right here this friday. will we get into the dad jokes? only time will tell. my thanks to jared and 50. join us tomorrow and friday if you want to see 50 here on the beat with ari melbourne. and keep it right here on msnbc. good evening. i'm steven kerr knack y -- i' st steve kernacki in new york. at this hour, there are more than 1 million confirmed cases of the virus in this country. and more than 60,000 americans have died at the white house today president trump seemed to address the testing question differently than he did yesterday. >> you are saying you are confident you can surpass 5 million tests per day? that -- >> we are going to be there very

soon. if you look at the numbers it could be that we are getting very close. >> and they said 5 million? well, we will be there. but i didn't say it. i didn't say it. somebody came out with a report saying 5 million. it sounds like a lot. sure it would be nice. and we will be there. but again, we didn't say it. who said sit a report. i heard the 5 million is totally unnecessary. that doesn't mean we are not going to hit it pretty easily. again i think it is a media trap. >> on tuesday, admiral brett ju waugh who runs the task force testing program told the "time" magazine there is no way we can do 20 million tests a day or even 5 million test as day. the concern for the demand on testing comes amid one of the starkest pictures to emerge, the economic devastation. the nation's gross domestic

product, the value of all goods and services produced shank 4.8% the first quarter of this year. a bigger drop is expected during the second quarter, which is under way now and which lasts until the end of june. today the white house announced plan to allow the federal 30 day social distancing guidelines to expire tomorrow saying the onus is now on individual states and their governors to draft their own guidelines. "new york times" chief white house correspondent peter baker writes with more and more states ready for some semblance of normal life the message from president trump sounded contradictory and confusing. the president is anxious to get the stalled economy running again as the election comes nearer and encouraged protesters even if it causes a second wave

of the disease. dr. anthony fauci spoke about the prospects over the next couple of months. >> now that our experts believe the worst days of the pandemic are behind us, americans are looking forward to the safe and rapid reopening of our country. >> if we are unsuccessful or prematurely try to open up and we have additional outbreaks that are out of control, it could be much more than that. it could be a rebound to get us right back in the same boat that we were in a few weeks ago. >> this is going to go away. and whether it comes back in a modified form in the fall, we will be able to handle it. we will be able to put out spurts. >> it is not going to peter out by itself because it is all over the world. so next fall or next winter it is not going to be a miracle where all of a sudden we wake up and it is gone. >> the president's most recent statement on testing came just over an hour ago. >> over the next coming weeks, you will see some astonishing

numbers. i don't know that all of that is each necessary because you have some governors that love the tests. you have others that like doing it a different way, an old-fashioned way with some testing. but we are going maximum testing. >> what will ultimately make all the difference when it comes to controlling this virus and restoring american life to what it was is treatment, drugs to fight off the coronavirus or a vaccine to prevent it. on that critical front, there was an encouraging announcement today from dr. fauci. results from a clinical trial show that the drug rent des veer has a clear-cut effect on diminishing the time it takes to recover from coronavirus. >> what it has proven is that a drug can block this virus. looking forward, this is very optimistic. we think it is really opening the door to the fact that we now have the capability of treating.

i can guarantee you as more companies, more investigators get involved it is going to get better and better. >> for more i am joined by congresswoman val demings of florida, dr. derek casse, of yahoo and associate professor of emergency medicine at columbia university medical center. and peter baker chief white house correspondent for the "new york times." thank you for being with us. doctor, let me start with you. it is not every day we hear truly encouraging news coming out of dr. fauci's mouth. but we did today on the possibility of a potential treatment for this virus. rent disveer. tell us what it is, what it is apparently doing and what it could mean? >> there is a lot of drugs that we are trying to use on the virus and see how it affects the body. a lot of the people are getting

the experimental treatments when they are hospitalized and very, very sick. this medicine affects how the virus replicates and it can shorten the duration a person is in the hospital. what we really need to know is that these are critically ill and hospitalized patients who are seeing a shorter duration of hospitalization. but it's still late in the course of disease. i think it is encouraging that anything can short ten course of hospitalization, there are real economic and human health care impacts for that. but i would say we are a far cry from declaring victory over this virus from a medication standpoint. >> to clarify, certainly no one is declaring victory from this. but what dr. fauci seemed to say in that clip was basically this proves the possibility. it proves the possibility of eight tackling it with medicine. if you have established you can

come occupy with some kind of a treatment that's not universally effective on this but it can have some effect what does it mean in terms of the near term future of developing treatments. >> again it is still very early and it is not a double blind trial. it is a press release from the organization that developed the you go doctor. what it states is there are encouraging developments in treating the virus when it gets into somebody's body and starts making them very, very sick. we need more of those treatments and we need to make sure people don't get infected in the first place, which is why continuing to do the social distancing and ensuring that we have testing is critical. >> remdisivir on the treatment front. the trump administration is organizing a manhattan style project style effort calls operation warp speed to drastically cut the time needed to create a coronavirus vaccine with the goal of making enough doses for most americans by

year's end. there is no precedent for such a rapid development of a vaccine. this comes as various groups have said this week they are pushing for a vaccine to be available by the fall. congre congresswoman, what this bloomberg report is saying about the trump administration potentially prioritizing this, do you know anything about it? what role should the federal government be doing when it comes to a vaccine? >> it is great to be with you. let me say the news from dr. fauci is certainly exciting. we know that a vaccine is really the ultimate answer to the covid-19 pandemic. however, our role is to make sure that whatever we roll out, that information is factual, that it has been tested, that it has been approved in terms of safety and other reasons. and we have to proceed with -- very cautiously and be as they say cautiously optimistics.

our role is to also make sure that we continue to stay focused on developing additional testing, particularly in those areas that have been hit the hardest and those areas and those areas and that's black and brown communities where we have seen an unbelievable number of those testing positive. and make sure that we from a federal level have the resources and the coordination that we need to effectively deal with this crisis so we can reopen in a strategic, timely, but very safe way. >> peter baker, you wrote about the messages the white house, the messages the president has been sending when it comes to states and beginning the process of reopening. you have -- we said the administration saying, the president saying they are not going to extend those federal guidelines, putting the onus on the states. you also had the president last week castigating the governor of georgia brian kemp for as trump said opening too soon. is there tonight a clear message

coming from this white house to the states about how they should be proceeding? >> no, not really, because you did hear today a president who was much more leaning in the, we're over this message, we are past this, or we are moving past this. he is talking about traveling again. he is talking about football games in the fall, perhaps. you know, the other day he talked to governors about maybe reopening schools. nobody actually seems to be following his lead at least this semester. the question is now the fall. to listen to him today was to hear a president who thinks they are past the worst and the states i think as they begin to open them are going to move the economy back out, get it moving forward again, get people back into work even with precautions and conditions and so forth that the doctors and other health experts would like them to use. you heard him say for instance he is going to travel himself next week. it will be basically the first time in more than six weeks i think other than a trip down to

norfolk that he would leave the white house. he is planning to go to arizona and he is going to go to ohio. he sounds like he has a little bit of cabin fever like a lot of americans. but the question is whether or not he and dr. fauci and dr. birx and other experts are on the saim same page. when you hear from them they don't see this as being over. they see this as being one step and making progress. but with a lot of pain possibly still ahead. we had 60,000 people today who reached that landmark of deaths. that is top the vietnam war in just eight weeks. it is tough to be positive but the president is trying to put the best lite on it? a new poll shows almost 3/4 of registered vote e 73%, say americans should practice social distancing as long as needed

even if it means continued damage to the economy. only 15% said americans should stop social distancing in order to stimulate the economy even if that means spreading the coronavirus. another poll shows that without testing a large percentage of registered voters say it is a bad idea to return to normal life. two thirds say it is a bad idea to return to work. more than 80% say it is a bad idea to return to school, attend sporting events in large groups, and eat in restaurants. congresswoman, we are talking about the conditions under which states could begin the reopening process. your state, florida, the governor, governor de santis today announced what he calls phase one of reopening will begin next week in all of florida except for miami-dade, broward, and palm beach counties in south florida. we were talking about this yesterday. 60% of the deaths in florida are in those three counties. the governor says next week that

phase one will start in every county except those three. phase one means six feet of distance for outdoor dining. restaurants can operate at a maximum of 25% capacity for indoor seating. retail stores can reopen at 25% capacity. elective surgeries can begin again in all of the counties in the state except those three. are you on board with that plan? >> steve, let me tell you we are all anxious for our businesses to reopen. we know that serve hurting, not just here in florida, but across the nation. but the governor's primary responsible is the safety and security of floridians. so we are not ready. on march 1st, florida's surgeon general declared a public health emergency. yet it wasn't until april 3rd that governor de santis issued a stay at home order.

it would put us behind the 8 ball, if you will and terms of our response. i am sure you and others saw during spring break our beaches were wide open and young people were partying as much as they wanted to when we should have been practicing social distancing. we have had 32,000 people in florida to contract the virus. we have had over 1,000 people die in florida. yesterday, just yesterday, we had the most deadliest day in florida. so i just don't see how the governor could possibly be talking about today, after the most deadliest day in florida, rolling out a plan to reopen. we are just not ready. >> congresswoman, i just want to following up on that. we were tracking the statistics yesterday. you know, and a statistic yesterday about the deadliest day in florida. the number was 8 for the day.

obviously it is a terrible number but it appears that that number was a product of the data reporting system, they don't report at love deaths over the weekend. they report more on tuesday. i say that because today's number came out and it was half of that number, half of 83. if you look at the seven-day averages on these things, currently for the most recent week it is 41 per day. a week ago it was 45 per day. so it has week over week ticked down a bit. again, i just -- in light of that, outside of those three counties, 25% capacity. you say no to that, though? >> i do, steve. i do say no to that. you know, this is like nothing we have ever seen before. and it requires us to respond like we have never responded before. and so as i say -- and i will say it again.

the safety of floridians is the governor's numbers one concern. what we have seen, if we can learn anything from other states we have seen those governors who basically defy what medical experts have had to say and what scientists have had to say and reopen. but when you look at the response of the american people, they are still afraid. they are still worried about their health and the health of their family. i don't believe we are there yet. i don't believe we're there as a nation. and we just have to be strategic. we have to be smart. and when we roll -- there is also talk about a possible resurgence, god forbid, in the fall. we just need to be smart in how we roll out reopening. i don't believe we are there yet in florida. i don't believe we are there yet in the nation. >> congresswoman val demings from florida. dr. derek casse, and peter baker from the ims. >>. thank you for being with us. coming up, the pandemic and the resulting economic crisis is causing increasing incertainty for some republicans up for

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we are on the other side of the medical aspect of this. and i think that we have achieved all the different milestones that are needed. so the government, federal government rose to the challenge and this is a great success story. >> welcome back, that was the president's adviser and social, jared kushner today with his characterization the administration's response to the pandemic. republican senator mitt romney takes an opposing view. speaking to students at georgetown university last night, he offered this assessment. >> when it came to ppe, when it came to testing, and just the speed of our response, looked slow. that first phase was not one that will stand out i think as being a great moment in american leadership. >> as the debate over the administration's response continues nbc news is reporting that quote the white house has ordered intelligence agencies to

establish whether china and the world health organization initially hid what they knew about the emerging coronavirus pandemic. the story notes that, quote, the move coincides with a public effort by the white house to focus on china's inability to contain the virus. here's the president on that investigation today. >> mr. predator, what are you hoping to learn about china and the world health organization with this investigation you have commissioned with the intelligence agencies? >> right, it is coming in, and i am getting pieces already. and we are not happy about it. and we are by far the largest contributor to w.h.o., world health, and they misled us. i don't know. they must have known more than they knew. they seemed to work for china. and they should have been in there early. they should have known what was going on. and they should have been able to stop it -- you talk about stopping the spread or stopping the embers, that could have been stopped there. >> nbc news is also reporting tonight that the president, quote, lashed out at his

campaign manager last friday after advisers briefed him on internal polling showing him trailing joe biden in multiple key states. ip joined by former congressman joe walsh, republican of illinois and noah rothman of commentary magazine. thanks to both for being with us. noah, we have this nbc news reporting on the president being apprised of some internal polling there. i am curious that we stopped seeing the nightly two and a half-hour briefings. we had the rose garden event the other day. but the president has been quieter this week. have you seen a shift in strategy from the white house? >> almost certainly. you saw the president sort of defer to his desire to saturate media outlets and present himself as a figure who was on too much events because he was dictating the terms of news coverage.

and that certainly seems to have backfire on him at least in the most recent couple of weeks. scaling back the press briefings is something he has been disinclined to do. and he did so only after what we can fairly rationally assess as being a complete disaster, the notion when he began extemporaneously ponder being the effects that disinfectants could have when injected. that became a news cycle that ran away with him. and it certainly has had no great effect on his polls. we can talk about whether or not this president would have -- or a different president would have responded better to this crisis. i am skeptical of that, the entire western world was taken off its back feet in this one. but you can say in the absence of this president we would not be having a news cycle about the efficacy of ingesting caustic chem confirms that's going the cost him in the polls and going to cost him in november.

>> joe, you have been a trump critic, and you have made it clear you have limited expectations. with that in mind and with the president apparently adjusting a little bit, at least for this week, what realistically would you like to see him do? what -- from a leadership standpoint what would you like to see him do that you think he could do? >> don't tweet. don't speak. for the next seven months, just stay out of the news. steve, everybody but donald trump and sawn hannity knows that every time donald trump opens his mouth, he makes everything worse, and he makes the american people less safe. trump shouldn't speak anymore. and he certainly, steve, shouldn't have his son-in-law, jared kushner out there calling this a great success story. 60,000 americans dead. millions and millions of americans losing their jobs and their livelyhoods. we are on the precipice of a

looming great depression. and this elitist punk, jared kushner calls that a success story. we would all be better off if jared didn't speak and if donald trump didn't speak between now and november. >> well, the accusations that china didn't disclose enough about the outbreak have been widely reported since january. the woeflt "washington post" editorial board warned at the time they said china's secrecy was putting everyone at risk. likewise, foreign relations criticized the world health organization early response as weak saying they quote laundered china's image at the expense of their own credibility. joe walsh, there is some blowback here on the president and his focus on china. i know the criticism is there that he is looking to shift the blame. he is looking to get this -- the focus off of him and what his administration has and hasn't done. do you think looking into china, and the origins of this and perhaps lack of information

from -- do you think that's an appropriate step for him to be taking right now? >> yes. we should look into what china did. we should look into when this is all done how the world health organization behaved. but that's not donald trump's motivation. the one constant about donald trump, steve, is all he gives a damn about is donald trump. and he needs a boogieman. he needs somebody upon which to put the blame on this. >> can i ask you -- i think this is interesting. how do you balance that, then? if you believe his motives are wrong on this, motives are selfish, shifting the blame, motives are getting people to point the finger someplace else and yet china's record is not good on this, and it is worthy of having an investigation and perhaps -- how do you balance that? should it happen or not? >> yeah, it should, and it should be a bipartisan effort

that's separate from this president. steve, the problem here is, nobody can believe the president of the united states. he cannot be trusted. so when he says we are going to investigate china, we are going to investigate the world health organization, the vast majority of the american people do not trust his motives at all. so that's got to be taken out of his hands as well. >> a, i am curious -- -- noah, i know this is a subject you talked about. the united states, the relationship with china, where should it go from here? >> well, it seems inevitable that in 2021, swhoefr president will be managing -- whoever is president will be managing a more conflictual relationship with the people's republic. we know that for about three crucial weeks the centers were silenced, the people who were responsible for alerting the international community about this did not have the opportunity to do so. the w.h.o. was prisony to flawed and falsified die which is why half the rest was lulled into a

false sense of security ahead of this pandemic and why we are suffering from it now. that deserves to be adjudicated in the public, and the political sector is responsible for doing that. and the president is responsible for doing that. i share joe's concerns about the president's capacity for being truthful with the american public and his motives. nevertheless, we have one president at a time and the duty will fall upon him to investigate this serious, catastrophic world shattering failure on the part this international body and international organization. it is a two-way street. if we are going to talk about repatriating the manufacturing facilities that make ppe and certain pharmaceuticals in china -- china is dependent on the united states for for example, cancer therapies. this is the sort of thing that an interconnected world has allowed to happen. it has been mutually beneficial and you can't simply unravel that. to do so would be to spark diplomatic and military conflicts. not all out war but something much more tense in the south

china sea, that could spiral. it needs to be managed by cool heads with a firm understanding of how international relations happens. i am not sure this administration is capable of it. i am not sure the next administration will be capable of it. but somebody has to do it because the crisis will be upon us before we know it. >> thank you both for about us. coming up, another candidate for president. >> there are millions of americans who aren't represented by either donald trump or joe biden who aren't represented by the republicans or the democrats. and those millions of americans deserve a choice on the ballot. >> nast michigan congressman justin amash a former republican turned independent explaining why he is running as a libertarian -- trying to run as a libertarian candidate this november. he has got to get the nomination first. how many will there be? who will there be? what effect is a third going to

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we have been talking about trump versus biden. now we have news that justin amash, congressman from michigan, former republican, broke with the party last year. now looks like he is going try to run as a libertarian for president this year. also a possibly, a blast from the past, jesse ventura. remember him? the former independent governor.

he may run. we talk about the third party effect. remember, this is what the results looked like in 2016. you had third party candidates here. gary johnson was the libertarian. the former new mexico fworchor. jill stein in the green party. there were others here. they gobbled up a larger share of the vote than heard the patient candidates often do. and it allowed donald trump to win the presidency with only 46% of the popular vote. there were folks out there saying if he had to get to 50 he wouldn't have been able to do it. but with third party vote he was able to bring the vote down to something attainable for him. question, could it happen again if we get third party candidates in the mix? the opening in 2016 was this, how incredibly unpopular both donald trump and hillary clinton were. both of them had double digit

underwater numbers. this is the exit poll, favorable, unfavorable. trump was worse than clinton but neither one was good. you had never seen two general election nominees who were this unpopular. i think one of the things that won this election for trump in 2016 was this. 18% of voters on election day 2016 say they didn't like trump or clinton. they didn't like either major party candidate. that's almost one out of the every five voters who said they didn't like either. and here's how they voted. 47% of them nationally voted for donald trump, the folks who didn't like either candidate. 30% of them voted for clinton. they broke decidedly towards trump. nearly a quarter of them voted for third party candidates. this was the fuel for gary johnson and jill stein. folks who didn't like trump or clinton.

again, they broke decidedly for trump, and even then those that didn't vote for trump didn't vote for hillary clinton. seven out of ten of them stayed away from hillary clinton. in pennsylvania, michigan and wisconsin, the folks that didn't like either candidate went for trump or third party candidates. that hurt hillary clinton. the question for 2020 is will the candidates be as unpopular? will there be a chance for them to debt more than 30 points. in a national poll, trump is 10 points under water on the positive/negative. favorable/unfavorable. swing state polls are just a little bit better for biden right now. neither one is that popular. of the folks that don't like trump or don't like biden this is what our poll showed. how about that? that is a night and day

difference from what i just showed you in 2016. in 2016 if they didn't like trump and didn't like clinton they stayed away from clinton. now at least they don't like either trump or biden they are breaking to biden. if that keeps up it could make the difference. still ahead, president trump is ordering meat processing plants to stay open. unions are pushing back saying the orders put workers at unnecessary risk. one of those union leaders jones us next. don't go away. us next. don't go away. wow, that's... and now the progressive commercial halftime show, featuring smash mouth. ♪ hey now, you're an all star ♪ get your game on, go play thank you! goodnight! [ cheers and applause ] now enjoy the second half of the commercial! even renters can bundle and save! where did that come from? the kitchen. it was halftime.

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welcome back. as some states push ahead with plans to begin reopening parts of their economies, others are still struggling to contain outbreaks tied to meat processing plants. some counties within south dakota, eye, with a and nebraska, have become coronavirus hot spots with roughly 5,000 workers impacted and now at least 17 dead. also two dozen plant closures to date. all of this led the head of tyson food to declare earlier this week that the food supply

chain was breaking. now the president has signed an executive order invoking the defense production act and declaring meat processing plants to be, quote, critical infrastructure. this ensures that they will remain open during the pandemic. critics have accused plant owners of failing to provide adequate protection and information to their workers while some governors in states that have been forced to close meat processing facilities have said they are trying to balance worker protection and the protection of the supply chain. >> we are not going to tell food processing facilities to close, okay? that is not going to be something we in the state are going to be doing. we are working to keep them open because they are a critical part of our nation's food supply. >> it shows that they are a critical link in our food supply chain both from production to processing to in the retail shop. >> they are imperative to our food supply in this country. so i think that we need to keep them running. but we also need to protect people. >> and president trump insisted that under his order, workers

will be safe. >> we are going to have good form of protection. and through quarantine when we find somebody that's not -- they are going to be very careful. they are, as to who is going into the plant, and the quarantine is going to be very strong. and we are going the make people better when they have a problem. we are going to get them better. hopefully they are going to get better. >> for more, i am joined by mark perron, president of the united food and commercial workers international. thank you for joining us. so the workers that you represent have now been declared part of this country's critical infrastructure. what is their reaction? what have you been hearing from them about that? >> well, i think that they are fine with being part of the critical infrastructure. i think they always knew that anyway, steve. i think that the issue, however, is that on the front end of this pandemic, they were not given the ppe that they needed in

order to keep them safe and protected. nor were they allowed to be tested. we all know the challenges that we saw in the health care industry and in our first responders. and this union moved very quickly to include both grocery store, pharmacy workers as well as packing house and food processing workers listed as first responders. i -- i can't begin to tell you how significant that was. our employers in many cases tried to get the equipment and couldn't. and therefore, there is a problem. now i understand that the president says that what he is going do is he is going force the plants to remain open. i don't think he understands how they actually work, though. is that if you have 20% the work force that are out sick and we saw some significant numbers on your chart just earlier -- if 20% of the work force is out

sick, logistically, you can't open the plant. that is the problem. it is not that people don't want to work. it is just that the way the layout of the plant s it creates these obstacles. so here's what we are saying, can you keep plants open safely? yes, you can, if you provide layered ppe in the plant and make sure that the employers have access to the federal supplies so that they can get in the display chain like health care and emergency workers. we have to make sure that there is enforceable safety standards inside the plant that are uniform regardless of what company is doing it. we also need to make sure that workers get adequate sick leave so if in fact they are feeling sick they can take off, don't have to worry about necessarily infecting those workers in that plant. and the third thing -- or foured

thing they need is adequate, rapid testing both for the anti-bodies as well as the virus itself on a daily basis so that we know exactly who has the virus and who doesn't. we can do that if in fact we get on top of this. now signing a decree is not going to change things if we don't make sure that those workers are secure. you cannot have a secure food supply in this nation unless those workers have a secure location to go to work without the virus. >> so -- >> that's it in a nutshell. >> i want to ask you. you laid out what exactly it is you are looking for here, what exactly it is that your workers want to have in place to be working under this order. let me just ask you, the order has been issued now. if these things are not all in

place and these companies say we are back in business, workers, report for duty, what's going to happen? >> you are going to end up with more people that are going to be sick because if you are not doing the testing, okay, what will happen is that is that something either from outside the plant that has had some contact with somebody that's had the virus will go back into the plant being asymptomatic. they will ultimately come into contact with somebody else -- because these plants -- i hate the use this term but i am going to. they are like stationery cruise ships. everybody is close together. they are walking through the halls close together. they are on the lines close together. they are having lunch close together. it is a very tightly constructed work environment. so you are going to end up with more people sick. we are going to have some additional outbreaks. it is inevitable. you are going to see some rolling closures. it is not because the manufacturer or the company

doesn't want to stay open. it is not because the workers don't want to work. it is going to be how they ultimately have to deal with it because they don't have enough workers at that location because they are in the middle of the countryside. where are you going to come up with 5,000 people? >> mark perrone of the united food and commercial workers yoon. still ahead. tremaine lee takes us inside an ohio prison with one of the largest known outbreak of the coronavirus. we'll be right back. the 3:40 mid-shift migraine medicine. introducing ubrelvy™. it's the migraine medicine for anytime, anywhere a migraine attacks without worrying if it's too late or where you happen to be. one dose of ubrelvy™ can quickly stop a migraine in its tracks within two hours. many had pain relief in one hour. do not take with strong cyp3a4 inhibitors. few people had side effects,

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welcome back. nbc news obtained exclusive new video from inside the marian correction institution in ohio. that has the largest known covid infections in the united states. nearly 80%, 8-0% of inmates tested positive for the virus. trymaine lee. >> reporter: what we know is what prisoner advocates, inmates and families have been concerned about. their warning if covid-19 pushed into america's prisons and jails where we currently hold more than 2.3 million people, there would be a serious problem. we're seeing that play out in the conditions at the marian correctional facility in marian, ohio where upward of 80% of inmates have tested positive for

covid-19. that's 1,976 inmates, but it's not just those infected. there is a death toll. five inmates have died and one corrections officer. inmates inside the prison say the conditions are really troubling. now based on the reporting of mohammed and nbc news special gathering team, we did a great job of obtaining exclusive video that gives us a peek inside the walls to give us a sense what the inmates are going through. let's take a look. >> we cannot get away from each other. look in the background. do you see all of this? this is crazy. we just waiting to die in here. we just sitting ducks in here waiting to die. we cannot get away from each other at all. it's like this all day, every day. >> i want to know when columbus is going to hold somebody accountable for a situation that is clearly mismanaged.

>> you hear that inmate say that it feels like they are sitting ducks waiting to die. in conversations and interviews and more of these videos, the inmates say they feel not only vulnerable but they've been left to die. their allegations that when inmates say they do have symptoms, they are put in segregation or call it the hole. others say corrections officers haven't been given proper protective gear and they engage and interact with inmates. it's a tough situation few people inside know how to get out of but the despair and fear and concern is great. obviously, in a prison like this, a medium security prison, it's hard to segregate and move folks around. when you think about a scale, many people think there are few people in a cell. this is dorm style. with people who live within arm's length of each other and they also complain that they said they're not given proper hygiene products like soap. we talked to the state prison officials, they said we're doing

the absolute best we can. we segregate some inmates who have shown symptoms or are sick but limited in what we can and cannot do but trying our best. that situation in marian is concerning, those who advocate for prisoner rights, the only reason we know so many people tested positive here is because of mass testing. this might be the test of the iceberg. state by state, facility to facility and test these inmates, what then? this might be again the tip of the iceberg. steve? >> all right. msnbc trymaine lee with that report. thank you. in response to the inmate complaints documented here, the ohio department of rehabilitation and corrections told nbc news marin has increased the amount of cleaning supplies and disinfectant tabs g

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mental health to have, you know, the great american past time be seen. >> well, that was dr. anthony fauci today speaking with washington nationals first baseman ryan zimmerman about the prospects of baseball coming back this summer. major lea maj major league baseball is considering a plan that could bring it in late june or early july. it would be a little different than a normal season. teams might play about 100 gapes instead of 162 and fans would only be able to watch on television. there would be no one allowed in the stadiums during the games. instead of the traditional american and national teams, teams would be split in three ten-team divisions based on geography. you can decide if that's better or worse than a split season of 1981 and of course, no final decision is made or reported. that's one reported possibility but if it all works out or if something like it works out, there is at least the possibility baseball fans could

be able to watch a game again sometime in the near future except they would have peanuts and cracker jacks from home. thanks for being with us. don't go anywhere. "all in" with chris hayes is next. good evening from new york. i'm chris hayes. let's begin tonight amidst a conver sagts abosation everybode on. first principle is that total shelter in place lockdown is not a sustainable open-ended way to run american society. for any number of reasons, there is only so long we can do this. i say that as a journalist who is in contact all day every day with many sources, and also as a parent with school-aged children trying along with my wife to home school them every day. the current status quo cannot exist forever. we agree on that. that's principle one. principiple two is we're not gog back to the pr