at least 16 states are lifting stay-at-home orders this weekend. could doing so cause a spike in infection infections? more than 18% of the work force is estimated to be unemploy unemployed. it's a number expected to rise more. and 1.1 million coronavirus cases are now confirmed in america.

with testing shortages, could the real number be higher? "velshi" starts now. good morning. it's saturday, may 2nd. i'm ali velshi. several states are set to reopen across america. here are the facts. among ongoing criticism of the traum trump administration handling of the pandemic, the white house is banning anthony fauci for testifying. he is still set to testify before the senate health committee on may 12th. the federal government is not extending social distancing guidelines and a restless trump will travel to arizona this week. meanwhile, nbc news learned the federal government placed orders for well over 100,000 body bags to hold covid-19 victims. the biggest set of which

earmarked for purchase the day after trump told the american people the projected death toll would be around 60,000. let's turn to nbc news political reporter monica alba at the white house. monica, take us inside the latest decision to block anthony fauci from testifying this week from the house to approve it to the senate. is this political or is it as the white house argues pandemic driven? >> reporter: it seems to be a bit of both, ali. the white house is arguing in terms of the house panel which would have been led by democrats, it would be in their words counter productive for dr. fauci to take time away from the administration response to the pandemic and put it toward appearing in the setting which was set for may 6th. that hearing will continue, but without dr. fauci. we should note the following week there say senate health committee panel scheduled for may 12th which he will participate in.

that will be led by republicans. here, officials have managed dr. fauci's presence in public in the last couple weeks. we have seen a notable shift away from the daily briefings that almost always included dr. fauci. we have seen a pivot here to a new communication strategy. the president is the one taking more questions on the health crisis and talking more about the economy and we're hearing less and less from doctors like fauci and dr. birx who has appeared alongside the president in the oval office or rose garden. we have been used to seeing them address the american public. that is something we have not seen and we don't expect to see continue, ali, in the next couple weeks. that is the white house trying to control dr. fauci's public

image. >> monica, thank you for kicking us off this morning. monica alba at the white house. joining me now is jennifer rubin. she is a political analystanaly. also with me is the host of the dean odello show. he is a columnist for "the jennifer, i have never run of anything of importance in my life. i would not know how to conduct a pandemic. from the beginning, a general agreement among experts and scientists and epidemiologists and infectious disease experts and virologists. donald trump kept choosing instinct and pointing to his head when asked about the basis of the decisions. that has cost us lives and more

infections than we should have had. >> absolutely. i think this is typical of donald trump. he has done this his entire career and presidency. the difference this time is people have died because of it. this is not a guy who understands government or understands policy or who is curious about the world and relies on experts. this is a guy who's best talent is pitching and selling and creating a magical world in which he is the ultimate spinner and salesman. that is a skill set that is inappropriate for the current condition. i think both in terms of failing to recognize there was a problem and just today we have the number two person at the cdc saying that did cost us a poor start to the current situation in which we have a testing lag in which governors are egged on to reopen and at a time they have not met the criteria.

meaning declines cases and declining fatalities and increase in testing. i think the problem goes on. you see that reflected in the president's really falling and dropping approval numbers. the number of people who look to the governors and look to the cdc and other experts for information because they don't trust what's coming from trump. >> and dean, we have now 1,105,000 cases in the united states. we have had 65,000 deaths so far. the white house modelling and we never know how good these models are. the white house modelling calls for over 100,000 deaths. we are not at the peak yesterday. jared kushner went out this week and said we're doing a great job. >> well, i think with kushner and trump, a family that gas lights together stays together. they are part-in-parcel of

misleading the american public. ali, remember february 26th. trump bragged. we have 15 cases and soon it will be is zero. that was two months ago. soon it will be zero. that will be in an ad this fall during the campaign season. just two days later, he called it the hoax. jared kushner is lying. that's part of the team they're on. trump, though, misleading the american public. over and over. misleading good americans to their peril is one of the greatest crimes as president. i don't mean crime in terms of federal law, but moral law. telling people this is just like the flu. auto accidents kill more people. don't worry about this. i've got it. it goes away with the heat in april. to me, americans have now died because donald trump's incompetence. as jennifer said, look at his poll numbers. the republican senator in

georgia david perdue said georgia is in play this cycle. a democrat has not won georgia since 1992 for president. you see what is going on. i think this november things will change. this november, donald trump and the gop could pay a dear price. >> that's interesting, jen, if one were to make a decision not to choose the data, at one point the cdc on march 6th, trump was saying everybody who needs a test could get a test. back then the actual coronavirus test. not the antibody test. we are still not in a position where everybody who needs a coronavirus test can get a test in the united states. had he relied on the science, his political prospects would have been better. maybe we would not be headed for as deeper a recession or not as many people infected. there would not be as many people dead. >> absolutely. this is the undoing of donald trump. he is always his worst enemy.

he is incompetent at bottom. he has an incurious mind. the social distancing and stay-at-home orders were necessary because that was the only alternative left. we could not because they didn't have the testing and they were not on top of it. they did not take the approach of singapore and south korea in at which they jumped on the virus right away and turn it off and isolate after testing and tracking people. then get on with their lives. as a result, we now all had to huddle in our homes for a couple months. that is the direct result of the failure to meet the virus at the moment it struck or the moment we were aware of it in china. at the moment, we are looking at the recession that will look like great depression numbers. even in 2008 we did not see numbers like this. donald trump who has spent his entire presidency bragging about

his economy as if he created it and bragging about the stock market, bragging about the lowest unemployment ever. suddenly that has all come home to roost. it is largely because of the mishandling of the coronavirus. both in terms of the deaths and long-term injury to people's health and also the mental stress and addition to all of that and health related issues, the economic downturn of his undoing is a direct result of his incompetence. >> you weren't listening, jen, earlier this week when asked about the economy, donald trump responded i built it and i ccan build it again. thank you, jennifer rubin. and dean obedelliah. it is saturday morning. you turn on the tv and you get death tolls and infection tolls. it can be overwhelming. one of the things that keeps me

going is i have asked you to send me how you are getting by. there is good news. mostly how people are dealing with it. here in the united states, as you know, i invite you. send me your stories. i got a great letter from gail. my dad seymour is a world war ii veteran. on april 4th, he went to huntington hospital with covid-19 symptoms and temperature of 103.7 degrees. celebrated his 94th birthday with the nurses and physicians the next day. it was a roller coaster week. my dad was released on april 11th and staff members cheered and clapped. he conquered covid-19. a miracle. how are you coping? send stories or pictures. send me your videos at

mystory@velshi.com. what is the deal with the coronavirus testing in the united states? president trump may claim one thing, but the facts say another. coming up next, a glimmer of hope after a potential covid-19 treatment gets fda emergency use authorization. it's good news. i was very serious when i said this is not the total answer by any means. it is a very important first step. s a very important first step

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one of the biggest problems with the trump administration's response has been testing. but president trump says the u.s. is doing well in this area. so for facts sake, let's take a closer look and begin with this claim on the number of tests being conducted. >> we are way ahead on testing. we are the best in the world on testing. we've tested much more than anybody else times two. or every country combined, we've tested more than every country combined. >> according to the data site world omoter. the u.s. has conducted nearly 7 million. however, we have not tested more than every combined as trump says. between them, russia, germany and italy conducted over 8 million tests. the u.s. is lagging in the key metric of tests per person. which is a better way to compare. we are testing over 20,000

people per million. 2% which is behind italy, germany and russia. the president has also tried to pin testing failures on barack obama. >> i started with an obsolete broken system from the previous administration or administrations. >> obama left office in january of 2017, you'll recall nearly three years before covid-19. there was no test because it did not exist at the time. after the outbreak was public, the cdc created the test in 2020 during the trump administration which it sent to public health labs in early february. you will recall or maybe you won't because so much has happened since then. those labs said the tests were not working properly because of the manufacturing defect which created the delays. trump didn't inherit a faulty

test. trump has claimed other nations are envious of our testing regime. >> i got a call from president moon of south korea. he said congratulations. your testing is -- nobody has ever seen anything like we're doing. >> that's not the only time trump said that. trump and moon spoke on april 18th. the readout from the call makes no mention of moon congratula congratulating the united states on testing. that would be unusual. the south koreans said trump told moon that south korea was a model for how the world could deal with the virus. the united states conducted almost 321,000 new tests yesterday. a recent harvard study says there needs to be 500,000 to 700,000 tests per day to safely

relax stay-at-home orders. there needs to be an increased of supplies known as reagents for the testing. now there's a possible breakthrough drug in the battle of the coronavirus. the fda issued emergency use thor authorization for remdesivir. the fda's nod came after dr. fauci said the trial data showed the drug had quote clear cut significant positive effect in diminishing the time of recovery. this doesn't mean it should be used for all hospitalized patients. it may have dangerous side effects. the maker of remdesivir, gilead sciences, is hoping the expansion of the drug's use for patients earlier in the illness may be useful. here is the ceo on the "today" show. >> we were prepared because of

the work we have done with remdesivir for the past decade. at the same time we put remdesivir in clinical trials, we made the decision before we expanded capacity knowing the global crisis and knowing we had to be ready in the event this turned out to be effective for patients. we have gone from 5,000 treatment courses to today almost 100,000 treatment courses. because of the investment early, we think we will get to millions of treatment courses by the end of the year. >> joining me now is dr. bhadhilia at boston university and msnbc contributor. good to see you again. thank you for joining us. we appreciate you getting up early to kick us off on the weekends. can you give me a sense of what is going on with remdesivir?

we heard it was a great drug and men didn't work in trials and now the news it does work. what's the story? >> ali, two big trials had results this week. one we got results for, but not seen the data yet. the nih trial that dr. fauci talked about is over 1,000 people that tests remdesivir against the placebo. is this more effective than nothing? they showed improvement of 33% of terms of time to recovery from 15 days to 11 days. then it did show some benefit in mortality. it wasn't significant. that means that it wasn't as notable in all covers. as you mentioned remdesivir, the manufacturer says there may be benefit if patients receive it slightly earlier in the course. they released a study of two

dosing. that doesn't talk about the efficacy of the drug. it talks about a five-day dose and ten-day dose. the president mentioned that gilead said you can have twice as many doses as many people who receive treatment. the study from china testing against placebo, but they did not have enough people enrolled. they did not notice moderate amount of changes in mortality with the two populations. that's where we are currently. i think it is going to be a tool. it is not going to be the thing that helps everybody with the disease potentially. >> what would help more people or we hope is a vaccine. we heard talk about the vaccine. a white house project narrowed down the number of vaccine candidates they try to move

forward on. where do we stand on that? >> ali, currently six vaccine candidates moving in phase one trials. the efficacy in animal studies or cell studies. what we get from the studies is the evaluation of whether or not to safely give this to a smaller group of people. the limiting factor for all of the studies or vaccines is the next step which is phase two or three trial, those are big numbers of people getting the vaccine and testing the efficacy of those who don't get the vaccine and play it out in terms of safety. that is where we see if vaccines a are efficatious or not. >> this is one of the most popular vaccines the world has ever seen. we have to make sure it doesn't

do more harm than good. everybody who knows about vaccines tells me this is more complicated than it seems. the short timelines are not l k likely to be something we should expect. thank you, doctor. infectious disease physician and msnbc contributor. president trump is claiming he has evidence the coronavirus pandemic began in a lab in wuhan, china. >> my question is have you seen anything at this point that gives you a high degree of confidence that the wuhan institute of virology is the origin of the virus? >> yes, i have. >> what gives you the high degree of confidence this originated from the institute? >> i can't tell you. >> i'm not allowed to tell you why. the office of the national intelligence issued the statement.

the covid-19 was not manmade or genetically modified. we have cal perry with more. >> reporter: it is whatever agency will do to figure out where the virus originated. there are two narratives you are familiar with. the first it came from a wet market in the city of wuhan and it jumped from animal to humans. the chinese data suggests that. the second narrative which you heard from the president. it may have come out of a lab in wuhan and that institute. wuhan institute. we heard it two days in a row. this is what the verification team broken down as part of the investigation. what i will show you is the location of the lab in the city of wuhan. it is two locations. that's the important thing to know. two locations from the lab. wuhan institute of virology. one is 17 miles outside the city.

that does bsl-4 that does the high level work with bats and viruses. the other location to the market is a level 2 lab. it works with infesectinsects. there are two locations inside the city. there's a third lab we'll get to in a minute. the chinese cdc. it is a separate entity. i'll show you that in a second. i want to share with you first. i was able to speak with a virologist. he was a professor at the university of which the head of the institute went to. he will talk about what she did the day the virus did the day in the city. >> first of all, the market is far away from the institute. that's one thing. which is physically something of mystery. one steep accusation is there. she rushed in her lab and got

together and said we have to figure this out. we went through the books and all of the material she had and researched everything she could find her hands on. she could not find that this virus came out of the hospitals was the virus they were working with. so, what more can you do? >> reporter: this other lab, the chinese cdc, center for disease control. not affiliated with the wuhan institute of vir ology. this is only 300 yards from the market. it does work with bats and vi s virus viruses. they go into the caves, ali, they take bats and take the bats back to the lab to try to work ahead of the coronavirus before they breakout on the possible ways to treat it and inoculate

people for it. i want to show video of the verification team. this aired showing the work done in the cave. this is somebody who worked at the centers for disease control and prevention. you see him here in the cape. experts have told our team this work should require more ppe gear than what he has on. he actually speaks in the video. we'll bring up the audio. listen to what he says. >> reporter: these are the most dangerous viruses in the world. this work has been going on for years. when you compare this video to another video. this next video shows inside the level 4 facility. 17 miles from the wet market. inside the lab. the work they do inside that lab with the most dangerous viruses in the world. experts tell our verification team that this is the gear people should have on in the

lab. granted, we're talking about two different places. lab versus the cave. the first video, the scientist from the cdc is not wearing appropriate amount of gear. ali, we heard the u.s. president do this on issues around president world. on immigration. he oversimplifies things. the agencies will look at this sort of thing. >> cal, thank you for your great reporting on this. we need verification on things we hear and see now more than ever. cal perry. president trump and mitch mcconnell are determined to tip the scale in america's highest courts despite the pandemic or maybe because of the pandemic. can mcconnell fulfill the pledge to leave no vacancy behind when it comes with judicial nominees? we'll talk about that next on "velshi." "velshi. actively supporting you and your community.

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hey, everybody. welcome back. we are having technical issues with ali velshi. we will work on getting his camera back. for millions of high school seniors, graduation day is a rite of passage. a milestone moments. coronavirus has forced many celebrations to be canceled. here is priscilla thompson. >> reporter: like high school valedictorians across the country, kimberly has been speaking about her speak. >> give my story. r >> reporter: a graduation story marked by defying the odds. >> if i did it and all of the challenges and struggles and labels i had, then anyone else. >> reporter: like undocumented immigrant and teen mom.

>> i'm originally from guatemala. we're in houston because we were looking for a better future for us. >> reporter: her life was up ended at the age of 3 when her father was paralyzed in a car accident working in the u.s. her family emigrated illegally to care for him. >> my mom had to come to the u.s. she brought my sister and me. >> reporter: in her junior year of high school, life took another turn. >> i learned i was pregnant. it was a big whoa. what am i going to do now? >> reporter: now in her senior year, the coronavirus has changed things yet again. her daily zoom classes share a screen with elmo cartoons to keep her son entertained while she takes notes. her family is coming to terms with the idea of the virtual

gr graduation. >> i said, no, daddy. you can't cry. >> reporter: memories that mean so much more in families with students who will be the first, including aaron gutierrez. >> graduation was a big deal for my mom. i'm the first to graduate high school. coro corona. we don't know what we will do. >> reporter: it is not just the graduation, but the other firsts that come with it. >> i wouldn't attend prom or senior week or senior night. it is hard. it is once in a lifetime. >> reporter: even so, both gutierrez and deleon are looking ahead to college. they plan to pursue health care. gutierrez a nurse and deleon an occupational therapist. until then, she must prepare for the new normal of the coronavirus. >> my mom left her job since i

was the only one able to work. bills won't pay themselves. i'm trying to be positive here and saying i'm going to still go to the university of houston in the fall and not having to work. >> reporter: as the scholarship awards continue to roll in, deleon is hopeful that her mom will get back to work and she can head off to college not only for herself, but also for her son. >> i want my kid to do the same thing as i did. i want him to always, always go forward and don't let anything stop him. >> that was priscilla thompson reporting. we will be right back with more "velshi." you are watching msnbc. you are watching msnbc ♪all strength,

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duty or formally adjourn so i can make recess appointments. if the house will not agree to that an adjournment, i will exercise by constitutional authority to adjourn both chambers. >> constitutional law experts have shot down what the president believes is his constitutional authority. senate majority leader mitch mcconnell shares trump's commitment to leave a legacy behind as the senate reconvenes on monday. a spokesperson for mcconnell said any solution will require democratic approval. mcconnell made a pledge to the president to quote find ways to confirm nominees considered mission critical to the covid-19 pandemic. mcconnell promised senators they would be safe to return. this week, the capitol's attending physician told officials there are not enough tests for lawmakers and their

staffs. we understand the mcconnell pledge to leave no vacancy behind when installing judicial nominees. i don't think we understood what or who he would risk to make that happen. the trump administration has confirmed a record-breaking 193 judges. including two supreme court justices. a recent article in the guardian argues the nation has come to a point where the november election is not a fight for the white house as much as a fight for the rule of law. because the article argues the judges are partisan and political, our next guest says, quote, the cost for constitutional democracy and rule of law will be incalculable. joining me now is the professor of law at harvard law school. lawrence, thank you for being with us. good to talk to you here. talk to me about the relevance

here of appointing judges because of the necessity driven by covid-19 or coronavirus. is that a legal argument or a political argument? >> everything from mcconnell is purely politics. when he says leave no vacancy behind, the hipocrasy is astonishing with the appointment. you have to give a new definition of hutzpah. lifetime appointments. like the appointment of justin walker who mcconnell is trying to push under the one broken seat. the justin walker is a kentucky

protege of mcconnell. was was unqualified in kentucky. with a mcconnell is trying to do is simply pack the courts from top to bottom with people who are loyal to the trump philosophy. not protecting the country against the coronavirus. but making sure the agenda of trump and barr, who challenge what is being done to protect us from the virus, that their agenda is not only the law of the land for the next few months, but the rest of our lives. for decades. these are lifetime appointments. stacking the courts with far right people who are deemed unqualified for good reason. they are very young and i inexperienced. political hacks more than jurists. it is a way of dangers all we

value under the constitution. rule of law. rights of individuals. separation of powers. checks and balances. all of that is at stake. i really couldn't emphasize more seriously that it is our future that is on the line in this election. even before the election, i think democrats have to do everything they can, which isn't a lot, to stop mcconnell from carrying out his purely partisan political agenda with respect to the federal courts. >> the thing that is important here is that if there is another administration, a lot of the policies that people get so angry about in most cases can be overturned. there may be long term damage that they have done to climate change we can't reverse. the point you make they are careful. the administration is careful about the judges they are appointi appointing. they tend to be young and they

tend to be people likely on the bench for 40 plus years. >> that's right. young, doctrine, dogmatic, closed minded and bound to carry out this agenda for as long as any of us are alive. that is a really scary prospect for anyone who cares about the future of this country. i think it is a terrifying prospect. >> can you tell me about something more immediate and that is the house wanted to hear testimony from dr. anthony fauci. the white house said no. they then did approve that fauci appear in front of the senate committee. what do you make of this? >> it is outrageous. it is typical of the information manipulation of the administration and helped plunge us in the coronavirus catastrophe. the way they manage information and kept it from the american p

peop people is very outset caused the 64,000 who are now dead. what they are trying to do is manage the situation so that fauci testifies only before a senate controlled committee and is therefore kept away from facts that would be embarrassing to the administration. facts the american people need to know to protect us from both the economic catastrophe that we are now confronting and health catastrophe. to say it is okay to testify before our guys, but not your guys is typical propaganda and information manipulation. i think the country should rise up against it. >> and senator dianne feinstein had made the point it is danger for congress to go back. the average age in congress is high. if there were congressional business to do related to

coronavirus, that might be justified. but senator feinstein sent a letter no committee business related to the coronavirus or public health and economic emergency has been scheduled. the stuff you talked about is not on the agenda. the sole reason for reconvening congress is to approve judges. >> that's right. i think there are 47 senators over the age of 65. they are all at great risk. he is willing to risk the health even if his own colleagues to push his agenda through, but not to protect the health of the american body politics or the american economy. it is a totally skewed set of priorities and one that i think should lead to the removal this november of mcconnell and his gang. the senate as well as the white house really need to be in more rationale hands if the country is to be spared.

>> for all of the things one can be critical about on president trump to the base he appeals, this is the big win. this is the success. we he goes to rallies, he never misses the opportunity to talk about the conservative appointments to the court. for people saying he is not handling the coronavirus well. if the in their opinion, he is handling the court well. >> that's right. this is his ace in the hole. he thinks by stressing how many right wing judges he will leave behind, he can perhaps hold on to this office. he may be right. i'm certainly not confident that's wrong. he's been politically savvy before. i think he is quite ignorant about everything that matters to the nation's health, but not all ignorant about his political prospects. >> laurence, thank you for being

on here. from harvard law school. the bad economic news continue to pile up had this week. on wednesday, reported that the gross domestic product, which is the best measure we've got of the total value of all goods and services produced in the united states fell by an estimated 4.8% during the first quarter of last year, and even that number is not accurate because of the fact that it really measures three full months, two and a half of which had normal activity before coronavirus occurred. on thursday, the labor department reported that another 3.8 million americans filed for first time unemployment claims during the week ending april 25th, which means more than 30 million americans have now filed for unemployment since the lockdown started in mid-march, and we're expecting more. it could take a while for things to turn around. here's a question, is it as bad as it really looks?

joining me to talk about that is my old friend caleb silver, the editor and chief of the investing and finance education website investopedia. you've got a sense of the good, the bad, and the ugly of this economy right now. let's start with the good. it's saturday morning, let's try and give somebody some good news. what's the good? >> you're right. it's spring. there's been about $2.8 trillion in fiscal and monetary stimulus thrown at this crisis, so the federal reserve and congress reacted relatively quickly. you and i were afternoon in the 2008, 2009 recession, it took a little bit longer. the financial markets are not frozen because the federal reserve has pumped a lot of money into the banking system and throughout the market. low interest rates are spurring refinancing. the u.s. stock market is up 20% from its lows on march 20th. we went into steepest, fastest bear market. the savings rate spiked in april. that's a double-edged sword we'll talk about in a second.

>> let's talk about the bad. >> you just had the graphic, more than 30 million people filing for first time unemployment. the continuing claims for unemployment, those have already been unemployed for more than a week is getting pretty high as well. we have a lot of people unemployed. it's hitting the lowest income and minority households the most because they can't work from home as much as the higher income brackets. the sba's payment protection program, that ppp protection program, that has gotten off to a pretty rocky start. small businesses are suffering and they're laying off people because it's easier to do that than wait for the loan. most companies plan to cut their spending on capital x and labor in 2020. the hiring back of all of these people that are getting laid off is going to take a while, and we've seen retirement accounts take a big plunge, 19% drop in the first quarter. it will come back a little bit, and that savings rate are those $12,7 $1,200 stimulus checks. >> you and i were basically roommates during the last recession because we worked

together. this is much uglier than that. >> much uglier, and much steeper and it's going to get worse. going into this most americans couldn't handle a $500 emergency if they had one. whether that's a health emergency. that's going to get worse. for people getting stimulus checks there's 14 million people unbanked in america. you got to wait for a check to come from the treasury. for some people it could take months and that could be way too long for them. we're starting to secret card delinquencies spike. people putting off their rent, paying their mortgages. the banks are bracing for it by taking on higher loan loss provisions. banks are getting ready for a lot of bankruptcies and delinquencies, and we're seeing that across different areas of the markets. financial markets because the fed has backed us up. it's going to be frustrating because the economy and the markets have diverged here and

the lower income folks are going to feel it the most. >> we're going to be talking about that through the course of this show. good to see you, buddy, the editor and chief of investopedia. back in march before we all went into lockdown and our economy came to a halt, the president made a visit to the cdc where he made a statement that underpinned our entire coronavirus response. >> but i think, i think importantly, anybody right now and yesterday, anybody that needs a test gets a test. they're there. they have the tests, and the tests are beautiful. anybody that needs a test gets a test. if there's a doctor that wants a test, if there's somebody coming off a ship like the big monster ship that's out there right now, which, you know, again, that's a big decision. do i want to bring all those people on. people would like me to do that. i don't like the idea, but anybody that needs a test can have a test. they're all set. they have them out there.

in addition to that, they're making millions more as we speak. but as of right now and yesterday, anybody that needs a test -- that's the important thing -- and the tests are all perfect. >> that was march 6th when trump initially made that statement. it was untrue then, and it remains untrue today nearly two months later. the problem is that it set us up to respond to the threat of this pandemic too slowly. but it's not too late to change course for the better. proper testing is what gives us the number to know how widespread the virus is. it allows us to know which portion of the population is most affected by it and it allows us to identify and isolation infected people as quickly as possible. testing is critical to getting the country up and running again, testing whether it be for the virus or the antibody is what ultimately will tell us if we're safe to go outside, if a co-worker is sick, if a loved one is in the clear. experts around the world agree that to fight this virus, we need to test earlier than we started and we needed to test

more people than we are testing now. some experts estimate that we need at least 22 million tests a day. right now in the united states we test about 220,000 people a day on average. trump says he follows his instincts rather than facts generally using the daily coronavirus briefing podium as a socially distanced rally more than an informative update. he's passed blame to state governors for lack of testing instead of harnessing the power of the federal government to create a cohesive response. he's used the defense production act to keep meat plants open instead of using it to create more tests. beating this pandemic isn't a fight that can be won through protests or politics, nor is it a fight that can be won with one eye to the next election. if we want herd immunity, we need to test. if we want to go back to work, to school, and our normal lives, we need to test. data driven solutions are key to solving this pandemic and to be able to move forward we need to

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