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good afternoon, i'm ari melber, here are the latest facts at this hour. illinois governor jarks bpritzker, a senior staffer tested positive for coronavirus. they've issued a statement and noted the government at this hour is considered tested negative for the virus. meanwhile, last hour new york governor andrew cuomo announcing the statewide closure in that hard hit state will end this week, in fact this friday, may 15th. some regions will be able to start a limited reopening at the end of the week. the governor says there are 161 new deaths in the state but as for the curve, the hospitalizations rate remains on the decline. meanwhile, michigan's auto
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suppliers allowed to resume operations today, complying with social distancing and cleaning guidelines, ford, fiat, chrysler, general motors all expected to reopen plants by next week. and in terms of humanitarian efforts, a well-known rapper, jay-z and meek mill, are sending 10 million surgical masks and ppe to jails and prisons across the country. all of that, thanks to a $10 million donation when they teamed up with twitter ceo jack dorsey. we begin with a team of reporters fanned across the country covering every aspect of this story and begin at the white house where officials are still trying to contain the actual spread of coronavirus found in the west wing. a story that broke last week. dr. deborah birx, a member of the coronavirus datask force, sn wearing a mask when entering the white house. this footage just seen this morning. safety on the increase after different staffers tested positive, including the top press aide to vice president
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pence. despite his potential exposure pence is still expected to be working at the white house today. several other members of the task force are, however, self-isolating. joining us as promised from the white house, shannon pettypiece, what is the update on that aspect of this story? >> reporter: yeah, well, i mean, ari, as you laid out, this situation really hit home in the west wing and at the white house here over the past few days. despite the president sort of continuing to paint this rosy view of the pandemic, tweeting today that cases were declining, tweeting for the governor of pennsylvania to open up his state, again downplaying the risk. but inside the white house staffers return from the weekend to new changes on masks, on testing and on cleaning. after, as you noted, the president's personal valet was infected and the vice president's spokesperson. we are now seeing secret service agents and others in close contact throughout the day with the president wearing masks. at the white house gate, as visitors come in, we're now
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being asked additional questions about if we're experiencing any symptoms, in addition to temperature checks. white house officials told us that there was a deep cleaning in the west wing and in the work space of this vice president -- the vice president's staffer who was sick so thoroughly cleaned west wing. and then, of course, the testing front, we are told by white house officials that people in close contact with the president are being tested more regularly rather than the sort of once a week testing that they were doing. but, you know, certainly on the outside the administration officials continue presenting an image of business as usual and many staffers, many senior officials we have seen showing up today, some without masks, unlike dr. birx. but the president on the outer facing front really wants to convey the message still that the situation is improving, and focus on reopening the economy. >> shannon, from your observational reporting are you seeing more people showing up today wearing masks than you saw
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in previous weeks? >> reporter: so, i've so far only today gotten limited exposure inside the west wing of what people are doing. arriving at the white house, very few officials were seen coming into the west wing in masks, including kelly ann conway and dan scovina we saw arriving without masks. are people wearing them inside the west wing, it's a mixed bag. but i've only heard of a few officials who have actually been wearing masks inside the west wing which, of course, is a really close, confined area with narrow hallways and tight working spaces where it's really impossible in many situations to socially distance. >> yeah, shannon pettypiece at the white house as we see some of the footage of those staff arriving this morning. thank you so much. turning to georgia there is a new coronavirus hot spot emerging in hall county. this is about two weeks, of course, after social distancing orders were eased effectively letting more of that economy reopen. this county, which is northeast of atlanta, rapidly increasing
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testing as well, the hot spots confirmed, fifth highest confirmed cases in the state and joining us on the ground is allison barber, outside a hospital in gainesville, georgia doing important reporting to give people in that state and viewers around the country an understand og of what you're seeing and what's on the ground. go ahead. >> reporter: hey, ari, there are ov over 2,000 confirmed cases of covid-19 in this county alone, it's been designated a hot spot in this state. medical experts expect the numbers to rise over the next couple of weeks. here are some of the numbers just to get you on the same page of what kind of we're dealing with here. on april 1st the state's department of health reported 255 confirmed deaths from covid-19 in all of georgia. today, that number is over 1,400 and there are more than 33,000 confirmed covid cases statewide. governor kemp says things are improving. he said over the weekend the state had its lowest number of
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confirmed covid patients hospitalized since hospitals reported the data on april 8th. in hall county, doctors tell us they're expecting a significant surge in the coming weeks and they've built temporary medical units outside of the hospital where we are to try and deal with it. the hospital opened up the sides of one of those medical tents that is outside, a temporary medical unit, so we could get a look inside to see how they are dealing with it. they have two that are already built, one of them that is in use, treating a covid patient with mild covid-19 symptoms. here's what the chief of emergency medicine told us. >> this is called a mobile treatment unit so this obviously is a portable unit we were able to put in place in a matter of a few days. and this is designed for surgeon capacity. we are anticipating higher volumes when we see our surge and this is a space where we can see those patients. >> reporter: so we have a couple
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different things here. they have those tents where they're able to treat some patients coming in right now. and almost use it as a buffer to keep those patients with mild covid-19 symptoms outside, away from other patients as well as the doctors. another thing they're soon going to have will be right here, they are getting in dozens of cargo shipping containers tonight, where over the next week they will put together a larger, temporary medical unit right here. they say that it will have 20 beds. right now the plan is to use it as a temporary medical surgical unit so that they can free up icu beds inside of the hospital, they can treat people out here with minor symptoms of covid-19 and need extra care but maybe not icu or other ailments. based on the data they have right now they need these extra beds and they're also saying right now based on where they think the numbers will be that they could be at their operating staff capacity by may 22nd. ari? >> allison barber, thank you.
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tomorrow voter up in wisconsin will head to the polls up north, some of them voting in person at a special election. the entire state held in-person voting, a special election, and a primary. wisconsin health officials reporting 67 people who voted or worked at the polls have tested positive for the virus, the state's health department also noting that 72 people who tested positive after a protest rally on april 24th, indicated that they had previously attended a large gathering. the state cannot say if they were at that particular rally because it's not tracking sesk events that way. and joining us is wtmj's lauren lender at a free coronavirus testing site in milwaukee. what are you seeing there? >> reporter: ari, today is the first day that anyone can get tested for covid-19 here in wisconsin. it's all free, and you don't need an appointment. i'm at one of the testing sites on the north side of milwaukee
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in a shopping center parking lot. there's also a testing site on the south side of the city and a couple in madison. there's both walk-up and drive-through testing. cars are lined up on the street surrounding this center and we're hearing that people have been lining up hours before the sites opened at 8:00 this morning. it seems like the majority of people are going through the drive-through rather than doing the walk-up testing. those that are doing the walk-up testing appear to be wearing masks and are trying the best to keep their distance. the station national guard is helping with the effort, all dressed in personal protective equipment. they say they can do nearly 500 tests per day. these are placed in areas that have known community spread and have had a lack of access to testing. right now in the state we have more than 10,000 positive cases. but that number is expected to rise with this increased testing. but experts say this is what will help reopen the state and
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the economy. they're encouraging anyone to get tested. if you have symptoms, or have been in contact with somebody who has covid-19, even if you are feeling well yourself, the testing site will be open until 8:00 tonight. they'll be open for seven days a week. and you should be expected to get your results within a couple days. ari, back to you. >> thank you very much. we're going to go to south korea, there are escalating concerns about a second wave of infections linked to a man who went clubbing last weekend. officials trying to contact and trace basically 5,500 people who were at the clubs. >> reporter: this latest cluster really has health officials in south korea concerned in part because it started in seoul, the capital city, a city of more than 10 million people. and also because already they've
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tracked more than 80 new cays of covid-19, just in the past several days. they are expecting more to appear. and they say all of them are traced back to this one man who went to a nightclub without a mask. 4,000 clubs and bars in seoul are closed. at testing sites long lines. as health workers try to track at least 5,500 people who went clubbing more than a week ago, and might be infected. they say a 29-year-old man went to at least three nightclubs the night of may 1st. wasn't wearing a mask. and tested positive for covid-19 last wednesday. the city's mayor ordering all nightclubs and bars to close indefinitely, saying carelessness can cause the virus to explode. daily cases are now spiking. 35 this morning. the biggest rise since early april. >> dancing clubs, very -- for
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the transmission channel of the coronavirus because first of all people have not been wearing masks and people will be dancing and shouting. and there will be a lot of sweat. >> reporter: south korea has become a model for the world on how to track, trace and isolate making sure foreigners like me don't carry the virus into the country. after a week quarantined in a tiny dorm room, today a big move. >> we have one week left and we are now staying in an actual hotel. i think we're supposed to take our own temperature now because we've been given this kit and a thermometer, but it's all in korean. this country was just days into a new phase, the first soccer game in months. theme parks filling up. classrooms prepped for kids to return. now the government is rethinking its strategy. today the ministry of education changed its plan for opening schools in phases. that was supposed to start this
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week on wednesday. in fact, seniors were going to be going back to school. they've delayed that for at least a week. ari, parents just weren't comfortable sending their kids back to school knowing that there's still this track and trace operation ongoing. and not really knowing where the virus is right now. ari? >> kelly, thank you very much. up next, how tomorrow's coronavirus response hearing in the senate could play out. the chairman and several witnesses figuring out how to do this remotely because they're in quarantine. the way we live and the way we govern. all of that changing. a lot more ahead, including a member of the senate. when we come back. you're watching msnbc.
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tomorrow, several members of this highly anticipated senate hearing will appear but not in the usual way. they will appear safely via video conferences. that includes witnesses from the trump administration, top infectious disease expert dr. fauci, testifying remotely and also several witnesses who were potentially exposed to the virus last week and are self-quarantining. committee chair lamar alexander is one of them, self-quarantining after a member of his own staff has tested positive for the virus. joining me now is capitol hill correspondent garrett haake. good to see you. there are so many different ways that we are all adjusting, figuring it out as we go, the congress has already done some of that but this particular hearing, john, extra interest. tell us what you're learning. >> yeah, ari, last week we saw several of these hybrid hearings
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take place on the senate side wherein some members were present in the room, some were appearing via video conference, and i think it's entirely possible that tomorrow's hearing has far more people attending via video than it does actually in person. our team has been surveying the senators on the health committee and so far only a handful of confirmed that they'll appear in person, both the chairperson lamar alexander, you just mentioned and the ranking member will be asking questions remotely, the witnesses appearing remotely as well. this is a very highly anticipated meeting, really the first opportunity since this crisis has risen to the level it has for lawmakers to question these medical experts, particularly dr. fauci, in a setting away from the white house podium, away from white house press minders looking over their shoulder or the president himself standing over their shoulder and there are a lot of questions lawmakers have about testing, reopening, shelved cdc guidelines, which they're hoping
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they can address directly without the interference from the other end of pennsylvania avenue. >> well, and garrett, as you know from covering this, and i think most of our viewers know from all of the politics that surround the congress, hi pockri pockrisy is one of the -- just a question of who is standing up for their own values and we're seeing a lot of that play out in this crisis. there's a question about what the rules say, which of course are put out by the trump administration itself through the cdc and other agencies and then who's following what, the example of lamar alexander seems to be following is, if your own staffer is positive, air on the side of safety and self-quarantine. viewers who have been with us for 15 minutes or more will be reminded that's not the same standard vice president pence is using. how are we seeing that play out with difficult decisions given the jobs they have, but how much
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is that issue playing out about how different actual elected officials are applying or departing from different safety rules here? >> there is enormous variance on capitol hill in terms of how people are following the various rules that might be set out, where they live and when they're here in washington. from folks who are wearing masks, religiously, to lawmakers who largely refuse to wear them. and to folks who are preaching cdc guidelines. and those who are following them. lamar alexander, you saw him make a responsible choice by choosing to stay home and do this via video conference. it's tough to be the chairperson of the health committee in the senate and not follow health department guidelines. i think that would set an extraordinarily bad precedent. you do see, again, basic following the rules there. but even as i stand here there are questions about whether it's responsible at all for the senate to come back to be in session at all during this time period, whether the house should come back to pass something potentially later this week, their own version of a coronavirus relief bill that
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hasn't been negotiated with the administration yet. do you bring people back to pass something that you're not certain is actually going to become law? i mean, these are the ethical questions that surround this. all colored by the politics of a whole bunch of elected officials who want to look like they're doing something, whatever that is. >> understood. an important nuance, garrett haake, as always, thank you. states across the country are reopening. treasury secretary mnuchin are cautioning unemployment they believe could continue to rise, comments following devastating numbers from april, basically 15% unemployment in this country rivaling the great depression. a few weeks ago it was secretary mnuchin confident of recovery by the end of this year. >> i think as we begin to reopen the economy, in may and june, you're going to see the economy really bounce back in july, august, september. the reported numbers are probably going to get worse before they get better. but that's why we're focused on rebuilding this economy.
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we'll have a better third quarter. we'll have a better fourth quarter. and next year is going to be a great year. >> i want to bring in senator ed markey who's been hard at work on a piece of legislation that could affect all of this, it's been teamed up with bernie sanders and kamala harris, emergency monthly payments that would continue for those making under $120,000 a year and goes beyond the current payments you've heard about. senator, thanks for joining us. >> no, thank you, good to see you. >> nice to see you. even under these circumstances, as they say. so, first of all, there's been so much talk, everyone remembers about where the democratic party or a nation should be on economic policy, bernie sanders versus joe biden, yadayada, as they say. here you are teaming up with bernie sanders and others to really push beyond the current bipartisan bills and say there needs to be more money pushed out there. why is that important to you as both a just or moral position, and why would it be good for the
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economy right now? >> thank you. obviously there has been a complete underestimation of the magnitude of this problem right from the get-go by the trump administration. they continue to downplay it, they continue to leave the misimpression that it is going to be something that will be relatively brief. it's very clear now that it won't be. this is going to go on for a long time. their own fema analysis indicates that 3,000 persons a day could be dying by june 1st. this is going to be something that requires a systemic and massive intervention by the federal government to keep families alive and to keep businesses alive. and what we've been doing so far is insufficient to the magnitude of this problem, which is whiens bernie sanders and kamala harris and i are introducing legislation to say that per month every individual should receive $2,000, a couple $4,000
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a month, and each child $2,000 per month up to three children in the family. we have to get the resources into the hands of the families, of the workers so that they have the economic life raft to make it through this health care crisis. and we have to think back to herbert hoover in denial all the way up to 1932 when fdr came in, he began to put together solutions that were the match for the problem. well, trump is just the latter day herbert hoover. and so we just have to basically say it's a crisis, it's only been seen by the great depression. if that's the krcase we need a rooseveltian response put in place, and that's what we're proposing to give aid to individuals all across the
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country until we come on the other side of this crisis. >> i love your knowledge of history. you're going way back, with roosevelt and hoover references. recent history would be andrew yang. does this show while there's a crisis, different than day-to-day, that andrew yang and bernie sanders, that they had the better side of the argument, that they have been right about what to do? >> well, i think here that they do. the solution is something that really goes to guaranteeing that everyone has an income, each month. that they don't have to worry that there will be a day in the next four weeks, eight weeks, you know, ten weeks, when it all runs out, when the federal government is not going to be there. so we might as well just start out where we're going to be forced to wind up anyway, which is to provide this assistance to americans to give it to them on a predictable basis, to do the
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moral thing, to do what is ultimately going to be best for our economy at the same time. we can't adopt the policies of herbert hoover. i know when i was a boy herbert hoover was alive at my kitchen table, my father was still talking about how bad a president he was until roosevelt showed up. that's where we are again. we have people pounding the table looking at donald trump and saying what are you doing? why can't you realize that people aren't going to quickly be able to reopen their businesses or go back to anything remotely resembling business as usual? >> yeah. your policies as well, within some of the legislation you're pushing, propose doing more with the public service sector of the federal government programs, things like peace corps and amer corps, michigan warranted attention and salute to people
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who work in the public health sector, nurses, doctors, you're talking about expanding that. how would you do that, how much would it cost? >> well, again, what we have to do is harken back to fdr with the civilian conservation corps and other agencies which moved in to provide opportunities for individuals in our society to match a need, which we have. and so what chris van hollen and i, chris coons and others are talking about is a massive increase, upwards of 500,000 people who would be enlisted to go out and do the work which we're going to have to accomplish during this great crisis. and that we have to spend the money but we'll get a return on our investment because the work will be done out there. and to look at americorps, to look at a model of the peace corps, and build up the
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infrastructure so that the work is being done out there in testing, in contact tracing, in insuring that all of the other essential work does, in fact, take place. so from our perspective -- >> yeah, i wanted to get you on one more thing. i don't know if you'll answer it or not. i'll tee it up, one of our reporters was noting earlier, we were discussing the contrast between senator alexander having a staffer test positive and self-quarantining, and he runs, of course, the health committee, and vice president pence in the same situation not self-quarantining, he runs the coronavirus task force. do you think vice president pence is wrong or is it more complicated? >> i think when you go to the mayo clinic you should wear a mask. if you go to a mask factory, you should wear a mask. if you're in the white house, and already staffers have
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contracted the coronavirus, you should be wearing a mask to model to the rest of the country. every one of us is seeing right now people just walking around without masks on the streets of massachusetts. but the streets of the country. we need the leaders of the country to be demonstrating what is the best practice to limit the spread of this disease. i think it has to start at the top. and perhaps when he's speaking, when he's up to the podium he can take down the mask. but i think that for all of americans they should look at their leaders. and again, people who are in red states, they look at president trump. they look at vice president pence as examples. and it would be good if they did set a good example, if they did model because i think in the end it's actually going to help to reduce the spread, save lives, and get us through this crisis
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much more quickly. >> well, senator, i appreciate you walking us through what you're trying to do in the congress as well as your straight talk there and learning a little bit more about the marquee family historical an tip think for herbert hoover, something that goes back clearly decades. >> we harbor an ancient animosity, and donald trump is now taking that seat at the dinner table. >> you raise someone who grows up to be a senator, tough times, i appreciate you joining us, senator markey, thank you, sir. we're going to fit in a break. when we come back we have other important stories here, including children who are contracting this virus. there's a mysterious aspect to it, an illness that people now believe may be linked to covid-19 itself. doctors and scientists racing to find out what causes it and how to stop it. you're watching msnbc.
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>> reporter: statewide 85 cases, on sunday new york's governor announcing the state is investigating two more deaths after three children were already confirmed to have died from the rare sickness believed to be related to covid-19. the syndrome causes life-threatening inflammation in the body and organs with potentially serious effects on the heart. nbc news finding cases of the illness in nine states and washington, d.c. >> the fact that it is affecting children is upsetting. >> reporter: 13-year-old anthony lawson is now in the icu at seattle children's hospital, about a week ago he started showing signs of what his mom teresa thought were allergies. itchy eyes, fever and a headache. but within a few days those symptoms took a dangerous turn. >> once we got to children's hospital we were -- we met him in the cardiac icu, where we were told that it appeared that he was in the middle of heart failure. they ended up taking a blood test, and were able to discover that that blood test came back positive for the covid-19
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antibodies. >> doctors now alerting the public to a range of symptoms, including fever, rashes, abdominal and chest pain. change in skin color, and rapid heart rate, with symptoms often mirroring more commonly known inflammatory illnesses, like kawasaki disease and toxic shock syndrome. >> if they have a child with a persistent fever more than three days and has these abdominal symptoms of vomiting, diarrhea, severe belly pain. that would be your time to call your pediatrician. >> urging parents to be aware, but not panic. >> it hasn't changed my worry level because it's a very small percentage of kids who are going to likely develop this. >> kristen dahlgren reporting, and we turn to physician and former white house health policy director dr. patel. what do we need to understand and what to parents need to understand about this?
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>> it does absolutely concern every parent that i know of, and also every physician because it's as you're reporting has stated it can present in a number of ways. here's what we need to understand, number one, it is rare. this is certainly not something that is common. and, just a point in context, there was a reference to kawasaki disease, and some other syndromes. we do see these with other viruses. it's not automatically assumed to be coronavirus. but, of course, that's the main concern. the second thing to keep in mind is that getting in touch with your physician and pediatrician early, even on a video visit, or even just a call if you have someone, a child with fevers, and it could be of any ij, kawasakis is generally for children 5 years and under, but it could be any children's age as we've seen already and sometimes it can present with things we've heard of in the past called covid toes, looking like little clots or bluish appearances at the end of the
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toes, or discoloration of the skin. and we also have, from other reports in other countries, a similar pattern where there's a skin manifestation. so i think that for any parent out there, the other thing to consider is to really try to reenforce the use of masks, nonmedical masks in children. you had some reporting where you saw children wearing masks. the cdc is recommending that for age 2 and above and it's hard to put kids in masks. i think we can train them to do it to help prevent the spread of this disease. i wouldn't be a good public health professional saying that a lot of this is related to the fact we're not testing enough. these children are presenting and they're not really the classic symptoms. we don't have enough tests being done and we need to start looking at more universal testing when children are admitted to hospitals to figure out what's going on. >> and during these public health crises one never wants to use statistics to minimize
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what's going on. for any person or child or family dealing with this, it's their whole world. but give us an understanding, as we report, where does the hit rate, the infection rate of this mysterious problem stack up against other risks? >> oh, absolutely, this is incredibly rare, less than -- much less than even a percent of cases that present in children because, remember, children are a much lower percentage. again, we think that might also be because of testing but this is, as you heard in new york, 83 cases around the country, at most a handful under 250 cases, even if we count some of these other ones that have been confirmed. it's a very small percentage. >> i wanted to make sure we underscore that with your expertise for folks watching. on the one hand we report things that happen, sometimes rare things make news but we don't want people walking away from this thinking this is their new priority on that list.
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before i lose you, doctor, i did want you to weigh in on this other topic you're well versed with, "the washington post" reporting on what doctors are discovering in the way that the virus attacks the body. damaging kidneys, heart, brain, which is reassessing our earlier discussions about what this disease does, widespread recognition of the novel virus is more unpredictable than a simple respiratory, it can also strike anywhere from the brain to the toes. could you walk us through, doctor, when we think about those infamous spikes that people have seen on the representation of the virus, what does this mean to the rest of the body? >> yeah, absolutely, ari. and the spikes, everybody now has that image sered in their brain of what this virus looks like, the red spikes, corona, referring to a crown, those red spikes are able to really attach, at first we thought it was the lung cells. now it's literally head to toe,
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the cells lining blood vessels and organs, the cells in your skin. and these red spikes attach and they kind of mimic and they actually fool the natural cells in our body in order to allow those virus cells to come in activate our immune system, and then actually replicate. and these virus -- those little spikes do it so smartly, ari, that they do it in a way where you don't need that many virus particles in order to generate that kind of big inflammatory reaction in healthy adults and children. so this is truly something that the science is evolving as we're seeing it clinically. i can only characterize it by a phrase that many of my colleagues who are premier vie rolgss and immunologists, saying this virus is deceptive, end quote. it is truly that. however, on a good news front, as much as we're seeing about the clinical evolution of this virus, we are also seeing
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incredible advances in treatments and in just old-fashioned ways to support patients through this difficult time if they're hospitalized. >> doctor patel, thank you for all of that. we're going to fit in a break. when we come back, disneyland has actually reopened in china. but what happens to the beloved theme parks and other gathering spots in the united states as we transition? we have a live report from shanghai that might give us some clues. church services, meanwhile, returning to indiana and for at least one service many went without the masks we've been told to wear. it's an important story as, again, we figure out how to adjust to life in this era and what you can do to protect your family when we return. i came across sofi and it was the best decision of my life. i feel cared about as a member. we're getting a super competitive interest rate on our money. we're able to invest through the same exact platform. i really liked that they didn't have any hidden or extra fees. ♪ sofi has brought me peace of mind.
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...an independent organization that sets strict quality and purity standards nature made, the #1 pharmacist recommended vitamin and supplement brand disney land reopened today, in shanghai. it's been closed for three months, of course, because of the pandemic. there are steps they're taking that could shed light on what large gathering places should do, all over the world including obviously in the united states as we figure out how as a nation we reopen, including different types of gatherings. so joining us now, from the disney resort hotel in shanghai, china is cnbc beijing bureau chief you niece yoon. >> hi, ari. shanghai disneyland is closed for the night but today the park welcomed thousands with great fanfare and new safety precautions. another sign life is getting
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back to normal in shanghai, selfies in front of the disneyland castle. after being shut for 15 weeks shanghai disneyland was the only disney theme park open, not business as usual. the park under post-pandemic restrictions to keep people healthy. the man in charge is head of operations andrew bollsteen. >> we have if space around everybody they can feel comfortable. >> reporter: every line has ma markers instructing people to keep at least three feet away from others, even on rides. >> as guests are loading in, we put an empty seat between each group and an empty row between. >> reporter: at the park visitors get constant reminders to keep a safe distance, at the restaurants entire tables are being blocked off. >> all the restaurants the menus are staying the same but service styles are different. we're not doing buffets. >> hand sanitizer is available at restaurants and stores, mobile payments are encouraged
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to avoid passing of cash. theaters staying shut, parades limited, no fire works to discourage crowds but you can still see your favorite characters. don't get that close. mickey and the gang are social distancing, just like everybody else. no shaking hands or hugging. that has to wait for safer times. and disney is limiting the daily capacity at 30%, which, of course, is good for social distancing, but also, ari, for the overall experience people have been talking about how it's really quite enjoyable because there aren't so many crowds so a lot of people were talking about, for the most part, waiting in a line wasn't really an issue. they didn't have to wait for much more than five minutes. >> hey, that's certainly understandable. eunice yoon thank you so much. another idea, how do you see what happens when you reopen and how does it work and what should you avoid? we walked through an example in a different country that faces
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much of what we do. meanwhile in our nation, in indiana, you have churches reopening, now many encouraging everyone, of course, to follow health protocols when you go to any gathering, which includes church. this is the first time this church has the held services in two months, the churj's pastor asked people to take temperatures and offered face masks, but many worshippers chose not to wear them. katy tersec of wfie reporting. >> reporter: covid-19 screenings before in-person worship, a recommendation from indiana governor eric holcomb has churches reopen after closing due to the pandemic. >> i am so glad to be back in church. >> reporter: church goers at abundant faith united in evansville singing and worshipping during sunday morning service, the first time in two months. >> i am just elated, after having spent nine weeks teaching and communicating into a camera
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lens -- >> reporter: however opening back up came with a list of modifications. >> we are deep sanitizing between every service. and so everything from the microphones all the way, door handles, surfaces. >> reporter:besides doing that pastor maroney says they provided people with masks, but many chose not to wear them. governor holcomb recommends mask bes be worn. >> i was not surprised most people would not want facemasks. you'll see that allowed a lot out in the public. people are coming in here by families and surprisingly there were a lot less facemasks than what i thought there would be. >> reporter: as for social distancing you'll notice people standing pretty close together. >> i thought we did a good job of social distancing with the exception of families sitting together, but then again, they're sitting together by family. >> reporter: for those who still can't make it to in-person service this is church plans on continuing to stream their services. >> i think we're going to keep everything in place as is right
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now. we're going to continue to listen to governor holcomb's recommendations as those guidelines and restrictions begin to loosen, then we will obviously jump onboard with that. >> thanks to that piece of reporting from wfie from indiana. not to be confused with katie tur. an update of hope and perseverance when we come back. super emma just about sleeps in her cape.
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we switched to new tide plus downy free. it's gentle on her skin, and dermatologist recommended. new tide pods plus downy free. safe for sensitive skin with eczema and psoriasis. now to something a little more hopeful and an update to a story we first brought you last week. ashley lawrence is a senior in kentucky and decided to help members of the deaf and hard of hearing back in march. by making masks with a clear plastic window. since then her project has taken off. it's reaching people all over the world. wlex in kentucky has this report. >> reporter: you may remember this picture, an eastern
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kentucky university senior studying education for the deaf and hard of hearing who started a project making masks for that very community. in the last 30 days she scored a job in tampa working with elementary students who are deaf and hard of hearing, was chosen to be her university's commencement speaker, and has answered a lot of emails. >> it's been a month and 10,000 emails. at some point there were 1,000 a day. >> reporter: the request for her masks with the clear window poured in from all 50 states and six of the seven continents. >> it had to have been at least over 20,000. some were asking for one, some were asking for ten. we had one email that came in that said we need 1,000 for our staff. >> reporter: but out of the tens of thousands of requests she only filled a few. >> we shipped out 100 masks to our local community and then everyone else just started sending tutorials. >> reporter: as she read request after read from those who just wanted to share a smile, she realized teaching others to make the masks themselves was more
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important. >> it's beyond just the giving of the masks. it's the awareness, something i never thought would happen when i originally started this. >> reporter: that awareness became her mission. >> we need to think about those populations that we don't think about all the time and we need to start making life in general more accessible for everyone. it's no different than a ramp at a restaurant. you may not use it, but for someone who needs it that is the best restaurant to go to because they don't have to think about how to get upstairs or anything like that. it's just that accessibility all the time. >> reporter: all the time for everyone. >> really important work as a student and a reminder we can learn from our students. if you do want to get involved we want to make sure you have the information. you can go to basically send an email to
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governor andrew cuomo said some low risk businesses could reopen as early as this friday. he outlined seven metrics that must be met before any region can consider putting people back to work including the number of available hospital beds and icu beds along with a robust testing and tracing program. and president trump will speak from the rose garden in just a few hours where he will no doubt face questions about the spread of covid-19 in the cramped offices of the west wing. white house staffers tested positive in the last few days. in response nbc news has learned that the administration has enacted additional but limited guidelines to encourage staff to work remotely if possible. let's bring in digital senior white house correspondent, shannon, this is now in the white house. what is the white house doing about it? >> reporter: katy, there are a
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few changes aides returning from the weekend are seeing now. the first are masks. people in close contact with the president, secret service, people serving his food, are now required to wear a mask. there's increased testing for people in close, regular contact with the president. white house aides were sent a memo. we've learned essentially telling them to work from home if possible to maximize telecommunicating. this memo re-emphasized doing that. i will note there's still one key thing that's not happening here and that's a universal mask policy. as you said the west wing is small, it's cramped quarters, very close hallways, a lot of shared work spaces. white house aides aren't required to wear a mask unless you're one of the people in very close contact to the president, and i've seen a number of people in the west wing and coming in and out of the west wing who aren't wearing masks. i will note one of those people wearing a mask today is dr. birx who showed up with one on this morning. that's one clear policy not
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implemented in this white house. >> shannon, do we know why not? >> reporter: well, we have seen the president go back and forth on this mask issue, and i think it speaks to a broader struggle the administration is having responding with a pandemic coming to its own house at the same time trying to present an image of something that has turned the focus on reopening the economy which the president wants to be talking about. the president wanting states like pennsylvania to open up and saying the numbers are improving though they aren't in most places. the push and pull in this white house throughout this entire pandemic. >> shannon, are any measures taken to protect the chain of command? are the president and the vice president being kept separate right now? >> reporter: well, we'll see what will happen today. the vice president arrived after this morning into the executive office building.
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he had a teleconference scheduled with governors. he stayed away from the white house all weekend, but he is not expected to be in some sort of self-quarantine like the fda head and the cdc director. still a question that remains to be seen whether he will attend this press conference that the president will hold later today in the rose garden. >> shannon pettypiece at the white house. shannon, thank you very much. and the city of nashville is beginning phase one of its reopening process. restaurants in the country music mecca will be able to operate at reduced capacity alongside social distancing guidelines. but are owners ready to reopen? and do customers want to go back? joining us now from nashville is correspondent catie beck. so, catie, what are you seeing? >> reporter: hi, katy. we are on a rooftop bar that has not reopened yet but have a good view of broadway beneath us and it does seem there's good foot traffic out here today in the lunch hour, people taking advantage of those newly opened
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restaurants. one thing to note that here along broadway you will still see a lot of closed businesses, and that is because bars and music venues have not been given the green light in phase one. they will have to wait to get that until later, possibly another few weeks before you'll be able to see live music in nashville, which is a pretty big deal here. the owner of the business where we are standing says all of his employees are aspiring musicians who come to nashville for a dream and work a day job. he is hesitant to open his business right away because he says besides the possibility of jeopardizing their health in opening too soon, it's also very costly to open a business that's only going to be operating at 50%. he doesn't want to have to stop and start, to open and then close his doors again. it's too expensive to do that. we spoke to him earlier today. here is what he had to say about the reopening. >> i think we all agree that the safety of the customers and our employees and our associates are
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the most important thing. i can't afford to open and then close again. the ones that choose to be the guinea pigs, i'm just going to be all eyes and ears and pay attention and watch. i think people are traumatized. the psychology of the situation they don't want to get on airplan airplanes. they don't want to get in mass gatherings. they don't want to go into a full service dining room right now. until people's fears are calmed, i think we're stuck. >> reporter: there you go, katy. there's mixed emotions among business owners. some very elated and others still have real worries about opening up. >> i think he summed it up really well, that business owner. until fears are calmed we are stuck. catie beck in nashville, thank you very much. a little over two weeks ago georgia lifted its closure of nonessential businesses for
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salons and gyms were able to reopen. then just a few days later movie theaters and restaurants were allowed to do the same. critics including at the time president trump said governor brian kemp's decision came too soon, even though he gave them the go-ahead privately, according to reports. now the eyes of the country are on georgia to see what happens next. so with me now from georgia is nbc news correspondent allison barber. allison, i know businesses are open there. what are you seeing in terms of foot traffic, and what's the psyche like of the georgian? >> reporter: katy, there's been a different feeling depending on who you talk to. the governor has been talking in recent days pointing to the number of confirmed covid-19 cases hospitalized saying it is at the lowest it has been since hospitals started reporting that data on april 8th. but still the total number of
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cases statewide continues to climb. we are now very close to 34,000 confirmed covid-19 cases in this state. this county is a designated hot spot in the state of georgia. this hospital is the largest one in the county. and doctors and nurses we have spoken to say they are expecting even more of a surge in the coming weeks. right now there are over 2,000 confirmed cases in this county to help with what they expect to be even more numbers of confirmed cases. the state is sending them cargo units. they will go right here on this footprint, they will start coming in tonight. you will have a number of containers that will be lined up here. they will then get it operational. the nurse overseeing it says it will be operational within a week or next monday. they will have 20 beds in this mobile unit. they are saying that it will be used to free up icu beds inside the hospital should they have this massive influx that they are expecting. they have two temporary mobile
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tents set up at this hospital's campus in gainesville, georgia. one of them on the other side of the hospital is already being used to treat covid-19 patients who have mild symptoms. they say they're hoping that tent can act as a buffer to help slow the spread so other doctors, nurses, other patients in the hospital maybe don't come into contact with people who have covid-19. there is a designated covid-19 unit inside of the hospital. we are able to get some cell phone video of what it looks like in that unit. if you look at this cell phone video provided to nbc news a little earlier today you can see the nurses standing there are wearing clear gowns. a hospital staffer told me that is because they are so low on their traditional gowns that they are having to make plastic gowns out of plastic that is used to make painters tarps. we spoke to one nurse who works on that floor, the designated covid-19 unit, it has changed her for forever. listen here.
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>> working on the covid unit changed me. it has changed my life, my family, my co-workers, and even my own patients. we come to work every day with hope. we don't know what's going to happen. it's been almost two months i've seen my parents. they're both 78, and i'm scared to see them. i'm scared to risk my family. >> reporter: 1,441 georgians have died of covid-19 as of this afternoon. katy? >> and more than 33,000 have been confirmed. the cases there are on the rise. i guess we're seeing what happens when you reopen. ellison barber, thank you very much for that sneak peek at what it's going to look like also inside that hospital. let's bring in the director of national center for disaster preparedness, and, doctor, i think what we're seeing around the country people are deciding that virus, okay, but we're going to have to reopen because
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we have to restart the economy. as health expert, somebody who is trained in disaster preparedness, what are you now expecting? >> well, i'm expecting exactly what we're already seeing, katy, which is a surge of new cases that will occur in every single one of these states that open prematurely. it could not be more clear. the fact is that if we attempt to reopen without seeing a real downturn in the number of cases and fatalities and especially without having the ability to do very rapid, very reliable testing, every single day on the people that work in and are employed by these businesses they want to open. you're not going to take your family to a restaurant when you don't know whether the kitchen staff or the servers have or don't have covid-19. you're not going to go to the barbershop or the nail salon or whatever else that you do. it's really extraordinarily
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irresponsible for these gover r governors that are operating in a world where they have something called immunity, sovereign immunity, from being sued. because if these governors or presidents of companies that were deliberately engaging in these efforts to open an economy while endangering lives they would be incredibly liable legally and morally for making decisions like this at this point. i can't say this strongly enough, katy. >> i wonder, are we asking the right question here? a doctor was on "meet the press" yesterday and he raised this saying we should be asking how to live with this virus. let me play his sound bite. >> somewhere between now and tomorrow, next year, we're going to see 60% to 70% of americans ultimately affected with this virus. we have to figure out not just how to die with the virus but
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how to live with it. we're not having that discussion. if you don't know where you're going, any road will get you there. that's where we're at, and we can't give people a false sense of security we're going to do more than we can. we have to live with how to live with the virus. >> let me ask you that question, dr. redlener, how do we live with this virus? >> first of all, i totally agree. he's been a voice of wisdom since this began, and we live with this virus by doing what people have done during world wars, during the pandemic of 1918, during all the other conflicts and stressful situations and disruptors we've had, we have to adapt to reality, and the reality, katy, is we don't yet have effective medications. we certainly don't have a vaccine that will get here anytime before a year to a year and a half from now. so living with covid-19 means getting used to sheltering in place, figuring out ways to
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re-establish our economy and basically standard of living for our many american families dependent on their annual paycheck. we have to figure that out. we can't do this in the absence of having the right tools. so learning to live with this is complicated, difficult and stressful. every family, including my own, has to deal with it. we have to expect there will be changes that will be around for a very long time. >> and not to bury the lead here but he's saying 60% to 70% of americans will ultimately get infected with this virus. i know others have said that in the past, but that's still a scary number given how unpredictable this virus can be with the human body. thank you very much for joining us, as always. we appreciate it. and still ahead a worldwide look at the global fight against the coronavirus pandemic from china to france, how governments are striking the balance between reopening their economies and keeping their citizens safe.
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also, follow the rules or lose funding. that is the warning pennsylvania's governor has issued. republican officials intent on reopening their counties in defiance of his statewide orders. inside the revolt that is dividing that swing state. but first, several children are dead after contracting a mystery illness with possible ties to covid-19. this is scary stuff. the more information you have on it, the better. so, parents, stay with us. how about no no uh uh, no way come on, no no n-n-n-no-no only discover has no annual fee on any card. i but what i do count on...ts anis boost high protein...rs, and now, there's boost mobility... ...with key nutrients to help support... joints, muscles, and bones. try boost mobility, with added collagen.
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a cafe in colorado fully reopened this weekend defying a statewide public health order limiting bars and restaurants to takeout or delivery service only. in the video posted to the internet the cafe was packed for mother's day. no masks, no social distancing. businesses big and small want to reopen as quickly as they can. we cannot state how agonizing it is to choose between your life and livelihood. reopening to quickly and too recklessly can mean long-term economic disaster according to the chief economist at moody's analytics. >> if we reopen too quickly and we see infections rise, a second wave, that causes more business disruption. we may not shut down again but it will scare people, spook people and weigh on the economy. that would be the fodder for depression.
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>> despite that and many other warnings some states are allowing restaurants to reopen to customers including arizona. with me from phoenix is nbc news reporter vaughn hillyard. that is quite a dire prediction from mark zandi. reopening too quickly and the virus spreading even if there's not another lockdown. make them not want to take the risk of going out, not want to spend their money. the state has started to lift the orders the past few days. >> reporter: let's take phoenix as an example. the fifth largest city and there's a lot of variables at play. it allows restaurants to begin again, dine-in services. on friday retail operations were allowed to reopen. at the same time it's not like you see crazy lunch crowds like that video, the fight life here
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is far from what it usually is, and i want to bring you just one example why that is. a lot of folks are making the decision not to go that route. give folks a sense what this is. >> we have the issue of being a space with a lot of different uses. it's two bars, four restaurants, four retail spaces where a community gathering space that did have a capacity of 550 people and we're pretty open air. >> reporter: so 550. now what is your capacity at? >> we're working on that now as you can see, rearranging furniture, taking our first pass and looking for distancing. i think we'll target 140 to 150 people. >> reporter: you're allowed to open but you're not. why? >> we didn't feel, one, we
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wanted to be responsible in terms of taking care of our staff and taking care of the people that are going to come here. we do feel we will be uniquely suited to do a good job of creating space for people. it did feel like trying to get open today or even friday did not seem possible. we're going to do our best and we're hoping to be ready. >> reporter: a lot of folks like cal we're talking to. they're also not opening to folks inside. a lot of the business owners tell us they feel they have making this decision themselves. >> vaughn hillyard, thank you very much. and we want to take you to an important story, not that they're not all important but this one may be more so for parents. children in nine states and d.c. have fallen ill with an illness believed to be linked to covid-19. one mother thought her son was showing signs of allergies,
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itchy eyes, headache and a fever, but his symptoms only worsened. >> we met him in the cardiac icu where we were told that it appeared he was in the middle of heart failure. they ended up taking a blood test and were able to discover that the blood test came back positive for the covid-19 antibodies. they ask them to be on alert for fever, rashes, abdominal or chest pain, any changes in skin color or increased rapid heart rate. dr. james wood at riley hospital for children, dr. wood is a part of a team studying this new syndrome. doctor, i keep hearing this is being compared to kawasaki disease.
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. >> kawasaki is an inflammation disease. we don't know what triggers it and know in children that are seemingly susceptible to this their body reacts to a trigger and they develop a massive amount of inflammation. with fevers, with rash, and the symptoms you mentioned. what we're seeing in children now is there seems to be very similar symptoms but the link is they were either exposed or had past infection to covid-19. >> it's still relatively rare when you take the size of the population. how concerned should people be? >> yeah, i think that being aware of it is really important. i don't want parents to be panicked or overly concerned but as a medical profession and as the public being aware of what the symptoms are is very important.
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we are leveraging the resources we have for other types of illnesses like this such as kawasaki to help understand it more. any symptoms that are concerning talking to your doctor and pediatrician is important to get on top of it early. >> let's talk about the symptoms. i said my son had a weird rash and it freaked me out because this news was starting to break. it's mostly subsided, but there are still spots. is a rash alone okay? is a fever alone not something to be too worried about? are you looking for a fever, a rash, and other symptoms as well? >> every person gets ailments. they will not be this syndrome.
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i think the big thing to stress here is the overwhelming inif inflammation with fever, if they are persisting and not getting better, those are the types to get in contact with your doctor. the fever plus other things that just don't seem to be getting better. if you have anything like that it's always good to speak with your doctor, with your pediatrician so they can help decide where we need to go. we don't want people to react too much to these symptoms but certainly if things aren't getting better as a parent when you think they should be it's always good to talk to a medical professional. >> the kids that have come down with it have most ly recovered, it seems like. what are we seeing for the recovery rate and long-term effects?
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>> that's a great question we would like to know the answer to. we don't know long term what to expect. the vast majority of children do very well when treated promptly. most children when they're coming to medical attention they're getting appropriately treated and the medical community has done a great job coming together recognizing this early and working together to figure out what's going on. they'll need to be watched closely by their doctor. as of right now it seems children are doing well overall. >> just to be clear the children that are coming down with this, are testing positive for the covid-19 antibodies, so they had the virus at some point even though they didn't present symptoms of it. >> that's right. most of the children who have
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come down with the syndrome have tested positive meaning they had it most likely at some point. some had no symptoms at all. some were asymptomatic but tested positive for the antibodies. this is most likely a reaction after or what we call a post infectious syndrome or after the virus not concurrent with the illness. >> dr. james wood, thank you for trying to sort through what we know and don't know. we appreciate your expertise. >> thank you. still ahead, we'll go around the world, countries that reopened are now seeing spikes in cases. what does that mean for us? first, a revolt in california. counties planning to reopen anyway and the state is issuing a warning. the state's lieutenant governor joins me next. introducing ore-ida potato pay. where ore-ida golden crinkles are your crispy currency to pay for bites of this...
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so even senate hearings on the coronavirus are not immune to the virus itself. four white house task force members scheduled to testify tomorrow before the health committee will now make remote appearances instead. they were all exposed in some degree to an infected white house staffer. and committee chairman lamar alexander won't be there either. he'll lead the hearing video yeah videoconference after one of his staffers tested positive.
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msnbc correspondent garrett haake, what should we expect for tomorrow? >> reporter: katy, i think we should expect this to look a lot like the zoom calls we probably all had over the weekend and on mother's day. the majority will probably not be in the room. we've been asking around and many of the senators told us they're going to be attending remotely just like their witnesses, just like the chairperson and ranking member. it's really the first time we've seen dr. fauci and other figures who have been heavily involved in the response be able to come and give their own testimony away from the editorial guidance, let's say, of the white house. there are a lot of questions backed up for republicans and democrats alike. >> garrett haake from capitol hill. thank you very much. and there is growing resistance in pennsylvania to what the governor is doing.
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lifting restrictions on counties that have low or declining cases of coronavirus. stay-at-home orders remain in place everywhere else but some of the closed counties are moving ahead anyway. lancaster is the latest to announce it will reopen on may 15th despite an order to remain shut down. and over the weekend in york county a state representative held an in person town meeting with 150 people. the majority did not wear masks. some were photographed shaking hands, hugging and sitting close. a stern warning was given to counties planning to go their own way. >> to those politician who is decide to cave in to this coronavirus, they need to understand the consequences of their cowardly act. the funding we have put aside to help with fighting this crisis will go to the folks who are doing their part, and that includes our c.a.r.e.s. act funding which will be used to support counties following the orders to prevent the spread in the medical communities treating
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patients. however, other discretionary funding won't go to counties that put us all at risk by operating illegally. >> let's bring in the lieutenant governor of pennsylvania, thank you for joining us. why is there a partisan divide on this? why is it republicans versus democrats on this issue? >> i don't know but it's very sad that it is. the event you mentioned that occurred in york is where i grew up. my prom was at that hall. it said we have the governor on the ropes and i don't understand why anyone would express that sentiment. we want the virus on the ropes. it's been politicized and the president tweeted out a few hours ago that adding to that, and it's just not helpful. we have a common enemy and that's the virus.
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>> what about withholding state funding to those counties? >> the governor has employed a very soft voice. the big stick is carried by the virus. i have to tell you i wish these counties, if they go ahead with what they're threatening, i wish them well because a lot of people in the counties i know and love including my own parents and they're of an advanced age that have the medical conditions that place them at heightened risk. everyone should understand the stakes at play here. the governor has always been trying to strikeout a balance between lines and livelihood and we absolutely can't have a healthy economy if we have a sick population. and these renegade counties risk sliding back and causing further outbreaks before opening before time. >> the president says the people of pennsylvania want their freedom and they're fully aware of what that entails.
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and he also claims the democrats are moving slowly all over the country for political purposes. he's claiming the election is involved here and democrats are slow rolling it. there are others that say the president is putting the election in play here by calling for states to be liberated. when he says that the people are fully aware of what that entails are pennsylvanians, the ones that want to reopen aware other people might die if their economies get back online? >> i think the significant majority of pennsylvanians support what the president is attempting. the overwhelming majority were red counties and the northwest and the north central part of the state. and those that will reopen, the majority of them are red counties, so to speak.
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nearly 4,000 of our fellow citizens and based on our own health statistics has been almost 40 times more lethal than the annual influenza virus. this idea it's just like the flu has been 40 times more deadly here in pennsylvania. >> what has the response been to people wearing masks in your state? >> a duty or an obligation and a response. it's the mark of oppression and i'm utterly baffled. any more than a seat belt is, other than doing your part. what we would ask of our citizenry to protect yourself and to protect the person you're interacting with. you have heroes working on the front lines, whether they're in hospitals or in the grocery store.
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why wouldn't you want to wear a mask. it feelsmask. it's a very low threshold to protect yourself and fellow resident. >> what's stopping someone from a red state from traveling to a yellow state and frequenting their local businesses there? >> effectively nothing. >> yellow to red county, i'm sorry. >> again, and that's what i'm saying. i grew up in one of these counties talking about rebelling and my parents live there. i'm rooting for pennsylvania. the fight for pennsylvania not with pennsylvanians. this is determined by the virus' path. the virus doesn't care what political party you're in, what
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county you live in. we need to and we have to and these counties that are moving forward are doing so because the underlying metrics are there. i want to point out the overwhelming majority of these counties that have been cleared aren't red counties. this has nothing to do with politics but everything to do with trying to create a healthy return with a healthy population. >> thank you for your time. we appreciate it. >> thank you for having us. >> queen elizabeth may stay in isolation until there's a vaccine. russia has the third most cases in the world, and shanghai disneyland is partially reopening while another chinese city is still on lockdown. keir simmons will take us around the world. later, the growing armies that will help us track this
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balance. many are finding it easier said than done. joining me is senior international correspondent keir simmons. keir, take us around the world. >> reporter: the british prime minister right now is answering questions and facing, frankly, the same nightmare many politicians around the world are facing which is how to encourage people to unlock the lockdown but slowly, carefully. the british have decided to introduce an alert system a bit like traffic lights that will warn people again if the virus is resurging and tell them to be more krcareful, to get back in their homes. it shows you how nervous people are. as most of europe relaxes the rules, britain reopening more slowly and ready to reimpose restrictions if necessary. the queen may not return to public duties, reports say, until a vaccine is found.
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buckingham palace telling nbc news she's taking appropriate advice. prime minister boris johnson himself hospitalized by coronavirus trying to give his country hope. >> we will come back from this devil i devilish crisis. we will stay alert, control the virus and save lives. >> reporter: russia's president putin rocked by the rise of coronavirus now more than 10,000 infections there a day. a small event replacing an elaborate celebration to mark 75 years since the end of world war ii. in germany days after relaxing the rules the infection rate rising again and anger building. minor protests including far-right groups, led to clashes with police. scenes repeated in australia. ten people were arrested and
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police injured. controversially brushing off the risks again taking to a jet ski and a floating barbecue. highlighting hunger among the poor in brazil caused by the coronavirus crisis. latin america's second largest airline filing for bankruptcy. these are anxious days in asia, too. only at 30% capacity to allow for social distancing, another chinese city is in lockdown. china's infections increasing for a second day fueling fears of a second wave. experts tell me, katy, governments will have to get used to facing one challenge after another. one quick example if the uk has controlled the infection then it is going to lockdown and force people to quarantine for two weeks if they try to fly in causing problems for the
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airlines. >> what's the reaction been to the stay alert slogan that boris johnson is now using? >> reporter: we had a week where the british government sort of was indicating from today things were going to change and then they really got talked down partly by the science. it's very difficult because what critics say is unless you're absolutely clear, and you are having the same debate. unless you're crystal clear, people don't know what they're supposed to do. we have months of this, experts say, maybe more than that. >> i believe my colleague chuck todd called it a confusing response from this administration. keir, thank you very much. today france's eight-week lockdown is finally, albeit slowly, starting to loosen.
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they can sit outside, take a walk, use public transportation and they can go shopping. joining me is correspondent molly hunter. from the looks of the video there are a lot of folks wearing masks. >> reporter: katy, that's right. boy, did they go stopping today. earlier today this was packed with people, the shops were all open. huge lines, people just couldn't wait. now a lot of people are wearing masks. there's been a lot, does the government provide them, a lot of people making masks here just like in the states but a lot of things that make paris paris, the restaurants, the cafes, the museums, the double kiss greeting. none of that is happening. we spoke with an american from
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ohio here in paris and the u.s. >> it's odd to watch the united states and what's happening from here in france. here it's a social contract. in the states it's more about me. in europe they've taken a lot stronger measures it seems to be the case it's proving to work. it's difficult to watch it from here almost like watching a train wreck almost. >> reporter: i heard that from a lot of parisians. they have a lot of challenges, school and transportation. the kids don't go back until later this week. one thing paris is doing is hand picking the kids to go back to school first. kids from the households of the most vulnerable families and kids of essential workers. it's something i think a lot of cities might be looking at. katy? >> molly hunter with that eye-opening sound. thank you very much. next, states are forming new
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state governments are now building what they're calling armies of contact tracers. thousands of newly trained staff and volunteers will get to work tracing and identifying people who could be infected with coronavirus. with me now is dr. laura grier who leads the mayo clinic tease contact tracing efforts. as the medical director of occupational health services. dr. grier, thank you very much for joining us. we keep hearing about contact tracing. there are people out there who are worried about their identity in all of this. can you ease some of those concerns? >> sure. so, contact tracing starts with identifying someone who's positive for covid-19 and that privacy is something that our
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teams take very seriously. we disclose only the minimum amount of information to individuals to make sure that we know if they've been exposed or not. and it's a very important concept in public health. >> so when you first find out somebody is positive for coronavirus and you ask them who they've been in contact with, when you call the people that they've been in contact with, what are you telling them to do? >> when we call the people they've been in contact with, we're first asking several questions. we're asking about the details of their contact, how long it might have been, whether they were wearing a mask or eye protection, and how close they were to the person to see if we think that they may have been exposed. sometimes, we find out that they weren't exposed to the individual. >> you mentioned eye protection. that has not been a standard guideline across the country. are you saying that people should be wearing eye protection when they're going out in public, as well?
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>> so, the cornerstones of prevention are social distancing, which we've heard a lot about, maintaining a distance of at least 6 feet from others and universal masking, which has been encouraged when going out in public, as well. eye protection is an added pressure that we use in the health care setting, because there are definitely situations where some of our patients can't be masked. >> how important is this in order to be able to reopen the economy safely? >> so, i think contact tracing is extremely important. it's kind of the safety net that we have if some of those other preventative measures, if people fall through those cracks. so we want to make sure people are practicing social distancing, doing diligent hand washing, wearing the appropriate personal protective equipment. definitely staying home if they're sick or if they know that they were exposed to someone who is sick. but if someone gets exposed
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unexpectedly, contact tracing is essential to be able to identify those that may have come in contact with someone with covid-19. so it doesn't keep spreading like wildfire. >> i, for one, would like to know if i've come in contact with somebody. the more information, the better. dr. laura grier, thank you so much for joining us today. we appreciate your time. >> thank you so much. >> that is it for me today. i will be back at 5:00 p.m. eastern filling in for chuck todd on "meet the press daily," because as it is monday, as i always do. brian williams and nicole wallace pick up our coverage right after a very quick break. your mission:
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good day. brian williams here with you. 3:00 p.m. here in the east, 12:00 noon out west. nicole wallace will join us momentarily. first, we have for you now a look at the headlines and the facts as we know them at this hour. the death toll from coronavirus in the united states now stands at roughly 81,000. projections are now showing the number of dead in this country could hit the 100,000 mark by the end of next week. president trump scheduled to head to the white house rose garden an hour from now for a press conference. his first in two weeks. we are likely to hear a number of grievances. he was on twitter on a tear on mother's day, 125 of them in 16 hours.
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at one point, averaging one every seven and a half minutes, aiming most of his anger at barack obama and the news media and not the ongoing pandemic and rising death toll. meanwhile, the coronavirus continues its deep reach into the trump white house and the administration. in addition to the president's valet, the vice president's press secretary, now dr. anthony fauci, the cdc director, the fda commissioner, dr. steven hahn with are now all in some form of self-quarantine after coming into contact with a white house staffer who tested positive for the coronavirus. these officials still plan to testify at a senate hearing tomorrow by video conference. and a number of people who work in the chicago office of illinois governor j.b. pritzker are also working from home today after a senior staff member there tested positive. pritzker's office says the governor and other employees have been tested. their results were negative, but they are self-isolating as a
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precaution. if you follow the news this weekend, you saw pritzker has been in a court fight to extend the stay-at-home guidelines for his state. at this point, i am joined by my colleague, nicole wallace, host of "deadline white house." and nicole, dare i say, we are as primed for a recitation of grievances in the rose garden as we have ever been during this crisis. it's in the white house now. arguably, the testing and contact tracing going on in the white house is the most diligent in the country. all of that goes squarely against the president's plot line. >> right, and the cases that we know about are the ones that have spilled into public view. we don't know about the cases -- i mean, there is such thing as medical privacy in this country. there may be more than the three infections that have been reported by the news media. what's so remarkable, though, is
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that even when the pandemic reaches into donald trump's home, his valet worked in his residence, not in the west wing, and deep inside the vice president's staff, his press secretary, katie miller, sat in every coronavirus task force meeting. she sat with the entire group of human beings that are tasked with protecting every american from the pandemic. they were all exposed. so for donald trump not to value their health, it explains a little bit, doesn't it? why he wouldn't value ours. >> it sure does. it sure does. >> and as it all starts to add up, as the coronavirus spreads in the west wing, the white house is taking a few more steps to contain it. an administration official tells nbc news that white house staffers received a memo urging them to work from home if possible. but it makes no mention of masks or other face coverings. here's what economic adviser kevin hassett said about working in the white house during an
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appearance on cbs' "face the nation." >> i practice aggressive social distancing. i'll wear a mask when i feel it's necessary. it is scary to go to work. you know, i was not part of the white house in march. i think that i'd be a lot safer if i was sitting at home than i would be going to the west wing. but it's a time when people have to step up and serve their country. it's a small, crowded place. it's a little bit risky, but you have to do it because you have to serve your country. and there are a lot of things you can't do except there. joining our conversation now, connecticut democratic senator, chris murphy, who sits on the foreign relations and health committee. senator murphy, you will hear from some of those individuals that brian and i were just talking about. the people responsible for protecting the entire country from the effects of this pandemic, mitigating its spread. three of them, as brian said, are at home, self-quarantining themselves. on a scale of one to ten, where do you rate the crisis of the
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leaders of the executive branch in charge of the pandemic? >> well, i mean, we have had just an absolute abysmal failure of leadership from the white house since the very beginning. effectively, after the travel ban, a travel ban that just didn't work. 400,000 people got in from those countries that were subject to the restrictions. after that, the president just gave up. the president and his team effectively gave up. they run a task force, they have press conferences, but they have effectively left the response to the states and to hospital systems and to municipalities. and even when they do try to intervene, it frankly makes the situation often much worse than if they had done nothing. i mean, we're going to have these officials appearing before us tomorrow, largely via video, because of this outbreak at the white house. and one of the clear questions we have for them is, are you making the situation better or worse by having a half-way hand into the supply chain?
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right now what keeps me up at night as we start to reopen connecticut in about ten days is testing. and right now, the administration refuses to take control of the testing supply chain. but they keep their hand in it just enough so that no one really knows who's in charge. is it the white house that's deciding where testing machines go? is it the testing companies? is it the highest bidder that gets them? so we need to understand what the white house and the administration is doing and what they're not doing, so we can effectively plan a response. sometimes, a little bit of action is almost worse than no action at all. >> senator murphy, i believe this will be the first time the cdc has faced questions from congress since a model that the cdc put together projecting the death rate to double this month, as we march up to june 1st and the infection rate to quadruple. is that something that you plan to ask about? >> well, we have a lot of questions for the cdc.
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we want to know where these reopening guidelines are. the fact that they have been squashed by the white house and that they are not available to states is unconscionable. listen, we have smart public health people at the state level, but frankly, the job of creating detailed recommendations for when it's safe to reopen really is best lodged in the federal government, where the best experts are. we also have questions about these revised estimates and the worst-case scenario that's been given to the president should states reopen too early, 3,000 people dying per day. and then i've also got questions for the cdc about why we're not a bigger part of the international response. right now, there's an international coalition that's working to develop a vaccine, but the united states hasn't joined that coalition. why not? why are we sitting on the outside of what may be ultimately the successful effort by other countries to develop a vaccine. we're only going to have a couple of hours with these officials, but there's a long list of questions.
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>> senator, just to go back two items to mr. hassett, making the rounds on sunday, in that interview, he talks about how legitimately scary feeling it must be in the west wing and the old executive office building. he says he would feel much safer at home, but he has to come to work to serve the american people. it didn't have to be this either/or. it doesn't have to require such gallantry and bravery. there was a way to police and make safe the west wing and the people around the president. >> well, and just imagine how someone feels if they're walking into a workplace that doesn't have physicians on call. that doesn't have universal testing. just imagine how folks feel when they're showing up to a police department or to a restaurant or to a school cafeteria service
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that's still handing out meals in the morning? i agree that the white house should probably have more access to testing and health care professionals than other workplaces. this is the white house, after all. these are the people that are supposed to be in charge of the national security of this country. but i just want to make sure that they understand how fearful so many of our front line workers are being out there, protecting people, caring for folks that are sick when the federal government doesn't seem to care enough to develop a national testing plan or a national quarantine plan or to take control of the supply chain, so that we have enough ppe on the front lines. it's scary to go to work at the white house or in congress. it's a lot scarier to go to work today out in nursing homes, hospitals, schools, and restaurants. >> yeah, let me ask you about you and your 99 colleagues. you're the only 100 u.s. senators we have. and the work you do is important, especially with the american people looking to you
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for what may be the fourth tranche of aid. what is work like and how much real discussion has gone in to telecommuting for 100 members of the senate and staying home in your home states, as opposed to gathering, which as no one needs to remind you, brings together staff, u.s. capital police and so on. >> yeah and that so on is janitors and cafeteria workers. it's not just high-level political figures and staff that have to come to the capitol every day. my feeling is this, brian. and i do think we're essential workers. i think we have to pass another relief package fast in order to get money down to the states and schools that desperately need it. but i think that that's what makes us essential. and the reality is, is that last week and this week, the senate is back voting on things that have nothing to do with this
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virus. and so we're putting, you know, ourselves, but our staff and our lower-paid workforce at work, you know, to essentially do non-essential business. so i'm not one of those that doesn't think congress should be in session. i think we should be here, but only if we're actually doing the work to oversee this disastrous response from the administration and pass new legislation that's going to help us take it on. >> well, senator, to you, your family, everybody in your work orbit, please stay safe. thank you very much for taking time to talk to us today. we appreciate it. chris murphy, democrat of connecticut. when we come back after our first break, as more states reopen, which ones are actually seeing an upturn, perhaps a spike in cases? steve kornacki has been crunching the numbers. he will join us from the converted big board. plus, the latest from florida, where the state's republican governor is facing criticism for not being quite transparent about the death toll in that state.
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>> a great point new yorkers really do deserve to take a bow. i hope most of them continue to take that bow indoors. that was the governor of the state, andrew cuomo, at today's briefing, where he announced the state will begin to at least ease some restrictions on businesses starting this friday. for weeks, public health experts have stressed that until our country is able to achieve widespread testing nationwide, the economy cannot successfully reopen. we talk about it every day and every night here. as of now, the u.s. is conducting an estimated 300,000 tests a day in a nation of close to 330 million people. with us to the converted to cover big board is steve kornacki who has a closer look at where we stand on testing and what it could mean in the months ahead. and steve, perhaps, channeling you, when we got off the air
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friday night, i went around the interactive maps of the country, looking at what states were sadly beginning what could have been an upward graph based on by then the last information period of available, which was may 7th. >> yeah, so we've got the weekend, some more data coming in. a couple of things on this testing, new cases reopening question. you mentioned it, brian, the testing number is now sitting about 300,000 a day. so there has been a clear increase here from a couple of weeks ago, from about two or three weeks ago. and i do think that's one thing in keep in mind, when you look at some of these states and start to look at more cases in some of these states. one question i think you need to ask when you see those reports is, is it because there are specific outbreaks taking place in these states that are really accelerating the numbers versus how much of it is a function of having more tests, because there are a lot of states here that were doing basically no testing a couple of weeks ago that are basically starting to do it. take a look at the states that
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have seen the biggest increases in testing rate for the last two weeks. over the last two weeks. some are not a surprise here. rhode island, they've been very big with testing. new york, obviously, you were just showing there, cuomo, new york, the big outbreak state. bigger than any other, massachusetts as well. but this is interesting. north dakota, if you were looking at the rate of testing a couple of weeks ago in north dakota, very low. but suddenly, you can see by this, north dakota ramping up very quickly. you're starting to see a lot of other states here that weren't really on that list a couple of weeks ago. they are starting to advance in the testing area in a pretty significant way. you get to that question then of these states that are reopening. and we should say, reopening in one state can look very different in reopening in other states. in some states, in-person dine conclude allowed with 25% capacity. in other states, you still have to go pick up your food curbside due to a big variance in how they are doing it in these states. but remember these guidelines, these federal guidelines that the white house put out for states a couple of weeks ago. they said, a two-week decline in your case load or a two-week decline in the rate of tests you
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take that come back positive. again, those are the standards they want the states to be meeting here, to be thinking about needing to reopen. take a look at it this way. these are the states, it's the clear majority of the country right now that in some way are doing some form of reopening right now. again, it can vary widely between these states. it can vary widely within these states. but you see the vast majority of states are doing some form of opening. those two criteria, it's not specific how you calculate those numbers. there are different ways to calculate those numbers. so we said, which states could make an argument that they are meeting those two criteria, when it comes to cases, and when it comes to the positivity rate. and actually, everything you see kind of shaded in here with the lines through it, those are states that have an argument to make based on these numbers that over the last two weeks they've seen this. you see one, two, three, four, five, six of the states right now that are doing some kind of reopening, really are not meeting those numbers that we're talking about. those two numbers, two
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guidelines the white house set out. the other states that are reopening, they could make an argument, the numbers, depending on how you run them, maybe meet that criteria. and again, you've got 11 states here that haven't even started any reopening yet, where the cases have been pretty bad in some cases. >> steve, go back to just not physically, but the point you made about north dakota coming in second behind rhode island. is that because of the hot spots surrounding meat preparation facilities, that the squeaky wheel gets the grease and suddenly north dakota had airlifted in a big testing capacity because of a problem that developed? >> yeah, you've seen that. meat packing plants. you've seen this in some other states where prisons, where they've tested entire prison populations. so i think when you start looking at these increases in case load, that's what you start looking at here. is it a function of more testing, is it a function, can you trace it to a meat packing plant, trace to it a prison? what exactly is driving those numbers. we are basically double where we
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were a couple of weeks ago in testing. >> steve kornacki at the big board, which we presume will be refitted at some point in the coming months to cover politics again. steve, thank you, as always. and we are joined once again by dr. lippy roy. she's an internal medicine physician and among our medical contributors. dr., what does it do to you to hear the discussion devolve to mathematics? it's states that are kind of trying to find their way to victory in the two competing categories for reopening. trying to say, look, we're on the -- when the discussion should be, and really is about public health. >> good afternoon, brian. the conversation and discussion and national narrative should always have been about public health. if you want to use the enemy analogy, the one enemy we've had from the beginning until today
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is a virus. and this virus, we have created a perfect environment for it to thrive, right? as a human species, we have zero immunity against this virus. and on top of that, we're making life easy for this virus, because we continue to congregate. so in states like new york, where we've done a fairly good job at maintaining that physical distancing and isolation, we are simply not seeing that in other states. and as you pointed out, other states are actually proactively opening up. look, these are -- again, it's a false dichotomy, economy versus public -- they don't have to be separate. we can do both safely, but we need to implement a strategic public health plan in order to keep the employees and customers safe. >> doctor, we're coming off another may weekend. this one happened to be mother's day weekend. the weather happened to be fair across much of our population
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centers. in the public health business, as you and i have discussed, you are fighting human nature right now, aren't you? >> we are fighting human nature, yes. and i'll be honest, brian. when i saw the weather getting nice, i went for a run in central park, but, you know, i wore my mask, i kept a significant distance. look, when the weather gets nice, particularly in the northeast, people are going to want to go out. again, i think this can be done safely. say at beaches and parks, if people wear the mask, but the mask is a supplement to the physical distance. you know, if we can manage to do that, then i think people can stay safe, but it's going to be very difficult, i think, for people to fight that urge to enjoy the good weather while
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still in the midst of a pandemic. it's going to be challenging. >> are you satisfied that americans are learning the back and forth, the up and down of what's required now. they're learning good public health, hygiene, separation habits. i fear that we're going to have to employ these habits, some of us, for a good, long time to com come. >> to address your last statement there, no question, brian. you've heard that expression, new normal. we're going to have additional epidemics. there's no question about that. we're not even through the, frankly, the first wave of this current epidemic or pandemic. yeah, it's going to be a new normal. we're going to have to be implementing all of these new measures. i do believe that the vast majority of people, based on polling data that i've seen, the
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vast majority of people are really understanding that this is a serious health problem. and it's affected their behavior and it's manifesting in positive ways in terms of hand hygiene and social distancing. but, we are not seeing this universally, right? we're seeing people say, oh, it's a hoax, they're bringing out their ammunition, not that that's going to work against a virus. so i feel like there's some mixed messaging. i still feel that that's the majority of people who aren't really understanding or appreciating the true nature of this problem, which is ultimately a health problem, but i'm optimistic that with right story telling combined with science, we'll be able to convince everyone that this is -- that we need to work together to fight this. >> and a final question, especially here in the new york area. we're hearing more and more of these virulent cases in
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children, in some cases, fatal. for those of us lay people, is this a mutating virus, is this an ancillary illness, is this illness attached to this virus and why these specific patients. i'm also assuming there's a heck of a lot that we don't know yet. >> yeah, in fact, i'll pick up from that last point, brian. there's so much more that we need to learn about this virus, that i've talked to you about this before. that we're learning something new every day. this is an unfortunate development that children are being affected now. what we're suspecting is that these children were probably infected about four to six weeks back, they were probably infected by an adult, but it's -- they're now exhibiting what we are considering like a post-infectious type of physical manifestati
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manifestation. it's -- the children, their immune system is surging in reaction to the virus. and so for parents with children, look out for fever, diarrhea, abdominal pain, some kids might get a rash or red eyes. but the good news, brian, is that most of these children are actually responding well. once they get timely treatment. steroids, antibiotics, ivig, which is intraveno intravenousimmunoglobul intravenousimmunoglobulin. but my thoughts to the parents of the children who have passed away. we need to learn more about the science so we can take care of these people. >> thank you for always being available to take our questions. we greatly appreciate it. another break for us. when we come back, the republican governor of florida under fire for critics who say
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