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we thank you for being here with us. on behalf of all my colleagues at the networks of nbc news, good night from our temporary field headquarters. an ousted vaccine official appears before congress and slams the trump administration. dr. rick bright warned that the u.s. still has no coronavirus plan. also, the cdc unveiled scaled back guidelines for safely reopening the country after the white house held back previous guidance deemed too prescriptive. and gop senator richard burr is stepping down as intelligence committee chair relate to go stock sales he made before coronavirus slammed the markets. . good morning, everybody.
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it is friday, may 15th. just in case you were wondering. we have made it through yet another week amid this pandemic. we're going to begin with the testimony from the former government doctor who says that he lost a key post last month after opposing the president's push to use an unproven drug to treat the coronavirus. rick bright, in charge of the federal agency that develops vaccines, told house lawmakers just yesterday there was no plan at the start of the outbreak and that there is still no plan today. >> our window of opportunity is closing. if we fail to improve our response now based on science, i fear the pandemic will get worse and prolonged. there will be a resurgence this fall. without better planning, 2020 could be the darkest winter in modern history.
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first and foremost, we need to be truthful with the american people. americans deserve the truth. the truth must be based on science. we have the world's greatest scientists. let us lead. let us speak without fear of retribution. our nation was not as prepared as we should have been. as we could have been. some scientists raised early warning signals that were overlooked. and pages from our pandemic play book were ignored by some in leadership. i believe with proper leadership and collaboration across government, with the best science leading the way, we can device a comprehensive strategy. the time is running out because the virus is still spreading everywhere. people are getting restless to leave their homes. >> when you look at the first
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four months of this year, would you describe the administration's response as a success or a failure? >> i believe we could have done better. i think there are critical steps that we did not take in time. >> do you believe if your suggestions were kwleimplemente lives would have been saved and the is severity of the pandemic would have been lessened? >> so people died because you weren't listened to? >> people died because they didn't have appropriate protective equipment to save their lives and protect them from getting infected. >> there was a visit to the cdc on march 6th. at that visit, the administration said anybody who wants a test will get a test. was that true then? >> there still are not enough tests. >> so even this week as we're being told anybody who wants a
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test can have a test, is that true in the united states of america? >> no. >> so president trump also gave his thoughts on testing yesterday. here he is during a speech at a pennsylvania company that distributes medical supplies. >> could be that testing is frankly overrated. maybe it is overrated. but whenever they start yelling we want more, we want more, then we do more and they say we want more. but we have the greatest testing in the world. and don't forget we have more cases than anybody in the world. why? because we do more testing. if we didn't do any testing, we would have very few cases. >> so the cdc yesterday released previously withheld guidance documents on reopening american
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institutions, which appeared to be less detailed than the draft recommendation sent to the white house for review last month. the new cdc guidelines if contain guidance to help businesses reopen safely. the associated press reported last week that the white house previously shelved cdc provided recommendations for safely reopening. u.s. unemployment claims have now spent eight straight weeks in the millions, now totalling upwards of $36 million after -- 36 million people, excuse me, after yesterday. the department of labor announced yesterday that another nearly 3 million people applied for jobless claims last week. the amount of claims has been on a steady decline as parts of the
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country continue to reopen, but the number of people receiving ongoing benefits is still 22.8 million. and sxomething to note here, yesterday the department of labor explained via twitter that the numbers were off by over 260,000 and should be much lower at just under 30,000. claims. a major discrepancy there, to say the least. joining me now, peggy collins. peggy, good morning to you. what a brutal stretch we have had for unemployment numbers. so give us the big picture here, peggy. where to things stand right now? and do you see any bright spots
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on the horizon? >> the numbers do keep going up. we saw almost another 3 million yesterday. and one of the bright spots that you're seeing is we're starting to look at the numbers related to continuing claims. so those are people who are not only initially filing for their first week of unemployment benefits, but continue to go file. so those numbers are very high. that might be a sign that some small businesses that have gotten loans may be rehiring people. that is an area we're looking at closely going forward. >> so as small businesses begin to rehire people, as states begin to reopen, getting back to work, folks are able to get up and go to work, possibility that could lower that number, as well. so as we talk about reopening, are there any specific states we
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are paying attention to? >> california and connecticut. in the data that came out yesterday, their numbers were unusually high in a couple of ways. later in the day, connecticut corrected its number of jobless claims. that was inflating the national figure somewhat. so that was good news in terms of the numbers looking extremely high in connecticut in terms of the initial jobless claims with that number being revised downward. and the states have had a lot of trouble consuming the volume of claims that have been processed or had to be processed. so that is another area that we have been watching and trying to capture in our reporting. >> peggy collins, thank you, as always. stay close. i will talk to you again in just a little bit. still ahead, everybody, the fbi seizing the cell phone of senator richard burr in an investigation into stock sales. but he may not be the only lawmaker facing scrutiny.
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welcome back, everybody. republican senator richard burr announced that he is temporarily stepping down as chairman of the senate intel committee after fbi agents seized his cell phone as part of an investigation into whether he sold thousands of stocks using inside information from his role on that committee. burr wihas said he based that decision on publicly available information. a senior justice department official told nbc news that the move was approved at the highest levels of the justice department, meaning ag bill barr signed off on them.
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the warrant was served on burr's attorney, but the phone was picked up at the senator's home. investigators also obtained a search warrant to obtain data in burr's icloud storage for his iphone. the move represents a significant escalation in the inquiry. as the "new york times" is noting, suggests burr may be in serious legal jeopardy. the north carolina senator has denied any wrongdoing and announced in a statement that he is stepping down as chairman of the senate intel committee until the investigation is complete, writing in part this, quote, the work the intelligence committee and its members do is too important to risk hindering in any way. i believe this step is necessary to allow the committee to continue its essential work free of external distractions. also, stock trades made by other senators are also under
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scrutiny. disclosure records obtained by the "new york times" are showing that the three senators sold major holdings around the same time as senator burr. all three deny doing anything wrong. the times reports that senator feinstein back in april was asked, quote, basic questions by law enforcement officials about the stock transactions made by her and her husband. feinstein's spokesperson acknowledged that she provided documents to the fbi. and a spokesperson for neither lawfler declined to say that she had been contacted by the fbi. and that she has forwarded documents to the doj, to the s.e.c. and the senate ethics committee establishing that she and her husband acted entirely appropriately and observed both
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the letter and the spirit of the law. senator lawfler's husband has to be head of the new york stock exchange. thanks for getting up with us this morning, danny. some major developments, to say the least. what do you make of this unprecedented nature of the attorney general getting involved here basically signing off on an fbi warrant for a sitting senator inspect how significant is this? >> investigating members of congress for insider trading is somewhat precedented. the debate clause of the institution generally protects members of congress from being intimidated by the executive branch for things they say or do in congress. whether or not that extends to a search for someone's personal cell phone, the federal court last year held that it doesn't
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extend to protect personal electronic devices and things like that. so in all likelihood, this is something that would that will be upheld if taken to court. so this is something that has happened before. the challenge is figuring out the extend of this future debate clause. to what degree are members of congress to be protected for things they do as members of congress? and that is the key here. was this something done strictly in the work of congress or did some of these senators obtain information as senators or members of congress and then go out and trade on that such that it doesn't get coverage by this future debate clause, they don't have any privilege to do that. >> so let's talk about some of the other senators that could feasibly looked at here. they are claiming between feinstein and lawfler, claiming
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having outside advisers handling their stock decisions here. what comes into play here to prove a notion like that, especially when you look at the intelligence reports and the reporting from that lining up with the fact that they were hearing of this pandemic and that is when it seems as if timingwise the trades had gone down. >> first, insider trading is hard to prove with regular folks. but the whole reason to get involved in the stock market is because you think you know something that someone else doesn't know. then the argument comes up that almost anything that filters into congress as a public body is by definition public information and doesn't meet the standards of insider trading.
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but insider trading is a very complicated area of the law. so members of congress and the like often have a defense to any charge. still ahead, everybody, the president calls on congress to have former president obama testify about the russia probe. but at least one top republican says that's not going to happen. we're back in a moment. s not go. we're back in a moment yeah, they help us with achievable steps along the way... ...so we can spend a bit now, knowing we're prepared for the future. surprise! we renovated the guest room, so you can live with us. oooh, well... i'm good at my condo. oh. i love her condo. nana throws the best parties. well planned, well invested, well protected. voya. be confident to and through retirement.
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welcome back, everybody. president trump has ramped up his attacks on barack obama and now he's calling on congress to have him testify. trump has accused obama of illegally targeting his associates in what he has dubbed obamagate. there is no hard evidence to support this claim. he tweeted yesterday, quote, if i were a senator or a congressman, the first person i
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would skaul to testify about the biggest political crime and scandal in the history of the usa by far, a former president obama. no more talk. >> it was the greatest political crime in the history of our country. and i was a democrat instead of a ri a republican, i think everybody would have been in jail a long time ago and i'm talking with 50-year sentences. it is a disgrace what's happened. this is the greatest political scam, hoax in the history of our country. >> and lindsey graham has rejected the president's call to testify. here is what he told reporters yesterday. i think it would be a bad precedent to compel a former president to come before the congress. that would open up a can of
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worms. for a variety of reasons, i don't think that's a good idea. >> okay. let's switch gears here and bring in nbc meteorologist bill karins. good morning, bill. good to see you today. >> good morning. happy friday. we've had flooding in new orleans, chicago with flash flooding, a lot of wind damage and power outages in illinois and missouri. today will be a dangerous day. we have severe weather in the northeast and a tropical storm forming just off the coastline of south florida. but first off with the severe weather, severe storms rolling through central this morning. and also down in southern louisiana. later on this afternoon, we usually this time of year get threats. what is different is this severe weather threat will be the latest in new york, new hampshire, we may see tornados
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this afternoon in areas that don't typically get a lot of severe weather. as we go throughout the evening, we'll see that second area of severe weather from oklahoma city and those storms will be arriving in ♪, waco and dallas after dark tonight. the heaviest rainfall will be today. 70% chance. the hurricane hunter aircrafts will be flying into this to give us the official word today. but regardless, it will be moving away from florida as we go throughout the weekend. but things will be improving saturday and sunday. we may see 2 to 3 inches of rain, but it won't cause too many problems. your weekend forecast coming up next half hour. still ahead, how the trump administration is respond to go dr. rick bright's testimony before congress. also, the white house reportedly thinking about making
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a deal with democrats to provide more aid to states feeling the pinch from coronavirus. let's just say it's more than a pinch at this point. those stories and more, coming up next. up next.
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welcome back, everybody. we're going to begin this half hour with the testimony from dr. rick bright. he told members of congress yesterday that the administration's timeline for a coronavirus vaccine is likely too optimistic and that there is
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no plan to mass produce and distribute one. bright said he warned the administration about shortages of personal protective equipment and faltered the president and senior officials for having minimized the outbreak early on. responding to the testimony, alex azar said bright's information was outdated. while trump characterized bright as a disgruntled employee. dr. bright is up there testifying today. everything he's complaining about was achieved. everything he talked about was done. he says he talked about the need for respirators. we procured respirators under the president's direction. he said we need a manhattan project for vaccines. this president initiates a vaccine manhattan project, diagnostic manhattan project. therapeutic manhattan project.
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oh, and by the way, whose job was it to actually lead the development of vaccines? dr. bright. so while we're launching operation warp speed, he's not showing up for work to be part of that. >> i watched this guy for a little while this morning. to me, he's nothing more than a really disgruntle unhappy person. and i'm not just talking about alex, because alex said it strongly, but there are a lot of people who do not like the job he did. i don't know him. i never met him. i don't want to meet him. but i watched him and he looks like an angry disgruntled employee who frankly, according to some people, didn't do a good job. dr. bright did say he has hypertension according to his doctor because of the stress of bees removed from his position and it is one of the reasons why he is currently on medical leave, it seems. so the white house is considering strike ago
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bipartisan deal with democrats to provide billions in aid in states despite president trump's hesitation. striking a deal with democrats is likely to anger republicans who have warned of democratic blue state bailouts. but two white house officials have made it clear that trump is not willing to provide a blank check to states and is merely, quote, open to negotiations. the white house officials further noted that they assured republicans the furndz will only be used for pandemic related purposes. let's get into this with peggy collins. good to see you again, peggy. the house, as we had talked about this week, expected to vote today on that $3 trillion coronavirus relief package which
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republicans have already said is essentially dead on arrival in the senate. but with regard to that $3 trillion aid package, what are you hearing about this proposed second round and how it could really help americans here that needs that money, the small businesses that need that money, the states especially as we've heard from new york governor andrew cuomo needing that money in this recovery. >> so the next front in this battle in terms of dashaddition stimulus is around states and the additional money they're going to need because of the pressure of their budgets. they've been on the front lines of trying to fight the coronavirus as well as losing a lot of revenue from things like public transportation even. and then the second big area is unemployment benefits. so a lot of people are getting an additional $600 that was passed in the original stimulus bill on a weekly basis. that money is expected to expire on july 31st. so this extends that money into
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later this year or even as late as january. so this is another battle between the lawmakers in congress about whether they can extend that money. >> the president is making some bold economic predictions when it comes to a rebound. basically saying it is going to be a very strong economic rebound and he cites pent up demand. what are you hearing from economists with regard to a rebound amid this shutdown? >> many economists have moved off this idea of what they were calling a v-shaped recovery where we would have a quick bounceback. and one of the reasons for that is the overall scarring effects of this virus for not only people that have already lost their jobs, but for people who are saving more already now with the expectation that maybe this
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downturn could go on longer or maybe they could lose their job or there will be other effects in the economy that they will need to save for down the road. more and more economists are expecting a slower recovery as people get back online, as businesses start to reopen, but also as people are conservative with their own health. >> great to see you this morning. thank you. still ahead, everybody, we are with going to get a hive report from battleground pennsylvania where what appears to be a partisan split has some counties resisting the governor's stay-at-home orders. your first look at "morning joe" is back in a moment. e" is back in a moment. (j.k. vo) if you're off the roads for all of us,
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through the roof. we have to get your governor of pennsylvania to start opening up a little bit. you have areas of pennsylvania that are barely affected and they want to keep them closed. you can't do that. so president trump there during his visit to allentown, pennsylvania, yesterday telling a crowded medical equipment plant that they should urge their democratic governor to open the entire state. pennsylvania governor tom wolf has issued a stay-at-home order until june 4th but partly lifted restrictions across some states. officials say they will defy the governor and reopen today leaving local businesses scrambling for guidance as to how to actually do that. joining me now, dasha burns. good morning to you. what is going on in beaver county? talk us through this and how are officials trying to control
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this? what are they telling local businesses there? >> so the reason beaver was held back from reopening is largely because of an outbreak at a local long-term care facility. local officials say they don't think it's fair to hold back and let the economy suffer because of one building. they told me they don't think the governor understands what is going on here and frankly, they've taken matters into their own hands. they've told businesses here that they want to go ahead and move from that most restricted red phase and into the yellow phase of reopening like the rest of the surrounding counties, they can go ahead and do that and they won't seek consequences, at least not from the county level. i spoke to a county commissioner about that move. take a listen to what he said. >> i was pretty disappointed with the governor's response and his explanation. i think he knows that was a bad decision now. but i think he's painted himself
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into a corner. we have an oath and a duty to protect the health, safety, emotional and economic well being of our residents. and i can't look them in the eye and say we're doing that to the best of our ability while he keeps us locked down in the red. >> so, dasha, this puts small businesses in a pretty tough spot, right? making this decision on their own. so which rules do they follow, state rules here or county rules? >> well, they have pretty confused is scared, frankly. they're going to have to make that decision either overnight or this morning. the governor has threatened counties with withholding funding, but he's threatened businesses with licensing sanctions. so they don't know what to do or who to listen to. they desperately want to reopen, but they don't want to see some of those consequences the governor talked about.
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i want to introduce you to one local businesswoman, christina stanton. >> it's very much a confusing time. i don't think any business owner knows what to do. people are going to start going to small counties and support can small businesses in other counties, which is great, but that leaves us high and dry. >> she talked about the frustration of seeing some of the big box stores stay open and seeing the crowds there. she said, yasmin, that the small businesses are the ones that are getting the short end of the stick here, yasmin. >> as a small business owner, i'm sure that can be incredibly frustrating to see. nbc's dasha burns. thank you so much. appreciate it. we want to check back in with bill karins looking at that weekend forecast for us. hi, bill. >> good morning once again.
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the weekend forecast will be very active. we're going to update you on the national numbers. yesterday as far as the fatality curb went, we added another 1,715 fatalities. monday or tuesday next week, it should hit 90,000. and we are roughly 10,000 away from the 100,000 deaths. this week, we have more cases in illinois than we have in new york. you could make a good case right now that the new hot spot in the untrys in the state of illinois. as far as the forecast for the upcoming weekend, we have some active weather, some severe storms, some heavy rain from the tropical system down in areas of south florida. and then as we head to the
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weekends, that severe storm threat will be into texas and arkansas, heavy rain through the midwest. and then on sunday, the east coast holds on to one more nice day, but all that heavy rain is lingering from the great lakes all the way through the ohio valley and still some flooding problems in areas of louisiana. going back to the state by state numbers, keep an eye on illinois. they had 4,000 cases and then 3,000 yesterday. >> i still think back to the time when we were in the studio with ayman and we were looking at the numbers and we were just at a couple thousand. i don't think any of us could have imagined that we would get to this point where we are now approaching 100,000 deaths. it is unbelievable, to say the least. thank you, bill. still ahead, we're going to
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welcome back, everybody. another 3 million jobs were lost
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last week bringing the staggering total of unemployment to 33.5 million. juliana, good morning to you. great to see you this morning. talk us through the latest from the department of labor on this one. we just take a look and hear about these staggering numbers when it comes to unemployment claims. >> so the latest numbers are slightly higher than the economists were expecting. it marks the eighth straight week that numbers have come in in the millions. millions of americans every week filing for new unemployment benefits. but it is a continuation of a downward trend. since mid march when the number of new unemployment claims peaked, we have seen the number coming down each week. a couple of reasons potentially for this, fist time applications may be tapering off after two months now of business closures. also some states may be now working through the backlogs of new filings, given that a lot of these numbers were antiquated and they couldn't deal with the
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massive influx of new claims since the lockdowns came into effect. putting it altogether, we are looking at an unemployment rate of just under 15%, so staggering numbers, as you said. on the retail front, some staggering news out of jcpenney. they will be filing for bankruptcy eminently. final negotiations are taking place between the retailer and its lenders. we could see them close up to 200 stores while in before us. they are planning to file for bankruptcy in corpus christi, texas. let's briefly talk here about the stimulus bill. we touched on it for a moment with peggy collins earlier in the show. republicans are not necessarily on board with this. they're essentially saying it is dead on arrival. the white house, though, now saying they're interested possibly in at least one aspect of this stimulus bill.
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>> so according to our sources, the white house is likely to support another round of stimulus checks. the first stimulus bill included payments$1,200 per individual. according to cnbc sources, the white house would support more stimulus in that form. as you say, the broader bill certainly looking like a struggle in washington. given the economic backdrop, the labor market backdrop we talked about, clearly, there's more need for support for the millions of americans who remain unemployed at this point. back to you. >> cnbc's julianna tatelbaum, live from london for us, thank you. good the see you. up next, a look at axios' one big thing. more from the testimony of ousted official rick bright, who warns the u.s. lacks a coordinated plan to deal with the pandemic. also, with graduation ceremonies canceled across the country, we're going to get a
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preview of tomorrow's virtual event, honoring america's class of 2020, that will feature a keynote address from former president barack obama. "morning joe" is moments away.
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welcome back, everybody. joining me now with a look at axios a.m., co-founder and ceo of axios, jim vandehei. good morning to you. good to see you. >> good morning. good to see you. >> talk to us about axios' one big thing today. >> we're looking at the reopening experiment in my home state of wisconsin, where you had the state supreme court basically overrule the governor and say all these restrictions, at least temporarily, are thrown out. what you had were a big patchwork. you had some bars, some restaurants open for business. you see a lot of these photos online, of people packed inside bars, doing shots, going in to restaurants. this is sort of a sped up version of what you're seeing happen in other states. we'll have a rolling experiment in real time before our eyes
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about what are the consequences of that? how many businesses actually decide to reopen? how many customers, how many consumers decided they want to go out, they want to not listen to some of the health experts, and they might want to take a risk to get a drink, go to eat, get their hair done. they're talking about theaters potentially being open in june. will they go out and see a movie? there, georgia, florida, we'll see pretty quickly if there are consequences for it. it's up for debate. we don't know. in florida and georgia, we had data showing the number of cases went down when they reopened. that was only for a one-week snapshot. now, we'll get a pretty clear, full portrait. >> let's talk about the consequences that we could feasibly see come 2020, come the november elections. axios reporting you have small businesses, particularly in swing states, as you just mentioned, being hard hit as a result of this pandemic. will we see that reverberate
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come 2020, come november 2020, shall i say? >> you're seeing small businesses getting hit everywhere, but many times in swing states, places like michigan and florida at the top of the list of states getting hit hardest. what i think people don't realize is there seems to be an assumption sometimes by looking at the market, that these jobs that are going away will come back. almost anybody who studies these or talks to small businesses knows there are millions and millions of people who work for small businesses, that they're not going to have their job. those businesses are going out of business, and they're not coming back. that, of course, will have political consequences. it means you have high unemployment heading into the election. it means you have lower growth heading into the election. it means you have fewer consumers spending money. there's reports out now , you know, from china, which got back to work quicker than we have that, yes, you're seeing a little growth, but you're also seeing consumers just not spending money the way they used to.
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it has economic consequences. i think what you're seeing is, anybody who is studying the numbers, talking to business leaders, realizes there is no quick fix. this is going to be years before you truly get back on track. i saw the boeing ceo said that it could be five years before airlines are back to full capacity. you might lose an airline come this fall. real, big consequences for every part of the economy. i think that's why the conversation we're having today, you're going to be having another version of this in september, october, november, about what's working, what's not working, what do we know about the virus, what do we know about the economic consequences? i think the one thing we now know is this is much longer, and it'll hit many more parts of our life than any of us hoped for. if you roll back the camera to, say, february. >> it's such a good point that you make. as we talk about this economic rebound and what's going to happen and when it is actually going to happen, what we mised oftentimes in that conversation
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is the fear factor, as you mention. yes, a small business may open its doors, but whether or not consumers will actually leave their homes and buy at that small business, not only because they are scared of possibly getting the coronavirus, but they're worried about their own economic future and wanting to save money versus spend money. they don't know what's going to happen with their jobs in the future, if, in fact, they're lucky enough to have a job at that point. axios is reporting some iowa swing voters is believing trump should see the pandemic all the way through, making it more difficult, subsequently, for joe biden to win over some of the voters. talk us through this. >> yeah, we try to check in every month with 12 or so voters who voted for president obama and then voted for president trump, swing voters by definition, to get their views in iowa. most of them feel like all they really care about is what's happening locally. they're still supportive of trump being the leader and having continuity in terms of
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the leadership through this crisis. again, it is a small snapshot, one state, 12 people. i think what it shows is most people are paying attention to what's happening in their town, what's happening in their house, what's happening in their state. all this other is just noise. it is interesting. it is politics. they're just trying to survive. they're trying to figure out, how do i adapt? how do i do the right thing? it is not a partisan thing. you see it both sides, republicans, democrats, a lot of them are making good decisions and being better neighbors and are being super duper responsible. >> keep their food on the table. keep their family safe. jim vandehei, thank you so much. i'll be reading axios am in a little while. sign up at signup.axios.com. that does it for me on this friday morning. i'm yasmin vossoughian. "morning joe" starts right now. when you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple days will be down close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done. >> that was how president trump
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defined success back in february. as "politico" notes, there is now a different definition of accomplishment. to quote senator lindsey graham, the closer you can have it to 120,000 deaths, i think you can say you limited the casualties in this war. we're close to 90,000 to this day. good morning and welcome to "morning joe." it is friday, may 15th. joe will be back on monday. with willie and me this morning, we have the co-founder and ceo of axios, jim vandehei. former chief of staff at the cio and department of defense, nbc news national security analyst jeremy bash is with us. columnist and associate editor for the "washington post," david ignatius is with us this morning. good to have you all. we have a lot to get to this morning. an ousted vaccine official appears before congress and slams the trump administration's response to the coronavirus. dr. rick bright warned that the u.s. sti

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