welcome back. i'm ali velshi. today marks one of the most unique mother's day in american history. more areas are beginning to open be it beaches and parks with social distancing in effect but things are far from usual and the anxiety is palpable. >> had the weather been nicer, i'm sure it would be hyped up more and i'm still a little bit nervous. >> again, there are guidelines.

they're not like strict rules and if you read through it everything pretty much says when possible. that's the gray area where we don't have definite answers. >> i feel like let's just see what it is and open it up and see if it will be okay. if it's okay we'll stay open. i was scared and frightened this morning. >> even if they open up, the more we stay away from things the safer we feel. >> three members of the white house's coronavirus task force dr. fauci, director dr. redfield and fda chief hahn are all now either in self quarantined or modified quarantine because of potential exposure at the white house. one of the president's west wing valets and vice president's press secretary both tested positive. the secret service also has 11 covid-19 cases. president trump changed up his plans to spend the weekend at camp david which he announced on friday to, quote, for meetings

on different things with joints chiefs of staff and the meeting held last night in the cabinet room. joining me now, chief white house correspondent for "the new york times" and msnbc contributor peter baker. on what it means for the public at large. peter, good to see you. peter, what's going on at the white house? the white house is proehl the safest place in the country. everybody gets tested all the time. and yet, coronavirus made the way in there the week that donald trump and mike pence sort of dismissed the idea this they might get coronavirus. >> yeah. this is a white house that's quietly by what happened in the last few days. of course, as you pointed out, they have two positive tests in the last couple of days, the valet who takes care of the president and the vice president's own press secretary. and a lot of people are now trying to review who they saw when, close to, how they're

proceeding in their own lives an getting mixed messages from the white house. they have not gotten a clear set of guide loons how to respond. three of the top public health 0 fesh officials to advise the president are self quarantined from being in the room with the press secretary and deeply involved in the coronavirus task force deliberations in the situation room. others are still planning to come into the white house and there's still no consistent use of masks or some of the other precautions. they get regular tests. the vice president and the president tested every day and anybody coming in close proximity to them will be tested every day and there's a lot of concern i think right now inside the west wing. >> what do you make of the white house's response to the obama call to his former aides and former staff? it's a weird thing. it was a phone call. i don't know how many people were on the call. might have been hundreds. the likelihood of what he said leaking was high and it did leak

so that shouldn't come as too much of a surprise to the obama folks but gotten under the skin of the white house folks. >> yeah. in fact, actually 3,000 people on the call, almost no chance to have a phone call with 3,000 people on a former president to not hear something about it. president obama's effort to engage his network, his alumni on behalf of vice president biden and the fall contest. he was scheduled to give this call for quite a while and clearly irked and upset about the move by the justice department to drop charges against michael flynn, president trump's former national security adviser, even though flynn pleaded guilty twice to lying to investigators. president obama said it was a concern for rule of law an gotten under the skin of president trump. president obama outside of the election context is largely quiet about the successor and we understand that he doesn't an i gree with him on many things but i think you are seeing the beginning of what will become a

bigger confrontation as the election starts to draw nearer. president obama feels strongly about this election, feels strongly that he is not going to sit on the sidelines and let president trump win a second term without him having a chance to at least tell voter what is he thinks about it. >> peter, i want to ask you about the decision by the justice department to drop charges against michael flynn. >> yeah. it's a very interesting moment. i think it would be getting a huge amount more of attention without this pandemic because i don't think you see this happen every day. our people asked other former prosecutors, legal experts. nobody can recall a time when justice department dropped a case against somebody who had already pleaded guilty twice without some change in facts. not a chang in facts hire. nobody's said that meekal flynn did something differently than we understood he did. he still as far as justice department's own description of the case didn't tell the truth in the conversation with the investigators, what they're

saying is the investigators should never have asked the question in the first place. they didn't have a legitimate basis to have that interview with michael flynn in the beginning of the trump administration and that, in fact, misstatements or lies that michael flynn admitted to telling were not material to an investigation, not deeply rep vant to it relevant. you will see the president now probably hold this case out as an example of how the justice system was out to get him and will motivate i think a lot of people on his side of the aisle to question the other charges or allegations made over time. that's what the president would like to do is undercut any allegation made against him and his people as nothing but a partisan coup. >> peter baker, chief white house correspondent for "the new york times." also a msnbc analyst and author of "obama: the call of history." all right. essential workers are going to

continue showing up on the job, there need to be protections to ensure worker safety. over the past month, "the washington post" reports that thousands of people working during the pandemic have filed complaints regarding their exposure to the novel coronavirus and a lack of safeguards at their places of employment. i want to bring in someone who led the government's response to workplace safety under president obama, david michaels is former head of osha and author of "the triumph of doubt." and joining me is ad rianna alvarez as a crew member in mcdonald's and a leader in the fight for 15 which is a movement pushing for higher wages an more worker protections. thanks to both of you for being here. adrianna, let's start with you. we have learned something in the few months of pandemic and that is that our view of frontline workers in a crisis has evolved.

right? we believe it's the police and the emts and the doctors and the nurses but now we're realizing that it is fast food workers, delivery people, trash collectors, doormen, it is everybody who has to be out there because they can't work remotely from home. you can't work at mcdonald's remotely from home. what are your fellow workers experiencing in terms of threat that didn't exist before? >> hi, thank you, good morning. thank you for having me on and as you said it is extremely difficult. we're scared of getting sick. coming in contact with other worker, cust mores, just having everybody realize we are not just burger flippers. we are essential workers is definitely something that wasn't there before. >> you are having trouble, i know a number of people having trouble enforcing that customers wear masks.

i have seen a couple stories in the last week in which employees of mcdonald's, i think one case somebody was shot actually getting into it with a customer because they were told they can't sit there to eat which is yet another problem because that's not part of the business you're in. the rules you have to enforce as an mcdonald's employee are typically rules having to do with you and work staff, not rules having to do with customers. >> correct. so it's hard. having to let these people realize, you know, covid-19 is extremely dangerous and we're getting paid the same thing we were paid before so we're putting our lives at risk for these people to feed them but yet we're not being treated as essential. mcdonald's says that they have done everything that they could but we just feel that it's not safe. we really shouldn't be working. we should have more protection and if the ceo of mcdonald's feels like -- i know he's come

out an said that they have done everything that they can, that their workers are on the priority but it's the profit and he should come on down and work with us. >> david, let's talk about osha and enforcement of safety rules. everybody who works in a place that is governed by osha rules or various state rules knows that they have got rights and they have got rules an some come out of years of unionization, even though there are very few uniized workers left in fact united states but in truth there aren't enough inspectors in normal times to make sure that businesses follow the rules. in times of crisis there's no chance that enforcement is the answer right now. >> that's right. good morning, ali. in good times osha can get to every workplace in the united states once every 165 years and right now with this massive

worker safety crisis, osha's not even trying. they have told workers in meat packing facilities, mcdonald's, in these high-risk facilities, look, you are on your own. we won't inspect or issue a standard that says what your employers should do. all osha is doing is issuing recommendations, issuing suggestions saying we'd like you to do these things but we are not going to enforce it or give workers any way for them to enforce it. >> so what is the answer in times leek this? if that number, and i have heard that number before, once every 165 years, what is the answer? should we be beefing up workplace safety enforcement? if what we're learning is there's no teeth to the idea that there are labor standards, what's the answer for workers like adrianna and others who are actually in harm's way? >> well, you know, in the big picture this has to be a major

focus of the federal government and state governments. there's a lot of talk about reopening the economy but we're in this crisis and it's worker exposures that are the fulcrum of determining whether to open safely. you know, right now it's workers who are being exposed on the job causing communities to have these very high rates, the feds have to step in. the president has to say workers need protection. but that's not going to happen so workers need unions. that's one thing. unions can protect workers. we need state governments to step in and say this is what you must do because this has to be done immediately. we are in this really terrible situation with tens of thousands of people exposed and getting sick. >> thanks to both of you. david michaels, former heads of osha, adrian that alvarez is a

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the only thing we have to fear is fear itself. nameless, unreasoning, unjustified terror. >> president franklin roosevelt addressing the nation in the first inaugural speech at the height of the great depression. on friday the release of the april jobs report showing the u.s. lost 20.5 million jobs in april sending unemployment soaring to 14. %, the highest level since the great depression. while president trump talks in glowing terms about how the economy is suddenly just going to turn on like a switch, the

real challenge facing policymakers is bridging the gap until those filing for unemployment now can get back into the work force. that could be two years away, five years away. but what we're trying to do is avoid an elongated period of recession or potential depression. jonning me is ian bremmer, he's the host of g-zero world on pbs. good the sigh yo see you. you study these things a lot an you study history. you don't believe that we're actually going to go into a situation like the great depression. why? >> well, not as bad as the great depression in the sense that you are talking about a decade of experience of double digit inflation, also, the world is just much wealthier now. the same level of contraction

will not lead to the same level of privation. middle income emerging markets today, the average person is wealthier and experiences a better condition of living than the advanced economies did 100 years ago. when you say great depression and think of the i con ek photos of what that meant for americans selling everything, that's not what we're talking about but this is a depression that we're going into. and the fact that people don't want to say it because they're cheerleading or hopeful, the w.h.o. didn't want to call it a pandemic for a couple weeks when it was clear it was, they were hoping against hope to avoid it. we'll get to the point that everybody will be saying this is the coronavirus depression. >> yeah. one other thing, we talk about failures of the administration and those are important because

that's where until this pandemic we thought that's where you turned to for the best guidance, the best science, the best advice. that didn't happen but you point out that the various bills, the stimulus bills coming out of congress have been broadly almost entirely bipartisan and like we saw in the great recession, like we saw in 9/11, the federal reserve and central banks while they have not worked in a coordinated fashion they have stepped up and done a lot so not everything's a failure. >> oh, that's exactly right, ali. it is good to preface it that way. it is so clear what the failings have been that it's taken us so long to get tests up and running, there's so low coordination from washington, not even a rule set in terms of how businesses should open up and become so incredibly partisan but so far the economic response we have seen from the united states has been quite robust, it's involved the entire

economy. very quick. and it's been almost completely bipartisan. so thank goodness for that. now, the point is that we're going to be in a period where we're desperately going to need relief, not -- before talking about stimulus, relief for the double digit number of americans having their life turned upside but this and through the election period and i do fear that the ability of the u.s. government to provide the economic response is probably not going to be there so i think the quality of the u.s. government on the economic side, the marks that they have been getting in the first couple of months of this crisis, are likely to start going down. the momentum is going to be hard to main and the. >> we have set an official state of october 30th where the emergency aid stops and seems clear that the crisis won't be over by then. sweden, we had a conversation

with bill gates the other day talking about the evolution of a therapeutic and a virus and behavior in terms of lockdowns and he shares your view what sweden decided to do to try to not lock down as much as other developed countries an create fast herd immunity, you're not in favor of that idea. >> first of all, it is not clear it's working in sweden. the hope that a lot of the americans are saying is that if we open up faster, the economy improves. the swedish model, expecting 6.8% economic contraction this year, about the same as the other nordic countries, a tiny bit worse according to imf. second is that we don't know what level of infection is required to get herd immunity. not only in terms of percentage of the population but also how bad the symptoms are that they need to have. stockholm, only stockholm at about 23% if you trust the test

which aren't enormously accurate so getting to that point in sweden would take months, maybe years and the united states so diverse, even longer. if we execute. the single biggest issue is that the united states just has nowhere near the level of trust an belief and support of health care officials and authority that is the swedes do. health care system isn't as strong and we have so many americans with preexisting conditions. the hypertension, the diabetes, the morbid obesity and in sweden they don't and so as a consequence if you try sweden and the u.s., the level of mortality would be so far higher and sweden's mortality levels the highest right now per population of anyone in europe. >> yeah. and they're losing a disproportionately number of elderly people, as well. so thank you, ian.

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we see a reduction in price off the farm but yet we see an increase in price from the packing industry and this is within of the things that is very difficult to understand right now from my point of view. >> there's also the alternative of going and helping out your farmers taking a beating from the commodity market. >> there's plenty of live animals, it is a supply chain. so we can't get the animals to market to be able to be

consumed. >> there are continuing fears in the country that the covid-19 pandemic is having a major affect on american's food supply chains and another slice food of the industry restaurants and bars largely closed or drastically lower levels of opening right now. the industry's been particularly hit hard by the pandemic. sense january there have been 5.8 million jobs lost just in the food services and drinking places sector. that's a nearly 50% decline. joaning me now is the ceo of the union square hospitality group, founder of shake shack and joining me is ceo of kind llc, the maker of kind bars, daniel lubeski. thank you both for being here. danny, let's start with you. yesterday morning on this show we held a town hall of sorts for

small businesses and a lot of the questions about small businesses in general but specifically coming to restaurants how you think about reopening, keep your staff on payroll, how you open in a way that convinces your customers that they can be safe which will often mean being in a much lower capacity which is very hard for restaurants, not the world's best money making business and how you keep your staff safe. these are sot of overwhelming questions for a lot of small businesses. >> well, actually you hit the nail on the head, ali. first of all, hi to my pal daniel over there. listen, the issue to open restaurants is you first have to make it safe for your own employees because if you don't do that, all bets are off and in the fine dining full service restaurants is a long time before we can open our doors

again. why is that? we are one of the great gathering spots in the fabric of society. as a matter of fact, think about this. it's mother's day today. next week would have been graduations. think about the gatherings not happening right now. once you make it safe for employees then you have to take out half of the seats in the restaurant and mack everybody wear a mask. it stops looking like a restaurant, feeling like a restaurant and further more restaurants cannot make a profit under at least 80% occupancy so we have a long, long way before we get back into full service industry. >> right. the dream of every restaurantaur or bar owner is that you like the idea because you want a place full of people. that's how you make money at it. daniel, sort of different question because a lot of people written to us said that this feels to them like the darkest moment in their lives and that will be true for many americans.

i only ask you this because you started a very successful business, kind, at a dark moment in your own life. >> yeah. i think that you're referring to when kind was founded in 2003, 2004. and it was a year when i lost my dad who was my best friend and my hero. and it was a time when the middle east conflict was exploding and i was very passion nabt about trying to bring arabs and israelis together and my presiding business to kind was almost in bankruptcy and thought of closing and we decided to launch kind and for any entrepreneur out there struggling i want to encourage them to think very critically about whether they have what it takes an whether the product or service can meet the needs of consumers. and if so, if you're sure that you have what it takes, do not

give up. kind was literally born out of the one of the darkest times of life and we are so blessed that we gave it another shot an it became what it became so -- but i don't want to make light of the situation right now. it is something unprecedented for all of us and supply chain challenges you were talking about earlier are very, very serious for all of us. >> danny, the life blood of any food service operation, any restaurant, any bar, and frankly, probably for 99.9% of small businesses is cash flow. experts say things like businesses should have 18 months of cash flow available. there are no businesses not fortune 500 with 18 months of cash. the local restaurant, they don't operate that way. theis an unrealistic expectation. >> yeah. the sad truth, ali, is that it's

more like 18 days of cash flow for most independent restaurants an that's really what we have to work with. i just want to make it really, really clear. even before this pandemic, the restaurant industry and its employees were not in very good shape. a lot of people are not talking about that. we had a situation where there was an inability to pay tipped employees a fair minimum wage because that's what the law is, sub standard minimum wage and non eligible tipped employees that being the cooks in the restaurant were not allowed to share in the tips. a reason we eliminated tipping from the restaurants. for an industry that's been a really, really good first employer we have been really miserable promoting people beyond that. we have to change this, use this moment to structurally make it better to be an employee in the industry and we have to make the

margins better for employers. we need an aligned strategy amongst government. we have the federal government with incentives to re-employ people which is great, especially if you can be back in business but then we have state governments, naturally, having something called a payroll tax which does the complete opposite and disincentivize us to hire people. if we are coordinated of federal and state and city i think we have a fighting chance to see another day. >> daniel, i just want to ask you about your business. your products are available all over the place. people can buy kind bars everywhere but also a robust online business and you've seen an increase in that, as people spend more time they know and like your product so they're ordering it to be shipped to their homes. >> yeah. ali, i can talk about the channel shifting that you're alluding to but i want to touch

on the important points that danny said. he is like an icon of a responsible business leader and this pandemic accentuates everything and it also accentuates what is the role of business to play. a positive role to serve society and responsibly or narrow minded, short term and profit oriented which is not going to end up fullying the potential of capitalism and a free markets to be a good organizing system and we are seeing right now huge disparity between responsible business behavior and crony capitalism on the other side and i think we need to all business leaders really try to model the behavior that we want to encourage in our society an a long ways to go in the community. specific to the question you're asking, there's a ton of channel shifting as you imagine and another disruption, week by week. sometimes there is no sales

because people are staying home, sometimes people are hoarding and exploding. it is a huge supply chain challenge. people are moving online and away from all the impulse channels. mass and club are still very strong but disruptive. types of foods of people eating, leaning a lot more on the breakfast items in the category and less on some of the high energy and endurance items and it is not easy for supply chains and part of the reason we witness sometimes empty shelves is that if you -- there is plenty of capacity but if you have one single team member in one single factory get sick the right procedure to close the facility and do a very thorough cleansing and a very thorough checks and very slowly open it up and creates disruptions in the industry and when you sometimes see patchy disruption supply chains because of that. >> so that is important to be

patient. business leaders want to keep the staff on and working and safe and may see shortages of some things going along. gentlemen, thank you for much for taking time to explain what you're doing. founder of shake shack danny meyer and daniel lubeski of kind. a happy mother's day to the moms out there. woging from home, becoming teachers, entertainers and those on the front line we thank you you specifically a. mother of new york finding this pandemic with her mother by her side. >> when she told me that she was going to nursing i was so elated and i was like, chelsea, i think you're choosing the right path. >> i always looked up to her and kind of knew this was the path that i thought i would want to take. >>y that and chelsea, a

mother/daughter nursing team. chelsea followed in her mom's footsteps into nursing and to mount sinai hospital in new york city. inseparable from the moment chelsea was born in that very hospital. we thank you. more "velshi" after this. how about no

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small business and retirement funds but i got a lot of questions of the stock market. why's the stock market going up despite the hardship that real people are having? let mess just give you a few reasons. first of all, interest rates are zero. the federal reserve, first of all, trump putting pressure on the federal reserve to cut interest rates for three flaf years but when this crisis started they took all that money to zero. if you are an investor, there's categories of which to invest. if anything that bears interest now doesn't bear interest the stock market is the only game in town so for a lot of professional investors they pushed money into the stock market. the second thing is the federal reserve has pumped a lot of money into the economy. that goes to banks, banks then are in a position to lend that out. remember, the banks are pretty strong right now. unlike in 2008, 2009 when the banks were weak so there's cash available from the federal reserve. number three, stock market

investors tend to look ahead. it is forward looking. what we know is whether it's war or recession or pandemic, the stock market comes back over time. why it looks overly optimistic, investors in the stork market saying that. do not look at the stock market as a barometer for the economy right now. it is far more optimistic about the economy than i am. keep sending me your questions and stories. all right. still to come, i'm going to speak to this year's pulitzer prize winning journalist on her work on racial disparity in america and rings true today. you are watching "velshi" on msnbc.

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american judicial system is designed to value white lives over black and brown ones. now these racial disparities persist centuries after the first enslaved americans arrived in what would become the united states. the year that happened was 1619. and last fall "the new york times" magazine created the 1619 project, an initiative to commemorate that 400-year anniversary by examining america's origin story with a corrective history on how the legacy of slavery continues to shape and define life in america. i remember reading the introductory commentary on that written by my next guest, her essay kicking it off, just won her a pulitzer prize in commentary. join smeg a face you have seen over this show, nikole

hannah-jones, we spoke about it when you first wrote it. and many of us have read a lot of things of slavely but the context of which you put this i. i want to pull one line which makes people understand the title of your commentary. no one cherishes freedom more than somebody who hasn't had it. talk to me about why you chose this thesis to kick off the 1619 project. >> what was important was that this project was really trying to reset the way that we thought about our country, but also the role that black americans have played. one of our proudest things that we like to talk about is how we are democracy, but of course at our founding, one fifth of the population in slavery and

deprived any citizenship in this democracy. and yet black americans from the beginning have fought to make those democratic ideas come true. and we see that again and again with support for social programs, with support for programs for the common good and with the bloody battles that black americans have waged during reconstruction, during civil rights movements, to ensure access to the vote and democracy for all citizens. >> you also throughout the project talk about the ways in which 1619 and slavery had a continuing impact on what happens to this day. i think a lot of people can get their hand around why things were unfair for african-americans until the end of slavery and if you read more, you find out it was really through the jim crow laws and read more you find out it was through the great migration, and if you read more you find out it was through the crack epidemic, read more, you find out it was through mass incarceration. but you actually in this project have drawn all of those that

disadvantaged african-americans in terms of health and wealth to the institutions that began 400 years ago. >> yes, so the 1619 project is not a history. it is a work of journalism that examines the modern and ongoing legacy of slavery. in america, we understand that what happened in 1776 with the drafting of the declaration and the drafting of the constitution that would come two decades later, that impacts who we are as americans and how we live. we want to act as if slavery has no impact whatsoever. when slavery in america predates both the constitution and the declaration. we look at why are black people living in the conditions that make them most susceptible to this virus, that make them most likely to contract it, that make them most likely to die from it, all of these can be related back to -- linked back to slavery and the idea in this country that black people were not citizens, that you could enslave black

people for profit and black people had to be separated from every other group of americans and we see the effects of that right now. we see the effects of that and what happened in georgia. i was talking the other day about how slave patrols deput e deputized every white american to have the right to stop, to question, and to accost black americans if they felt that black americans were somewhere where they weren't supposed to be. and so the idea that you could get your guns and chase down a black person because you don't think he's where he's supposed to be also traces back to slavery and this idea that black americans are suspicious no matter what context they do not have the presumption of innocence can be traced directly to this legacy. we never have been free of that legacy, it is ongoing in our system. >> i think what is shocking about what happened in georgia, to ahmaud arbery is not just that it happened that the father and son got in a truck, chased

him down and shot him while he was running away, but more importantly that authorities didn't charge them. it was clearly contrary to georgia law, you can't go chase someone down and shoot them and can't shoot someone if you didn't witness a crime they committed and yet it took authorities two months with video to do anything about it. >> yes, this is also a very age old problem, which is that black people cannot expect the swift justice to be on their side. that we have seen for centuries where white americans are given the benefit of the doubt when they commit crimes against black americans, where you can't get a grand jury to indict when crimes are committed against black american and where oftentimes even though we know the killer and the circumstance of the crime, white americans have gone free and had it not been for the video coming out, that's likely what would have been the case in this circumstance as well. >> nicole, my deepest

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with the best of governments. it has been an absolute chaotic disast disaster, when that mindset of what's in it for me, and to heck with everybody else, when that mindset is operationalized in our government. >> good morning and welcome to "am joy." happy mother's day to all the moms out there. over the past three years, one of the things you not heard is president barack obama criticizing his successor. although one can only wonder what he's thinking from day to day as he watches the economic recovery he fought so hard for against every form of republican obstruction just disappear along with the jobs of tens of millions of americans and most importantly the lives of nearly 80,000 more. well, now we have a hint.

in rare leaked audio from a phone call with thousands of former staffers, president obama openly criticized president trump for his abysmal handling of the pandemic thus far. as he sit here on mother's day in this new and awful normal, it is almost hard to remember that under normal circumstances you would probably be getting the family together soon to take your mom or your children's mom out to a nice brunch or dinner and lavishing her with flowers or gifts like a little bear friend here. but in this new covid-19 reality, this new life as we know it, everything has drastically changed. everything has changed including how we traditionally celebrated holidays like this one. and it is also changed for america's businesses. business owners. bigley. mother's day is hugely profitable for multiple industries in this country. the single busiest day of the year for restaurants. on mother's day in 2019, the national retail