letter over a tell-all work. the white house denies any role. we want to give you update. we hope huh a great week. thanks for joining me. and right now, keep it right here. on msnbc. good evening an additional 13 starts in new york began to reopen their economies now. 24 stars that are working to gradually lift restrictions, and ten more plan to file suit in the future. 15 states plan to keep the restrictions to place, and the district of columbia. dizzying, and county by county

within each other. and a vocal minority, all of the restrictions cannot end soon enough. since yesterday, hundreds of protesters have depended on michigan's capital, lansing. and the protestered entered the capitol and demanded to be on the white house floosh. gretchen whitmer has a new plan in place. it came from business owner as well. president trump said, the governor of michigan should give a little and put out the fire. these are very good people but they are angry. talk to them. take a deal. there is also new reporting from nbc news today that the government has laced orders for well over 100,000 new body bags to hold victims. the documents show that the task

force members remain worried about the insufficient tests, and had is not a black and white rebate. opening everybody, it's more about survival and balance. how to keep people alive and how to keep as many as possible from losing their jobs, their businesses, their savings. it's happening in red states, also in blue stays. states in colorado, today, much of the state, retail stores were given the green light to reopen with strict social distancing rules in place. and monday, business offices in colorado will be able to open at 50% capacity. there is a lot that is still not open in state. that includes bars, inperson dining. this is the start of one of the

more ambition reopening plans. i'm joined now by the governor jared polis. most of colorado, it sounds like the denver area, the restrictions to stay at home are in place. you talk about retail businesses opening up today with strict social distancing guidelines. how is it going? what is life like in colorado today? >> you know, i think it's also important to point out that in all the states that have stay at homes,ing retail stores were open in that period. pharmacies, grocery stores, convenient stores. what we have done in colorado is learned from the experience, what are the best practices that the stores that did well, decals on the floor where you wait in line, limiting traffic flow and applying it to the rest of retail that is open today.

much of colorado, it's another week in partes of the denver metro area. >> we have talked about with it states around the country that are beginning some form of reopening. i want to put up on the screen. the guidelines for states to enter a reopening phase. one of the guidelines, it involved cases, a downward trajectory, in a positive test rate in that period. i'm looking at the stats throughout for your state. the cases per day, 564 new cases a day. that is up from where it was two weeks guy. we were looking at that positive test rate. i'm not seeing declines there. and this is happening there, in and other states. when you look at the federal guidelines, not requirements, the guidelines and where your state is, why do you feel comfortable going forward? >> the data shows in colorado we

have a decline in cases. what we're doing is measuring more of them. we are picking up more of the cases. all of the case numbers that are going out there are huge under sames of how many people actually have covid-19. i think the national figure is just north of 1 million, most epidemiologists say the actual number is 2 million, 3 million. we are picking up a few more now. the actual infection rate is three, four five times higher than number of cases we have reported. >> the same in every state. >> you talk about another stat the here we take about all the time. testing. you talk about in colorado, being able to do, in month of may, getting to 5,000, 8,000, getting up to 10,000 tests a day. i was looking at the stats, the last couple days, the numbers, 1500, 2,000, the highest numbers, 400.

how do you get to 10,000 a day in colorado? >> the limits factors is not so much personnel. we are using the colorado national guard to testing. it's the personal protective equipment. it's really about the tests themselves. we have the lab capacity. but we don't have the viral reagents, and the e detection. we imported 100,000 from are south korea. we're on the ground and we have reached an agreement with with the federal government, and i talked with a major test supplier throughout may. i have great confidence we will be in the 5,000 to 10,000 tests a day range. and averagesing the upper end of that. >> you mentioned what is not in colorado, rest ranaurants are n open. there are other states beginning to allow in-person dining with

limited capacity. 50%. i'm curious how closely you are watching the stays and how will it impact your facet of reopening in colorado? >> very closely. we are watching all the measures, across the world. denmark that went back to school before many of them went back to work. that was almost two weeks go. other states that opened up bars and restaurants. we are working hard on the safety pro colds and a way that doesn't interfere with business. there is no date yet for those to go givlive. they will be based on the data of the future. i don't have a chris cal ball. >> i want to ask you too, this week, we talked the prt with the executive order to invoke the protection act. and part of the infrastructure, to order them to stay hope. this has been an issue in

colorado, huh a big outbreak there. what do you make of the president's order? do you think it's feasible to keep meat processing open in your state and elsewhere? >> the jbs meet facility was closed for about two weeks, and reopened. there wasn't testing on site. just a mile from the site, we are doing free testing. over 1,000 people have showed up in the last few days. some workers, family members. i made the case to the vice president as well. if we keep about keeping facilities online, specific to the facilities, it's really important. we can simply test folks and get everybody who is negative, 85% of the work force back to work the next day. if they have it, they should enter a quarantine order for 14

days. >> jared polis from colorado. good luck to you as you pursue a partial reopening. >> good look to you. another sign country is still behind the curve when it comes to testing. the is not reconvening monday, politico errors there are not enough tests to pro actively test all senators as the chamber comes back in session. joins me, dr. nyugen, and shannon pettipiece. dr. nyugen, i put it to you. there has been a debate about what the federal guidelines from dr. anthony fauci are to begin reopening and where the states actually are. he seemed confident that colorado was moving in the right direction on testing. the numbers i was looking at earlier, with was withn't as

clear looking at it. what is your sense of the readiness of at least some states in country to begin doing what colorado is doing? >> steve, i worry. i worry that we're reopening too soon before we get the numbers under control. and before we have the capabilities in place for us to actually test everyone and also figure out who they're exposed to. had is not a matter of time line. this is a matter of the cape tblties. we don't have the capabilities to do the widespread testing or have the public health infrastructure. every person who tests positive, we can identify who they have exposed to. if we don't have a true sense of the infections, how do we know e? i worry if we open too soon, we're going to end up having a second wave of infections that is worse than the first or we

make a difficult decision to shutdown states again. i'm sht sure what the tolerance of the american people e will be. >> we showed the message that the president put up on twitter, the protestors at the state capitol, showing support for them. and the president said that georgia was doing it too soon. is there a clear and consistent message this white house -- behind the scenes, not on twitter, but behind the scenes is delivers to the state on this? >> this is difficult for the administration. they really don't have any control over the governors. they can argue they have control when with it comes to public health vcrisis and closing thins and shutting things down. but they don't have legal authority when it comes to opening back up and when states do it with and when they do it

and the administration is obviously very eager. they have made it very clear. they want states to reopen. they are encouraging that. you know, they themselves, you hear them talk about life returning to normal and this being behind us for memorial day. and the same time they know a lot of the blame will fall on them. if there is a rebound, a second wave, states have to reclose, it's unavoidable at this point for some of the blame to come to the federal government and for the federal government to mount the response again. it's a difficult position they are in. i think the white house is airing on the side of pushing everyone to reopen and get the economy going sooner rather than later. >> dr. wen, you shared your concerns with some of the states and the actions they are taking. i'm curious, you heard the governor in colorado say he is watching the states closely. we are watching colorado, florida, georgia closely.

what would -- when with you look at the data on this, two what would success this month look like in those states? can you set criteria that we can look at to decide, did it work in colorado, georgia, minnesota, so on? >> yeah, it's a really good question. i wish i could say, well, look at this particular metric. that is going to tell us whether this reopen onning was just on type or was too soon. here's the problem b though. there is a significant lack of time we have to take into consideration. there is a lack of time between when people are exposed to the virus and when they get sick. up to 14 days for the incubation period. and the time when they get sick and really sick and when they end up succumbing, some of them to covid-19, it might be with weeks to months before we really see a rise in hospitalizations and deaths and you know, when things reopen, it doesn't mean

that everyone is going to go in public. some people will not go immediately. so i worry we are drawing the wrong lessons. if we don see an immediate increase, i don't want other states to say, it was son't so , and i think we had proceed with an abundance of caution and those who can should continue to stay at home and shelter in place. >> thanks to both of you for being was. appreciate that. up next a big divide between red states and blue stays how and when to reopen their states? is it much of a divide? stay was. >> we're so excited that everybody wants to come back. but it's very hard to navigate that. >> i know that we're going to take precautions like we did before. to be sanitizing more. god's got us. d's got us pills? flonase sensimist.

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we have been talking about it this week, the president deciding not if extend the federal social distancing guidelines. this is up to the states now to decide, what they want to do, do they want to start reopeninging? do they want to put a plan in place, or stay sheltered in place right now? different situatidecisions. check it out. this a big collection of states now, you see, these are states that have begun, they are not doing it the same. they have begun loosening some of the restrictions and reopening. let my give you an an example. georgia, the most ambitious and aggressive, sorry, the second one, this is category, states beginning to do it soon. georgia, again this is probably one of the most ambitious reopenings we are seeing here. retail and restaurants. not seeing it in a lot of

states. restaurants are allowed to open. they have to have social distancing in place in these restaurants. they can't do it -- cram everybody today. social distancing rules in place. in-person dining can happen in georgia, jgyms and movie theates can open. and georgia is one of the most ambitious, that is why. not everything is open. bars, amusement parks, concert venn news, those are not open. we had mores in georgia say they are not happy with it. and the death rate in georgia, by the way, it's 16th in the country right now. out of 50 starts, the district of columbia, the most ambitious.

florida, you take a look. minnesota, boy, i'm on a roll here. minnesota, a state doing a partial reopening. when it comes to reopening, it's the opposite of georgia, in the category of states doing reopening, this is one of the least ambitious you are seeing. what you are seeing is industrial, and offices, they are not must customer facing mfsh with strict social distancing. retail stores, you've to do curbside, changed the rule in minnesota, you're not going into the store, you can pick it up outside. restaurants, pickup, delivery only. no one is going inside. bars are closed. minnesota like georgia are trying to do reopening. you see the plain is scaled back from georgia. i want to mention florida. there ito is. florida. a state doing this monday. here what you see in florida, this is another twist. florida saysot look, three counties here, three giant

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welcome back. as we were just discussing, a number of republican and democratic governors have rolled out plans to begin reopening their states.oklahoma, the goved the statewide stay at home directive, has given mayors the option of having their own orders in effect. in california, gavin newsom may lift them as long as they exercise prudence. one warns there may be dangers in a piecemeal approach, it could make it more difficult to enforce social distancing in cities, more likely novel coronavirus will continue its spread to the countryside. joining me, mayor of norman,

oklahoma, bria clark. mayors, thank you for joining me. in norman, oklahoma, mayor, your governor gave you the option, you chose to let retail, restaurants open with some pretty strict restrictions, retail and restaurants can open, soccer fields, baseball diamonds can open, golf courses. looks like i checked the weather on my phone, 85 and sunny in norman. what's it like on the streets? >> well, i have had many residents report today that people are out and about and unfortunately they're not wearing facial coverings that they were a day ago, seems like, and this is what we worried about, relaxing of orders statewide and even in the city, people flipped a switch thinking things are back to normal. i tried to stress many times they're nowhere near normal, we have to work on defining a new

normal in our community at this time. >> you raise a point of concern, takes me to the next question. you have the power. not every mayor has this power. you have the power to say we're not going to do that, not reopening this, not reopening that. would not wearing masks cause you to pull back some openings? >> i'm sorry, could you finish the question again, please, it broke up a little bit. it is windy here, as well as being 85 degrees. >> wind power is a big issue in oklahoma. you're concerned people aren't adhering to masks, would that cause you, is that a thing that would cause you to pull back some openings, relaxed rules? >> all decisions are data driven, we are watching numbers closely each day, not just hospital capacity, three day rolling average of new reported cases, so what we're looking at again is the data. we're going to do what we can to push facial coverings. going to start a promotional

campaign with the city staff, city council, police and fire, even going to be requesting mayors around oklahoma join me in my mayors mask up campaign. we need to walk the walk as much as we talk the talk. hopefully we can continue to drive home the importance of social distancing and facial covering as we continue to try to flatten the curve, stop spread of the coronavirus in norman. >> let's go from oklahoma to oakland, california. the bay area. mayor shaf. your situation in california is interesting. one of the first places we saw coronavirus cases was on the west coast. yet now when you look at the data, the death rate in california is lower, significantly lower than some states we're talking about that are beginning to reopen, yet california is not there now. and yet i think we mentioned this, your state's governor, gavin newsom might be days away from beginning the process. does that sound right to you,

like the time line you have in mind? >> governor newsom has been respectful of regional differences, he has always said that more restrictive orders will be upheld, and in the bay area we were the first region in the entire country to impose shelter in place, two days before the governor imposed it for the rest of california, and we have seen that that has saved thousands of lives. the bay area is a large region, 7.5 million people. so while we do look forward to some reopening, this is a moment where we have to be guided by the professional opinions of our health care experts and not politics and that is where we're going to be going. the mayors of the big cities in california, we are in constant communication. of course, we all want people to get back to work, we want our

economy to get back up again, but never at the expense of human life. >> i guess that does raise the question that i mean is that the standard that you would apply then for reopening when this is eradicated, when there's a vaccine? to get to no human life, you have to get there, right? >> no. we're doing the same type of data tracing that mayor clark is. we're looking at hospital capacity, we're looking at new cases, are we increasing or have we flattened that curve, and are we testing at sufficient levels, and do we have contact tracing in place, and i will say i am feeling very optimistic that we have gotten to a place where those resources are now available, so i do expect to see a very cautious, thoughtful,

responsible reopening of low risk and high reward activities in the bay area and greater california. just this week we're allowing construction to start again which had been prohibited in the bay area, although not in parts of california outside the bay area. so again, the bay area has taken a little more of a cautious approach. but boy, have we been rewarded for it because we're seeing far fewer cases, far fewer deaths than areas like riverside and los angeles. soy tru so i trust that data. that's how we're proceeding. >> mayor schaaf and good luck to you both. up next, joe biden responding to the recent allegation of sexual assault.

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welcome back. former vice president and apparent democratic nominee joe biden spoke publicly today for the first time about an allegation of sexual assault from a former senate staffer saying, quote, it never happened. the former senate aide, tara reade, says biden pinned her against the wall, sexual assaulted her in a senate office building hallway. she told nbc news she filed a formal personnel complaint alleging harassment in biden's office, didn't allege sexual assault at the time. in an exclusive interview with "morning joe," biden told mika brzezinski he believes all women should be heard and claims investigated, but reiterated his campaign's assertion that the allegation is false. here's a portion of that interview. >> would you please go on the record with the american people.

did you sexually assault tara reade? >> no. it is not true. i'm saying unequivocally it never, never happened. and it didn't. it never happened. >> do you remember her? do you remember any types of complaints that she might have made? >> i don't remember any type of complaint she may have made. it was 27 years ago and i don't remember nor does anyone else that i'm aware of, and the fact is that i don't remember, i don't remember any complaint having been made. >> why limit this only to tara reade, why not release any complaints that have been made against you during your senate career? >> i'm prepared to do that. the best of my knowledge there have been no complaints made against me in terms of my senate career and office. this is an open book. there's nothing for me to hide. nothing at all. >> you were unequivocal,

mr. vice president, back in 2018 during the kavanaugh controversy and hearings, said women should be believed. >> look, from the very beginning i said believing women means taking the woman's claims seriously when she steps forward and then vet it, look into it. that's true in this case as well. women have a right to be heard and the press should rigorously investigate claims they make. i will always uphold that. in the end, the truth matters. in this case, the truth is the claims are false. i'm not going to question her motive or get into that at all. i don't know why she's saying this, i don't know why after 27 years all of a sudden this gets raised, i don't understand it, but i'm not going to go in and question her motive or attack her. she has a right to say whatever she wants to say, but i have a right to say look at the facts, check it out. >> nbc news reached out to reade

after the "morning joe" interview this morning but haven't heard back. reade's public accounting of the allegation has changed over time. last year she told a california newspaper biden had engaged in inappropriate but not sexual touching, did not allege sexual assault at that time. reade subsequently said she didn't feel comfortable saying it then. donald trump has been accused by more than a dozen women ranging from harassment to assault, the president denies. joining me, ali vitale, reporting on the allegations. thank you for joining us. in terms of the complaint, biden says any complaint tara reade filed would be now filed at the

national archives, he awould lie it released if there. i understand there's some confusion whether any complaint would be there. take us through what we know about the complaint, if there is one. >> well, steve, this is really the quest for a paper trail, and if a paper trail exists because just a few hours ago, biden put a letter out to the secretary of the senate saying he would like these records to be found and released if they exist and all of this stems from tara reade telling me that she filed a complaint with the senate office in 1993. now biden is saying he thinks that record, if it exists, because it is a personnel record, would be in the national archives as opposed to university of delaware which has a trove of documents related to biden's time in public life. the thing is, there's a difference between these two entities. biden is calling on national archives to release the documents if they exist.

on the other hand, the documents that are at the university of delaware are sealed for two years after biden leaves public life. he sort of explained that this morning with mika brzezinski, saying in those documents at the university of delaware are things like speeches he has given over the years, conversations and public statements he made on policy. he says releasing those things in the context of a campaign would mean being taken out of context, so he wants those things to remain sealed. i think all of this comes against the backdrop of transparency. the scars are still there for democrats after hillary clinton was asked to give more emails, more things from time at the state department and other points of her life, those scars are still fresh. then the reality of president donald trump who has been accused of things ranging from harassment to assault. as we go down the road with this, the question is as it becomes more politicized, how

will this manifest by republicans and democrats both. >> we mention nbc news, you reached out to tara reade to see if she had further response, haven't heard anything. are we expecting at all, do you know if she's expected to address this again, expected to make a response in any way? >> well, certainly i have reached out to her and i have not heard back. we asked her to do an interview with us as well. there has been reporting she will be doing an interview with another outlet, we're not sure when that will be happening. i think the thing that's notable is the way we have seen democrats and joe biden both have to respond to the allegation. it sort of forces a redefining or specifying when you talk of what it means to believe women. over the course of reporting with mike memoli, we heard from the biden campaign, something the vice president echoed this morning, that he believes women's stories should be put

out there and also vetted. in the case of this one, he says it is untrue. at the same time, you look at what other democratic women specifically said when asked about this, many of them say they tend to believe joe biden in this instance. but for many democrats it does demand a reckoning what it means to believe women, in this case we're watching a lot of democrats thread that needle specifying these claims should be aired in public, that tara reade has a right to talk about her story in a public forum. at the same time, many democrats are going the next step, saying in this instance they believe it is vetted and investigated by reporters and that it is untrue as joe biden says. >> ali vitale who has been covering this story will continue to. thank you for joining us. appreciate it. still ahead, more on the presidential race including biden's search for a running mate, president trump trying to express optimism on an economic rebound. stay with us. conomic rebound. stay with us it's the next one. you always drive this slow?

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you know, we're in a pivotal moment in our country with candidates charged with sexual assault. what they need to do is treat them with the seriousness that they deserve, treat allegations seriously, have them investigated. go directly to the people and address them and call for fall transparency which vice president biden did. we need full transparency.

>> michelle obama, now the president of times up, the organization aiming to prevent sexual harassment in the workplace. joe biden's denial of a former staffer's claim of sexual assault 27 years ago comes with the presidential election six months away. for more, joined by michelle goldburg, michael steele, former chairman of republican national committee, christine rosen, senior writer for commentary magazine. thanks for being with us. appreciate it. michelle, let me start with you. you had written about the accusations against biden a few weeks ago as they were starting to get attention, you wrote them personally, left with doubt, doubt about biden, doubt about charges against him. you heard biden today. is that still how you feel about this or has your view of it changed at all? >> no, that is still how i feel about it, you know, i think to some extent it depends on the time of day, right?

there's obviously been corroboration of her story in terms of her neighbor saying she was told the story before, on the other hand, the neighbor came forward at tara reade's urging after being reminded of the story by tara reade. she told the reporter she had forgotten it until tara reade reminded her of it. i think you can continue to make the case either way. i think it means a lot that biden called for any records that the senate has to be released and i think he did something important today which was to deny it unequivocally without attacking her character, without sort of playing what about-ism, and i think he threaded a difficult needle saying that this woman is not telling the truth about me

without really attacking her character in any way. >> michael, i want to ask about a piece of it michelle just raised, and that is the records and what joe biden is saying. he says he would like any record of the complaint she says she filed in 1993 to be released. he said go through the national archives, there's some question there about what they have, whether they have anything. then there's a question of his papers at the university of delaware. >> right. >> and you heard from ali vitale explain what his folks are saying is there's all sorts of documents totally unrelated to this in there, no politician released this kind of thing when they're active. the case being made here for transparency, you get an independent person to go through the delaware records from the time tara reade was in office, i think about nine months, and if there's anything related to tara reade, bring that out. is it a problem for biden he is

not embracing that kind of transparency? >> not yet. you know, i think that as was just expressed, the vice president came out today in the most forthright manner he could matter in a very difficult position, very narcotic lrow la had to walk today and he did by in large well with that. with respect to the university documents, the inference, not the facts but the inference, their speeches, their memos, their documents related to the business of the senate and the business of the senator that have nothing to do with personnel engagements. that's where i think at some point to your point that an independent individual or group would go in and go through those documents just to make certain that no staff or personnel

related issues or documents were corresponded with or noted in some form in the documents just to make it clear that yes, i am being transparent as i've told you, what you're looking for is not here. it's in the senate archives or the national archives and not over here. so i think he may move to that point, but not just yet. >> christine, i want to bring you in on an argument you're making. you're saying this allegation against biden and the way it's processed in our politics gets to a double standard. you're saying you believe biden is due and is owed the presumption of innocence but that biden and his allies are applying a standard here that they have not always applied. explain what you're arguing there. >> well, look, i think like anyone accused of a serious crime, joe biden deserves due process and a presumption of

innocence that is not the standard that's been applied by advocates in cases like brett kavanaugh but on college campuses for example, when joe biden was vice president, the joe biden administration expanded title nine regulations on sexual assault on campus and an after effect, many young men accused of sexual assault were not given due process, not allowed to confront accusers. i want to know from joe biden, look, i'll presume his innocence but i want to know if his standard has change and if it has, why aren't his sure sure gets, he's sending women out to argue his case and say they believe him. they look like hypocrites unless he defines what this standard should be. >> michelle, i'm curious about that. the argument is being made out there that this is a moment, ala it was mentioned in the last segment, democrats that embraced

the me too when the brett kavanaugh and allegation about his teenage years. this is a moment for democrats to reconsider the standards they are applying in these cases and whether they've applied, unnecessarily applied them unfairly in the past. do you agree? >> no. i think they are applying standards to themselves they would never dare apply to anyone else. i've seen a lot of people trying to equate this with the brett kavanaugh case, and part of the difficulty in talking about this is that i, like i think most people that supported the me, too movement don't want to go through a point by point discussion of why one accuser seems more credible or why one case seems to have more backing than another. i will say that if christine bla blasey-ford and i'm not saying i

don't believe to ara reade, if e ever tweeted out before going public, timing dot, dot, dot, wait for it, ticktock there would have been no kavanaugh hearings. again, let's remember that what christine blasey ford, the fbi interview witnesses that she had identified. they weren't saying everything she said should be taken on faith and should be taken on faith based on accounts in the media, they were asking for the fullest possible airing. >> this is a good discussion. i wish we had time to continue but there is more i want to ask but for now, thank you-all being

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the champions ♪ ♪ no time for losers because you are the champions ♪ >> thanks for being with us and don't go anywhere "all in with chris hayes" is next. good evening from new york. i'm chris hayes. it's may 1st and another month of this pandemic with another month behind us, utterly wasted by the trump administration. i should be clear, not wasted by us, the american people who have completely and totally up ended our lives at tremendous sacrifice to collectively buy our government the time to put in place the necessary elements to start to reopen, and get back to some kind of normal while crucially keeping the virus under control. the government, federal government, the trump