i'm ali velshi. economic relief. maybe there's home i can go back contact tracing in the west wing to work and this recession won't as the trump administration confirms a second case of be ex-setended for years and ye. coronavirus overnight at the that's important too. white house. the first was the president's >> next phase is may 18th. personal valet who serves his if texas doesn't see a big spike in covid-19 cases. meals. then yesterday the vice if you say the "houston president's press secretary chronicle" may be wrong, that is katie miller. when phase two is opening. married to the aide stephen barber shops and gyms and bars. miller. trump said the concept of tests are you prepared on may 18th, if is not great. he is satisfied with the the evidence doesn't support it, procedures in place to protect nine days from now, to not him and his top aides. this is just wrong. it shows the virus can't be kept support further reopening? >> actually the governor is very clear. there won't be additional out of the white house which is the best protected place in openings unless we are continuing the pressure on the america and the office of the virus and see positive outcomes special counsel found evidence as well. i appreciate it. of the removal of the he does a couple of things whistleblower from the health different. and human services was increasing testing to historical retaliatory and should be stayed levels. contact tracing is key. while the investigation plays out. he is putting as much onus on here is what dr. bright told cbs the customers as he is the

news. >> i'm frustrated at the lack of workplaces. self screening and social leadership. i'm frustrated at the lack of distancing and wearing masks urgency to get a head start on where the cdc requires it. this is not an automatic developing life-saving tools for reopening. it is based upon the health americans. i'm frustrated at our inability conditions. i know a following of the local to be heard as scientists. hospitals and health care providers feel as long as the we see too many doctors and pressure maintains as the nurses now dying. governor is, that we can reopen and i was thinking that we could and do it in a good, smart way. we will not take our eye off have done more to get masks and that health care ball. supplies to them sooner. >> kevin, i worry about you. i want to keep our conversations if we had, would they still be alive today? going. i want you and your people to >> all of this is happening as stay safe. states across america emerge please stay on this. we'll continue to talk about it. ranking member of the ways and from two months of stay-at-home means committee. orders and some try to get back to business. kevin brady, thank you. the numbers tell the story. let's head north to in all, 43 states are easing restrictions as 300 million pennsylvania which is slowing reopening. joining me from penn state americans begin the process of reopening and moving local university. economies forward. the united states now has more nbc news correspondent mara

than 1.3 million confirmed cases barrett. there was going to be graduation of covid-19. weekend. no sadder weekend of what people the number of deaths has are supposed to be doing than students graduate from college surpassed 78,000. or high school. in the case of state college, on friday, the april jobs report this weekend, not having showed the u.s. lost a record graduation is a major hit to the community businesses. 20.5 million jobs as unemployment spiked to 14.7%. one of the biggest weekend. >> reporter: exactly. the highest level since the ali, this is the first round for great depression. a recent poll shows 70%. 24 counties in northwestern pennsylvania to move from red to 77% laid off or furloughed yellow phase. retail businesses can reopen and workers expected to be rehired clothing stores and not nail once things get back to normal. salons or hair salons. joining me now is senior white at penn state, there are house reporter shannon normally 50,000 kids on campus. pettypiece they were sent home two months shannon, earlier this week, mike pence was out not wearing a vest ago. the small mom and pop shops can saying everybody on his staff reopen, but they are threatened has been tested. he is tested all the time. of getting back to business. the president asked why he the third generation owner of doesn't wear a mask. he said it makes him look stupid. harper's, a men's and women's now we have two people very clothing store. close proximity to the president he talked about the impact of and vice president who have being closed and missing parents tested positive.

>> yeah, ali. things hit home as the white weekend and graduation and house this week. getting sales from parents and students is not going to be i know a lot of us have been short-term. through this experience someone take a listen. in your place gets sick or >> for stores my size, this is family or close in the community going to take months and months gets sick. this is the first time this is if not a year to work our way really come home for the president and vice president. out of. we have a plan. we plan out for the year. there's been some peripheral the buying cycle for us is people who have become infected. this is the closest it has not usually six or seven months out. even to the president and in the you know, we have a plan that takes us right now through west wing. two cases back-to-back. you mentioned the valet. october. that plan is changing. someone close to him. >> reporter: the plan is serves his meals in regular changing because a lot of his manufacturing and people he gets contact with the president throughout the day. the other person, the vice orders from went bankrupt. s they closed the business from president's press she caecretar. covid-19. we see the trickle down effect we know she traveled with the from big business to small vice president this week. she has been in close contact business across the country here with a number of task force in pennsylvania. ali. >> mauerra, thank you. members. including the fda commissioner who is in quarantine. maura barrett. we need to build a new i know white house sources tell us he was furious when he found bridge.

it's not going to be pretty, but out his vale, it w trkt was inf. we are going to get there. oing . are now in here. so sources tell us lava level mad. that's why we're still offering fast, free two it appears there are additional day shipping on thousands of items. even the big stuff. measures in place. increasing testing to daily from and doing everything it takes to ensure your safety. weekly to people close to the president. so you can make your home... i don't know if we have seen the full fallout of the infections everything you need it to be. at this point. wayfair. way more than furniture. >> shannon, you and i talk about the economy. that is the main story here. the whole concept of pushing to reopen states before health officials and professionals suggest it is a time to do so is to mitigate the economic damage the president is so concerned about. unemployment now at 14.7%. a record number by a long shot of the number of people who have lost jobs in april. the president continues to move toward the idea that this will be back soon and it will be okay

soon. >> that's his strength. but if you look to the land, it's a whole different story. the economy. his advisers know if they hope from farms to backyards, wheels are turning. to get him back on the economy, they can start getting momentum seeds are being planted. animals are getting fed. in his favor. and grass is growing. so eager to talk about the and families are giving their all to the soil economy and economic message and because no matter how uncertain things get, despite the fact we are stuck at 25,000 cases a day and 1,000 to the land never stops. so to all those linked to the land, we say thank you. 2,000 deaths a day and continuing to push the focus on we're here for you because we all run together. the economy. look at where we are at this week with now infections and within the west wing. it was a week or two ago that jared kushner was saying this would be all behind us by summer. the vice president said by memorial day this would be largely behind us. now what will happen to memorial day? the press secretary is out of quarantine. that is where we are going to be at memorial day. there are so many levers the white house has to pull to mitigator contain this. there was a report out by the

cdc guidelines shelves that they may put back in place. the real strength is to get momentum back on their side is focus on the economy and make this an economic story. they feel that is the strength the president has. the economy. >> shannon, thank you. senior white house reporter. shannon just mentioned the cdc guidelines shelved. 40 states are partial alley oly at the urging of president trump. sending back the cdc guidance. the trove of emails shows the top public health experts at the cdc spent weeks working on guidance only to see the work quashed by political appointees with little explanation. joining me now is the director of the national center for

disaster preparedness at columbia university. i want to talk about this for a second. i've spent the last week reading the various projection from the university of washington and columbia and from johns hopkins and other places. penn has one as well. the cdc guidelines are very specific about how restaurants should open and what people should do. the kinds of things that people who need to think about what work is going to look like or what business is going to look like would need to know and read and follow. why do you think that would be shelved? >> shelved because the fact is you cannot really safely reopen businesses, restaurants, barber shops, et cetera, unless you have a much more robust method for rapidly testing and reliably testing people. it gets down to a local issue. the economic issue and gdp and

unemployment. it's important. what will matter now as we reopen is is your barber as states begin to look positive or not? there is no way around that from ahead to life after quarantine and isolation, things are going the public health point of view. to look different. there is no way of spreading business we simply enjoy may no covid-19. the fact of the matter is if we want to reopen, we have to see longer exist. jobs could be gone. we will not come out of significant drops in the case isolation unscathed or will the economy. we can do the besto ease the rates and hospital rates and so pain that's going to come. on. if you want to take your family so far, we have taken major to the favorite local restaurant like i would like to do myself, steps to band aid the struggles you need to know the kitchen with loans and stimulus checks staff and servers and everybody and ex-tended unemployment. else in the business does not trillions of dollars in aid have the coronavirus. otherwise, we are putting a lott packages. the temporary fixes will not get us where we need to be in the is to do testing. long term. we are moving way from the we have to have very wide immediate emergency decision of the pandemic and desperately disburoulprocess need to build a bridge to the

to make sure that in some cases new normal. some of the leaders, each we on every single day people that are the show discussed sweeping dealing with the public changes for the future that is face-to-face,s especially in close proximity are given a now slamming up against us. we also need to focus on the covid-19 test. medium term. >> let me point out. basically what happens after i want to read what the september? president said yesterday about when so much of the emergency the person on the staff who got federal funding stops. coronavirus because it we need a plan to address the represents a fundamental needs of what will surely be misunderstanding of testing. tens of millions of unemployed he said he was talking about katie miller. americans. she tested very good for a long those whose jobs may no longer period of time. exist. a plan to help us get from one then all of a sudden, she tested month to the next without losing positive. she tested positive out of the our homes and ability to feed blue. that's why this concept of tests our families. are not necessarily great. about 32% of americans are the tests are perfect. expected to have trouble paying something can happen between a test when it is good and then bills this month. fewer than half of americans something happens all of a have enough savings to last sudden. she was tested recently and three months. that one-time stimulus check of tested negative. today, for some reason, she $1,200 is likely long gone. tested positive. that's how tests work. we need clarity to make you test negative until you get decisions like whether we keep the infection. our businesses running longer or then you test positive. keep staff paid after september >> that's the point. 30th when government support for just another demonstration of doing so ends. we need a plan like the one that

ignorance. the problem here, ali, this is not just some guy. canada has that provides access this is the president of the to income monthly, directly from united states and the vice president who are projecting the worst mixed messages and making it difficult for people to the federal government, until after the pandemic ends. understand what they're supposed we need a plan to provide relief to do. i stopped at a convenience store financially and psychologically. what is happening to millions of on the taconic parkway last week americans is too much for the mind to handle. everyone across the country has to be able to rely on a system and they were not wearing masks. i am in gloves and masks. that promises stability as we walk into the future. they said when the big guy a system that allows us to get to the other side of the bridge starts wearing a mask, i will. they have no understanding of with inintegrity. how important the impact is of what they do and what they say. getting to the new normal is going to be hard. they are living in some sort of it will take years to once again strange world of not see the growth and prosperity to which we have become accustomed. understanding the power of those bully pulpits those people we are all in this together and together we will get there. alright so...oh. here occupy. it is just if phenomenal. here is the other thing. why would you possibly quash what the cdc says? by the way, where is the cdc?

i am a big fan of anthony fauci and dr. birx. they're smart. the cdc should be out front and they are nowhere to be seen. it is incredible, ali. >> i'll talk to my friend kevin brady in a second. i want to ask about something. i read the modelling. there was controversy if models are projections or aspirations or whatever it is. in a lot of cases there is a low end and high end. no change in stay-at-home orders at the low end. at the high end, all restrictions lifted. in most cases, states are doing something in the middle. in the middle cases in all cases, the projections from the number of people who will be dead in america by the end of august are significantly higher because some states are opening up. middle case. in which some cases are restricted. we have 78,000 deaths in the united states. the median of the reports is

about 134,000. bottom line, if we lift restrictions before guidelines are immediamet, more people wil >> no question. i spoke to mayors of augusta and atlanta, georgia. georgia was the first state to reopen. the word that the mayor bottoms of atlanta said she was stunned i'll start... oh, do you want to go first? to walk the streets of atlanta no, no i don't...you go. i was just going to say on slide 7, and see people in close talking about bundling and saving...umm... proximity with no masks and walking in and out of jamie, you're cutting out. restaurants. it is just really frightening sorry i'm late! hey, whoever's doing that, can you go on mute? because we know that that will oh, my bad! increase infection and fatality i was just saying there's a typo on slide 7. bundle home & auto for big discosnouts. rate. mayor davis of augusta said this i think that's supposed to say discounts. is an absolute train wreck. you sure about that? the governors will have very hey, can you guys see me? significant moral if not legal ♪ responsibility for the consequences of the rush to open without the proper tools which ♪ includes the testing we were just talking about and case the calming scent of lavender tracking, of course. ali. by downy infusions calm.

>> good to see you. thank you. laundry isn't done dr. redletter at columbia until it's done with downy. unlike ordinary wmemory supplementsr? neuriva has clinically proven ingredients university. more than 33 million that fuel 5 indicators of brain performance. americans filed for jobless claims and facing an uncertain memory, focus, accuracy, learning, future. >> biggest concern going forward and concentration. for myself and my wife and try neuriva for 30 days and see the difference. thousands of others is where are we at the end of this other side of the crisis? there will be permanent job losses. to what degree? who will it affect? what will the recovery look like? >> look, i know you have questions. just like those. that's why we will answer your questions. the ones you sent to my story. the personal finance questions. questions about the small business and your questions about how work will feel. what you should ask your bosses for. if you are a boss, what you should do. send it to mystory@velshi.com. i'll talk to kevin brady about his state and its decision to start reopening. are most u all right. right now, the nation is looking

tain, at another great depression or we turn to the most certain thing there is. at least data that seems to support that. in the last month, we saw 20.5 science. science can overcome diseases. create cures. million jobs lost. that's according to april's unemployment report which came and yes, beat pandemics. out yesterday. states are starting to look it has before. it will again. ahead to what goes on after because when it's faced with a new opponent, quarantine. at this point, the signs are it doesn't back down - it revs up. asking questions 'til it finds what it's looking for. murky. i want to bring in chief that's the power of science. so we're taking our science and unleashing it. economist with grant thornton. our research, experts and resources. you and i have been talking all in an effort to advance potential therapies through the great recession and and vaccines. all sorts of things. other companies and academic institutions it's been decades. you said this is the hardest day are doing the same. the entire global scientific community is working together to beat this thing. i have been as an economist. give voice to those who lost and we're using science to help make it happen. their jobs. so much. because when science wins, we all win. i respect those on the frontlines of the crisis every day. economists are not given to emotional responses to things. those are numbers we have never

theryou're not good enough. hard to control. and we're using science to help make it happen. seen billioefore. but i am enough. >> no, we haven't. i think it is important that and i know what i'm made of. people think of economists as put your skin in the game. looking as data as numbers. with a razor that puts your skin first. we know behind every data point is a person's name and life. from anyone else. that's really important. so why accept it from your allergy pills? it's something that people flonase relieves your worst symptoms forget. economics is a collective study which most pills don't. of human behavior. get all-in-one allergy relief for 24 hours, with flonase. what we are interested in is how we behave and react and get to a better place to all collectively behave in a way that gets us there. >> and you also wrote something i thought was interesting. a concept out there that we are just going to bounce back after this happens. you said the economy cannot thaw as fast as it froze as long as the water is covid tainted. president trump says we are coming back. as soon as the stay-at-home orders lifted. money and the economy is

behavior behavioral. >> exactly. you know, i wish we could just turn on the spigot as quickly as we turned it off with the covid-tainted waters. contagion is a threat and people are afraid. the collapse of the economy occurred not because of the economy, but before any school or state shutdown. businesses canceled meetings. people canceled vacation. stopped going to restaurants. all that occurred in an extraordinary way before we ever got to the point of actually going into the lockdown to try to stem the spread of the virus. i think it is really important. we need to come out of this on the other side. we have to be intentional of how we come out of it so we don't spread the virus and cause sort of recurring outbreaks that force people to pull back again. >> we have two realities. we have an overwhelming majority

of americans who say given the evidence and given the fact there are still cases rising. look at new york. it is not that way. in much of the country it is. this isn't the time to go back to work. we have 77% of people who say that they expect of the furloughed people, they expect their jobs back when this ends. i don't know how you parse those numbers. 77% of the furloughed people go back to work? how does this work when it comes to an end? >> that's the really hard part. furloughed and with every intent, employers are hoping we ramp up quickly. we need testing and tracing and we're so ready to open. treatments. do i want to be overrun? we are starting to get those to feel safe to manage the disease. i absolutely want to be overrun. i'll be honest with you. social distancing we know will i hope this place is packed. be with us through the summer if not the end of the year in a we will ask them to adhere. major way. if they don't -- worse case we that inhibits our ability to come back. will ask them to leave. i think unfortunately in the we hate to ask anybody to leave. hard hit sectors in leisure and >> the blind pig pub.

one of many businesses in texas that is now reopening. hospitality and retail, you will see a slow ramp up. governor abbott's decision to that will leave a lot of workers let stay-at-home orders expire to long-term unemployed. on may 1st and let select we need to think about the policies for additional relief businesses open at lower than and then stimulus on the other normal capacity drew high praise side that allows workers to transition into something else from congress member kevin grbry because i think the world that emerges on the other side of this will be similar, but not who said the governor opened a big can of common sense to the same as the one we left. reopen. americans are overwhelmingly >> there will be a world and against reopening the country history of stock market shows it now as it is going to result in more people getting sick and comes back and history of employment shows it comes back and grows over time. dying. joining me now is the ranking member of the ways and means as i was saying, we need a bridge. that bridge might be longer than you think. committee kevin brady. it could be a year if we get a good morning to see you. thank you for waking up with me. vaccine fairly soon or some >> i'm good, ali. drugs. after the last recession, it was a few years before some people got back to normal and how are you? >> i'm good. employment levels and wages got thank you, sir. you and i talk a lot. you have had a varied back to normal. background. what happens in the internterim? you have been a meat packer. we have things in place until you have been a waiter. you have been a bartender. the end of september with the you have been in the jobs we are $1,200 that everybody got.

worried about. people get close to people. we have seen it in meat packing plants. you are promoting the concept of wh what happens then from the end of september or for a year? the return-to-work bonus. >> sooner than that. if you go back to work, keep up many expansion to unemployment to two weeks of the unemployment insurance expire in july as the money. the money boosting unemployment to get back to work. payroll protection plan loans in your mind, you want people to expire and businesses have to get back to work quicker than make the decision of being age they want to get back to work. to have enough cash flow to >> my thinking is we have seen retain the workers they just the worst job numbers in your rehired and state and local lifetime or my lifetime for sure. april is the worst economic governments with mass layoffs month in 70 years. over the summer quickly as well. unfortunate i think our economic focus unfortunately, i likened should be to make sure the covid-19 as the iceberg and we temporary job losses are not need the life boats in the water permanent job losses. so we don't become the titanic. one, reopening safely and we need more life boats. i also really worry about the key. sheer number of companies even i think helping businesses small businesses that just won't remake their businesses to make be able to weather the storm and sure they are healthy and safe won't be able to reopen on the workplaces for the customers and other side of this and the mass their workers which i'm consolidation we will see that will leave the economy dynamic. confident they can do.

i also think it is important we we need a lot more relief and we rebuild our work force. right now, the federal need it from washington. federal reserve agrees with this. unemployment benefits pay more it is really important. the fed can lend. for half of american workers than they do at work. they can't spend. so there's no incentive to help at the end of the day, we need small business or local business the life boats in the water or reopen. i can see a return-to-work bonus the bridge built to get to the other side to have a dynamic where people can look at the base to recover from. workplace and make sure it is safe and get incentive to get >> diane, thank you, friend. back in with the employer to we will stay together through this and we will all get through begin opening the economy again in a safe and healthy way. it. diane swonk. that's key. >> so i would agree with you. chief economist for grant we have never seen numbers like this in our lives. thornton. thank you. we're at 78,000 deaths in the two months since congress passed the first round of coronavirus united states. in strevietnam, we lost 58,000. relief to give americans one-time checks worth $1,200. we are beyond that. let's go through data. since then, our country has "houston chronicle" cited the moved deeper in economic uncertainty as diane was saying. before coronavirus, 40 million week before texas saw the americans were food insecure. largest number of covid-19 more than 100 million were

cases. increase of 24% and largest working poor. now tens of millions more people number of deaths, 33% heigigher. are in need right now and last weekend was the first struggling families cannot wait weekend of texas reopening. for another temporary fix from saw a two-day record for the new lawmakers. they are losing their homes, cars and postponing kids' diagnosis of covid-19. last saturday was the second college educations. they are going without possibly biggest gain. if you look at the chart, i'll life-saving health care. going to work in dangerous show the general gain. in texas, there is nothing about working conditions right now. texas that suggests this is the there needs to be something moment to reopen. i'm with you. more. something to have a lasting i'm one of the guys that wants to get back to work. effect beyond a few months and why now? provide enough federal >> ali, i'm not sure that's the assistance to stabilize the most unbias in the world. economy. my next guest is swoworking to p what they did not tell you is people on payroll and guarantee a paycheck until the pandemic is the growth of new cases is over. slowing. hospitalizations last weekend >> joining me now is senator were down 13%. we have more recoveries than sanders. good could hato have you here. active cases. that doesn't -- we are testing we are having the conversation at near record levels. about what happens after september with the emergency coronavirus relief that congress everyone agrees with. you will see more positive has done comes to an end. the added unemployment benefits cases. the question is the severity of

come to an end. them. texas, like most states, is $1,200 check will have run out. still challenged with our senior living centers and experts saying we could be in vulnerabilities there. this middle state for some time i think it is clear. to come. what are you suggesting we do governor abbott's reopening is now? you have been talking to people. deliberate and phased in. you asked them to email you. it is based on the safe healtht. i asked them to email me to tell them about the current situation. they are dire. they will not be out of it in september. >> you used the word dire. i wish i could come up with a stronger adjective. it is horrible. we are hearing from people who have lost their jobs. they have no money. they are going hungry. meanwhi meanwhile, people in the family are sick. they cannot afford to go to the doctor. it is the worst moment, i think, certainly in my lifetime for the american people. what we have got to do is recognize that reality. that means that we must take

unprecedented action in the congress to protect the american people and we have got to do it now. there are a number of things that have to be done. we have talked about this before. i think we should do what europe is doing. guaranteeing every worker gets a paycheck. we should do what exists all over the world and guarantee especially in this crisis. health care is available to all without out of pocket expenses. we should do what canada is doing and make sure during the crisis people get a check every month for $2,000. we have to protect the postal service. in my state, we are worried about hunger. make sure people are not going hungry. we have got to recognize there has never been to quote you a more dire moment in the modern history of the country and we have got to act with boldness and we have got to act with compassion and we have to protect the working families of the country.

>> senator, we are under six months away from the national election. for somebody like you who is arguing both for big change on permanent basis and big efforts right now, what's the way you get that to happen? it's not entirely likely that a number of your republican colleagues in the senate are going to go along with what you suggest or what senator schumer or warren. you all have suggestions about what to do. is the answer in the election or is the answer in somehow convincing the president and senate now to expand government authority and expand government action? >> ali, i don't think it is either either/or. it is both. we cannot wait for a new president in january. we have to put pressure on the republicans. on issue after issue, all of the polling i have seen suggests that the american people are with us.

they understand that it is insane that in america that 20% of our children today are going hungry. that people are being evicted from their apartments or worried about losing their homes and not afford mortgages. people can't go to the doctor. people want the big, bad terrible government. they are ghbeginning to catch o in trouble, the government will be there for them. people have to act now. we have the support of the american people. we have to put pressure on mcconnell and trump to do the right thing. second of all, in my view, in this horrific moment in american history, we have got to reevaluate the basic infrastructure aspects of society. how does it happen that millions of people losing their jobs are losing health insurance? should we guarantee health care as a human right rather than employee benefit?

how does it happen that half of our people before the pandemic were living paycheck to paycheck? do we need to move to more income and wealth equality in america and end the disparity on the class basis and racial basis that currently exists? there is much to be, in my view, thought about in terms of moving to a new america with a different value system and different set of priorities. >> a few weeks ago, you and i were talking about a different matter. health care and food insecurity and there is this other issue coming in stark relief for americans. worker safety. we think we have laws. in workplaces, we have signs up on the wall that tell you what you are entitled to. in fact, there are not nearly enough safety inspectors or teeth in the safety laws to be managed and enforced. we are seeing more and more examples of people who cannot afford to not work and cannot

afford to say to employers they will not go in and subject themselves to possible illness and maybe death. what do we have to do in terms ? >> ali, first of all, you hit the nail on the head. the choice that trump is telling working people and these are low-income workers who will not work from home. often women. often people of color. we are saying we don't want to give you more nutritional benefits or we won't give you the income you need. we will give you the choice. if you live in financial disperation, you will evicted from your home or you can go to work. when you go to work, there may be a chance of likelihood that you'll come down with the virus. those are not choices that the american people should be asked to face. what we should be doing is at

this moment guaranteeing economic stability to every man, woman, and child where we can open up the economy, we do it safely with the appropriate testing and social distancing. but the trump point of view is a very dangerous and cynical and i think an horrific approach to the crisis. >> senator, our mutual friend shaq brewster has been covering the campaign throughout the whole thing, he says you're sort of sending some mixed signals about your endorsement of joe biden versus wanting to maintain some of the things that your followers believe in and try and get the democratic platform, sort of switched to be something more in line with what you believe. now, you and i have talked about this. you've talked about ways in which you can get joe biden to sort of meet some of your policies halfway. where do you stand on this? because you did endorse joe

biden. does that still stand? >> yeah, of course it does. there's nothing mixed about what we're trying to do. i have endorsed joe biden. i will do everything i can to see that biden is elected president. but in the meantime, i want to rally the american people in every way that i can to move joe into a progressive set of policies on issue after issue, and that's what we're doing. we're using our email list of which there are many millions. we're using our live stream capabilities to rally the american people around an agenda that during this campaign and after joe is president will work for the american people rather than big money interests. so i don't see anything contradictory about what we're doing. >> i will ask you, because in that effort, there is a speed bump at the moment. you know that tara reade has alleged a number of things against joe biden. she's called for him to drop out of the race. the dnc and other people

including elizabeth warren have maintained their support for him saying that his response has been credible and believable. what does joe biden have to do with respect to this particular issue now? >> you know, we're in a situation where we understand that for decades women were not able to come forward. they were penalized, punished when they came forward to make their case, and this woman has every right in the world to make her case. the media must do a thorough investigation. joe biden has been very firm in saying itn never happened. that's joe's point of view. of course joe is going to stay in the race. there will be an investigation that goes on, and we will see where it leads. >> you have introduced various pieces of legislation that are designed to help in this emergency. where are you on those? >> will, i think we're gaining some headway there, ali. i think the paycheck security act, which six or seven of us in the senate are now pushing.

the other day nancy pelosi was talking about -- i think chuck schumer is supportive of it and i will do everything i can to make sure we get that provision. there is an understanding that in this crisis people have got to be able to go to a doctor or go to the hospital without worrying about having to pay off these bills or not being able to get the health care that they need. i think we're gaining on that. there will be a real fight over saving the postal system. we have the president who has a real vendetta against the post office right now. if the post office goes under, i think it will be a disaster, not only for the employees of the postal service, but for the entire economy. we're going to fight as hard as we can to protect the postal service, and i think there is some momentum for the understanding that we need not just one rebate check of $1,200, but a monthly rebate check, and my thought is that that should

be $2,000 a month, similar to canada's, by the way, and something that kamala harris and i are working on. >> well, it's something that you've been hearing about from your people and i've been hearing about from my viewers that that $1,200, great idea, i'm glad congress could come together on this, but if people are going to be out of work for months and months and months and some of them don't qualify, as you know, for unemployment insurance, that's not going to go very far. thank you, senator. good to see you as always. >> thank you very much. >> senator bernie sanders. all right, we're just minutes away from the start of a special edition of "velshi," the covid-19 economy virtual town hall. still time to send your questions in, personal finance questions. small business questions, workplace questions, what your workplace is going to look like. my story@velshi.com. we've stay with us.

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good morning, it is saturday, may 9th. i'm ali velshi, the covid-19 pandemics effect on the american economy has been devastating resulting in tens of millions of americans now out of work. even for industries that sound safe, the trickle up effect of so many people not contributing to the economy, not out there, not eating, not shopping putting all of our jobs at risk.

in an effort to stem the bleeding, more and more areas are reopening. however, this reopened american economy is looking far different than the one that existed before the pre-pandemic. and americans are worried. they're stressed. they're confused about what this new normal looks like. >> the fear of the unknown, the stress. we'd like to reopen. we want to get back to work, but we want to get back to work safe. with ept we want to make sure it's safe for us, our co-workers and our customers. we need the funds to come in for wages and health care. several of my co-workers have said if it's not safe, they don't want to come back. they want to go back to work, but it needs to be in a safe environment. >> in these new times, you've got questions. you want direct, straightforward answers. normally when we have a show directly answering your questions, we host a town hall with a crowd of people in front of us. this hour in this new normal, we're hosting a virtual style town hall replete with the now

familiar images of high profile guests coming to you live from their living rooms. we put out a call on social media for your questions, and we have been overwhelmed by your response. over the next hour, we're going to try to ask our panel of personal finance experts, business ceos, venture capitalists, your questions on everything from what you should do in this new normal with your family's finances to exactly what you need to do to save your business and everything in between. my first expert panel with me this hour to answer your questions with their best