hey, there. i'm joshua johnson. it's good to be with you on this mother's day. maybe you're planning to fly home and see mom next year after coronavirus is hopefully under control. that flight could be very different than your last trip home. we'll have details come up. we'll answer more of your questions including on the latest economic news. please do keep those questions coming. you might have more questions than ever after several key white house pictures painted a bleak picture of our financial future. some predicted unemployment could go as high as 25%. no one wants that to happen. every one wants to stay safe from covid-19.

president trump remains focused on reopening the economy even without widespread testing. a key republican senator says you can't have one would you tell us the other. >> if you take a test and you know that you don't have covid-19, and you know that everybody around you took a test that same day, you're going to have enough confidence to go back to work and back to school. >> confidence is mixed across america today. normally restaurants would be packed with families celebrating their moms. today you might be able to get take out, if your favorite spot is even open. more of them are opening. nearly every state has some form of reopening under way. in california, you may not be able to go out for dinner, but you can get flowers. the governor allowed retail stores, including florists to reopen for curb side pick up. california is in stage two of its four part reopening process. on friday, newsom said that phase three could be a month

away. that's when restaurants, nail salons and gyms would reopen. right now california has 67,000 confirmed cases of coronavirus. more than 2600 people have died. nbc gadi is at the flower mall in los angeles. you said the crowds were kind of social distancing and sort of wearing masks and authorities were not having a ton of luck enforcing those guidelines. how does it look today? >> reporter: absolutely. you were talking about curb side pickup. what we're seeing is nothing like that. the crowds we were talking about yesterday are even bigger today. there's really nowhere to park around here. for the most part you can see there are some people that are not wearing masks. there are other people down the street that are wearing masks. here is the other situation. just down the way about three or four blocks is skid row.

because there's no parking for that curb side pick up then the crowds are having to walk for several blocks. some of those crowds are walking through skids row and skid row is a very large portion of a population that's extremely vulnerable but not wearing masks. we're seeing homeless people come into this area more and more frequently to panhandle. they are asking people for money that standing in nethese lines. these lines are about an hour, hour and a half long. people trying to get the last of the supplies for those mother's day plants. we were listening to dr. ann talking about a potential, more potential for outbreaks. you got to look around and you see hundreds of people, thousands of people. it continues on that side of the street. many of them are wearing masks but again, social distancing is basically impossible. code enforcement officers are down here.

police are down here. they're going around. they're just asking people without masks to put masks on. they're going inside. they're trying to tell people inside of these stores not to let customers inside if they don't have to and to try to keep people outside but as you can see, it's still pretty chaotic out here. joshua. >> it seems like enforcement has been a challenge. some place vs been tougher than others. new york is very serious. you're not too far from the staple center but you're not too far from l.a. skid row. if the staple center was in business, that would be a whole other issue. with the approximaproximity to and lack of enforcement, there seems to be compounds problem. >> reporter: absolutely. all across los angeles, you go to the supermarket. there's curb side pick up and they are doing social distancing. this is the flower district. this is kind of the central hub

for this billion dollar industry here. this is like the black friday. it's the biggest rush of their entire year. it's the perfect storm of public health crisis meets mother's day meets this economic need. without this day, a lot of these businesses say they wouldn't be able to operate. the only silver lining here is that this hopefully will be over by today. they were hoping the crowds wouldn't be bigger today. ofl obviously we're seeing huge crowds. because mother's day is today, they're hope things go back to normal tomorrow. >> thank you. new jersey has one of the nation's worst coronavirus outbreak but still its reeasing into t -- easing into its reopening

plan. many businesses remain closed. the hardest hit is restaurants. they are fighting to survivor and relying on delivery sales to stay afloat. a new executive order limits the fees that delivery apps can charge restaurant owners. tell us about this order that limits the fees and the reactions to it. >> reporter: this business owner i spoke with says he welcomes the order. 5.5 million restaurant jobs were lost wiping out three decades worth of job growth in that industry. everybody wonders what will happen when businesses start to reopen. a lot of these restaurants and bars are having to reinvent themselves. they opened. the owner opened about six years ago wanting to create a neighborhood pub where people could sit down, kick back,

relax, grab a piennt, get to kn their neighbors. now that goes against the rules. the owner has completely changed the model of his business to take out to tlifr delivery. instead of going outside, he has a special where i had where you can grab your food and drinks go. a lot of people are oerding off of uber eat, door dash. they are ordering off of grub hub. these apps all take a commission from these low cap restaurant sos they can pay their delivery driver. the mayor signed an executive order capping that commission at 10%. the owner says that's welcome news because these places with charging him about 30% per order. here is what he had to say. >> i think it's great. i'm happy the mayor stepped up and did that. i hope it makes a big difference. we shall see. everybody thought it would grub

hub and all that. they're not as friendly as everybody would think they're big business and we're small business. >> uber eats says there's 10% commission is not enough to pay the delivery drivers. they will have to charge surcharge for customers here in jersey city just to be able to make up for that. grub hub is calling this an overstep. they say it woubldn't stand up n court. back here, they are doing whatever they can to keep people on the payroll. a lot of people are here part time. they are doing what they can. as far as what happens in the future with this business, even he doesn't know. joshua. >> it's one of the more fascinating aspects of the evolving gig economy the way the kmun fl money flows to customers and commissions and vendors. thank you.

pennsylvania state's reopening is coming along. mostly far from its population centers. the governor annoyanced that 13 more counties are moving from the red phase, no reopening to the yellow phase, a limited reopening. pennsylvania's big cities remain in the red, so to speak, including philadelphia, pitburg and harrisburg. we are joined from louistown, pennsylvania. it's in a more rural county that's not set to reopen. how are the businesses dealing with the news they are still many the red phase? >> reporter: these businesses are not happy, to put it simply because businesses like these across those counties are dark. their store fronts are closed even though here they only saw 50 cases. 5-0 of covid-19 of that nearly 16,000 case and zero deaths. small business owners are

telling me they think should should be reopened because they can do it safely. i spoke with a business owner at a home and garden shop here down the road. he's frustrated his greenhouse couldn't be opened for mother's day or any of the spring sellers. it's his prime time of the year. he was told he had to shut down. even though larger hardware stores that have greenhouses like home depot, he was told to shutdown and he didn't acquire a waiver that the governor was offering. he's becoming increasingly frustrated with the governor and the guidelines that have been put into place and the fact he's not able to reopen. take a listen to what he had to tell me. >> as for the governor, i feel he's doing a terrible job. he's a lame duck and she's sh showing it right now because he doesn't care what happens for re-election. he knows he's not up for re-election and whatever happens, whats.

at some point our lives have to go on. our immune systems have to get built up to this pandemic. there's other stuff we're missing out on. i feel we'll be in big trouble down the road. the governor will destroy small businesses in pennsylvania. >> reporter: we're starting the see some party politics bubble to the top here. a reminder these rural conservative districts are staying closed while the democratic governor is preventing them for doing so. some are saying they will reopen without permission. some sheriffs say they will not enforce the stay at home order. the frustration really coming to a head here. >> i was going to ask you about the partisan angle. i'm guessing if philadelphia and pittsburgh they would have different thing to say about his political intentions than we heard from that gentleman there. pennsylvania a very politically

diverse state. thanks very much. in texas, tanning salons, movie theaters and barbershops are open for business. that state is preparing to enter into its third phase of roping. texas has seen a steady increase in coronavirus cases in past week. the confirmed case load is nearly 39,000 with more than 1100 deaths. the governor has been pushing to get the state's economy back on track quickly. some cities are pushing back. this week austin's mayor announced he would extend his city's stay at home order until the end of this month. his concern, that coronavirus is no less infectious now than before. he joins us to discuss it. welcome to the program. >> good afternoon. good to be with you. >> how is austin doing now? we know your city lost a huge event back in march. how is it looking today?

>> we are not early and we cancelled that event. it was an outlier at the time. we were able to flatten the curve pretty dramatically. now the governor is roping things and we're along for that ride. no one knows what that means. no one knows increased physical and essentisocial interactions impact us. we don't know whether that will put us on an immediate path to have another spike or not. we're doing everything we can to try to make this successful. we're also trying to put testing, tracing. we're trying to enforce behaviors that will help make the governor more successful that he is not helping us with enforcement on.

we're spending a lot of time now trying to figure out what the triggers are so our community knows when if we have gotten on the wrong path, when do we need to act in order to be able to throttle down or back before we have a spike that overwhelms the hospitals. >> this executive order is voluntarily. people will not be ordered for ignoring it. if that's the case, what's the point in extending the order? >> well, cities and communities get to decide to a large degree on what they do. the governor can open things up but he can't make them open. he can't make people go. we have kept face covering mandatory. the governor said we're not allowed to have any criminal or civil penalty associated with that. we're telling people is the penalty for not wearing a face covering is more people will get sick and some of them will die and really in our community that ought to be penalty enough.

we're just encouraging our community to do everything we can to take this as slowly as we can to see the information, the data, the numbers they come back so we can be guided by those facts, that science and data. >> what does austin need most right now to get its economy back on track? >> if we're going to be opening things up, if we're going to up open restaurants. what we need to make sure is we are testing to a degree greater than we're doing now. we have to be able to contact trace at levels beyond what is available to us now so we can stop the virus before it spreads. more than anything else we need our people in our communities to be religious about wearing face coverings, staying six feet apart.

those behaviors will have a real impact on what is the impact of opening up. my hope is as a community, we can identify those triggers here in the next few days and then we'll all watch the numbers and we'll see if we start approaching those triggers or not. we have to set those triggers so we have time to react before our hospitals get over run if we over stepped the mark. >> mayor, thanks for talking to us. >> thank you. coming up, the future of flying. commercial air travel is down by 95%. how will the airline survive and what will your next flight look like? nbc tom costello has the story ahead. our medical experts are back to answer your coronavirus questions from safety concerns to the risk of more infections as states get back to business. our homes. overnight, they became our offices, schools and playgrounds. all those places out there

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aviation for 15 years. he has more on what you might see abroad. >> reporter: good day from reagan airport. the words you hear more often to describe the situation is bankruptcy and depression. the airlines and the airports are virtually empty right now. the fact there are fewer people flying right now than at any time since the 1950s. from ground to planes to dese deserted airports to row after row of empty seat, air travel in this country has dropped 95%. airlines fighting for their very survival. their priority safeguarding crew members and passengers who are already uneasy. >> it's definitely a little bit unnerving to fly just because of everything. you don't know who has what and how clean things have been on the flight. >> reporter: as of monday, every

airline in the country will require passengers to wear fas masks from the moment they check in until they leave the concourse. airlines already deep cleaning their planes every day with anti-bacterial disinfect tants. capping the number of passengers on board. leaving middle seats open. taking longer to board and deplane and boarding from the rear of the plane forward to minimize passengers bumping into each other. >> before i sit down on the plane i'm going to wipe my seat down with my lysol wipes and put my music in and go to sleep. >> reporter: desperate to stay afloat, the airlines have already received $50 billion in government bail out money but had to promise to keep their employees through september 30th. now the airlines are expected to layoff tens of thousands of people starting october 1st. this is matter of sheer gut

survival. these companies have been crippled in seven weeks. >> reporter: united airlines. >> what are you asking of your employees? >> we have asked our employees to voluntarily reduce their hours and reduce their pay. in some cases that's taking paid time off and in some cases that is going from full-time to part-time on a voluntary basis. >> reporter: nationwide, airlines have parked 3,000 planes. airports also struggling with a 97% drop in passengers, tampa is encouraging every one to wear masks. guiding travelers to space out, adding hand sanitizers and cleaning from curb to plane. >> it's important to make sure we focus on any place people can touch. we need to disinfect that as quickly and often as we can. >> reporter: the new normal in travel may be here to stay. the common belief with we will not see a return to 2019 passenger levels until a very large part of the population has

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we will answer more of your questions about the pandemic after we just tcheck the facts. economic adviser told cbs news the jobless rate could pass 20% by next month. treasury secretary told fox news that 25% is possible but he projected the third quarter, fourth quarter and next year will be better. meanwhile, three of the nation's top health officials, including dr. anthony fauci are self-quarantining, he and the cdc director were exposed to people who tested positive for covid-19. they all plan to testify remotely on tuesday at a senate committee hearing about the pandemic. more states are said to ease restrictions in week. in new hampshire, retail stores, golf courses and salons can

reopen. ken tuck tui ca -- kentucky is g horse racing. some restrictions in california have prompted a sharp response from elon musk, the ceo of tesla. he is suing alameda county where the manufacturing is located to over turn the shutdown orders. he claims he will move the headquarters to texas or nevada immediately. no word so far on a response from alameda county. let's go to washington for more on those economic predictions. monica alba is standing by at the white house. let's begin with what was said by the treasury secretary about white house chief economic adviser. listen. >> aren't we talking close to 25% at this point, which is great depression neighborhood. >> we could be but let me

emphasize, unlike the great depression where you had economic issues that led to this, we closed down the economy. >> how high do you think unemployment will get this year? >> you know, i think just looking at the flow of initial claims looks like we'll get close to 20% in next report. >> seems like the white house is dealing with in in a mixed way saying it looks like it will get bad but forecasting it will almost get better. >> reporter: exactly, joshua. a lot of pain in the short term with those economic advisers warning unemployment is likely to get even higher. the jobs report on friday was so brutal but it was likely expected. many officials here were bracing for those numbers to be very tough and that's exactly what they saw. they are saying down the line it will likely get worse before it gets better. in terms of when that will happen, mixed messaging, we're not sure whether that will happen in the third quarter of this year, fourth quarter.

many of the president's economic advisers saying we may not see that fast growth until 2021. the election in november is at the center of it. the economy. the president wanted to make sha initial strong financial situation the center piece of that pitch to voters. now he will have to sort of say i've got the economy to where it was once. i can try to get it back. he wants to promise workers. he can do that in what time frame that will occur, we don't know. officials said a next package, a next relief phase is still too pr maetu premature to talk about that. >> are they saying the economy may get better or are they expressing more certainty that it will get better? i want to make sure i phrase that fairly. >> reporter: they are hopeful it will improve. if you look at where things are now, they believe unemployment numbers will go up but

ultimately as the country starts to reopen, they do believe the economy will recover. just how quickly that happens is what is still being debated. >> that will be a topic that will come up at the hearing on tuesday that the three health officials will testifying at remotely. thank you. let's get to some more of your questions. bear in mind that the answers you'll hear from our two guests are based on what we know right now. they may be different from ha we said in the past or what we may say in future. consult your doctor or financial adviser for advice that's right for you. let's welcome back our panel. good to see you both. we must stop meeting this way. let me start with you and this question. gina asks can you explain viral loads and how that factors into

ones risk of testing positive and contracting a more serious case of covid-19. this is a term that many of us learned about in the fight against hiv aid, viral loads. what is that and how does that relate to koe covid-19. >> sure. with any viral disease, a lot of whether or not you'll get it and how deveer depends on how much virus you're exposed to and how much gets into your body. we don't know the details about covid-19 at all right now. the general principal is the more exposure you have, the more virus, the more likely you are to get sick. that's a generic explanation. it remains to be seen how much that viral load will make a difference and how we'll know. >> dr. azar, let's get to a question from jim. we have gotten a lot of questions related to how we deal with coronavirus in the workplace going forward. jim asks, is osha involved in

helping businesses know how to protect their employees while returning to work or are employers trying to figure that out for themselves? osha has a pamphlet that we found online. let's put up a few of points they suggest. a lot of this is planning. developing policy to identify and isolate sick employees and communicating workplace policies. >> i think it's important to remember the guidance is really intended for planning purposes.

they can take areas of change to mitigate the risk. the website is very comprehensive. i think it's kind of a little bit of a road map for employers and businesses to use as a guidance to see how it fit into their particular situation. not all businesses will have the same challenges. the recommendations are trying to be as evidence based as they can, from what i could read. >> if you want to see this it's on osha's website. there's a learn more link at the fro top.

next question comes from amy who asks, my 6-year-old has rare condition that makes him immune compromised. we live right outside d.c. will it ever be safe to send him back to school and other activities before a vaccine is developed? how long could we be stuck inside? >> this is a very important and tough question to answer. in your situation, your child is already compromised and i think he needs to be the last in line to really go back to a school situation. the hope will be the development of the vaccine and i know that you know that everybody's working as fast as humanly possible to get that vaccine out there. i personally, if i was his pediatrician and checked with

his own doctors, i really be looking at a possible time line that does wait until the vaccine is ready which may not be well into 2021. that's really a personal and medical decision that you'll have to take up. if it was any child or grand child, i would be waiting for the vaccine to get here. >> does the vaccine guarantee that an immuno compromised child will be able to go back? i'm guessing depending on his situation the vaccine might bring caveats for this child depending on the situation? >> that's a really good point. it might. we don't 100% know we'll have the vaccine any time soon. it's a very complicated virus to dwom devel develop a vaccine for. i wish i had a more definitive

answer. >> one more question before we pause. sabrina asks i manage massage therapists. i'm wondering how social distancing will affect our industry. i'm dying for a massage. please have good news. >> oh, gosh. i know. me too. every one is probably in line for these kinds of services. hair salons and nail salons and tattoo parlors and passage therapists and things like that where it requires humans to be in closer contact than we recommends for social distancing guidelines. obviously, every one will be wearing masks and gloves. i think it will honestly depends on what kind of degree of viral

transmission and activity going on in that particular locality. underlying medical issues and perceived risks. i don't think we can hold all of these services hostage until there's a vaccine. we are allowed to slowly start to open those businesses. >> i think that waiver you have to sign before you get massage will evolve in the next few months for sure. >> right. that's very new. >> we have some more questions for you later on. please do stay with us. we need to take some of your economic questions too especially after those dire predictions about high unemployment getting even worse. that is next.

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by many accounts the economy may get worse before it's better. the treasury secretary says unemployment could break 25%. that would put us back to the highs we reached during the great depression. we have been talking about the challenges of reopening the economy across america. most states are in some phase of removing restrictions and restarting local economies. joining us now to answer more of your financial questions. i want to start with a question that i think you and i have answered a version of on this

program but it keeps coming up. this one comes from norma who asks, i'm a 65-year-old senior with disabilities. i receive less than $12,000 a year. i have not yet received a $1200 stimulus money. i have called social security and the irs to know a vail. is there anyone that can get some answers for me. it's said that every one has received that first money and now there's talk of more. where did mine go? >> that's a great question for no ma. it's a question of patience. the irs asked people not to call them because they have limbed services and processing tax returns.

the social security administration is desperate from the treasury department that's like the irs. the irs has said they are trying to do their best to get it out. >> next question comes from andy who asks, my wife and i file jointly. she makes under the amount and seemingly would qualify for a check. i make over the amount permitted to receive a stimulus check. will she receive one even though we file jointly. >> that's the thing there. great question. if you file jointly as a married couple, what they're going to look at is your joint income. if andy is making more than 150,000 there are then they're not going to get the $2400 stimulus payment for married couples. from $150,000 a year to $198,000 a year, you get a reduced amount of stimulus payment.

you get 5 there are less for every 100 there are above the $150,000 threshold. they will be looking at the joint income in determining what the stimulus amount will be. >> we got a question from jan. it's one that applies to lot of different people. jan says i'm in my early 60s and make my living delivery food from restaurants. i'm worried i'm risk my health and life. if i stop, do i qualify for unemployment benefits since i didn't really lose any job? >> we have seen protests of workers concerned their employers aren't doing enough to protect the environment they are working in. in terms of quitting your job to collect unemployment benefits, regulations vary from state to state. in order to claim a good cause, you have to make your case to your state's employment agency.

there is racing. it's not kwarnts you'll be able to qualify for unemployment benefit ifs you just quit. >> this is one of those tough gray areas of the gig economy that i don't think has shaken out fully yet. we'll see if it shakes out now because of what we're dealing with. good to see you. thanks very much. before we go, what if we never get a coronavirus vaccine. rapid fire round is next. challenging it is right now.

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it's not a water born illness. it's respiratory pathogens. i think it will be the human to human contact and not the water itself. >> make sure your instructor is negative. what happens if a coronavirus vaccine is never developed? >> that's the question that keeps researchers up at night. the problem is we don't know. it's possible it will dissipate add a disease and it's also possible we'll be doing these restrictions and public health measures on a regular basis. >> do people who are antivirals for hiv have any resistance? >> generally speaking we think that patients who have hiv who have normal or not low cb4 counts and are taking their

retroviral therapy are at less risk. there's data on the use of retrovirals in treatment. if you're on therapy you're at less risk of developing severe disease. >> i think that's because if you're hiv positive and under treatment it's because your immune system is doing better. not because of the drug. >> is in tact enough to hopefully handle the virus. >> thanks very much. that's our look at coronavirus across america. thank you for making time for us. up next, thought ons what it might take for restaurants to survive. until we meet again. let's meet back here tonight at 9:00 eastern. the news continues after the break. how about no no uh uh, no way come on, no no n-n-n-no-no

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