and construction companies can begin operations, as well. retailers there can expect to reopen by mid-may with protective guidelines in place. meanwhile, leaders in states hit harder by this pandemic, they're reopening their economies more slowly. in new york, for instance, the epicenter of the outbreak, governor cuomo is likely to extend that state's stay-at-home orders in most areas through the end of may. new york officials have canceled the state's democratic presidential primary amid the coronavirus outbreak. it was supposed to be held on june 23rd. according to the "wall street

journal," democratic commissioners of the state board of elections, they approved a resolution that removed 10 candidates from the primary ballot who publicly stated they were suspending their campaigns, including senator bernie sanders who said sunday they would like the campaign to move forward. a senior adviser to the sanders camp said new york had violated the delegate selection plan.it submitted to the dnc and should lose all 274 of the delegates it was allotted to the convention. and more americans are supporting mail-in and online voting as concerns about voter safety at polling places grow due to the coronavirus pandemic. in the latest ap norc poll, over

half of americans say they favor absentee voting without requiring an excuse. 40% said they support voting online. and 39% said they favor a mail-in only voting. the poll surveyed how americans feel about using different types of voting methods to cast their ballot in november. 58% of republicans and 38% of democrats approve of allowing people to cast their vote in person. no excuse absentee voting has the support of 46% of republicans and 73% of democrats. approval for allowing only mail-in voting stands at 37% of gop voters and 60% of democrats. and letting people vote entirely online is approved by 33% of republicans and 50% of democrats. also, president trump was asked yesterday if an american president loses more americans over the course of six weeks

than died in the entirety of the vietnam war, does he deserve to be re-elected? watch this. >> we've lost a lot of people, but if you look at what original projections were, 2.2 million, we're probably heading to 60,000, 70,000, it's far too many. one person is too many for this. and i think we've made a lot of really good decisions. the big decision was closing the border or doing the ban. people coming in from china, obviously, other than american sidss, which had to come in. can't say you can't come back to your country. i think we've made a lot of good decisions. i think that mike pence and the task force have done a fantastic job. i think that everybody working on the ventilators, you see what we've done there, have done unbelievable. the press doesn't talk about ventilators any more. they just don't want to talk about them. and that's okay. but the reason they don't want to talk database that was a sun subject that nobody would get

off of. we're in the same position on testing. we are lapping the world on testing. and the world is coming to us saying what are you doing, how do you do it? we're helping them. so, no, i think we've done a great job. and one person -- i will say this. one person is too many. >> so not necessarily directly answering the question, but i think we can get how he thinks. joining me once again, dave lawler. dave, good to see you again. let's talk about re-election chances here when it comes to the president. there is a growing concern among republicans and in the president 5e7s president's orbit that this could impact his election chances. >> prepandemic, the polling suggested trump would be starting a few points behind, but the argument sort of was once he has an opponent, the

attacks were flying and it will be a very different race. instead, we're seeing joe biden out of the public eye at the moment and trump is losing a fight against himself over the coronavirus response. so you are starting to hear more concern from allies, obviously, a lot of people still down play the polls. they say the polls were wrong last time. but certainly people are more nervous than perhaps they were a month, two months ago about how this is looking for president trump. but, again, there's a long way until november. >> let's talk about some of the polling that iowa is ticking through earlier. we've got this polling showing more americans now support mail-in and online voting due to concerns about the coronavirus. how is this likely to impact the november election, especially if at that point we are in a phase two of this pandemic? >> yes. so those partisan breakdowns you went through were really kind of

astounding. a majority of democrats would support an election that happens only three mail-in voting, whereas a majority of republicans would support an election that happens only with in-person voting even if the pandemic is still ongoing in november. so given that this is down to states to decide how to proceed, i think that might dictate the response to a large degree. republican controlled states may opt more toward the in-person voting with maybe some of the same absentee roles that we had even before the pandemic, whereas a lot of controlled states are very open to the idea of mail-in elections. >> well, we saw what happened with in-person voting in wisconsin most recently when multiple people were elected with covid. dave lawler, thank you, as always. still ahead, president trump says he can't imagine why some states are reporting a spike in calls to poison control hot lines after he proposed ingesting disinfectants as a coronavirus treatment.

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welcome back. as some states are reporting a sudden spike in poison control calls, the president yesterday denied responsibility for his suggestion to inject disinfectant as a possible virus cure. >> now that other states, governor larry hogan specifically said they've seen a spike in people using disinfectant after your comments last week. i know you said they were sarcastic -- >> i can't imagine why. i can't imagine why, yeah. >> do you take any responsibility for -- >> no, i can't imagine. i can't imagine that. >> i can't imagine why, except for the fact that i made the suggestion of doing the at a coronavirus briefing as the president of the united states. once again, do not do it.

it could kill you. also, the centers for disease control and prevention added six new symptoms of the coronavirus to its list. suggesting that health experts are learning more about the ways this deadly virus is affecting patients across the country. the new symptoms are including chills, repeated shaking with chills, muscle pain, headaches, sore throat and new loss of taste or smell. previously, the cdc only listed three known symptoms which were shortness of breath, cough and fever. according to the cdc, these new symptoms could appear anywhere from 2 to 14 days after exposure to the virus. with that, we want to turn once again to my friend, bill karins standing by for us. bill, it speaks to the fact that we are still learning so much of this disease on a daily basis when you have the cdc adding this list of new symptoms to its site for the coronavirus. >> i think it's interesting, yasmin. i remember you saying, you and

ayman both three or four weeks ago about the loss of smell and taste. interesting that it came out just recently. yesterday we hit our 1 millionth positive case in our country. but there are some positives. yesterday, as i mentioned, the numbers on monday were the lowest they've been in over a month. so the new cases yesterday was a little over 23,000. that was the lowest daily total since march 29th. are we finally coming off this peak plateau? you can see over the last three weeks, each bart represents the number of daily positive cases reported. the last two days, and i put the black arrow there yesterday, we have taken a dip down. so are we finally going down the stairs? that's what we're going to find out as we go throughout the next couple of days. we've had a couple of false starts and then going back up. let's see if we can finally head

back down. a severe thunderstorm is right over the top in between ft. worth and dallas. if it's not over dallas yet, it will be there in about five minutes. they're saying golf-ball sized hail, widespread thunderstorms. and then the other story is the severe weather threat today, arkansas, areas from dallas to tulsa and then that storm system will sweep across the ohio valley and eventually get to the northeast. thursday, washington, d.c., baltimore and philly, some heavy rain late in the day. >> so the key, bill, as we are looking ahead when they start to reopen the states is, as you see that downward trend with the curve is that it continues, right? because as these states begin to reopen, we just hope that it doesn't begin to tick back up with that. bill karins, thanks so much. still ahead, we're going to go live to cnbc for an early look at what is driving the day on wall street. as we go to break, i got some positive news in the hunt for a coronavirus vaccine. according to the "new york times" with testing that shows their vaccine to be effective in

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welcome back, everybody. the paycheck protection program has reconvened after receiving funding, but things are off once again to a rocky start. juliana, good morning to you. talk us through this. what more can you tell us about

this second rollout? >> just like the first rollout, yasmin, we've seen businesses scramble to try to secure funding from this program because as we saw last time, it dried out extraordinarily quickly. so the sba is saying they saw a rush of applications just yesterday when the program reopened. businesses trying to secure aid before this next tranche runs out. last time around, one of the key criticisms was that a lot of larger companies, sometimes public companies, actually accessed the funding is when it was designed for smaller, more cash-strapped businesses. so this is something we need to keep an eye on, especially because the banks are the ones who determine who gets the funding. they are the vehicle here. so a lot of scrutiny coming under the banks for who they actually allocate the funding to. now, in other stimulus news, the federal reserve who is also under pressure for the limited scope of one of its support programs, they decided yesterday to expand the range of cities and counties that are eligible

for its municipal liquidity facility. now the criteria for accessing this support, a city will now just have to have 250,000 residents, counties need reside. previously it was in order to be eligible. cities needed 1 million residents and counties needed 2 million. a lot more of those hard-hit communities will now be able to take advantage of this support coming from the federal reserve. yasm yasmin? >> julianna, let's talk travel for a moment. our pete williams was reporting yesterday travel is down 95% from this time last year. amidst all this, jetblue elevating safety precautions for fly flyers, requiring face masks. what more can you tell us about this? >> that's right. jetblue is proving to be one of the strictest when it comes to new safety measures to try to encourage passengers to return to flying and make sure they feel safe when they do. jetblue, starting may 4th, will

require all passengers to wear a face mask. american airlines and delta are also taking precautions. they'll require thousands of employees to wear masks, and they're also going to provide masks for customers and encourage those passengers to wear them. airline labor unions, as i'm sure you know, repeatedly demanded stronger protections against coronavirus. good to see. yas, back to you. >> julianna tatelbaum, live from london. great to see you. up next, axios' one big thing. coming up on "morning joe," as states across the country move to reopen for business, when it comes to the nation's capital, d.c. major myruriel bowser says, we're not there yet. plus, chuck schumer will be our guest. "morning joe" is moments away. y. we need each other more than ever. we may be apart, but we're not alone. use aarp community connections

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she'sfeaturing the emmyted, award-winning voice remote. access to your favorite apps, including netflix, prime video, youtube and hulu. all without changing passwords and inputs. the most 4k content and movies and shows on any screen. the best entertainment experience all in one place. welcome back, everybody. joining me with a look at axios a.m., national political reporter for axios, jonathan swan. jonathan, good morning to you. great to see you today.

you interviewed new york governor andrew cuomo. you asked him if there was anything that he would have done differently now as he looks back in response to the coronavirus. let's play what he had to say. >> when we heard in december that china had a virus problem, and china said, basically, it was under control, don't worry, we should have worried. i wish someone stood up and blew the bugle. if no one was going to blow the bugle, i would feel much better if i was a bugle-blower last december and january, even though no one danced to the music. i would feel better sitting here today, saying, "i blew the bugle about wuhan province in january." i can't say that. >> so did he say, jonathan, why

he didn't blow the bugle, as he says, back in december and january, when reports first started to surface? >> no. it was a very revealing part of the interview, because he still believes to this day that if he had have come out earlier and told new yorkers, "we need you to social distance," he says he doesn't believe they would have listened. as we were talking, he was saying he was listening to protesters. he could hear them from outside his window. so he's very conflicted on this. look, there are real questions about the speed of his response. obviously, the world health organization, on january 30th, declared it an international public health emergency. on march the 2nd, as late as march 2nd, governor cuomo was still expressing what he described as new york arrogance, saying "we have the best health care system in the world," and

he didn't think it'd be as bad as other countries. now, new york, the state he governors, more than 20,000 new yorkers dead. the city itself has a vastly worse death count than any other major global city, tokyo, seoul. it's a really tough situation. i thought that this was the most revealing, introspective comments he's made, even though he is doing media appearances every day. >> did he give you a sense at all during this interview, jonathan, as to how new york specifically will look after this pandemic is gone, or even after this phase one is completed, as we await a possible resurgence in the fall? >> not in sort of concrete terms, beyond what he's said publicly. it was very interesting, hearing him reflect on how society will change after this. he sort of reflected on the nature of leadership in these

crises. he said, the cliche is leaders lead. he said, "well, maybe, but actually, societies lead." in this case, he thinks that people won't want to go through something like this again and that society will demand -- i think he was talking more about new york, that their leaders take this more seriously. so the idea that new york will go back to normal any time soon, i did not detect that from him whatsoever. i think he foresees society changed by this experience. >> i want to get to this last thing. you have polling suggesting a majority of americans, amidst all of this, they are concerned about the collapse of the economy. break down the numbers for us on this. >> yes. this is pretty interesting polling. axios poll. 89% of americans, both republicans and democrats, now

worry about the u.s. economy collapsing. in a 50/50 nation, we almost never see lopsided results like this. this figure is one of the most vivid indications yet, the real panic about the future is settling in throughout america. now, where you do see a partisan breakdown is the question of your community reopening too soon. democrats are very worried about that, 88%. republicans, not so worried, 56%. when you really go into those numbers, it becomes quite stark as to why that's the case. african-americans who, as we all know, tragically, have been far worse affected by this virus -- i want to get the number right -- 28% of african-americans polled know somebody who died. that's three times as likely as whites. >> wow. >> like, just dwell on that. that's incredible statistics. three times as likely as whites

to know someone who has died. that helps sort of see some of the nuances inside these numbers. >> yeah. those numbers are completely astounding. jonathan swan, thank you so much for bringing that to us. we're going to be reading axios am in a little while. you can sign up for the newsletter at signup.axios.com. that does it for me on this tuesday morning. i'm yasmin vossoughian. "morning joe" starts right now. this president's pattern of taking this information is different than president obama. i've done a little historical reading. it is different than president clint clinton's, as well. i think the reason is he finds value. we're able to convince him the facts we're delivering impact his capacity to perform his mission. i think the day that we can't, i think the day we can't deliver that will be the day that it starts getting pushed off, and other things begin to occupy that time and space. >> that was then cia director mike