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follow. >> hand sanitizer. you had to have a mask to go into skechers. >> defiance on the streets and on the beach. what prompted this scene? will it be worse in the fall? the potential resurgence of covid? and what to make of jared kushner saying this is a great success story. a live look at philadelphia, pennsylvania. they are beginning a partial reopening. things like golf courses and marinas and beyond that most nonessential businesses remain closed. such is the case right across the delaware river in the state of new jersey. pennsylvania state wide stay-at-home order remains in place until next friday. let's get to the latest facts for you. as of this morning, there are 1.1 million cases of coronavirus across this country. more than 64,000, nearly 65,000 people have died. several states across the
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country are open for business. iowa, utah, wyoming, and maine among the latest to ease stay-at-home orders while implementing some new restrictions. stores, restaurants, movie theaters at 25% capacity in texas. and fitness centers checking the temperatures of people at the door. by monday, two dozen states home to 146 million people will start lifting restrictions. meantime, 900 workers at a tyson plant in indiana tested positive for coronavirus. and according to the county health department, 890 employees tested positive so far. that is 40% of that workforce. hundreds still need to be screened. the plant halted operations in april but plans on resuming limited production next week. the fda granted emergency use to the drug remdesivir making it the first medication backed by early clinical data to
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be made available to combat covid-19. it will be used to treat the most severely ill coronavirus patients. gilead, which makes the drug, said millions of treatments may be available by the end of the year. developing today, the white house blocked dr. anthony fauci from testifying before the house appropriations committee about the administration's response to the coronavirus. however, the white house says they will law dr. fauci to testify to a senate health committee hearing that will take place later this month. the latest now from new york. that's where the state has increased testing and the number of cases still continues to rise. governor andrew cuomo said the high number of new hospital admissions remains at about 1,000 per day despite the stay-at-home order. adding systems are not in place for the reopening in schools. >> how do you operate a school that is socially distanced with masks, without gatherings, a
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public transportation system that has a lower number of students on it? how would you get that plan up and running? we don't think it's possible to do that in a way that would keep our children and students and educators safe. so we're going to have the schools remain closed for the rest of the year. we're going to continue the distance learning. >> msnbc cory coffin is joining me from queens. with a good morning to you. you have workers dealing with food supply disruptions. you're at a distribution center. what are folks there doing to help? >> reporter: yeah. you can see the work already beginning this morning, alex. the trucks have pulled up and pallets coming out. the work starts early every morning and goes late into the night, managers tell me. folks are working 24 hours a
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day. that need especially great right now with schools not coming back in session. you know that a lot of kids do rely on their nutritional supply from schools. with them being out, the families will have so much of a greater need in addition to parents not working right now. so this is a very difficult time. taxi drivers and limo drivers are able to get in on this. they're able to help out, deliver food and get a little bit of a stipend. because of course they lost much of their jobs as well. up to 11,000 cabs and taxis helping out. they wait a couple hours in time to get the food and to be able to make their deliveries. we spoke with one of them this morning. >> we are happy what we are doing and what the city does for them. that's a wonderful feeling, you know? so a lot of them, they are not able to go out and get their own stuff. so it's good for us. >> it's a win-win. you're able to help people who have -- who need meals, but you
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are also able to continue on with the job and continue to get paid. >> that's part of it, yes. but the main idea, to help others, you know? we all suffer. so it's time to share, you know? >> reporter: and that is right. the time is here to pull out what you can and do what you can can. he also told me he had four friends pass away from covid-19. so this hits directly to him. and he is the wayne bread winner in his family. so he keeps going for his family as well. alex, we know that 7 million meals have been delivered through this recreational center. it has now been made into a distribution center in the last five weeks they have been operational. the weather is just glorious this weekend. this would normally be full for people coming out for different activities, now coming out for a different reason. >> cori coffin from queens. all new jersey parks are now
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reopened to the public. governor murphy says this will be a huge test for residents. park police will be enforcing the social distancing guidelines. let's go to gary live at a park in newark. what has been the reaction from the locals? the parks reopened as cori was saying, on this beautiful saturday. businesses, what are they saying? >> reporter: good morning, alex. that's right. new jersey state parks, golf courses and forests all across the 21 counties are now open. that means folks can go hunting, hiking, bike, jogging. they can walk around, whatever they please to do. of course no bathroom facilities will be open at these locations and no recreational facilities. basketball courts will not be open, tennis courts will not be open. baseball diamonds will not be open. they tell me phones are ringing off the hook from folks looking
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to have tee times and looking to play more golf. governor murphy on thursday talked about this being a huge test for folks all over new jersey. and they want to encourage their social distancing. here's what he had to say on thursday. >> but if we see what we saw, and this was extremely troubling, over the first weekend in april when we had good weather and we closed the parks after that, we saw a lot of the so-called knucklehead behavior with people ignoring social distancing. and if we see that again, we will not hesitate -- and i don't say this with any joy -- to reclose the parks. >> reporter: so parks are the first step in the governor's plan to reopen new jersey. he commissioned a 21-person task force, which includes ben bernanke, richard trumca. i'm going to pan out and let david take a look behind me.
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there's been a few folks walking, running, jogging across the park. i'm no al roker, but it looks like it is going to be a beautiful day with temperatures in the 60s and 70s out here in new jersey, alex. >> that was funny. golfers can only putt into a paper cup for as long inside the house. gary, thank you very much. dr. sun, good to see you. dr. fauci expressed concern about reopening. are you concerned about this? >> i'm actually doing okay now now that patient volumes are down. so we're going to be okay for anything because that's what we signed up for. but it does concern me that there is an increase in risk any time you go outside during a pandemic without any working
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proven cure or vaccine. so you have to take responsibility for your actions. i will take care of the second and third wave. but you have to own the decision if you go outside, if you were to get infected and bring it back home to your family or make more patients that we have to see in the emergency room. >> give me your response to those who say, and among them of whom i've spoken, i'm tired of wearing a mask. i said well, if you don't want to do it for yourself, maybe do it for yourself. how concerned are you about the effects of covid-19 reinfecting people, more people because things have become emotionally and mentally lax. >> it happens. this reinfection is a possibility. i cannot rule that out. while unlikely if you have antibodies, it is possible given
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the fact we know so little about this virus. what if you get reinfected and influenza a, b, or other viruses. you are doubly infected. you become more contagious with things that can infect more people. if you decide to not wear a mask, part of me that says i can't tell you what to do but you have no right to infect my family and friends that will become my patient when you go outside. that is a consequence you must own if you are to go out and infect other people. >> there is a minnesota study that says coronavirus cases could surge in the fall and virus concerns could last up to two years, much like the spanish flu in 1918. dr. fauci talked about a possible second wave calling it inevitable. do you agree? how bad do you think it can be? >> remember the flu season? that was seven months. new york has long winters.
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seven months is our flu season. that was 730,000 deaths in 7 months. now, what we had was 63,000, 70,000 deaths in six to seven weeks. that is four years of medical school in four months. you put that on top of flu season, if we don't have a vaccine for covid-19, it's never going to go away. when people get worse and they are infecting themselves with the flu, they are going to infect another virus that goes with it. it is not like covid steps back and said, all right, flu, go right ahead. we will be doing two things at once. i mean, that's what we signed up for. but please make my life a little easier this fall. >> have you just articulated the argument to nay-sayers to those who say, look, the flu kills 70,000 a year. here we are getting the same numbers. you just talked about the time frame. is that what helps disprove the
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naysayers who say this is like the flu. >> look at the count. 63,000 deaths in six to seven weeks. we had it in six to seven months of the flu. that is four years of medical school in four months. your brain will explode if you try to learn four years of medical school in four months. mcdonald's makes billions of dollars every year. imagine walking up and saying i want 50,000 burgers today right now. that is a drop in the bucket compared to 5 billion. if you do that in one day, that mcdonald's chain will collapse. >> dr. calvin sun putting things in the right perspective for us. stay healthy. the battle over the beach. why things are so heated in california. later, joe biden responds to a sexual assault claim made by a former senate staffer. the impact this could have on his campaign ahead. aign ahead in this time of social distancing,
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breaking news. kim jong-un seen for the first time in 20 days amid rumors about his health. state media releasing pictures of him at a ribbon-cutting. he was there with his sister, who many believe would take over were her brother to some day be unable to rule. speculation swirled after kim missed the april 15th birthday celebration for his late grandfather, the country's most important holiday, by the way. no explanation was given for his absence. nbc has yet to verify the images. meantime, back here in the u.s., beaches in orange county are closed this morning. this comes despite protests you saw yesterday. that is huntington beach. hundreds if not thousands rallying against the order made by governor gavin newsom. joining me now from huntington beach is erin mclaughlin. with a good morning to you.
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okay. it's dark. it's early. we wouldn't expect people to be flaunting any disregard at this point. but what's the sentiment there, erin? >> reporter: well, people here, alex, want to see these beaches open. on friday, huntington beach took the state of california to court in an effort to do just that. people hearsay closing the beaches because of covid-19 is a step too far. friday in orange county, california, defiance on the streets and on the beach. >> let the people surf, hang out at the beach. >> it's b.s. >> reporter: huntington is one of two orange county towns taking legal actions. this after governor newsom singled out the county. his response. >> we see the images we saw last weekend and concentration of
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thousands of people, we could start to see a spread again. >> reporter: early friday, the beach still busy. this is not what a closed beach looks like. there are people in the water. there's people walking along the water. there's people sun bathing. police tell us they are asking people to leave, they're not telling them. everyone we talked to insist the governor is overreacting. they are tweet to go show the crowds weren't that bad. >> people need mental health. they need physical health. that will be at the beach, outdoors. >> reporter: they voted to take the state to court. orange county's infections are going up >> we need to go back to work. with he need to get back to real life. >> reporter: how do you do that when your numbers aren't going down. >> the numbers aren't going down rapidly enough. >> reporter: they are going up, the last i checked. >> so is the flu. with he can't live in a risk-free world. >> reporter: in florida, like california, several beaches closed. but clearwater, infamous for
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spring beach images, set to reopen monday. on friday in texas, state beaches back open. >> it's nice to get out and see people again. >> reporter: the tiny county of modoc announced its open for business. on friday, a california superior court judge ruled in favor of the state. these beaches remain closed for now. the next hearing is may 11th. alex? >> we'll see if anybody shows you behind you. let's turn now to georgia, everyone, one of the first states to start easing its stay-at-home orders. so with a good morning to you, blain, what's been the reaction there so far? >> reporter: alex, good morning to you. i spent the better part of the last two weeks or so talking to business owners, shoppers, people who are deciding to go out, who are excited to get back to business and others who say
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it's happening far too soon. so it is split down the middle. this is lennox square, one of the busiest malls in metro atlanta. retailers are hoping to bring back energy once they open their doors on monday. for much of the country it's the first weekend in a while like this. many stores open and lockdowns increasingly lifted. >> i'm just so happy that we're getting to the start of the end of this. >> reporter: across the country, 34 states are either loosening restrictions or announced plans to do so. among the most recent, texas. where restaurants are welcoming hungry customers with limitations. >> you will get a good meal. you will stay healthy. we are practicing everything for the good health of everyone. >> reporter: a similar story in oklahoma. morgan chess sky is there. >> reporter: it is official. all nonessential businesses can
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reopen in oklahoma. not everyone is choosing to do so. here at stella italian cuisine, they are only opening up outdoor dining. they are still trying to find a way to coexist with the deadly virus. >> in alabama, people are lining up not to shop but to show up for court. with county courthouses now open for business. this weekend,s dozens of malls will once again open their doors to mixed reaction from shoppers. >> i think we're all anxious to get out for really any reason. >> reporter: i see what's going on every day at the hospitals. so, yeah, i think we need to just give a little time. >> reporter: simon property group, the biggest mall owner in america, will open 49 malls and outlets in 10 states by monday. offering gloves and masks to shoppers and implementing increased social distancing guidelines. elsewhere, the call to remove restrictions is growing louder in ohio and indiana protesters took to the streets to demand
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local leaders end shelter in place mandates. what is it like to go in a store again and resume normal activity? >> it almost feels freeing to me. i have been home with a little one. and he's been going to work. >> reporter: kaley says she works at a mall that opens monday and she does not look forward to going back. >> it is scary just because people are risking their health just to open a store that don't really need to be opened right now. >> reporter: alex, a number of stores say they are taking precautions to protect the shopper and employee. at simon malls across the country, you'll see some of the more common areas taped off like the children's play space or water fountain. in the food courts they are getting rid of the reusable trays. they will have masks and hand sanitizer for anybody who wants it. >> i guess that empty parking lot not for long.
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blayne alexander, thank you so much. now to france where they look to lift the strict lockdown in the coming weeks. a contact tracing app is part of the strategy. helena humphrey. with a welcome to you. this app is am pweurbgs. it is raising privacy concerns. what more do we know? >> reporter: hi, alex. many privacy concerns of this development over this app. nevertheless, we understand coders are working around the clock to make sure this french governmental app called stop view kid is ready for the lifting of lockdown may 11th. the concerns coming from outside france, from the united states, google and apple over health authorities intention to store information on a centralized server. left wing leader asking the question what will happen to
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that data once the coronavirus pandemic is over? now, france is a liberty-loving color. as such concerns coming from, for example, from etienne, a data production lawyer. he thought it would be a hard sell. take a listen. >> i'm afraid you will not be successful and it's a lost chance, i would say. i hope i'm wrong. but french people don't trust the communication from the government about the availability of masks and gloves. >> reporter: as you just heard, public trust will be key. one thing you should know is they require 40% of the population to download them, to use them, and have their bluetooth and geo location on at all times, something that could be a hard sell. and remember as well france is
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around two to three weeks ahead of the united states when it comes to measures to control this outbreak. so any debate happening here in europe could come to the united states in the coming weeks where critics are already watching on and asking the question as to whether such apps could pose a violation to constitutional rights. alex? >> yeah. point well ten, helena. people have to opt to use it to be effective at all. thank you so much, helena humphrey. so many people are going hungry right now. a restaurant owner in mississippi is offering a life line to some, though. we will tell you his story. and ali velshi talks about how the covid pandemic changed the definition of essential worker. r when the murray's started using gain ultra flings...
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more th more than 160,000 in the u.s. recovered. more than 6 million tests srs administered. the net will return monday and there will be testing for all 100 lawmakers. health and human secretary alex azar said he was sending about 1,000 tests and three machines to the senate to get back to work. in new mexico, one town secured the approval to blockade borders in an effort to slow the spread of covid-19. all roads into the city of gallup are closed. residents must remain at home unless there is an emergency. mckinley county has 30% of the state's total cases. in maine, a restaurant loses license after open to go big crowds defying state orders
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until the end of the month. sunday river brewing went on with the original opening date of may 1st set before the governor announced they would all open may 31st. he could face six months in jail and $1,000 fine. on the front page of the los angeles times showing tense moments around california between law enforcement and protesters on the state's economy. and the main headline on dallas "morning news", a cautious reopening. check out the photo at a reopened restaurant. the wait staff wearing masks and diners are not. a poll shows voters support stay-at-home orders with counterprotesters saying closures remain in place until it is safe. the front page of the "washington post", protests against covid-19 rules gain
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momentum. right next to that, states are reopening. cities are not. meantime, joe biden, the parent democratic nominee for president, responding for the first time to allegations that he sexual assaulting a staffer in 199 3. a colleague geoff bennett has more on that for us. good morning to you, some i friend. what has joe biden been saying on this? >> reporter: good morning, alex. for weeks, as you know, many democrats had urged joe biden to issue a more forceful response to that sexual assault accusation. now he has done just that. he has flatly and emphatically denying the allegation that dates back nearly 30 years. >> branding a new sraovaccine aspiration warp speed, clinical trials will begin on 14 potential vaccines. fast tracking a process that may produce a patient ready vaccine as early as january. no guarantees.
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>> reporter: that of course was the story done by my colleague kelly o'donnell. i'm told we have the correct package now, and i think we can play it. >> actually, i'm getting from our executive producer that the tape is not quite ready, geoff. i'm sorry about that. but give me the synopsis version of all that joe biden said. look, i, along with a lot of other people in this country, watched joe biden's interview. it went on for 20 minutes with our colleague mika brzezinski yesterday. but nuts and bolts what are the big takeaways for you? >> reporter: he flatly denied the allegations. he did not remember tara reade. he brought it up in a virtual fund-raiser with supporters. he said i'm not concerned about what they may not find because i know the truth of the matter. i know this claim has no merit.
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but as a candidate for president, i'm accountable to the american people. you may wonder why this allegation is coming forward now given he has been a fixture for decades really. nbc news reached out to the man who vetted him for being the vice president for barack obama. they found no evidence of misconduct of any type on joe biden's part. that said yesterday, biden formally requested the secretary of the senate to look for any complaint, any record that tara reade speaks of. so far there has been nothing, alex. >> the person you mentioned to help joe biden for the v.p. position 12 years ago, did tara reade name come up during that at all? the name tara reade?
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>> reporter: no our reporting does not suggest that. mr. jeffers said there was no evidence of misconduct and reade's allegation did not surfa surface. >> our apologies for not getting to that package you so perfectly prepared for us. what is your reaction to biden's response, his handling of these charges? do you think he's put this issue to rest, beth, or has it raised more questions? what's your take? >> well, as geoff said, he denied the allegations and said the incident tara reade has spoken of did not happen. it was a tough interview formica brzezinski. joe biden stood his ground. the campaign would like to think this is all behind them but clearly it is not going to be. probably one interview is not going to suffice. he did speak again to our colleagues reverend al sharpton
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that will play later today on msnbc. he will continue to be asked about this. as geoff said, there is a lot here to unpack, particularly the news from the vetting team of -- from the obama campaign of 2008, that this incident did not surface then. you can mantle when vetting someone for vice president, they are going to be scrutinized down to their skin and bones. if it didn't come up then, that is a flag for folks to note. but given the fact that the democratic party is, you know, championing itself as the party of women and the party of believing women, more specifically, joe biden will have to straddle a balance saying women should be heard and been respected. but in this incident he said it didn't happen. . >> and mika brought up with brett kavanaugh and the allegations against him during his confirmation process for the supreme court position, look, in terms of allegations of sexual
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misconduct, it did not stop donald trump from winning the election in 2016. how much do you think this will impact biden's prospects? how much have we as a country heard so much about sexual assault allegations or harassment allegations against people in power with the dozen or so the president has faced over the years? how much do you think it has permeated society in terms of our acceptance of this? i'm not saying that is a good thing. how much has it watered down the issue when it comes to our elected officials given who we have in the two us? >> yeah. it's funny. the new white house press secretary was asked that question yesterday the fact that president trump has been credibly accused by a dozen women by assault, in some cases, rape, has never sat for an interview for those charges the way joe biden did yesterday. the decision was made by the
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votes of the american people in 2016 when they chose donald trump to be the president of the united states. so that seems to be the line right now. that is the way that these allegations are going to be handled, is that voters are going to sort of render a verdict on it. it's different, though, in the democratic party versus the republican party, as you know, alex. i'm not suggesting >> reene: party is one that tolerates sexual abuse. but they have placed that issue front and center in many ways by the democratic party. the me too movement. democratic women taking up the charge that women need to be believed and respected in these ways and to listen to their complaints. joe biden is facing a different audience. certainly at this point than president trump in terms of his super hard partisan public support. now, whether that is going to affect people's decisions whether to vote for joe biden in november versus president trump, hard to say. joe biden does need to answer
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some of these questions. honestly, at this point, alex, it's hard to imagine that the election will be around much more than what people are talking about with respect to the pandemic and the coronavirus. >> yeah, absolutely. and a couple things i want to say. donald trump has denied all allegations of sexual misconduct and beyond. and he came out and said joe biden may have been falsely accused and maybe in some ways he is supporting him in that regard. go figure. >> reporter: go figure. >> vice president biden will be speak on politics nation. that's coming your way at 5:00 p.m. eastern here on msnbc. lines like these are prompting many americans to act, including a mississippi chef. what he is doing to feed more than 100 families, next. than 100 families, next. we may e to gather together. but we can grill together. oscar mayer invites you to take your backyard cookouts to the front. on may 2nd, join us for the oscar mayer front yard cookout.
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a restaurant owner in mississippi is doing what he can to make sure no family goes hungry. from his organization, move on up, he managed to feed 300 families per week. joining me now from oxford, mississippi is john kearns. who are you feeding now and what's this effort been like? >> well, i guess about eight weeks ago we -- my board of directors realized there was going to be an incredible need in ox nord.
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we had a reserve fund for emergency efforts. the initial idea passed about was to just buy a bunch of gift cards for local grocery store and just pass those out to people who were going to be in need. i quickly sort of kicked back on that because i realized we had the facilities to begin making food and putting food that we knew was good into people's hands. and because the restaurant and grocery store supply chains are completely separate, we had access -- continued access to groceries if folks were not going to be able to get in the store. we started preparing boxes, grocery staples, milk, bread, eggs, and distributing them to 100 families in a hurry and have continued to grow quickly and are continuing to do applications. throughout the county we are
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getting closer to 300 counties now. >> john, it sounds to me like you are doing something -- you are preventing a waste of food that was not going to get to the private consumer. i mean, you're making good use of access to what other people did not. i think that's awesome, right? >> well, i mean, i'm just glad that we can be of service. in our industry, those of us who take it very seriously. our initial reaction was to immediately begin figuring out how we take care of our people. but then immediately after that, the thought was what can we do to help our communities. knowing what a challenge this was going to be, we were lucky. i took this very seriously in early february. my managers thought i was out of my mind the first time i talked about getting ahead of the curve. and we were very fortunate we
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have incredible municipal leadership in the form of our mayor tannehill and alderman the spearhead of protective measures in the state of mississippi. so we jumped on this very early. >> major props to you. foes 300 families you fed and those you are yet to feed are very likely. >> what jared kushner said this week blew in minds. we will talk about it next. ek bs we will talk about it next try eucerin advanced repair and switch, like 94% of people who said they would too. recommended by dermatologists, it doubles your skin's moisture and repairs dry skin over time. so tomorrow can be a different story. eucerin - recommended and used by dermatologists.
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joining me now is the author of the article gabe sherman. also morgan chalfont. gabe, it was a heck of an article. i want to play with you what jared kushner said about the trump administration's coronavirus response. >> we're on the other side of the medical aspect of this. i think we've achieved all of the milestones needed. the federal government rose to the challenge. this is a great success story. what you will see in may, as the states are reopening now, may is a transition month. you will see by june a lot of the country should be back to normal. the hope is by july the country is really rocking again. >> based on your reporting, how is this a great success story? is that the magical thinking? >> alex, this is jared kushner's role in the coronavirus
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response. has been not looked at in depth. the point of the piece was to look at how second to donald trump, jared kushner was driving the white house policy. as a member of the trump family, jared kushner's focus is donald trump's re-election in november. so for a long time he pushed trump to not take an aggressive response because it would damage the stock market and damage the economy. as we saw here in the clip on fox & friends, he shared in his father-in-law's view he can talk out of the crisis. i don't understand how any white house could define more than 60,000 of the fellow citizens dead as a success story. >> morgan, your take on the jared kushner success there and is that reflected widely across the administration? >> i think we are seeing a concerted effort by the white house to project optimism of how they handled this and to look forward to the economic
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recovery. that makes sense to some extent. americans do want to get back to work and there is a gradual reopening of states across the country. health experts said what needs to be the message is how we will continue to deal with this because this virus will be around until there's a vaccine. the country isn't going to get back to normal until that happens. >> not rocking back to normal in july. gabe, you report in martch that trumgz trump is in control. explain the impact of the kushner shadow team versus pence's official team. >> alex, one of the problems of the response is there has been confusion about who is in charge in the west wing of the response. i talked to people who were
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involved in trying to get ventilators and masks and ppe donated to the federal response. because of kushner's shadow team, no one in that community really understood who they should be calling. business executives were calling kushner. some calling mike pence's team. there was no unified chain of command. when you have the disaster chain, it is a military response. you need a clear chain of command. so, jared kushner's side tracking of his own response added an extra layer of management that made it harder. >> yeah. listen, i'm sorry that will be a wrap right now. "inside donald trump and jared kushner's magical thinking." thank you. i'm alex witt. coming up, representative joe kennedy is on to change the
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