>> what the ftc has said when the subject matter ranging into the topic, then the call is transformed, and it's -- it would have been a lowed -- >> you heard that right. it brings me to li'l wayne lyric, two words you never hear, flush and watch them go down the drain, quick. that does it for us. good night. \s \s good evening. from new york i've steve kornacki. president trump reversed course today on the most public aspect of the administration's response it was only yesterday, that the president made the surprising announcement he intended to wind downed the official task force, but today, less than 24 hours

later. he announced, quote, that the task force will continue on indefinitely with the focus on safety and opening our country again. now, that task force has become almost universally known to americans through the very public presence of two of its key members, doctors anthony fauci and deborah birx. who participated in the press briefings. they booth have also given countless interviews answering questions about what officials have been learning about this vire and its spread. fauci became famous enough that brad pitt impersonated him on a saturday night live. >> i had no idea how popular the task force is until actually yesterday when i started talking about winding it down.

i got calls from very respected people saying i think it would be better to keep it going. so we'll be keeping it going, but we'll be adding people to it, actually. >> this reversal comes as trump continues to try to turn the focus to the economy and encourage states to begin reopening. as the critics try to turn the page on this crisis long before its over. when asked yesterday why he was dissolving the task force, the president said it was, in part, because he objected to keeping the country closed downed. >> we're now looking at a different form. that form is safety and opening. we'll have a different group probably set up for that. >> reporter: can you just explain why is now the time to wind down that task force? >> well, because we can't keep our country closed for the next five years. >> trump indicating that the move now to shuffle the membership of 9 task force is part of his push to begin

reopening the economy yesterday the president acknowledged even a limited opening will lead to new cases. on the question now is will the increase be more dramatic or more moddist? i'm joined by peter baker, a correspondent for "new york times." what happened here? 24 hours ago it was going to be wound down. now it's back up and running. what changed the president's mind? >> as the tape indicated, i think he was surprised by the blowback. there are a lot of people out there who do not see this as being in our rear-view mirror. 9 totals have only gone up, not down. though things seem better in new york, but the rest of the country is seeing more deaths and cases, not fewer. so i think that blowback obviously got to the president and made him understand that people are not ready to move that quickly. polls show that by a factor of

usually about two to one, people would rather stay closed longer, even at a rink to the economy than open too quickly at a risk of substantial new cases and deaths. that's a calculation that's difficult for my president, any governor to make, but at this point, you know, the president is showing signs that he is impatient to move forward, the economy is obviously hurting so much that he wants to begin to reopen as quickly as possible. the question is how much. the task force is still up and running, but the president saying he wants to focus on safety and opening up america, indicating there might be new members of a task force, might be a shuffling taking place. do we have a sense of it? are fauci and birx going to be public faces of it? >> dr. fauci and dr. birx will remain members of the task

force, they're telling us, at the very least nominally. whether we'll see them as much as we have, probably not as much the clearly the president wants this task force to reorient the mission, on how to reopen safely and quickly as possible. that doesn't meaning it's entirely an economic-based committee. he has a number of advisory committees he's created. he he can use a task force like this to talk about precautions that were necessary, what kind of ramping up of testing and equipment would be helpful at this point. are states abiding by the guidelines that the cdc put out t. and so far we see about half of the states are moving toward, you know, reopening in terms of whether it be beaching parks, golf courses or even some businesses, but a number are doing so without meeting the federal guidelines. the question is, how is a president going to react to that? the president so far has

remained relatively quiet on states going further than his government is recommending. "new york times," your paper, also reporting on a team of volunteers that jared kushner brought into the administration to help secure critical materials from potential vendors. drawn from private capital and venture capital, and many of these were told to prioritize tips from political allies and associates of president trump, tracked on a spreadsheet called vip update, but few of the leads, vip or otherwise, up and down out according to a whistle-blower memo written by one volunteers and sent to an oversight committee. the work that jared kushner has been doing, there's certainly been plenty of criticism of it. it also involving trying to ramp up testing storks what is the

status of the work? how much progress has been made? how much problem has left? >> of course, this is the mission that jared kushner declared a fee days ago was a great success story. there has been equipment distributed. the air bridge flights that have come in from other countries. the trick is, as our reporting showed, bringing in these friends of his from private business, as motivated by the idea of getting entrepreneurs who can cut through bureaucratic red tape, the reality is they didn't have the experience to help them figure out what really is necessary and how to move this equipment in a quick and efficient way. so a lot of these tips brought in by political cronies, friends, allies, even a fox news host ends up weighs in, rather

than a systematized program run by experts that have done this in the past. we saw the cost of that in some of the e-mails my colleagues obtained. >> thank you, peter baker, for your time. will the nation just have to accept the idea by reopening, there would be more cases? more deaths? >> i'm calling these people warriors. and i'm calling now the nation has to be warriors. we can't keep the country closed down for years, and we have to do something. hopefully that won't be the case, john, but it could well be the case. but we can't have our whole country out. we can't do it. the country won't take it. it won't stand it, it's not sustainable. as governors continue the process of limited reopenings of parts of their state economies,

cases are still rising, including in some less densely populated state. for more i'm joined by doug jones of alabama. senator, thank for you joining us. i'm curious, big picture, how you look at the goal right now. we were told about two months ago we were intersection av intense mitigation phase. people were going to stay home, it was going to be a huge hit to the economy, going to flatten the curve. you're seeing the curve flatten in a lot of states, seeing the plateau, not going down, kind of plateauing. where does that leave us? what is the goal? how do you balance reopening with the human cost? >> well, that is i think the big question right now, steve, how to balance. one of the problems we've got right now is the american public is so interested in trying to get back to work, to enjoy life again, where they've been shut down.

that when we start talking about reopening that's all they hear. what i would like to see is a flipping of the narrative when we talk about, look, we want to start reopening, but here's the big key. we've got to wear the masks. we've got to continue to do the social distancing. people are pent up, but we've got to maintain and do this gradually. we have to do this in a safe and healthy way, and i think most businesses want to do that. i think people by and large will do that, but we've got to give that message. we've got to not only deliver that message, we have to show people, wear the masks ourselves. when i was at home and around here in d.c. this week, i had a mask on every time i walked outside, whether it was in my apartment building or on the street. i always had a mask. i think we have to demonstrate that. let me ask you about what's going on in alabama, the state you represent. we're talking about in alabama retail stores being allowed to

reopen but there's a cap there. beaches in your state can reopen, you can't have more than ten people together, is that a good balance? is that too much? too also? just right? >> no, i think the -- is the enforcement. then when it comes to retail, churches, those things. i think what people have to recognize is how important those guy are. i think governor ivey did a good job of making sure she hit that balance, to let people come out and do those things. it's not only up to the enforcement. it's a real culture change. people have to start getting

used to this for a bit longer. we do not have a vaccine, we're not going to have one for a while. we've got to make sure folks understand that you can transmit this disease without showing any symptoms whatsoever. so we've got to make sure people do that. i think that balance is there. but even in alabama, the models that everything has used, steve, all of a sudden has shown projected deaths to go up from like 300 to 2300 by the first of august. i am sure and i hope the governor is taking a look so we can see where we will go in the next step which will come at some point. >> i'm curious, you mentioned the scary projections about where this could be going in the next few months. when you think ahead, let's say six months or so into the fall, alabama, that's the football capital of america. it's like a second religion down there that's the kind of thing

will we have university of alabama football? >> what we do today, what we're doing right now, this month and next month will depending on whether we have that football. that's why -- hopefully we will be able have that. they are talking about they want to have their kids come back, but they have the caveat. i think we'll end up having football some way. i hope we have fans in the stands, whether it's a full stadium or partial stadium, which will raise all kinds of

issues if you start parcelling out football tickets. we have to understand that we still have only partial control of this virus. it is still out there. it's going to be out there, and what we do today is completely dependent on how much we get to do this summer and next fall. >> senator doug jones from alabama, thank you for the time. >> my pleasure, steve. take care. coming up, how do states safely begin returning to normal without risking loss of life. what if the american people don't believe the politicians who say it's safe to open up. stay with us. >> i'm hopeful that the government is going to come up with more funding for the small businesses that still need that money that haven't received it, and i'm very hopeful that our government is going to take care of the big businesses as well as the small businesses alike. i field certain it won't be too

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i've given the leeway to the governors. if i see something wrong, i will stop it, you have some governors, most of whom i have great respect for. they're working very hard, watching closely, but we have given leeway to the governors to make those decisions. welcome back. governors in 38 states have taken steps to begin partially reopening. arkansas governor asa hutchenson was one of those governors, the first phase is under way. gyms and fitness centers reopened. large outdoor venues, with audiences of fewer than 50

people were allowed to reopen, along with places of worship. today close contact businesses, barber shops, hair salons, tattoo parlors, they can open up at, and they were massed out at 30% capacity. next monday dine-in straints can start at 30%. and may 18th, large indoor venues can start with audiences of fewer than 50 people. right now there are more than 3500 confirmed cases in arkansas. 83 people have died. asa hutchenson joins me now. i appreciate you joining us. you hear this all the time when you hear of any state beginning this process, they say the testing is not in place at the level it needs to be and if you

starts -- and with that, there are going to be more deaths. what's your reaction to that? >> first of all, it's good to be with you. we didn't have a shelter in place order. we had a targeted approach to dealing with the coronavirus now that we're at this stage, we're looking at the numbers very carefully. we're not just opening it all up at once. we're doing a phased-in approach, where we can measure where there might be a problem. in terms of our testing, we met all the criteria for phase one opening. the importance is to do the contact tracing, do all our mel and healthcare professionals and workers, and then also to be able to respond if we have an outbreak. we've got that capacity. we want to build it more. our goal this month is to do 2% of the population in arkansas,

which would be 60,000 tests, but we have a good sense as to where we are. our trend is going down. it's been downward for 14 days. we're going to have some outbreaks here and there. we want to be able to do the tracing to control efforts, and that's how we're going to balance having an economy that can survive, but at the same time making sure we're able to suppress any new outbreaks or positiveses we sigh in a particular area. i'm looking at that 12 feet of distancing, capping 50 debt outdoor venues, reservations required. one thing i'm curious about, we're also seeing in polls, people are reluctant to go out and, you know, frequent any

businesses. do you think the combination of that reluctance from consumers to go and reengage, and all these restrictions in place, is this going to make a big difference? are they doing a lot of work here and they're just not good et any customers? >> it varies. whenever you look at some of the small shop owners, they had no income. they were drying up and they were desperate. they also also had the customer demand. some of those small shops have opened up. some of the largest venues are not opening up. they have said we'll wait until we get into phase two. that's wonderful that those can actually make their own business judgment based upon demand, based upon their own circumstances. you don't want to say we going to wait until june 1. and you can see the protective measures in place. my daughter went to one today.

everybody wore masks, they had their protective measures in place. they had reservations. people had to wait outside. others are saying we'll open up later. so we're doing it carefully and will continue to do it carefully. >> may 18th you will allow indoor venues to open. one of the first live music shows since the beginning of the pandemic is set to take place in your state. bloomberg reporting that travis mccreedy is set to perform an acoustic set on the 15th, that fan pods will consist of 2 and 12 seats, allowing attendance down to 229 fans, or 20% of normal capacity. fans will also have to wear

masks and have their temperature checked. reading your guidelines and reading the description, they're selling tickets for this, some things seem to be at odd. are you aware of this concert? what are you expecting here? >> i was asked about it yesterday and a public health official said we'll look into that, because you could have an audience of more than 50 in phase one, so that is something that needs to be looked at. clearly they're trying to accommodate a more socially distanced concert, but that's still too many in this environment for that type of a venue. it's a difference whether it's outdoor or indoor, but that sounds like an indoor venue and that would be problematic. >> governor, thank you for joining us. i appreciate it. >> thank you. still ahead, how do you balance economic recovery against the insee scapable human toll? two on medical professionals

will join us, share their concerns, their perspectives, that is next. >> it's really hard, because i don't know when i'll get another job. i also don't know if i'll get unemployment, so it's been a very difficult time. oyment, so a very difficult time.

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the reality is the economy won't reopen the way we want as

long as the virus is circulating. i think consumers will be very nervous in engaging in the kind of activities they did before. so there will be a consistent drag on the economy as long as this is circulating enough that there's concern you can get it. >> that's dr. scott gottlieb. after weeks of containment measures, states have allowed reopening of businesses on a limited scale. today republican congress mast andy harris of marland, who is himself a doctor, argued for stay-at-home orders. >> we're cipher from death if we're not born, right? i mean, the bottom line is there's some element of risk. >> we are entering a new phase in the fight against the virus that pose miswrenching questions. the curves are flattening in many states, but the virus is

still very much alive. a vaccine is a long way off. what do we do? dr. leena winn warns this, quote -- the consequences of easing restrictions are all too predictable, because the science around covid-19 has not changed without a vaccine or cure, the only thing keeping the disease in check is keeping people separated from one another. on the other hand, dr. david katz, the founding director of the yale grivg prevention research center, argues there are dire consequences in leaving all of the restrictions in place. he writing this, quote -- what if those are a year or more away? then we suffer the full extent of societal disruption the virus might call for all those months. the costs are staggering to contemplate. dr. winn and dr. katz joins me now. thank you both. i'm looking forward to the

dialogue. dr. katz, let me have you lead it off. you're basically arguing that there is a trade-off here and we're not paying attention to one side of it. while we focus on trying to prevent as many fatalities as possible from this disease, the act of doing that could be causing wreckage of its own. if you could detail that. >> what i was talking about was social determinance of health. we learn things like poverty and unemployment and food insecurity and desperation, destitute,

there's not been a reported surge in sue sides, those are the things i'm talking about. there's also potential neglect of other medical conditions, because essential it's covid ever news cycle, so people have chest pain at home. they think i need to stay away from the hospital because it's filled with patients full of covid. so there's all sorts of unintended consequences. what i have argued throughout is we need to look at the big picture, the ways that this situation can hurt people. absolutely getting infected did hurt people. there's a vulnerable segment of the population, older people, for which this is a very dangerous infection. i've seen this up close. but poverty can hurt people. long-term unemployment can hurt people. i'm suggesting that we try to devise policy that looks at all

of that and minimizes the total harm. i think the dialogue is moving in that direction. >> dr. winn, do you agree on those factors that dr. katz is talking about? if so, how do you envision this in the period of no treatment or vaccine? >> i agree that this is a complicated picture and something we don't really have the answer for. it's not like we have the perfect solution, but i think we need to start with a different premise. the premise needs to be that we will reopen. it's just a question of when and what capabilities we need to have in place. i fear if we reopen we'll let the virus loose. we don't have the basic public health infrastructure that's

needed, that in fact we have seen in other countries has been successful in reducing the virus to levels that are acceptable. i fear if we do this, we're essential going to let loose a virus and we'll end up with preventable deaths that we could have stopped. we have the science. we have the data to tell us what's working. by the way, if we have overcrowded hospitals because of covid, we'll also be forcing other patients who have they chronic conditions to go out medical care. i also worry to the point about social determinance of health, the people who suffer the most are those who already face the greatest barriers to care. and if we reopen, we're making a decision not only on behalf of ourselves, but on behalf of others. we're not just sacrificing ourselves, we're sacrificing other lives.

dr. katz, let me but you to respond, hey, let's wait until there's more testing, a contact tracing system and then get to the reopening. what would you say to that? >> three things. first of all, i agree with leena entirely, but we shouldn't be talking about data we can't get. there's discussion about millions of tests, and we won't have the resources. that is an impasse. we need representative random sampling. 20,000 tests, 30,000, 50,000, but in the right population to extrapolate to the whole u.s., so we know how many people have had this already. so that's point one. point two, the virus is already widespread. s se se seropreviousliens suggested in new york, even in hard-hit new york, the fatality rate is a

small fraction of 1%, and that's concentrated in the elderly and people with chronic illness. we' all i've ever advocated for is fid i the riskses double down on protecting people who cannot safely get through this infection because of a risk of a severe bout. landing in the icu or dying is way too high. leads identify the people whose riskses they would be confronting is like the risk they face every day by going to work or crossing the street or being exposed to any of the other infections that were out there all along. this is not an equal opportunity scourge. this is a bad disease in a small segment of the population and a very mild disease for poll people. one final point -- this is where there tends to be the greatest controversy. if we are going to ever get our lives back before there is a

highly effective vaccine, mass produced and administered to everybody, and that's optimistically 18 months, but we don't know until it's done. it could be years away. the only way to get back, is have it and get over it. we really do need people potential where they get exposed, because immunity is how this comes to an end. dr. wen, i want to get your response if you can do it in about 40 seconds. >> we don't know that herd immunity exists, number one, number two, i don't want the rest of the country to look like new york at its peak where there were thousands dies. and there are better ways for us to do this. if we came together and said we need the tracing, the testing, a national coordinated effort in order to save lives, we can do that, but we need federal leadership, and we need that

right now. >> dr. leena wen, and dr. david katz, thank you. i enjoyed listening to both of you in this conversation. up next, it is time to forget sometimes -- it is hard to forget this is happening in a presidential election year. basically, folks, trump versus biden, we got a new poll. i'll take you through it, right after this. i'll take you through it, right after this get real-time insights in your customized view of the market. it's smarter trading technology for smarter trading decisions. fidelity. hold on one second... sure. okay... okay! safe drivers save 40%!!! guys! guys! check it out. safe drivers save 40%!!! safe drivers save 40%! safe drivers save 40%!!! that's safe drivers save 40%. it is, that's safe drivers save 40%. - he's right there. - it's him! he's here. he's right here. - hi! - hi. hey! - that's totally him. - it's him!

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not true. there's a huge parse san divide that's driving it. but you see a big chunk that say it's probably true. there's a bit within the democratic party, but in terms of gender, you found this interesting, more men 39% than women how is this affecting the race for president? here is the same poll. look at that, unchanged the monmouth has been showing a biden advantage. other polls continue to show this as well, a high single-digit lead over donald trump, right now 50 to 41. again, there is a gender gap here among many narrow lead among women, a join lead for joe biden.

that gender gap has been really in the trump era it's been accelera accelerated. you see this white college/noncollege divide, a white collar/blue collar divide. biden is just cleaning up among whites with no college degree, complete opposite story. it's trump who is cleaning up there. by the way, the other piece of news this week in the presidential race was a third-party candidate emerging, justin amash, says he'll run for the libertarian nomination. it's a seven-point lead for biden. so we will check that amash factor as this race continues. still ahead, i've been looking forward to this all today. the host of "bar rescue" will join me talking about the massive challenges facing the

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by the end of the year. as states begin to open up, more than a dozen are allowing restaurants to reopen, but each have a patchwork of rules. some states allows 50% full and others 25%. others provide strict guidelines on social distancing. regardless of the procedures, they need customers to feel safe enough to design out again. in a rest poll from "the washington post," it shows that 78% of americans even if they could they wouldn't be comfortable eating in a restaurant. i'm joined by the executive producer and host of "bar res e rescue" where he whips bars into shape. >> iyou're not a hospitality gu. you are warriors fighting for each other. i'm a big fan.

you say, speaking of that that about 40% of local bars in this country, you think aren't going to make it out of this. first of all bars are the last one to have open. they tend to put people closer together. in a lot of these regulations, they're talking about restaurants with 50% capacity, but what the details say is no customers can sit at the bar. no customers can walk up to the bar. they have to be seated. there can be no stand upareas. this impacts the bar industry far greater than the impacts the restaurant industry. what scarce me is we as an industry, we're spending so much money sustaining ourselves during a time when we can't make money, i'm worried when it does start to open up, we won't have the resources to open properly. you give advice to bar owners on your show all the time. what's the advice?

your show specializes in bars that aren't working. let's say there is -- i'm going to suggest that some case with his some bars maybe we should wt a few weeks before we open. maybe we should allow the marketplace to build confidence. you know, it's interesting, steve, before this pandemic, you would go to the restaurant that would have your favorite hamburger. today you go to the restaurant that has your second favorite hamburger if you think it's safer. safety bubbles to the top of the priority list in all customers. we have to build trust as an industry. people need to understand that we're taking the steps that we need to to assure their safety and then they'll start to try us again. first, it starts with trust, then it starts with some business. >> let me ask you on the restaurant side of this. we mentioned restrictions in each state. some 50% maximum. 25% requiring masks, requiring gloves. can these restaurants make a

buck doing this? can they make enough to survive? is this feasible enough for them? >> i worry very much about that, steve. that's why i'm concerned we lose 40% of them. with 25% capacity, i mean, we couldn't survive with 25% of the viewers that we have now. so no industry can survive with that type of it. all of all the friends and thousands of restaurants i communicate with every day, i know of a couple that are actually doing okay. they have changed their business. they're selling family meals to go for four with vegetables, potatoes, meats, dessert and packaging it at $39. they are doing unique merchandising programs. traditional approaches won't work now. >> we're talking about the vaccine supposedly is a year, year and a half, two years away, any treatment is a long way away. we're in this period where the virus is just there and we're talking about trying to reopen

parts of the economy and balance it. that's where these restrictions come from on 25% capacity. is that -- do you see anyway around that for restaurants until there is a vaccine, until this is a cure for this or do they have to deal with the limited capacity in these new rules we're talking about? >> they have to deal with it for a long time. i simplify this. i think one-third of the marketplace will come back out. i think one of third of the marketplace, the next third i call the reserved third will watch what happens with the first third. they want to trust restaurants, see there are no surges and then come out. the third third is the certain third. they're not going to come out until there is a vaccine. they might have preexisting conditions, might be a little older but what concerns me, steve, it's also a more after

flu went audience. if i owned a restaurant in most markets, i'd wait. i'd open in a month or two with a splash. i'd wait until market place trusted us and open with a grand opening rather than everyone right now and fight for it. >> the restaurants doing innovation with takeout and delivery in states where you can't have in person dining but restaurants are allowed to do delivery in multiple cities passed laws that cap the commission food delivery services can charge. i'm curious from a consumer stand point -- excuse me, from a restaurant standpoint, these delivery services are charging a huge commission here, talking about grub hub, uber eats. can restaurants make money with those fees or do they need to find a new way? >> a new way. delivery used to be a sideline for us except pizza. it was an unnecessary evil.

it was easy to use third-party delivery services. now delivery is more than half of our business this will change. we'll see restaurants sharing delivery drivers. we're going to see pooling of resources. we're going to see a lot of restaurants step out of the third party delivery box. it's not sustainable with the economics we have now. >> i got to ask you this, as a fan of the show and i mentioned at the top, have you thought about at all when this is over, when this show can start again, what the first show is going to look like? any special episode you're working on? >> it's exciting. you've seen hurricane episodes and stuff where we helped successful people that lost their business due to mother nature. this is not very different. we see a different version, a resetting america version where we go into great historic restaurants and great historic vein y venues and get them reopened. a i llot of businesses are

important to our marketplace. the restaurant industry is the largest i'm pl est employer in other than a federal government. once we trust, we need to order and the industry needs to get you to trust. then it's up to the consumer to order. >> i got to tell you, there is a twitter handle out there that rates the backdrop that all the gu guests have from their home cameras. you'll win it with the backdrop you have there. thank you so much for joining us. >> my pleasure. good to see you. up next, celebrating nurses in this minute when their work is more crucial than ever. stay with us. is more crucial than ever. stay with us

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[ applause ] [sirens] >> thanks to them. thank you for being with us. don't go anywhere. "all in with chris hayes" is up next. good evening from new york. i'm chris hayes. we got a lot to get to on our show tonight including coming up, we have stacy adrabrams we' be talking to. a lot of people, including me, noted, as the white house urges states to reopen there is no plan to stop, suppress or mi minimize the spread of the coronavirus. that's mostly true. it's not completely true. i was thinking about this today. there actually is a plan. it just doesn't involve you or me. we see the plan on full display in the president's own daily