hey there, i'm joshua johnson. good to be with you today. this hour we'll answer more of your questions about coronavirus. we'll take another trip across america as more people head out of the house for retail and recreation. by tomorrow more than two dozen states will reopen businesses in some form. they are home to more than 146 million people. arizona, indiana, kansas and

nebraska plan to ease some stay at home restrictions. is this the right time? are people ready for it? the evidence is mixed at best. all of this comes as the country gets closer to 1.2 million confirmed cases and more than 67,000 covid-19 deaths. we begin in new jersey on a gorgeous day to be outside. gentle wind, 70 degrees. good weather for getting fresh air. some parks and state beaches are open. the state has the second highest coronavirus outbreak with more than 120,000 cases and almost 8,000 deaths. yesterday, new jersey's governor phil murphy called this weekend a huge test. he warned that those reopenings would close back up if in his word, knuckle heads, ignored the safety measures. msnbc lindsay reiser is in new jersey.

i understand the board walks are closed but the beaches are hope. have you noticed any knuckle heads? >> reporter: well, as you mentioned, it's really nice day to go to the beach. people here are taking notice. you can see there's a lot of people behind me. i have to tell you, not a whole lot of people are wearing masks. yesterday, was as equally a beautiful day. the deputy mayor said she was happy to see people were socially distant, at least six feet on the beach. police stepped up their patrol. they gave out 20 to 25 warnings to people reminding them to put their masks on and socially distance. this has been really hard on the jersey shore communities. this board weak has been closed for more than a month. all these places, ice cream parlor, restaurants and bars are all mom and pop stores. at the same time you have to weigh the risk with having the beaches open. the deputy mayor said this is a

privilege that can be taken away. let's listen. >> i hope people understand that if you crowd this beach, we'll issue an executive order and shut it down. nobody wins when we shut the beach down. telling people to stay away but stay away so you can come back when this passes. >> reporter: she tells me this community, the population is about 15,000 here. they have about 147 cases. today, we're probably seeing the same amount of people that we saw yesterday because the sun was out yesterday. it was as equally as beautiful day. she was happy with what she saw yesterday. officials want to be seeing people wearing masks and staying socially distant. we should mention, you mentioned at the top, that a cross the stats of state of new jersey, state parks are open and county parks. it really will be a test. >> thank you.

the jersey shore is one coastline welcoming people back. this is the first weekend that beaches in texas are open without restrictions. it's part of governor greg abbo abbott's plan to restore his state's economy. his stay at home order expired on friday hours after texas reported its largest single day total of covid-19 deaths. right now the state has almost 31,000 confirmed cases and more than 900 known deaths. it's about 80 degrees at the galveston seawall at the gulf coast of texas. priscilla, galveston's beach vs been closed since late march. how crowd redirect examination they now? >> reporter: joshua, there are lots of folks out here at the beach today. officials tell me they have seen a few hundred thousands since prids friday when they reopened. you have some folks with families trying to practice that social distancing but i think

folks realize it's a bit of a double edged sword. i saw a man complaining to a life guard about what he felt was the lack of social distancing but mind you, that gentleman was here on the beach walking his dog and he didn't have a mask on. that's sort what we're dealing with here. we see not a lot of folks are coming out in larger groups. they are trying to keep it small. officials say it will become harder as more people come out to maintain that social distancing. take a listen to what the beach patrol chief told me. >> they seem to spread out more than usual. i have not seen a lot of masks. there's certain areas and certain times and places where it doesn't seem like social distancing is a thing. it's not even in their correspondence ne consciousness. we're focused on lifesavering and a bit of law enforcement stuff with the beach patrol and our fire and police are strapped trying to maintain what we're

spe supposed to do. we hope the public will take responsibility on themselves to reduce social distancing and reduce the spread. >> reporter: it's really on people to sort of come out and practice that social distancing on their own. i do want to point out that something that someone mentioned to me is when the beaches are packed, those restaurants across the street at the seawall can still only operate at 25% occupancy. they are not able to accommodate all the beach goers. you see some crowding happen as people are waiting in line to get a table at many of these restaurants. >> thank you, priscilla. more people are getting back to work and more people working means more people shopping, including for products in short supply. that's why costco is limiting various purchases of meats. they will only be able to buy three beef, pork or poultry supplies a t a time.

first responders and health care workers are skip the line to enter the warehouse. we've heard a lot in the last few weeks about governors clashing with mayors on how to fight coronavirus. that includes in arkansas. its republican governor set a number of restrictions. he did not issue a stay at home order. he also blocked local leaders from setting stricter guidelines. arkansas has more than 3,000 covid-19 cases. a phased reopening of non-essential businesses begin to tomorrow. joining is frank scott, the mayor of little rock, arkansas. welcome to the program. >> thank you so much. i appreciate this opportunity. >> how is little rock doing now? >> little rock is founded on the opportunity to get through a

situation presented before us. we're navigating through the unchartered waters and remaning cautious and confident as we figure out how to move forward. >> what's your next step in getting businesses in little rock reopened especially because there's this difference between what the cities can do and what the state does? >> the next step is unvail our rebuild the rock plan around may 15th and how we ease into regular operations from a business standpoint here in the city of little rock. last week we actually took advantage of the cares act funding from the housing and urban development program. while the payment protection program was a good program, there were many businesses unserved and under served and left out. our program that we'll unveil tomorrow will help those businesses that are 20 people or less and sole priorities,

independent contractors, our barber shobs, beauty salons. we really want to hit to the group ground of our small business community here in little rock. >> how has communication between you and the governor? do you see two eye to eye? is he listening to your concerns? >> we have a very good relationship. we visit almost daily. we're both focused on what we can do to protect lives. as we move together in state, it will take a measured approach. at the end of the day, it's founded pofr what can we do to save and protect lives in little rock as well as in the state of

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uncertainty loomed over this year's college decision day. it's typically marked by excitement and optimism. college financial aid appeals are surging in this coronavirus outbreak. it's thrust thousands of families into financial security. nbc julia jester is in baltimore with the latest. what are you hearing from students in the area about how

they are dealing with all of this uncertainty and where their priorities are? >> some students are optimistic they will be heading to their freshman dorms in fall, many are taking a financially practical approach. i spoke with one senior named m maddie who planned to go away to north carolina but decide on local university because coronavirus prevented her from visiting the campus. another senior was planning to go to virginia tech but she worked with the school to allow her to go to community college for a year and instead, go to her dream school in the fall of 2021 so she could save money since her mother wasn't working as much because of coronavirus. take a loon to what sisten. >> i would say it's mostly about

financing because i was out of state student. it was going to be more, cost of tuition. when coronavirus hit, it was like, if it's already probably not going be full campus life and online classes, why would i pay out of state tuition for that. >> even student who is have made deposits by that may 1st deadline told me that might change if their schools go exclusively to online learning and with more than 400 colleges and universities extending their deposit deadline to june 1st, it's really gives them a chance to get a plan in place so they can communicate that with students and parents and really convince them to enroll at their schools. >> it will be interesting to see how many students do make some alternative plans about where they go. i wonder how universities are

responding to this rise in financial aid appeals. is it possible for schools to make financial accommodations for students struggling while still paying their own bills? >> i spoke with the president of loyala university in maryland and says the school has received a record number of financial aid appeals this season. the other university area, presidents and officials told me that flexibility will be key in enticing students to come whether it's extending dead lielie liep -- dead lilines and allowi gap years. really trying to tread water until fall of 2021 when they can entice transfers to come in and just stay afloat. they know they have to communicate and work with students. it's an uphill climb as we could see a 20% decline in four year institution enrollment in fall

2020. >> it will be interesting to see how much of that decline in four-year institutions carries over to two year institutions like state colleges and community colleges which in many cases, are fantastic alternatives for your first two years to save a lot of money. thank you. there are good stories happening around the country. let's take a minute to look at some of them. . a zoo in salt lake city is reopen again. it took a while to disinfect all the parts of weeks that anyone other than the zoo keepers has been able to see the animals. fishing boat captains in key west, florida take people out on charter trips. mike had no customers for weeks. monroe county is closed off to every one but residents now. he decided to put his boat to good use and keep fishing so he could give his catch to people in need high pressure he says he's given away more than 600 bags of fish.

in colorado, hugs and kisses for elderly loved ones were replaced by balloons and handmade signs. they spell out the words that every one wishes they could say face-to-face. the residents of cherry creek retirement home had been feeling the strain of having no visitors. families and neighbors threw them a parade. one resident said in her 97 years of life, that was the best parade she's ever seen. next, we'll shift gears to politics and get the latest on the sexual assault allegation against joe biden. plus there's new reporting on president trump putting the economy over public health. we'll get into that and get the white house's reaction and we will get to your coronavirus questions starting with our medical panel just ahead. stay close. cal panel just ahead stay close what do we want for dinner? burger... i want a sugar cookie... wait... i want a bucket of chicken... i want... ♪ it's the easiest because it's the cheesiest. kraft. for the win win.

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who do you believe? joe biden or tara reid? that's one question surrounding

reid's allegation that joe biden sexually assaulted her when he was a senator. that has drawn sharp comments. the governor said she believed dr. christine ford against brett kavanaugh. >> why do you believe biden and not kavanaugh? are they both not entitled to p presulgs of innocence of their political views? >> as a survivor and feminist, we need to give people the opportunity to tell their story. we have a duty to vet it. just because you're a survivor doesn't mean that every claim is equal. it means we give them the ability to make their case and the other side as well and to make a judgment that's informed. i have read a lot about this current allegation. i know joe biden. i've watched his defense and there's not a pattern that goes

into this. i think that for these reason, i'm very comfortable that joe biden is who he says he is. you know what, that's all i'm going to say about it. i resent the fact that every time case comes up, all of us survivors have to weigh in. it's reopening wounds and it's take us at our word, ask us for our opinion and let's move on. >> nbc political reporter ali joins us now. after that clip, the cnn jake tapper contextualized because she was the only democrat booked and not because she was a woman and survivor of sexual assault. what is the laitest? >> we know today was a day we thought we were going to hear from tara reid. joe biden came out with repeated denials of this allegation in several interviews with msnbc.

tara reid cancelled her interview that was supposed to be with fox news. she says because she's been getting threats and she want toed to make sure she had security in place before she considers any future sit down interview. there's the talk about what this complaint she says she files in 1993 might look like and where it might be found mp in terms of what's in it. we knew it was filed regarding sexual harassment that she was experiencing in bind's office. we knew it did not include talk about sexual assault. i want to read to you a text message that she sent me yesterday. she says, i filed a complaint sexual harassment but i'm not sure what explicit words on that intake form until we see it again. the question is, if we will see it again and how. we saw all of those different interviews from the former vice

president. his campaign really letting those speak for himself at this point. not really adding to it. >> the governor note shed is a supporter of joe biden. what are you hearing from other supporters, including form obama officials and the democratic national committee? >> former obama officials have been quick to point out that in the extensive vetting process that biden went through to join the ticket in 2008, no kinds of sexual misconduct allegations came up during that time. you and i both know those are extensive processes of looking into these people who might become the vice president, campaigns do them and they are extensive. obama officials pointing that out. then there's also the reality that there are more calls for transparency for biden. he said the national archives is where he thinks this personnel related complaint might be. he wrote to the senate to look for and find and if they find, release the complaint. on the other hand there's this

troef trove of documents for his time in snats. those documents are sealed for two years after he leaves public life. there calls for the documents to be released. it hits at an old scar for 2016. >> this is like the hillary e-mai e-mail. there was nothing there. barack obama trusted joe biden. i trust joe biden and those investigations have been done. >> all of this comes against the backdrop of president trump. that's who joe biden is going up against in november of 2020. trump himself has multiple allegations of sexual misconduct lodged against him ranging from inappropriate touching to sexual assault. joshua. >> allegations as well as a tape for that. his treatment of women that he considered fair game because of

his wealth and status. thank you. president trump is planning to win re-election largely on his economic regard. new reporting from the washington post suggests that push might be coming at the d t debt -- detriment of public safety. the model reportedly showed fewer fatalities than initially predicted. he denies projecting how many would die from covid-19. other officials say he did make projections. in any case, this model reportedly helped the administration remain doubtful of the severity of this virus and remain bullish on the economic case that is key to the president's re-election plan. monica alba is at the white

house to discuss this further. have we heard any reaction from the administration to this washington post article? >> reporter: we have. this is a rare instance in which the white house is issuing on the record statements specifically to the washington post for this reporting. we're hearing from someone who doesn't speak in this capacity and that's presidential son-in-law jared kushner who argued they have risen to the occasion and reacted with what you heard him talking about in his own framing and view, a great success story in terms of what the federal response has been. the washington post reporting is significant because it raises question questio key questions about how they made this calculation. you saw the pivot over the last couple of weeks of the white house now wanting to turn all of its attention and emphasizing the reopening of the economy. that comes as we're nearing more than 1.1 million cases. 66,000 deaths. to have kushner present this as a great success story, something a lot of democrat and critics

are pouncing on. you have the white house press secretary participate ng that piece. so many are wondering why mb like kevin haset left and came back to handle some coronavirus questions is potentially coming up with these models and these death tolls when he is not directly involved in that. he is an economic add visor but it gives light into what went into some of this decision making with certain people in the white house pushing for greater economic opening, potentially sooner than what was ready while health officials still very concerned about a large dets toath toll. it's too early to know which models will be right given the original projections of 100,000 to 200,000 american lives lost may still happen but we have

exceeded the 50 to 60,000 range that the president indicated was more likely already many the last week. >> with regards to those economic models, mr. hases said we may not need much help from the federal government to get the economy back on track because the virus could go away. let's play one of him last night and one this morning from the daily briefing by new york mayor bill de blasio. >> a lot of states could march through the phases and the economy would turn back on earli earlier. it could be the amount of stimulus we put in right now is enough. >> this is not a disease that walk away and leave us alone and go quietly into the night. we'll have to fight it back if we want to rid ourselves of it. look, the darng is bounce back,

a boomerang where the disease seems to be going away and reasserts and the cases come on more and more and the numbers go up and more and more people are afflicted. >> at one point, he got like, look kevin, if you come down i'll show you why we need a stimulus. he kind of fired back. where does this potential, additional stimulus stand? is there plan for another one? >> reporter: there are ongoing discussions as national economic counsel director larry kudlow said there's a pause on that right now. they will continue to be in touch with leaders on capitol hill to see what might be necessary in the days and weeks to come. there's a promise of more money for small businesses after you saw the first two amounts run out so quickly in the paycheck protection program.

it's unclear when and how. officials say they believe there could be an economic bounce back and that will be critical to the parking lig president's re-election campaign pitch. that is notable. that will be a big part of his pitch. the other thing that is important to mention is there's a big jobs report expected this coming friday. the white house is bracing for that to be very tough. >> thanks, monica. all right. let's set politics aside and hear from some actual medical experts, doctors indeed. their answers are based on what we know now and may be different from what you heard them say in the past. please consult your doctor or financial adviser for advice that is right for you.

we hear in news about seemingly healthy young people become seriously ill with covid-19. we do not hear if they are smokers or heavy drinkers. what do we know about the impacts of using alcohol, marijuana, vaping products? is anyone attempting to correlate the drinking habits with covid-19 patients. i would think it's a sno braine that smoking weakens your lungs and this is a disease that attacks the lining on the inside of your lungs where oxygen transfers to your blood stream but is anyone quantifying that? >> hi. it's obvious point that you just made.

nobody should fool themselves in thinking this smoking or inhaling anything other than air is going to do you any good and especially now when we're worried about specifically about the lung impact of the coronavirus. we need to now figure out how to stop smoking if we're still doing that. you don't need a greater incentive than this coronavirus virus. smoking is not good. we should start really ridding ourselves of this habit right now. >> quit.gov has a lot of resources. i think i gave a woman on the street a dirty look because she had no mask and cigarette. i didn't realize it. she gave me this look like what. i was like, please don't quick me down steps.

is the meat processed by those companies safe to eat? should we have any concerns? >> the workers in the meat plants are the ones we need to be most concerned about that. that and disruption of the meat supply. when it comes to individuals consuming the meat being at risk for contracting the virus, i think the chance or the risk hasn't increased with this new information. we have been seeing for weeks because meat should be cooked to a temperature that should kill off germ, there shouldn't be an issue there. whatever packaging the meat was packaged in. it travels for a number of days before it gets into your refrigerator during which time

the virus is most likely to die on the surface of those packages. if there's any concern, as we always say, disinfect the surface of the package and wash your hands after handling and before eating. >> ellen asks, the w.h.o, the world health organization, says there's no eftd people have immunity from getting covid-19 again if they have recovered from it. as i understand it, vaccines work by giving you some safe or killed part of the virus so your body creates antibodies to the virus. how could a vaccine work if having antibodies against covid-19 doesn't protect you from getting infected? >> this is also a really good question. we do get antibodies after we

had the disease. how long and how protective those aentntibodies will remaine being researched. we are a long way away from having the answer. we're hoping that we will get a vaccine that works. we don't know for sure if that's going to happen or when it's going to happen. i think we should be hopeful that a vaccine will be protected for a year, two years, maybe more. it just remains to be seen at this moment. >> i'm curious to know if staying isolation we're weakening our ability to fight off other mallties. are we putting ourselves at more

risk of non-covid illnesses once we leave isolation? >> this is a really good question. the viewer is asking about acquired immunity. we're born with certain defenses that are referred to as our inmate i innate inmun system. it's highly unlikely you'll erase that after a few weeks or morn movn months. i would venture to say younger people, like our children, maybe they are not getting that robust immune education the way we would like them to. i don't think it would be enough to set you back to where you were when you were first born with the very immature immune

system. i think you'll be okay. >> one last question before we have to pause. here is one from brad who asks. i live in south carolina and i'm 99% certain i contractsed covid-19 before it was in the news cycle. my state department of health was no help. how can i get an antibody test and have my data recorded as one of the presumably earlier cases in the east coast? >> there's lots of reasons for us to want to get brad to be checked now. it's only happen ng a few research places. there's a few in new york. he should keep pushing his health department to let him know when they will have the test available and there may be some research left in his state that are able to do those tests. i'm pretty sure there probably is. we're still at the early stages

of being able to test widely enough for the presence of antibodies. every one wants to know if they are positive and many, many people have the decide before testing for it. >> if the two of you would stay with us. we'll get some more questions. i gave you that address for resources for kwiquitting smoke. it's smokefree.gov. up next, you've asked us a lot of questions about stimulus checks and ppp loans. we'll get you some answers, next. we'll get you some answers, next still fresh... ♪ unstopables in-wash scent booster ♪ downy unstopables we hope you find our digital solutions helpful to bank safely from home. deposit a check with your phone or tablet.

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let's get to some of your economic questions. sharon epperson is back to help with that. >> good to be here. >> let's start with a question from dee. i'm 18 years old and no longer staying with my parents. i live on my own but last year i wasn't so i was claimed as a dep dependent. does this mean i won't get a stimulus check? >> it's important for dee to understand the stimulus payments are advance tax credit for your 2020 federal taxes. if dee falls into the income category making less than

$75,000 and would qualify for a $1200 payment she may be able to get it next year when she files her taxes be. this year no, it's not going to come. it's a possibility she could see money in 2020. >> sierra says i own a small business in california.finally loan. what happens if i don't get full forgiveness. are there any options? >> you have to start paying the loan back six months after it's disbur disbursed. you compare that to other loan programs and it's still a good rate. it's very important for borrowers to understand the terms in terms of what they are borrowing and make sure they only request the money they need

to cover payroll and they don't take out too much. >> i imagine that's making it clear these loans may be forgivable but that doesn't mean they don't expect you to try to pay them back. >> exactly. >> an anoun mounymous viewer san will we get our payments? we're still waiting. i'm worried we aren't going get the stimulus money. >> you're going to get the money. it's going to be directly deposited into your bank account or if you use debit card, you'll get it that way. if you get paper benefits from ssi, it will come that way. however you sever yoreceive you benefits for 2019, that's how you will get your payments. treasury department says early may. >> let's see if we can squeeze in one more question from donna. on april 15th, i checked my mother's checking account and

saw a $1200 stimulus check had been deposited to that account through the irs. i'm trying to find out how to return it. can you help? i'm not the only person whose deceased loved one has received this money. she died in december 2019 and i was going to notify the irs when i filed her taxes. >> she's not alone. many relatives have experienced with with a deceased loved one severing a stimulus payment. the treasury secretary said the money should be returned. they have not given any clear guidance as to how to return the money. the key point is don't spend it. make sure if you have the check for a loved one that's passed away hold on the that payment,p save the payment. >> thanks very much. before we go, how far do germs spread when you cough or sneeze? the rapid fire round is next. sneeze the rapid fire round is next ♪all strength,

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laser light therapy? i've been hearing about ozone therapy too. >> i think the distinction is what works in lab or petri disk as opposed to human consumption and internal therapy. neither of those is promoted by any organization. there's no known medical application for it. >> do the flew and pneumonia shot together protect you from coronavirus? >> no. >> short and sweet. thank you. because there's more direct sun at beach, does that mean the transmission rate of the virus will be lower there? >> no. this kind of gets to the issue of do heat and humidity mitigate some of the transmission. while that will is theoretically possible, i can throw out some examples of hot and humid areas include the dominican republic that is seeing a tremendous

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