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>> good wednesday morning, everybody. it is april 29th. i'm yasmin vossoughian. we do have a lot to cover this morning. the u.s. crossing the 1 million mark, a grim milestone for confirmed cases of the coronavirus yesterday. while the death toll from the virus has now surpassed that of the vietnam war, 58,220 americans were killed during the roughly 20-year war. while nearly 59,000 americans died from covid-19 in less than two months. in terms of confirmed cases there are now 1.17 million across the country. that represents worldwide cases. the president was asked about it at an event yesterday. take a listen. >> back in late february, you predicted that the number of cases would go down to zero.

how did we get from your prediction of zero from 1 million? >> well, we will go to zero. when it comes to testing, we're going to do much more testing than anybody else. if you add anybody else combined that will be a number, and it will be at the appropriate time. it will be down to zero, like we said. >> again, more testing than anybody else, yes, but not more testing per capita. we need more testing in this country. with that, back on march 6th, the president said anyone who wants a test can actually get a test but dr. anthony fauci the director of the national institute of allergies and infectious diseases yesterday said that the united states is is not there yet. and it will probably be at least another month before every american who needs a coronavirus test will actually be able to get one. >> when will everybody who needs to get a test be able to get one? >> yeah. i like the word you use, jake,

when you said "need." a lot of times people say, i want a test. and it's not part of the strategic approach. but needing is important. everyone who needs a test, according to the way we're approaching the identification, isolation, contract tracing, keeping the country safe and healthy, that hopefully, we should see that as we get towards the end of may, beginning of june. >> meanwhile, the president suggested yesterday that the united states will soon be able to test 5 million people a day. >> some health experts say the u.s. needs 5 million tests per day by june in order to safely reopen. you unveiled a plan yesterday that will increase testing but not by that much. why not, and you can get to that benchmark? >> well, it will increase it, and it will increase it much more than that in the future.

we're way ahead of everybody in the country. >> you're confident you can surpass 5 million tests per day, is that -- >> we're going to be there very soon. if you look at the numbers it could be that we're getting very close. i don't have the exact numbers we would have had them if you asked me the same question a little while ago because people with the statistics were there. we're going to be there very soon. >> all right, so, i want to note that the united states is currently nowhere near conducting 5 million tests ber day. in fact, according to the covid tracking project, the u.s. has conducted about 5.8 million tests in totally. joining me now washington reporter for politico, daniel lippman. great to see you on this wednesday morning. >> thank you. >> let's talk about this stuff. you have dr. anthony fauci saying one thing, that we don't have enough tests in the system,

as of yet. and you have the president saying basically anyone who wants to get a test can get a test. we're testing more than anyone else around the world is blatantly not true. per capita in this country. what do you make of once again this clashing information from dr. fauci to the president? >> well, dr. fauci clearly cares about his credibility. he's not going to say that we're going to get near 5 million tests per day. that's probably several months out, at best. and i think what we have to see from this administration is an actual testing strategy. they're relying on, you know, labs and hospitals to do them. but you really need federal intervention sometimes to actually get to that level. so, fauci is not going to throw away his credibility and say the same thing as trump because, you know, trump also needs fauci to be credible. and fauci can't just repeat the talking points that don't

actually make sense and are not actually accurate. >> let's talk capitol hill for a moment here. you have house leaders now saying they're no longer going to be returning to session next week, as previously scheduled, because of the pandemic, understandable. should there be concern, though, if the house remains in recess while the senate aims to return next week? >> i think house members, they want to get back to capitol hill. but they want to do it in a safe way. remember, they have families, too. and you know, until may 15th, we have a stay-at-home order in d.c. which prohibits, you know, gatherings of large numbers of people, and the house about 400 people. and staff members coming back as well, that would violate the rules. people were surprised on capitol hill that steny hoyer announced that the house would be coming

back and then reversed that. they're trying to renegotiate bipartisan reopening package for the house so that no one is caught blind sided. >> daniel lippman for us, as always, my friend, we'll talk to you in a little bit. let's talk 2020. hillary clinton endorsing joe biden for president joining him at a virtual town hall. she praised biden for amplifying great leadership. >> i want to add my voice to the many who have endorsed you to be our president. just think of what a difference it would make right now, if we had a president who not only listened to the science, but facts over fiction, but pulled us together. >> so, as many of you remember, clinton, the former secretary of state under obama was the first woman to secure a major party's presidential nomination.

and is the latest key political figure to endorse biden in the upcoming election. her endorsement comes just days after the former vice president received backing from other major political leaders including former president obama, as well as senators elizabeth warren and bernie sanders. also republican-turned independent justin amash announce head would explore running for president as a libertarian. the michigan congressman took to twitter writing this, we are ready for a presidency that will restore respect for our constitution and bring people together. i'm excited and honored to be taking these first steps towards serving americans of every background. as president. according to "the new york times," amash left the republican party last year because of his unease with how the party supported the president. it's unclear how his candidacy could affect the race. and specifically whether he would help or hinder the current president's re-election.

as the "times" is reporting out, amash's presence on the ballot in key states could potentially play a pivotal role as trump won the presidency four years ago. thanks in part to the votes captured by third party candidates. still ahead, we have a lot more, everybody. cruise lines are facing a growing number of lawsuits in the wake of the coronavirus pandemic. but it could be an uphill battle for those seeking payouts. also, a federal investigation is under way after dozens of residents at a home for ageing residents died after a coronavirus outbreak. those stories and, of course, a check of your weather, when we come back.

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welcome back, everybody. the cruise ship industry is under legal assault from both passengers and employees alike. it's being accused of carryings the coronavirus around the world. and endangering lives by continuing to sail after the

virus was found on a ship. celebrity cruises and its parent company royal caribbean are being sued by employees for allegedly failing to follow basic safety precautions. by april 6th, more than 350 crew members tested positive for covid-19 after mandatory crew drills with no masks or social distancing were held the previous month. passengers on a costa cruise, a subsidiary of carnival cruise line also filed a negligence suit claiming that they were, quote, dragged across the atlantic in a ticketing coronavirus time bomb after an employee was known tested positive for the virus. even though 800 passengers aboard two princess cruise ships tested positive for covid-19 and at least ten have died. experts say their lawsuits will be hard to win. the challenging part is that

cruise lines may be protected by a century-old maritime law. joining me now msnbc legal analyst danny cevallos. danny, this is not surprising to hear this is happening now, considering all of the news that was surrounding cruise ships especially at the beginning of this pan dem you cademicpandemi. talk us through, though, the 100-year-old maritime law. >> passengers and what are calls seamen in the law are treat the differently. normally, you have workers compensation for a workplace related illustra d illness but even in the united states. this federal law replaces what would be workers compensation, it actually allows workers, or seamen, as they're called to bring a direction against an

lower for not providing a ship that is seaworth and maintenance in other words, paying them while they're ill and paying them to get better. traditionally, for passengers, it's very difficult to sue cruise lines. they're often flagged under different countries, they have contracts on their tickets that limit liability or force passengers into weird forums into places like italy or something like that so they'd have to bring a lawsuit in another country which just isn't reasonable. but passengers do have the classic cause of negligence. they have to prove that the cruise ship breached the duty and it caused them damages. but interestingly, as per princess cruises, they told npr, they don't comment on pending litigation but, quote, the response to this process is focused on the well-being of our guests on the parameters dictated to us on the situation involved and the medical

understanding of the new illness. that is the key to their defense. we essentially were doing exactly what everybody else was doing. we did everything that was known and understood at the time. and our response was reasonable under the circumstances. >> but, you would think, especially from what you just said, that this cruise line did in fact cause damage to some of these passengers, especially after warnings had already been put about the spreading pandemic. cruises still continued to cruise. and in that time period. also if you are an employer, as you mentioned on this cruise line, don't you have to meet certain safety standards for your crew, who essentially don't really have a choice and have to come to work every day, considering the fact that you continue to cruise during this pandemic? >> not only do workers have to come to work every day, they live at work. they live on the ship in many cases. for other workers, this jones act, another maritime law, is

actually somewhat favorable to them. but they still need to prove a legal clause called causation, that they got to the ship by the negligence and an uphill battle but it's an easier case when you live and work in the same place where you got the virus. >> thank you, danny cevallos. still ahead, everybody, europe is slowly reopening, and leaders in spain are outlining what the, quote, new normal will look like in that hard-hit country. we're going to get a live report from madrid coming up next.

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last sunday, children were allowed to go out for the first time after six weeks. and the government announced that adults would be able to exercise outside starting from may 2nd, if infections, that's if, infections continue to fall there. so far in spain now, 24,000 have died from the coronavirus. joining me now from madrid, nbc news correspondence willem marx for us. willem, good morning. great to see you. walk us through the spanish government's announcement here. and really the plan to reopen the country in this phased approach. >> reporter: well, the full phase of the government, it's not a one size fits all policy because different parts of the country are going to have different infection levels. they'll be able to move faster or slower than that. starting may 4th, that's monday, some restaurants will be able to reopen. and if you're hair is getting log and shaggy like mine, you

can go to the hairdresser, you'll be having to wear masks and gloves. the week after, hotels are opening, cinemas, theaters all with vee stricted capacity. really big changes for life here, but for the next six weeks, they hope to have people travel around the country and once again visit relatives and feel slieghtly back to normal. there were big changes yesterday with the hospitals, he said the virus will come back and what has to happen this winter it will come back and spain will be better prepared. take a listen. >> i think the next wave will be less intense than this one because there will be a proportion of the population has been already infected. but, putting the people at home has been i think the best measure. and that must be done earlier

this time. much earlier. >> reporter: that's scarfixavie marker there, it's not a question of when or if this will come back later in the year, spain working incredibly hard, yasmin, making sure they're prepared for that. ramping up the capacity and stockpiling huge amounts of ppe. >> hopefully, we're all better prepared in that round of this pandemic. nbc's willem marx, my friend, great to see you. by the way, your hair looks just fine. i want to bring in nbc meteorologist bill karins standing by for us. bill, great to see you. talk us through some of these numbers as we have been tracking the downside of this curve of the coronavirus pandemic. >> yeah. good morning. great to see you again, yasmin. mixed numbers yesterday, the case are were still relatively low compared to the peak that we

had a couple weeks ago. but yesterday was a very grim deadly day across the country. we're almost up to 60,000. we'll pass that number during the day today. and yesterday, after a relatively low number on monday. yesterday was a big number. 2,470 lives were lost. fifth deadliest day reported yesterday alone. it was the usual suspects. this is the top six states reporting new deaths. new york, new jersey held the top spots for a long time. but pennsylvania really jumped up with 200 fate taalities and 2% of the deaths reported yesterday. let's get to weather. 20% of the people reported without power in texas and louisiana, the storms will clear

out by noon. notice we still have storms from the ohio valley to the gulf coast, the threat to mississippi and georgia mostly storm damage coming through. i don't think you'll see tornados. a heavy band of rain coming through the mid-atlantic thursday. looks like thursday afternoon, d.c., philadelphia, 6:00, and thursday night around 8:00 to 10:00 p.m. no severe weather, yasmin, but it will pour for two or three hours and then an ugly friday. it's been an ugly april. a lot of us waiting to get warmer. >> really hoping that those april showers bring may flowers because we need it right about now. still ahead, president trump and nancy pelosi trade barbs after house speaks reverse their plans and decide not to return to washington next week. we're going to show you that back and forth. plus, vice president mike pence facing criticism after

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president yesterday insisted the country has weathered the worst of the pandemic, and that the nation will be ready for a potential second wave. >> now that our experts believe the worst days of the pandemic are behind us, americans are looking forward to the safe and rapid reopening of our country. throughout this ordeal, millions of hard working americans have been asked to really make tremendous, tremendous sacrifices. >> -- that the worst of the pandemic is behind us do you feel safe reopening? >> well, i think that other things, we're going to -- hopefully, we're going to come up with a vaccine. tremendous progress hack made, johnson & johnson and oxford, lots of good things. you hear the same things as i do. tremendous progress has been made in a vaccine we think.

you always have to say think. you always have to test it and it takes time. a lot of good progress has been made with a vaccine. but i think what happens, this is going to go away. whether it comes back in a modified form in the fall we'll be able to handle it. we'll be able to put out spurts and be able to handle it. >> all right. so, president trump was also pressed yesterday in the. willi "washington post" reports in the daily briefings. >> have you been getting warnings about the -- >> i'd have to check. i'd have to check. i'd have to look to the exact dates of warnings. but i can tell you this, when i did the ban on china, almost everybody was against me, including republicans. they thought it was far too harsh, that it wasn't necessary. professionals, republicans and democrats almost everybody disagreed. and that was done early.

i think we save -- whether it was luck, talent or something else, we saved many thousands of lives. anthony said that, you were saying that. a lot of people said it. i think you have a much different situation right now. >> again, just want to reiterate here, according to reporting and the president was repeatedly informed about the growing threat of this pandemic during his intelligence briefings. also, the president blasted house democrats after they decided to not return to washington next week due to the continuing threat of coronavirus infection. here's the president's jab at house speaker pelosi in particular. >> the democrat, they don't want to come back. they don't want to come back. i think they should be back here. they're enjoying their vacation, and they shouldn't be -- >> do you think -- >> yeah, i think they are. they are. you see nancy pelosi eating ice cream on late night television. i think they're probably having a great time. i think they should come back. i think they should all come

back and work on this together. >> and here's house speaker pelosi responded to the president. >> so rather than spending time talking about the president saying we should inject lysol in our lungs, he makes a big deal about me having ice cream in my freezer. lysol and the freezer. i have ice cream in my freezer, i think that's better than having lysol in somebody's lungs as he's suggesting. again, that's him. >> lots of back and forth even still with the pandemic in washington. joining me once again, washington reporter for politico daniel lippman. the jabs still being thrown, daniel, in the midst of this pandemic. they do not disappoint. president trump now saying as we just heard, daniel, the worst days of this pandemic, they're behind us. but the united states just hit a new milestone with 1 million

cases. almost 60,000 deaths countrywide. how is his mixed messaging having an impact on his administration, especially when we're on the side of an election year. >> well, i think it's undermining, you know, trust, among some administration members themselves because they feel it's sometimes hard to defend their response. especially his rhetoric. and so they have predicted, you know, 70,000 deaths by the end of this pandemic. but that number is probably going to be hit in the next week or two, if the numbers continue to go up. and so, that -- you know, that milestone is likely not to hold fast. i would basically assume that we would have all coronavirus deaths end in a week or two, which is not going to happen. >> let's talk about some of your reporting. the president has seen a lot of backlash, as we know at this point, following several

controversial comments at press briefings, including talking about disinfectant, putting light in the body somehow. he's threatened to cancel the briefings altogether. what can you tell us about what has happened behind the scenes, regarding the president's communication team? and your latest piece mentions there may have been a major shuffle amidst all of that. >> yeah. so, i broke the news yesterday that the coronavirus communications coordination at the white house basically, you know, who is in charge of handling reporter inquiries and who's booking administration officials on tv, that is changing for many officials. and that's going from vice president pence's communications office which is held by katie miller, to the white house regular -- to the regular white house press and communications shop, which has seen a change in recent weeks, mark meadows, the

new chief of staff, they brought in kaley mcen enni as the press secretary and alissa farrow as the communications director. the reason it's important, it's indicating they are kind of moving back to business as normal, as usual, and they're trying to pivot to a reopen the economy instead of a daily crisis. >> all right. daniel lipmann, thank you. great to see you this morning, daniel. >> thank you. so federal and state investigations are under way after dozens die at a massachusetts nursing home for veterans. according to the associated press, 68 veteran residents have died since late march, marking the debt leeiest known coronavirus outbreak in a long-term facility in the united states. another 82 residents and 81 employees have also tested positive. federal officials are now looking into whether residents were denied proper medical care. the state's top prosecutor is deciding whether to bring legal

action. one nurse says that staffing problems that have plagued the home for years contributed to the virus spreading like wildfire. meanwhile, the coronavirus outbreak continues to ravage nursing homes across the country. according to the associated press, the pandemic has killed nearly 14,000 people in nursing homes and long-term care facilities nationwide. that's a big percentage, especially if you compare it to the overall 60,000 that have died in this country. also mayor bill de blasio lashed out saying he will not after the afternoon gathering after a rabbi died. the mayor tweeted something unacceptable happened tonight. when i heard, i went there

myself and made sure that the crowd will be dispersed. he then tweeted,my message to the jewish community and all communities is this. the time for warnings has passed. i have instructed the nypd to proceed immediately to summons or even arrest those who gather in large groups. this is about stopping this disease and saving lives, period. the head of the anti-defamation league tweeted back, there are 1 million people and those should be called out and especial when so many are scapegoating jews, this erodes the very unity our city needs now more than ever. the mayor was spotted 11 miles from his gracy mansion home

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sprinting past every leak in our softest, smoothest fabric. she's confident, protected, her strength respected. depend. the only thing stronger than us, is you. welcome back, everybody. vice president mike pence toured the mayo clinic's coronavirus testing labs yesterday where he opted to ignore hospital policy. and did not wear a face mask while pence was meeting with doctors and sick patients. the minnesota hospital tweeted that it had, quote, informed the vice president of the masking policy prior to his arrival. that tweet was later deleted. meanwhile, pence defended his apparent violation of the medical center's policy. >> i'm tested for the coronavirus on a regular basis. and everyone who is around me is tested for the coronavirus. and when the cdc issued

guidelines about wearing a mask, it was their recognition that people that may have the coronavirus could prevent the possibility of conveying the virus to someone else by wearing a mask. and since i don't have the coronavirus, i thought it would be a good opportunity for me to be here, to be able to speak to these researchers, these incredible health care personnel and look them in the eye and say thank you. >> important to note, by the way, it was also the facility's guidelines as well. not just the cdc, but the facility's guidelines as i mentioned. and a reporter who was with pence on that tour noted the vice president was the only person seen inside of that facility without a face covering. by the way, you can have a face covering on and still look people in the eye. that's just an aside. let's get a check of your weather with nbc meteorologist bill karins who is also tracking the covid-19 numbers for us. bill. >> good morning once again.

obviously, the big head line at the top of the show, 1 million cases in the country. it took us 18 days, by the way, to go from 500,000 on april 10th to yesterday well over 1 million. now at 1.35 million. it's slow and on the downward trend. here's the bar graph which shows you, the peak which is pretty much all of april. that black arrow shows you what happened yesterday. if you take the average for three days, it's the largest three-day average since late march. slowly heading in that direction. tracking storms, early wake-up call in houston, charles, beaumont, racing down the gulf coast with wind damage. we have 100,000 to 200,000 people without power. it will run through mobile,

alabama later today. pretty decent day, yasmin, in areas in the northeast. appreciate it because it doesn't get any better this weekend. >> thank you, bill. still ahead, bill, we're going live to cnbc for an early look at what's driving the day on wall street. as we go to break, major league baseball citing talks, "usa today" reporting mlb fans have become cautiously optimistic that the season will start in late june, playing at least 100 regular season games with no fans in the stands. according to the paper, the league is considering a three-division ten-team plan in which teams play only within their division. it would abolish the traditional american and national leagues. and realign the divisions, based on geography. the plan, pending approval, of course, of medical experts and providing that coronavirus testing is available to the public, would eliminate the need

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welcome back, everybody. in a drastic effort to protect the hurting meat packing industry the president invokeded defense protection act to keep the plants open yesterday. cnbc's julianna tatelbaum is joining us live from london. this was a surprising move to say the least. talk us through what this means for the industry. >> that's right. and earlier this week, you and i were talking about the meat processing industry and how several workers had fallen ill with the coronavirus. and now the president invoking this defense protection act which will effectively keep plants over through the

pandemic. this has stirred up a lot of criticism from unions and worker advocates who say closures are necessary to stem the spread of the virus. so it's by no means a win-win for anybody at this point. i'm sure of what washington businesses, they've done a lot on the small business side of things with the triple p. they also plan to lend $500 billion to large companies. this is a program jointly rupd by the treasury department and the federal reserve. the central bank will buy up to $500 billion in bonds. but in terms of conditions, the businesses are required to pay back with interest the loans, but they're exempt from rules compelling them to maintain jobs. they also will not be required to limit dividends or executive compensation as part of participating in the program. >> let's talk about best buy here. hearing that they're going to be reopening to customers for in-store consultations.

what more can you tell us about this? >> that's right. starting in may the company will allow customers to schedule a time to come in and meet with a dedicated sales associate go over their technological questions. it's going to begin offering the service at 200 of its stores and then potentially roll it out more broadly. at the same time they're going to resume in home delivery, installation and repairs but they'll do so with more safety precautions in place. a little bit of a glimpse into what the new normal may look like. back to you. >> all right. thank you so much. great to see you this morning, julianna. coming up next, everybody, a look at axios' one big thing. and coming up on "morning joe," as the u.s. surpasses 1 million confirmed cases of the coronavirus, dr. anthony fauci says it will probably be at least another month before every american who needs a test will actually be able to get one. plus, with the house set to

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welcome back, everybody. joining me now with a look at axios a.m. political reporter for axios, alexis mccammond. great to see you this morning. talk to us about axios' one big thing today. >> well, today's one big thing is about the new coronavirus bill that congress is considering. and according to a scoop from my colleague jonathan swan, yesterday republican senate majority leader mitch mcconnell told his republican senate colleagues on a conference call that he basically didn't want to move forward with president trump's idea to use a new coronavirus bill to fund republicans' investment infrastructure plans. this is something that president trump has been floating to mcconnell and other republicans.

and now mcconnell's move basically telling republicans that he's not comfortable with the way that the white house wants to write these spending bills and sort of blow up the deficit even more than republicans have already seen it blown up under president trump. he's deviateding from president trump in a way when we've seen him working with him in every other way possible. >> wow, that's interesting, a break from the president with regards to mcconnell, something that we haven't seen in quite some time. axios also reporting once things start getting back to normal, alexis, there's going to be more intrusive security and slanclan surveillance meaningless privacy for americans. >> it's interesting when we consider the way in which society is changing and will continue to change because of coronavirus. but we look at the ways in some surveillance and privacy is

changing. we think about things like contact tracing and how we've heard conversations about apps to tell who you've come into contact with to better identify whether you have contact with coronavirus. delta has floated the idea of making airline passengers show that they're healthy before boarding an airplane. other ideas like taking the temperature before entering he a restaurant. the idea of doing that and violating hippa laws is something that makes me nervous now and i'm not a medical expert so i can only imagine what medical experts are thinking about something like that. but it's just adding to this idea that in the future in a post coronavirus world we're going to have a lot of surveillance and privacy questions. and these things that i just mentioned are bringing up questions around civil liberties and the protections that we have as americans in terms of our privacy now that coronavirus is obviously, you know, taking the country by storm and we're trying to use tech to find different ways to tackle this problem. but there are problems using tech to solve these issues.

>> i'm curious to know if there's been polling done about what americans think about this loss of privacy amid the thnew normal if it keeps them safer? >> americans are okay with losing some privacy if it keeps them healthy because of this pandemic. but i've heard from swing voters about this focus group that we do about feeling weird about taking their temperature before going into a restaurant. i hear things like them saying they would rather eat at home than jump through hoops like that to go out to a restaurant when there's so much uncertainty about this as it is. >> great to see you this morning, alexi. going to be reading axios am in just a minute. you can read it at signup.axios.com. that does it for me on this wednesday morning. "morning joe" starts right now. the first phase, which is

getting ready to respond, clearly we were not in a position of extraordinary strength. >> a lot of people think that goes away in april with the heat, as the heat comes in. typically that will go away in april. we're in great shape, though. >> we didn't have the testing as fast as we could have or should have. >> anybody that needs a test gets a test. they're there. they have the tests. and the tests are beautiful. >> the key in leadership is recognizing you're not the smartest guy in the room. >> the metric's right here, that's my metrics. that's all i can do. i can listen to 35 people. at the end, i've got to make a decision. >> that first phase is not one that will stand out as being a great moment in leadership. >> mitt romney and president trump in their own words. good morning and welcome to "morning joe." it is wednesday, april 29th. along with joe, willie and me we have msnbc national affairs analysts and co-host of show time's the circus and editor and

chief of the recount, john heilemann. and washington anchor for bbc world news america caddkatty k. >> and you're actually starting to see, willie, in the media some of the same trump supporters who were calling this a media hoax at the beginning saying the media was exaggerating it, at the same time the president was saying it was 15 cases and very soon would be down to zero. now ofors over a million cases and more people dead than died in vietnam. but you're hearing some of these same people now talk about how it was a mistake for the united states -- the hospitals to prepare for a pandemic. to prepare for the oncoming crush. oh, this has done horrible things for elective surgeries. and i saw