start a new week. thanks for being here with us. on behalf of all of my colleagues at the networks of nbc news, good night from our temporary field headquarters. at a white house rose garden event, president trump declares that the united states has prevailed on testing, even as the white house imposes stricter safety measures for staffers. also, the president claims cases of coronavirus are falling throughout the country, but that statement is at odds with an unreleased white house report shows virus rates spiking in the heartland. and today on capitol hill, dr. anthony fauci is scheduled to appear before congress and will reportedly offer a warning about reopening the economy too soon. ♪

good tuesday morning, everybody. it is may 12th, just in case you were wondering. days do blend together these days. with more than 1.3 million cases of the coronavirus here in the united states, and the death toll at nearly 82,000, the president is claiming that his administration has, quote, prevailed when it comes to testing. in the rose garden yesterday, the president was flanked by two large banners that read america leads the world in testing. even though the numbers appear to tell a different story. the president tried to project confidence about reopening the economy, but he found himself on the defensive when questioned by reporters. >> in your comments earlier, we have met the moment, we have prevailed. to you, sir, is the mission accomplished even with 1. -- >> no, we prevailed on testing is what i'm referring to.

you never prevail when you have 90,000 people, 100,000 people, when you have 80,000 people as of today, when you have the kind of death you're talking about, when you have potentially millions of people throughout the world that are dieing. that's not prevailing. what i'm talking about is we have a great testing capacity now. it's getting even better. if people want to get tested, they get tested. we have the greatest capacity in the world. not even close. if people want to get tested, they get tested. but for the most part, they should want to get tested. >> your senior staff, as you just referenced, is able to get tested every day. when will it be that americans across the country will be able to get tested every day as they go back to work? >> very soon. really, very soon. normally you would have said that you are not tested and you would have been, you know, knocking us for not getting tested. so if we get tested, it's a

problem and if we don't get tested, it's a problem. but i like the way your question was phrased better this way because it is a positive. >> when will the rest of america have the same access that members of your own white house have for testing? >> and you know what? if we did no tests in the white house you would be up complaining why aren't you getting tested at the white house? we can't win. now that we're doing so well on tests and so quick and so fast, five minutes, etcetera, and so accurate, you're complaining that we're getting too many tests. so you can't win. >> so then the president abruptly ended his news conference after asking for more questions in the rose garden yesterday. it all happened after a tense exchange with two reporters. watch this part. >> you said many times that the u.s. is doing far better than any other country when it comes to testing. >> yes. >> why does that matter? why is this a global competition to you if every day americans

are still losing their lives and we're still seeing more cases every day? >> well, they're losing their lives everywhere in the world. and maybe that's a question you should ask china. don't ask me. ask china question, okay? when you ask them that question, you may get a very unusual answer. yes, blind you, please. >> sir, why are you saying that to me specifically, that i should ask china? >> i'm telling you. i'm not specifically asking it to anybody. i'm asking anybody that is a nasty question. >> that is not a nasty question. why does it matter? >> please, go ahead in the back, please. >> no, that's okay. >> but you pointed to me. i have two questions, mr. president. >> but you called on me. >> i did and you didn't respond and -- >> sorry, i just wanted to let me colleague finish but can i ask you -- >> ladies and gentlemen, thank you very much. appreciate it. thank you very much. >> and that is how it ended.

so nearly two months since new york went into lockdown mode. parts of the hard-hit state are beginning to reopen in carefully planned phases. the governor announced yesterday that three regions of the empire state have met strict guidelines, including increased testing and declines in virus cases to begin reopening this weekend. limited construction. manufacturing. and curbside retail will be allowed to resume in the finger lakes, southern tier and mohawk valley areas as you see there on the map. meanwhile, certain low-risk businesses and activities, including landscaping and gardening work, outdoor sports like tennis and drive-in movie theaters can open on friday as new york shelter in place orders do expire. while parts of the state look to open, new york city has only met four of the seven criteria to meet that process here. the city's death toll now stands at more than 20,000 people.

that number continues to go up. that number accounts for more than 75% of the state's total fatalities. new data is showing coronavirus infection rates are spiking to new highs in several metropolitan areas in smaller communities across the country. according to some undisclosed data, the white house's pandemic task force is using to track infection, the numbers contradict the president's claim yesterday that the infection rates are coming down rapidly nationwide. according to last week's report, the heartland reported surges of nearly 75% over a seven-day period compared to the previous week. cities on that list include nashville, amarillo, texas, and atop the list with a 650% increase, central city, kentucky. also the nation's top infectious disease expert intends to warn the senate that americans would experience, quote, needless

suffering and death if the country opens up too quickly. dr. anthony fauci, expected to make his first appearance before congress since president trump declared a national emergency back in march when he testifies remotely at a high profile hearing before the senate health education labor and pen chavent committee. fauci intends to warn the senate against the dangers if the united states opens up too quickly. in an email, fauci previewed his message to senators saying in part this, if we skip over the checkpoints in the guidelines to open america again, then we risk the danger of multiple outbreaks throughout the country. this will not only result in needless suffering and death, but would actually set us back on our quest to return to

normal. let's get into a bit of this. joining me now from the washington examiner magazine, jay caruso. good morning to you. great to see you on this tuesday morning. i hope you are well. how do you expect the senate to respond to a message like i just read that dr. fauci previewed to reporters at the "new york times" warning against the reopening the country, warning against, excuse me, reopening the country too early? >> well, it's not even so much i'm concerned about the senators listening to him. it should be the governors listening to him across the state. in a time when there's that many people unemployment, we have about 15% unemployment rate. it will probably be higher next month. it's understandable that states want to reopen.

but at the same time, there has to be caution. there's nothing wrong with people cautious about reopening. risking some of these outbreaks, we saw what happened in south korea, one of the countries that handled this virus the best. they had to close down clubs again once they saw that there were some outbreaks there, some people were getting infected as a result of that. so it's just a matter of this is one of those cases where you listen to the scientists and, you know, ignore all the talk about fauci and what his agenda is. basically, he's got an agenda that says, i want to see the country reopen but i don't want to see any needless suffering as a result of moving too quickly

to.respond to flpolitical appreciates. >> so can we be comfortable with the fact that president trump supporters are not seeing fauci as someone who is trying to mislead them, but instead, trying to warn them against opening up too early? can we be confident that a republican-controlled senate will listen to dr. fauci's warnings, despite the fact that they have repeatedly been on the side of the president? >> i think so. and i think ron desantis is probably getting a little bit of a bad wrap. i think florida is opening more carefully than people might think. i'm not as sure about texas, but florida is.

the majority of governors are kinds of going along with the white house guidelines and opening a little bit more carefully. colorado, which has a democratic governor, is opening in the same fashion. so they are listening to them. i think the senate is -- i think the senate will take fauci's words, you know, to heart, and they will listen to him rather than just concern themselves with making themselves look good in front of president trump. >> so then the question is what do they do with that information? do they appeal to the president if they feel like he is moving too quickly? that is the question. jay caruso, stay close. going to talk to you again in just a little bit. still ahead, president trump defending his handling of the virus infections inside of the white house. also, the legal battle surrounding the president's financial records. yeah, we're still talking about that. heading to the supreme court today. legal analyst danny cevallos is here to weigh in on that.

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welcome back, everybody. can the president enable others to defy a congressional subpoena? that is ultimately the question the scattered showers will answer after arguments made later today. in cases the atlantic says could change the balance of power in our government, attorneys for the president will argue that the house oversight and financial services committees who have subpoenaed the president's financial records from banks and accountants have no legitimate reason for requesting them. the house has respond it needs the records to conduct oversight investigations and to draft legislation, as well. the court will determine who is right here. the case will also determine whether a new york grand jury may see the president's records

as part of a criminal investigation. joining me now, msnbc analyst danny cevallos. good morning to you. good to see you on this tuesday morning. wow, we're finally coming to a head on this case that we have been following basically since the president entered office back in january of 2017. this could feasibly determine whether a president can escape oversight by congress. what are the particulars here, danny, and which way do you expect it to go? >> if we were taking betts, you would see bet heavily on congress and new york state and against the president. and the reason for that simply is that the president has lost at almost every single level here, at the trial court level and then at the court of appeals level. even though the supreme court will look at these issues of law with fresh eyes, in all likelihood, if you were to be betting, you would be betting against the president.

and the issues are twofold. at least in the first two cases. congress and congressional committees have issued subpoenas to the president's bank and also to his accounting firm. now, the president is arguing that, look, the congress has this broad power to investigate, but it's limited in that it can't perform law enforcement functions. and even if it was not performing a law enforcement function, asking for these records is just not related to my possible legislative purpose. the challenge for the president is that the bar is extraordinarily low. as long as congress can articulate some legislative purpose, not only could it investigate in a sort of criminal matter, it has done so many, many times in the past. now, in this case, ultimately the supreme court is going to have to decide whether or not the president is somehow magically commu magically immune from congress's otherwise very broad investigative power.

>> could a decision like this, danny, change the game for presidents in the future who would eventually have to disclose their financial records before coming into the white house? >> yes. it absolutely could. because as long as congress feels it has some rationale investigative purpose, it can start issuing subpoena wes even if not directly to the president, but to those companies around him that handle his finances, his banks, his acting firms, and that's one of the keys here is that the accounting firm and the bank can't claim, hey, we're part of the presidency, we're part of the executive branch, we have that bubble of immunity. when the branches dispute with each other, when you have the president going up against congress, then you have an issue where you have interbranch disputes. >> i bet this president is going to be watching this decision come down very closely.

danny cevallos, my friend, thank you as always. great to see ow this tuesday morning. still ahead, joe biden's campaign is using president trump's own words against him. we're going to take a look at his new digital ad, slamming the president for his response to the coronavirus outbreak. we're back in a moment. (music) ♪ for people with heart failure taking entresto, it may lead to a world of possibilities. entresto helps improve your heart's ability to pump blood to the body.

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understand. we have an economic crisis because we have a public health crisis. and we have a public health crisis because he refused to action. donald trump didn't build a great economy. his failure to lead destroyed one. >> so the ad will run statewide in places like pennsylvania, wisconsin, north carolina and arizona, as well. meanwhile, the biden camp announcing monday that it had raised 60.5 million in april as the pandemic took hold of the country. president trump narrowly outraised former vice president with 61.7 million. the trump campaigned called the ad's premise abdomen surdz and factually inaccurate, attempt to be relevant by joe biden and said the president has been focused on protecting american safety and the economy as well. with that, let's take a turn and

bring in nbc meteorologist bill karins. bill, good morning to you. good to see you on this tuesday morning. how are we looking today? >> we're going to get complaints. it's been so cold in areas of the northeast that we're going to go straight from winter and jump to summer. we have another morning that is very frigid. 72 million people under freeze or frost advisories. usually it's a day like this, but this is going on four to five days. temperatures right now in the lower 30s in northern michigan. we're at 26 in green bay. we're at 38 as far as south as na asheville, north carolina. so we're still dealing with this arctic air, this storm in upper new england is pulling down that cold air. that will continue for another day or two. but then we're going to go from

that winter to summer thing. by the time we get to the end of this week, we get much warmer. by the time we get to next week, it looks like we could be full out summer heat and humidity, air-conditioners on in the same area that have the heat on this morning. you'll have your air-conditioners blasting been the time we get to next week. as far as temperatures go, this afternoon, still chilly. cold in areas of northern new england. by the time we get to wednesday morning, that's the last cold morning. 86 by the end of the week in areas of virginia. even new york city could be near 80 by the time we get to friday. so, yes, you can say we didn't really have much of a spring. straight to summer next week. >> i'm going to tell you a little secret, bill. whenever you tease for me an extended forecast, i literally cannot wait because i am a very impatient person and i grab my phone and look at the temperature outlook for the next ten days as you take us through the weather. so i'm ahead of you seeing some of the seven-day temperatures here in new york.

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welcome back, everybody. we're going to begin this half hour with the highly anticipated senate hearing on the coronavirus. much of it will be virtual since most of the key players are under self-quarantine. dr. anthony fauci, mr. redfield and steven hahn are self-quarantining. the chairman of the committee will be remote. he is also under self-quarantine after a staffer tested positive for the virus over the weekend. and as far as the subject matter in an email to the "new york times," dr. fauci said he intends to warn the senate against, quote, needless suffering and death if the united states reopens prematurely. the president yesterday defending his handling of the virus among those who work inside the white house. he addressed the positive test of the vice president's press secretary, but not that of his

own personal valet. watch this. >> many americans want to return to their normal lives, but they're afraid to do so. how can you assure americans that it's safe to go to their own workplaces when the most secure place in the country, the white house, cannot contain the spread of the coronavirus that's infected some of your own staff? >> when you say some, so we have a person and the person got -- something happened right after her test was done. three other people met that person, came into very little contact and they're self-quarantining. that is not exactly not controlling it. i think we've controlled it very well. we have hundreds and hundreds of people every day pouring into the white house. it's a massive office complex. so i think we're doing a very good job in watching it and i think it's very well contained, actually. and part of the reason, it is because of all the tests we're able to give but it was one

person and the only people were the people that were quarantined. the reason is they were in the general proximity of the one person and the one person i believe will be fine in a very short period of time. >> the white house's new mask policy went into effect yesterday with a memo, instructing staffers to wear face coverings in the west wing and to avoid visiting there unless they have in. person business. the request does not apply to staffers seated at theiring desks. if they can social distance. and it does not apply to, guess who? the president. who required the new measure. >> why haven't you required everyone at the white house to wear mrafks before now? >> well, if they're a certain distance for me or if they're a certain distance from each other, they do. in the case of me, i'm not close

to anybody. obviously, in my case, i'm very far away from everyone. just about everybody i've seen today has worn a mask. >> are you the one who required that, sir? >> yeah, i did. i did. i required it. >> joining me once again, managing editor of the washington examiner magazine, jake caruso. i don't even know, jay, how to get into this conversation, this next question. this new mask policy at the white house, right? which should have been instituted i think we could argue well before now. that being said, the president himself still refuses to wear a mask despite the fact that his personal valet has been tested positive and the vice president's press secretary has tested positive. >> yes. there is -- if there was -- if america could have one area that could have a pandemic and have a culture war rise from it, we're

the country to do it. i've written about this, the silliness with the masks. and people who are taking cues from the president and saying that if target or costco requires you to wear a mask, it's some kind of abbrigation of their rights. and then you have people yelling at others who are wearing masks outdoors. look, when scientists and, doctors have said it's not really necessary unless you're within a crowd. so it's this kind of silliness where it's become a cultural issue instead of a health issue. look, if costco requires you to wear a mask, put a mask on. if they don't, then fine, but otherwise, it's just like just be safe and don't worry about it. look, i -- typically i wear glasses when i'm outduoors. it's annoying because my glasses fog up and everything, but i'd rather have an annoyance and allow people to feel a little

bit more comfortable and keep myself from getting sick if the person next to me happens to have, you know, walking next to me happens to have the virus and he's wearing a mask and he's keeping it contained within him. so it's not a big deal. a and, of course, the president probably sees the mask as weakness. jay crusoe, you have a friend in the background that you failed to mention. >> yeah. >> i think would like to be mentioned. your little pup. what is his name or her name? >> that's lucky. and he is a -- right now, he's a nervous threat. look at him. he's whining and complaining. he wants to eat. he's like, wrap it up, dad. >> you look so nervous. he looks so nervous. >> funny ears -- >> comfortable. >> yeah. >> so sweet. jay caruso, thank you.

appreciate it. good seeing you this morning. still ahead, everybody, julia ainsley is going to join us live with her reporting on the coronavirus chaos in the southern border. your first look at "morning joe" is back in a moment. for business as usual.

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we were about 10% to 15 perps for this pandemic. we're finally testing the less sick people. as we go throughout today or tomorrow, we'll likely get up to about 10 million people total tested which will be about 3% of our u.s. population. the fatales, a little over a thousand. as far as the new cases went, yesterday was about 18,196. that was the lowest since march 26th. so a lot of the numbers that came in monday, those do show that we're significantly flattening that curve and it's coming down a little bit. looks like we could see a sfu

twisters tomorrow in oklahoma and texas. as covid-19 looms, health care workers and immigration lawyers say the overcrowded and chaotic conditions for migrants stalled at the oougs u.s. border are a public health crisis in the making. julia, good morning to you. great to see you. welcome back, by the way. you recently spoke to one lawyer who hands out masks and hand sanitizer every morning to immigrants lined up at a bridge at the border. as they report for their scheduled asylum hearings. talk us through this, julia. >> that is right. i talked to taylor levy who goes every morning to meet over a hundred immigrants lined up this

morning at this bring trying to get into el paso. they are lined up because think think it's their day to come in for an asylum hearing because many of them don't know that these asylum hearings have been postponed for at least the next month if not well into the future because of u.s. policies. when you add a pandemic to that, it's lead to go a lot of very unsafe conditions and i've talked to health care workers who say they can't get into these shelters in order to provide health care. and it's a public health disaster in the making. both for those who are lined up waiting for their hearings and in these overcrowded shelters where they have to return. >> the shelters are really like a ticking time bomb for coronavirus infection. while most people remain in

mexico do rent, it's probably only about a fourth or a fifth of the people who live in shelters. the largest shelter has over 500 people living in it. it's like a tinder box wait to go erupt if there are infections. many people share a bunk bed. it's very problematic. they share budget beds with their family members. sometimes maybe two family members will share, just depending on what the options are. and there's insufficient medical care for these migrants. we consistently hear migrants are turned away from the hospitals in mexico for all kinds of ailments. with coronavirus, we just think things are going to sxloes. >> so you can see there how this is a disaster wait to go happen,

both because of the pandemic and because of policies that have forgsed immigrants to crowd into these conditions together. and a document from the department of homeland security that we obtained showed the administration expects the numbers of covid infections in mexico to rise over june and july. so it's an area we're going to want to watch. >> this is such an important story, julia. thank you so much for bringing it to us. so many people vulnerable during this time. we're going to be looking for your reporting throughout the day on msnbc. julia, thank you so much. still ahead, everybody, we're going to go live to cnbc for an early look at what is driving the day on wall street. as we go to break, new hope for the return of america's past time. major league baseball owners gave the go ahead yesterday for a proposal to the players union that would start the season around the weekend of july 4th with each team playing an 82-game schedule. following a second spring

training starting in mid-june, the plan includes playing regular season games without fans in home stadiums that have local and state government approval. as well as a geographic schedule in which teams play only in division opponents and interleague opponents from a similar area. the proposal would expand the designated hitter to the national league, expand rosters to around 30 players and double the machine of wildcard team toes create a 14-team playoff. league officials are expected to present the proposal to the union today. we're back in a moment.

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welcome back, everybody. tesla's ceo elon musk says the company is planning to reopen its factory which would be in violation of the state's official orders since it is not an essential business.

juliana, talk us through this what seems to be a stand off between the state and musk. >> it certainly is, yasmin. it's probably the most high profile clash we've seen between a corporate and government. elon musk ratcheting up the pressure yet again. in recent days, he's been very vocal about how he feels about the government mandated shutdowns. in the latest, musk tweeted if anyone is arrested as a result of reopening this factory, i ask that it only be me. so what he is really putting it out there to authorities that he is not only willing to defy the lockdown, but he thinks it's the right thing to do. this follows his comments on saturday that he would be ready to move tesla's factories and headquarters out of california. he called the local shutdown that's taking place there a power grab. and you might remember last month on the tesla earnings call, elon musk again very vocal

about his feelings towards the government calling the shutdown orders fascist. now on the topic of reopening, we have some news on the malls front. simon property group, the biggest u.s. mall owner, plans to have roughly 50% of its malls and outlet stores reopened again within the next week. they've already begun opening some malls. they've employed various measures for safety, reduced capacity, reduced hours, handing out masks to those who want them. surely, this is a move that comes with risks. we'll be anxiously waiting to see how the reopenings unfold. yasmin? >> so in addition to that, the new york fed actually, today, is

going to begin buying corporate bonds. what can you tell us about this? >> that's right. so this is part of a program that the fed announced in april. a series of measures to ensure liquidity for markets. this is part of this new lending program. most of the purchases they've announced that will kick off today will be in funds, exchange-trade ed funds with exposure to u.s. grade corporate bonds. they'll also be buying etfs with u.s. high yield bonds. this is the riskier parts of the debt market. the fed will also soon start purchasing debt directly from companiesbuying etfs, like they're doing today. all of this part of the federal reserve's efforts to support the economy as we all try to weather the storm. back to you. >> cnbc's julianna tatelbaum, live from london. thank you so much. great to see you.

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welcome back, everybody. joining us from washington with a look at axios a.m., national political reporter for "axios," jonathan swan. jonathan, good morning to you. great to see you on this tuesday morning. >> you, too. >> give us "axios'" one big thing today. >> the doctor versus the white house. this testimony today from dr. anthony fauci, the nation's top infectious disease expert, and the most high-profile figure on the president's task force, is going to be extremely, extremely

uncomfortable for some people in the white house. the white house and the president had built this entire week around the messaging proposition that they are encouraging and comforting the public, that it's safe to begin to step out into the world. to slowly reopen the country. their whole week of messaging was built around the idea of convincing and conveying to the public, "we're ready. we have the tests. we have the personal protective equipment. it's okay." you see president trump starting to even more aggressively, publicly chide blue state governors who are keeping their states in lockdown. now, you have anthony fauci, who in an email to the "new york times" says that his primary goal today in his testimony is to convey the dangers of prematurely opening the country. this is going to run headlong

into the white house's messaging. i expect you're going to see a pretty severe reaction from donald trump. >> so i talked to jay caruso about this a little earlier on in this show, but, jonathan, what do you expect the senate to actually do with this information from dr. fauci? >> well, it's less about what they will do and more about the public messaging fight which is going on. of course, the big issue that president trump and his economic advisers have is they want to encourage people to get back to work, to reopen the economy. they're fighting against consumer psychology. consumer psychology at the moment, at least what we're seeing in the polls, is still largely fearful. people are fearful of going back. they don't believe it's safe to return to their ordinary lives. president trump has been trying, through his bully pulpit, to change that psychology, to get

his economy back rolling. to the extent that fauci -- i mean, fauci, the reason they stopped doing -- one of the reasons they stopped doing their daily briefings with the president was, obviously, because it was damaging him politically, and seeing that in the polls, but another reason was -- and senior aides told this to me expolice licitly -- wanted to de-emphasize the messages from people like fauci and emphasize, instead, the messages from economists. they saw it as a pivot point, that we want to hear less -- they want to hear less from the public health officials who they felt were scaring the public -- again, these are their words, not mine -- and more from the economists and the political aides who were going to encourage people to feel optimistic and safe about returning. >> it's interesting, jonathan, the way that you put that. because it's who you want -- who

you want to hear. but when you look at every single poll across the board with regards to who americans trust the most and who they want to hear the most, it is the dr. faucis and the dr. birxs of the world amidst this pandemic. >> yeah, that's absolutely true. to the extent that we have polling, it's the public health experts. even though fauci has become a lightning rod on the rise, with people calling for him to be fired. for the large part, the general public still trusts these public health officials more than they do the politicians. look, we've got some pretty fascinating polling along those lines. we've got this "axios" poll. in the latest version of it, it is quite interesting, only half of americans would participate in a voluntary coronavirus

contact tracie ining program. a big part of this is we have this issue of not trusting the centralized authority, not trusting the government, and not wanting to hand over public health information. but to the extent that people are willing to trust the government, they're much more willing to trust the cdc and the public health officials than they are the politicians and when you put it to the federal government more generally. that kind of gets to the point you were just talking about. to the extent that people are willing to put their data in people's hands, they're much more willing to give it to the likes of dr. fauci and dr. birx than they are the political figures that they see. >> yeah, and you bring up a good point there, as i was going to make. americans do share everything on facebook, on twitter, on instagram, despite all of that. >> it is remarkable, isn't it? >> it is so remarkable. thank you, jonathan.