hi u i'm joshua johnson in new york. good to be with you tonight. let's begin with the facts at this hour. coronavirus has now infected at least 1.1 million people in the united states. at last counted, 66,000 people have died with the most deaths in new york, new jersey, and michigan. parts of the country have already started to rekindle their economies in hopes of easing their economic woes. more than half the nation's governors are lifting restrictions. public health experts warn this could contribute to another wave of covid-19 cases. by all accounts, we are some ways off from finding a cure. still, the fda is clearing the

way to use a medication on severely ill covid-19 patients. the agency approved an emergency use authorization for a drug called remdesivir. dr. anthony fauci says remdesivir is a very important first step with solid research behind it. those steps cannot come soon enough for folks eager to get back to business. some of them have been on the streets venting their frustrations. some californians have been protesting this weekend in orange county south of los angeles. governor nauchl nauchl closed that county's beaches after thousands of people showed up there to enjoy a sunny weekend. prior to this the state government signaled that all of california's beaches could close. that frustrated some local officials and drew criticism from republicans who accused newsom of playing politics. let's begin in orange county with nbc's steve patterson in laguna beach. steve, the mood today has been pretty heated at times. what's it like now?

certainly noisy, i can tell. >> i would say this continues to be one of those times. the passion continues, the vitriol continues. the overall frustration from people here continues. to my left you can see some police officers guarding the beach. at one point this protest was maybe in the hundreds and some spillover happened when people trying to tried to push their way onto the beach as a matter of protest. i want to start by saying this has been relatively peaceful. we've seen a lot of cars pass by and honk in support. this has been most a peaceful affair. the been smaller than some of the protests we've seen, but quite a few people here. people were angry at gavin newsom before all this started. this is obviously a conservative bastion orange county for quite some time. you can hear the frustration and passion. as the stay-at-home order

continued, there was more frufgs frustrations. that built up when he ordered the closing of beaches in orange county. we spoke to protesters about why they were so frustrated about specifically that. listen to this. >> there's no reason not to be phasing in an opening. the initial order was that all beaches in the state would be closed. that was revised overnight to be only orange county. he has a problem -- he seems to have an issue with orange county because of what happened at newport beach. he says if the virus doesn't travel in other beaches, only orange county beaches, he needs to really look at science. >> reporter: again, the protests continue this evening. although this is a far cry from what it was this afternoon. there was hundreds of people on both sides of the street, still very passionate contingent here protesting what they see as blocking their rights and really if you see some of the signs,

some of the patriotism, as much of a trump rally as it is an ante gavin newsom rally. the message is they want gavin newsom to open the state as soon as possible, joshua. >> thank you, steve. let's talk politics for a moment, specifically the sexual assault allegation against vice president joe biden. the apparent democratic nominee has flatly denied claims that he sexually assaulted a former senate staffer. here's what he told the reverend al sharpton. >> you did an extensive interview over 20 minutes with my colleague, mika brzezinski around the allegations made bid ms. reade against you. i just want to get your reaction to this statement. it says the only thing joe biden did was dig himself a deeper hole and it says but there can not be one set of rules for joe biden and another set for everyone else.

do you want to respond to them saying that about your interview with mica? >> no, i don't want to respond to them but it's not true. i'm saying unequivocally it never happened, period. believing a woman means taking a woman's claim seriously when she steps forward and then vetting it, looking into it. that's true in this case as well. women have a right to be heard and i'd uphold those principles. but in the end in every case the truth is what matters. in this case the truth is these claims are false. >> the accuser, tara reade. in march those claims got more serious. now she allegations she was sexually assaulted in the spring of 1993. ms. reade said she filed a complaint with the senate when

it happened. today in a text message reade added she filed a complaint about sexual harassment and retaliation but she is not sure of her exact wording on the form. biden recently asked the secretary of the senate to locate and released the complaint. we have reached out to more than a dozen people who worked for biden when the alleged assault occurred, four declined to comment. none said they recalled any complaints about biden's behavior. joining us are philip rucker, msnbc political analyst, nbc senior politics editor beth fouhy, and andrew desiderio with politico. good to have you with us this evening. beth fouhy, let me start with you. what do you think the biden campaign needs to do now? >> well, a lot of democrats, i think, were frustrated that it took him several days to step forward and speak for himself on this very serious allegation. it had been left to others around him, supporters of vice president biden, including a

number of the women who might be on his list for his vp, people like elizabeth warren, to sort of speak out on his behalf. nancy pelosi had to do that as well. so there was no question joe biden needed to step forward and speak for himself. now he has on "morning joe." he's unequivocally denying that anything tara reade is alleging ever happened. he's repeating that all the time. he says it's unequivocal, didn't happen, didn't happen. meanwhile, however, she's continuing to make those claims. she's giving interviews to various other news organizations. she gave an interview, for example, with the associated press today. there was some discussion that she would be on fox news this weekend and that evidently is not going to happen. so it's a question of reporters vetting what she is telling us and judging it against the conversation that we are having with others in joe biden's orbit. obviously it's not something the biden campaign wants to be dealing with at this point and

certainly with this very, very serious charge. but he's been quite equivocal. we're hearing from the folks who vetted him for the vice presidency in 2008 saying no such claim came up then. one would think it certainly would have when you're running for vice president. it's an uncomfortable spot for the vice president right now and probably won't go away anytime soon. >> philip rucker, i'm glad beth you understanding elizabeth warren. can't help thinking thinking about the cringeworthy moment when she went after michael bloomberg and he if you heard that answer. so this, i think, philip, changes dramatically the dynamic of both campaigns, not necessarily that it puts joe biden on the back foot but it's not where he wants to end up. >> it has joe biden on his back fort hood foot today, but we'll see how this goes in the days to

come. biden has made himself available for lengthy interviews now on the topic and i assume their plan is going to continue to address this as long as there are questions. and that's important and that's, by the way, not the way that president trump when he was a candidate in 2016 handled all of the claims against him. but i suspect going forward there are going to be other issues that come into play in this election. obviously the pandemic, the economy, major, major issues that are affecting all americans on which most strategists in both parties think the election in november ultimately will be determined. >> andrew desiderio, let's turn to that issue of coronavirus. this week we learned the white house will not allow dr. anthony fauci to testify before the house appropriations committee. he will be allowed to testify before the senate health committee. how and why do you think this happened? >> well, look. what the white house is saying is essentially the house of representatives, house democrats

specifically, did not give them enough guidance in terms of what specifically he would be asked about and what this hearing would be focused on. we know what this is going to be focused on especially as a member of the coronavirus task force over at the white house. on the senate side, he has agreed to testify before the senate's health committee, but that won't come until may 12th, which is the tuesday after this coming tuesday. this seems to be a good old-fashioned dispute. you heard what the white house said today and democrats saying the white house are blocking him from testifying. it's one of those good old-fashioned spats we've seen with house democrats and the trump white house over the past few months. >> beth, the coronavirus task force briefings have changed recently after the president commented about using uv light or infect tant to treat

coronavirus patients. he's getting guidance if from his aides that these briefings aren't helping. how do you think these briefings might change going forward? >> we definitely see them change. basically those 5:00 briefings that happen for weeks and sometimes go on for two hours at a time basically disappeared as of last week. we did see the president come out and address different crowds during the week in different rooms in the white house, talking to business leaders and others who we just wanted to make a pitch. he wants to speak about the reopening of the economy and not so much on the health aspects of the pandemic but it's clear the white house made a decision that those monday through friday briefings were not helping. they were hurting him. he was starting to see very poor numbers in a lot of the battleground states, pennsylvania, michigan, where jooi

joe biden was leading president trump. so the dynamic had to shift. on friday they sent out the new press secretary kayleigh mcenany to make the case in the white house briefing room, so they're switching up to messaging right now. but the underlying facts are the same, the pandemic is not going away anytime soon at it death toll is rising. >> philip rucker, how do you see it? >> i think beth is right there. we are reporting tonight in "the washington post" what that battleground poll that angered the president shows. it shows him losing to biden across 17 different battleground states. but the more troubling statistic is that the vast majority of americans do not think the country is headed in the right direction right now, and trump loses to biden on a range of character traits from, you know, who's honest, who is fighting for people like you and so forth. so it's a really troubling hole the president's in.

his advisers know it and that's why they made changes this week to change the public perception as his leadership in this pandemic -- i assume we're going to see that going forward. for example, the president scheduled travel on tuesday of this coming week to arizona, his first time really outside the white house other than his visit to that hospital ship. >> andrew, the senate returns to capitol hill on monday. now, last night health and human services secretary alex azar said rapid coronavirus testing would be made available for senators and staff after the congressional physician warned the senate was only able to test members and staff who got sick. in response, house speaker nancy pelosi and senate majority leader mitch mcconnell issued this bipartisan statement today basically declining azar's offer and calling for us to focus on getting tests to frontline facilities instead. what more are you hearing about congress returning to d.c., especially because it's been an open question right up until he had to vote as to how they were

going to vote with social distancing being in place and having the crowd, you know, 500 members of congress in one place? >> that's exactly right. the senate is coming back on monday, but the house won't come back until the following monday. we saw that very rare joint pelosi/mcconnell statement. i don't think i've seen one of those before, at least not in recent memory, essentially saying thanks but no thanks to this offer from the white house for about 1,000 of these rapid covid-19 tests. now, politically it's probably a smart move what they did, declining this offer and saying, look, you know, these precious tests are better used for the frontline workers and for americans who are at large rather than us members of congress. of course there are major public health concerns. i talked to lawmakers and aides over the past few weeks who are very concerned about going back to the capitol and essentially resuming business as usual, associating on nominations, holding committee hearings, things like that.

it's going to be a difficult week for senators in particular to adjust to, and there are certainly new logistical restraints and it's going to start with a group of 100 senators, two-thirds of whom are over the age of 60, the most vulnerable age range for the coronavirus. >> philip rucker of "the washington post," nbc's beth fouhy, and politico, andrew disderio, thank you very much. north korean leader kim jong-un was rumored to be gravely ill or dead. now we're getting new evidence that he's alive, we think. president trump tweeted that he is, quote, glad to see he is back and well, unquote. but the president declined, again, to dress kim's health. >> i'd rather not comment on it yet, kim jong-un. we'll have something to say about it at the appropriate time. >> kim had not been seen for nearly this week, and that fueled speculation about his

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>> it's opening weekend in at least 21 states, including texas. they are beginning to ease restrictions on stay-at-home orders. this new reality is forcing restaurant owners to rethink how to bring customers in and keep the virus out. joining us now is jay amor a chef and business owner and also a south carolina state representative for a district north of charleston. mr. moore, good evening. >> good evening. how are you doing today, josh? >> i'm well. thank you very much. and i want to get your sense of this executive order. yesterday south carolina's governor signed an order to reopen restaurants that have outdoor seating. what do you make of that? >> well, look. i want to first say that this pandemic, this coronavirus, covid-19 has really wreaked havoc on the health of our community, but also the economics of our community as

well. and so as you know, you know, i'm a chef and an owner of a catering company. it's just been devastating for my industry. so look, i think that eventually we do need to start reopening the economy. i think, really, what the challenge is right now is that the government made a decision to reopen the restaurants yesterday. and then today less than 24 hours now the patio can be open. what needs to happen -- i've had several conversations with a number of independent restaurant owners. what i was hoping would have happened is we would have done a better job of communicating with independent restaurants and restaurants as a whole on the best practices. i had a conversation today with owners of restaurants like the

cod father who stayed open for a long time doing to-go. there's a level of frustration that here we are opening up the patio and they don't feel that they have enough guidance on the proper ways of doing it. >> you have said -- you're the only state house member with a culinary degree, and you have said -- >> that's right. >> you lost a lot of money, but you're busier than ever. elaborate on that. >> that's right. so look, so the 98%, 99% of my normal business is, is we have an agreement with hudson inside the charleston and myrtle beach airport. people aren't traveling. i'll give you an example. on average is 12,000 people per day traveling in the charleston, south carolina, area. now that number is down to 100. right now that business is almost to a stand still. but what we've been doing is

partnering up with some amazing partners here in the area throughout south carolina, people like attorney ml ramsdale here in mount pleasant and a dear friend of mine and a great leader, jayme harrison. we've been feeding essential workers like grocery store attendants and health care workers and sanitation workers. we fed over the past two or three weeks over 600 essential workers. >> the state's restaurant association pushed for the outdoor seating measure. they can see they want indoor seating by may 18th. is that possible? how do you see it? >> look, i think it is possible, but i had a conversation earlier today with our health care department, and i let them know, look, we need clearer, specific guidelines for restaurants to reopen. and also i think what needs to happen is we as elected officials and leaders, we need to go on a campaign of making

sure people feel comfortable and safe to start gathering in restaurants. until we can do that, i think it's going to be a challenge because, look, we can open up and say we're ready to go by the 18th, but if consumers and our constituents don't have confidence that it's safe to do so, then a lot of restaurants are going to struggle to open, and a lot of them -- it may be their downfall. >> we have video of you providing meals for hospital workers, for frontline caregivers. you've also been doing this for teachers. what kind of responses have you been getting? >> it's been overwhelming. i mean, it's been literally overwhelming the response we've been getting from the community. so many people -- george saing, a real estate agent, howard's

barbershop, we're going to be teaming with them to do some stuff in the goose creek area. so it's been overwhelming the tremendous amount of support that we've been getting to support and show appreciation. i mean, it just goes so far when you can get a person a sandwich or a cookie or anything to say, look, thank you, thank you, thank you so much for your service. i want to say this. although we're showing our appreciation doing that, we need to do a lot more than that. we're working on some bills the show more appreciation for our workers. >> that south carolina state rep j.a. moore, thank you for making time for us. >> thank you for what y'all are doing. texas is also easing restrictions even as cases of coronavirus continue to rise. we'll head there next. and take. it. on... ...with rinvoq. rinvoq a once-daily pill... ...can dramatically improve symptoms... rinvoq helps tame pain,

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malls, and movie theaters began reopening. they are only allowing a quarter of their capacities inside. today texas state officials reported nearly 1,300 new cases. that is the second highest single-day increase there. it's the third day in a row that texas has recorded more than 1,000 new cases. the state now has more than 30,000 confirmed cases and nearly 900 deaths. nbc's priscilla thompson joins us from houston. hey, priscilla, what kinds precautions are these businesses taking as they try to reopen? >> reporter: joshua, as representative j.a. moore mentioned, most businesses aren't going to reopen unless they know they can keep customers safe because customers aren't going to want to walk through those doors if they don't feel safe. and so you have restaurants here who are implementing reservation-only systems to make sure they're abiding by the

capacity. we're seeing similar things take place in the retail stores also where markers are being put on the ground to denote how far party people need to stand in order not to be in the way of other shoppers and limiting the amount of people that can get on elevators, for example. but in texas we're also seeing something else. there's some businesses that have simply decided not to reopen. there are a number of malls in the area that are continuing to offer curbside service, the same with restaurants offering pick up/to-go. even though museums and churches do have the option to reopen, a number of them say that they're not ready to do that just yet. >> what are residents -- >> the younger generation, they don't even identify with safety, respect, a life. so that's the problem. i'm old. i don't want to leave here. that's a gamble. i hope people believe this.

>> reporter: so you heard from that gentleman here. he's actually a resident of sunnyside, which is a neighborhood that i'm in right now in houston. it's one of the areas that has been most impacted by the virus. and he was telling me it doesn't matter if you're old or young. he doesn't feel anyone should be going out at this time. he actually lives within 100 feet of this mobile testing site in his neighborhood and he told me he's seen the hundreds of cars that have come buy bihere to get tested and he doesn't feel it's safe to go out just yet. >> what else are you hearing from residents about easing these restrictions? are they basically saying what he said? >> reporter: yeah. i mean, i think people appreciate the option of being able to run into a store, but they're not ready to just go out in that way just yet. i spoke to a woman who said she needed to buy a pair of shoes, so she popped into a store, but she certainly wasn't browsing and perusing, and i think that is a lot of what we're seeing here as folks are grappling with

what the reopening of the economy means. it's going to take time for people to feel truly comfortable to go back out in the way they used to. >> just because they opened up the stores doesn't mean the customers will actually show up. thank you, priscilla. that's priscilla thompson reporting from houston. this week raised new medical questions about how we can defeat coronavirus. let's discuss them with dr. lipi roy. it's good to see you. >> you too, joshua. >> you are in the room. we're in the same room. >> a miracle, amen. >> a vast building and now thankfully there is more than just me and the floor director. i'm so happy. >> yes. >> let me talk to you about this analysis from cnbc. they analyzed the world health organization daily covid-19 situation reports. cnbc found that yesterday the u.s. had more than 2,900 deaths in 24 hours. that's highest daily death toll in the u.s. it is worth noting that the overwhelming majority of people who do get covid-19 tend to

survive, but in light of the what we've learned so far, what do you make of these states reopening? >> yeah. so if you really just look at the data, just look at the trends, the number of cases, the number of deaths in this country continue to go up. we're not really seeing on a national level any kind of plateau and certainly not a decline. so if you just look at those statistics, it tells me as a doctor and public health professional that it's just not really safe. remember, we also don't have widespread testing, so the state leaderships that say that in our state or our county it's not that big of a deal, well, what's that expression, you don't know what to c what you don't know, right? how do you know you don't have a problem. >> a number of protesters we've seen, not all, but some have said that the u.s. didn't power down this much during the spanish flu back in 1918, which is false. the u.s. did have some measure akin to social distancing, a

number of businesses did shut down. so that is incorrect. let's share a piece of a 2007 study from the nih about that pandemic. it reads in part, quote, cities were public health officials imposed multiple social containment measures within a few days after the first local cases were recorded. cut deaths rates up to half compared to cities that waited a few weeks to respond. it goes on to read, quote, the second study also shows that the timing of when control measures were lifted played a major part. cities that relaxed their restrictions after the peak of the pandemic passed often saw the reemergence of infection and had to reintroduce restrictions, unquote. so does that give us an inkling of when states open too soon or got it right? >> if the folks are going to look at 1918, and i recommend that they do, but make sure that

they don't pick and dhochoose t data, because the cities that had the lowest mortality rate practiced the most stringent social control. so this idea of physical or social distancing and contact tracing, these terms we're using very commonly now, these are not new. we have been using these terms and these public health tools and measures for as long as human beings have existed because that's how long epidemics have existed. >> there's plenty of concern about a potential second wave. we're still if the first wave, but what do you think that second wave might be like if there is one? >> yeah i mean, it's hard to predict. what that wave will look like will be determined by how we act now, right? so if we continue to practice really stringent physical distancing, hand washing, staying at home, wearing masks, these are tried and true measures in the absence of

widespread effective treatment, prevention, and cure. so right now if we continue to practice those measures, it's possible that the wave will not be so bad. but remember, we may have a summer and fall wave when we'll have influenza. we know that's coming. so it's going to depend on how this virus acts in terms of seasonality and in terms of what we do as a nation. >> in terms of those treatments, there's a medication, remdesivir, that i definitely want to ask you about. the fda granted emergency use to use remdesivir on severely ill patients. dr. anthony fauci said he feels really good about it. it's one of the few drugs that we have a large survey sample double blind placebo study on. what do you make of remdesivir? >> yeah. dr. fauci, though, also added cautious optimism and he made sure to be very clear that this is not a cure-all. so to your point, joshua, it's

been studied and been shown to be effective really on a small subset of patients. these are patients with severe covid-19 infection. it's been shown to reduce hospitalization in the icu state from 15 to 11 days. that's promising, right? the fewer days you are in the icu, the better. last christmas i visited my parents and toronto and my father was in the icu for respiratory conditions. we were begging the doctors to let him out just a little bit earlier. obviously i know as a doctor it's based on clinical outcomes, but the fact that he was able to make it home just before christmas was meaningful. so i really get that sense of hope and optimism. and the fact that four days is better than nothing, right? but it's really important to remember this has only been shown to provide some clinical improvement in severely ill patients and in a subsets of

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are, what you do, how long you do it, who you do it with, you gave permission for that when you hastily read those terms of service and clicked agree. no wonder silicon valley is considering ways to use this astronomical data set to track condone. some companies are looking at ways to help with contact tracing. critics say this goes too far with our data. nbc technology correspondent jacob ward is here with more. what exactly is it that these companies are aiming to do? >> hi, joshua. they are trying to help out by doing what they have always done, which is track what you do, where you go, and what you're likely to do next, mention t mention the who you've been around. the concept of contact tracing has been understand by epidemiologists, you have a human investigator go through your past, you've been in a place, you got sick, they find out what flights were you on, who did you have dinner with last week, what bus line do you take to your job, by doing so

they're supposed to go back to find your contacts that either might have given at you virus or you might have given it to. the problem is, here in california, one estimate is that a county contact tracer is expected to be able to do the contacts of at most maybe two people a day. that is not enough for the number of people we're going to have to trace to get through this thing. and so wales is tech good at? it's good at scale. on the assumption that most people have phones, apple and google have come together among many, many other companies -- my inbox dings every day with a new company with a new contact tracing app we can do. all these companies have the ability to do that. find out who you've been close to, where you've gone, and all of this make this possible. >> one company in particular has been raising questions about their intentions. tell us about them. >> we reported this week that clear view ai, a company that gained notoriety for having been willing to walk across an ethical line nobody was willing

to walk across, was getting into this game. clear view ai creates a facial recognition technology that's sort of like a search engine for faces and matches your face to if they can get a picture of you, to anybody -- to the same face online. and that's something that google, amazon, microsoft have been capable of doing, only a couple of them offered those kinds of services. most people shy away from it, but clear view is open about it. they told us on monday in an exclusive that they are in talks with federal and state authorities. i should say, we've been in touch with all 50 states, reached out to multiple federal authorities. nobody will confirm that this is happening. but here is how the ceo describes the possibility of using existing cameras to find where you've gone. >> we think that a lot of retail spaces and gyms, they already have cameras that are there, and there is the expectation that you're in a public area. so there's no -- necessarily

expectation of privacy. the camera is there in case crime happens. they can now be repurposed to help track anyone else who has had the virus. >> so it's obvious that this could -- we don't know if this works, let's be clear, we have no idea if this would work. but what critics are saying to us is, if this even were to work, would it give up a degree of privacy that we really would never get back? are we willing to bargain with that on the chance that it might get us out of our houses faster? >> thank you jacob, that's nbc's jacob ward, appreciate it. before we go, how much longer can we binge our favorite shows when hollywood is on hold? there's my career,... my cause,... my choir. i'm a work in progress. so much goes... into who i am. hiv medicine is one part of it. prescription dovato is for adults

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>> hey. who were you supposed to call this time? >> i don't care. i have an idea. and i need your help. >> hold on, i'm getting another call. >> oh, merge it. trust me. >> hey. >> hey, guys. >> hi! >> oh, my god. >> oh, my god, oh, my god, oh, my god. it finally happened. >> that was a very cute episode. parks and rexha parks & rec got the cast together again for an unusual episode. the vast array of great tv shows makes this lockdown a little bit easier, but you can only do so many special episodes from people's homes. series like the "mandalorian" or sunday night football, those have to be made in person. how long can the tv business endure this lockdown before our viewing options get thin? let's discuss with nmr tv critic eric duggens, who is also nbc analyst. eric, good to see you. welcome.

>> yeah, man. good to see you on msnbc. >> i know, i've crossed over. i'm so sorry. but let's talk about safety. there's been reporting that productions will have to start writing indemnity waivers and making cast and crew sign them, in case they should get covid-19 on the job. what do you see as the practical path forward for some of these big-ticket productions? on the scale of the "mandalorian," for example. >> yeah. i think it's going to be hard for production to come back until there's capacity to do quick, reliable testing of people who will be working on these productions, to find out who might be asymptomatic and have the virus and who doesn't. we have already seen performers and staffers in different media companies get sick and die from this virus. so i think it would be tough for a studio or production company

or a network to demand that people go to work, and not be able to assure them that they're entering a workplace where no one has the virus. or, at least, that they have some idea who hasn't or who doesn't. >> how are the networks doing, including streaming networks, with their supplies of new shows? is anyone at risk of not having much to offer this year? >> yeah. well, i think the broadcasters have been hit the hardest because they need the most content. and they, also, have the least that they can hold back in reserve. the lockdown brought a halt to the tv industry, right in the middle of pilot season. so i think a lot of the networks haven't even necessarily completed pilots for the new shows they might have picked up for the fall. and so i think they're going to have the most trouble. although, you know, they've already announced summer schedules. so they have their summer programming kind of ready. i think in the fall is when they're going to have problems. netflix has already talked about, and some of the streamers have talked about, the fact that

they work a little further inner -- in advance. and so they may have already filmed a lot of the shows that they're planning to roll out to people this year. and post-production can be done remotely, and netflix says that it's doing that. for example, they are planning to roll out the fourth season of "the crown" this fall. they don't expect to have to delay that. >> right. >> and we've been seeing hbo has been moving back some of its more anticipated movies and dramas. but they're still presenting new material all the way through the summer, according to the schedules i've seen. >> before i got to let you go, i want to go through some of the shows you are looking forward to and some that i'm looking forward to. let's look at your list of your shows you're looking forward to first. hbo's "i know this much is true" unbreakable kimmy shsubmit. and quiz from amc.

if you look at my list, we do have quiz in common. i'm looking forward to that, too. i stand the mandalorian. i cannot wait for season two on disney plus. and we are freestyle love supreme, which is a documentary on hulu about the improv hip hop group founded before he did "hamilton." i have seen them live. they are amazing. before i let you go, eric, what's at the top of your list? which one? oh, sorry about that. npr tv critic and msnbc media analyst, eric duggens. he probably hung up on me to go start dvring things. thank you for making time for us on msnbc. do dvr us because i will see you back here tomorrow at 3:00 p.m. and 9:00 p.m. eastern. but, until we meet again, i'm joshua johnson. do stay safe and stay sharp. we'll get through this. good night. i just love hitting the open road and telling people

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thank you for being here. i want to start tonight by introducing you to dr. jane wilcox. she is a cardiologist. she works at northwestern medicine in chicago. >> before i started this role, i was nervous and a little anxious facing a different disease process than i had ever seen before. i trained during h1n1 and, while i remember the occasional sad case of a young, healthy person, succumbing to this disease, i was not prepared to enter into an entire unit and multiple units, with droves of relatively healthy patients, who were now fighting for their life with covid pneu