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down the stroo eeet, i'd probab just keep walking. i don't have anything to say to him except for i'm innocent. i told him i was. >> that's all for this episode of "dateline." i'm craig melvin. iffirst up on msnbc, the administration's efforts to create a coronavirus vaccine by the end of the user. this morning, though, the reality check. as more states reopen, business as usual is anything but. at the pennsylvania state capital, not much social distancing by protesters, but the political distance could not be wider. >> staggered reopening. a broad look this morning at parts of the country slowly trying to get back to normal as some bars, restaurants and salons reopen. >> back to the beach.
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some important news for those heading to the shore for the coming holiday weekend. >> and how dogs might go a long way in helping to stop the spread of the coronavirus, next. >> good morning. it is saturday, may 16th. >> take a look live outside. this is san francisco. beautiful there at 3:01 in the morning. it looks pretty much like it did at midnight. the city, by the way, is giving most retailers the green light to reopen on monday, but stores are limited to curbside sales. >> we want to get to the facts at this hour. overnight, the house passed a $3 trillion coronavirus relief package. that includes another round of stimulus payments for americans. but it's unlikely to become law. the president this week calling it dead on arrival.
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>> so this weekend, more states across the country are opening for business. this is a water park in mesa, arizona. have you been to mesa? >> i've been there. sent many summers at their wave pool. >> this pool? >> yes. >> the popular spots in arizona on a hot day. it opened up this weekend while gle gle implementing new restrictions. also, house of worship and retailers will open. the president's south florida mar-a-lago club will partially reopen its restaurant and pools for the first time in a the few months and members will have to bring their own ytowel. >> and arizona is seeing high temperatures in the hundreds, so
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many people are happy pools are reopening. but beaches alongside the coast of new jersey, new york, clarify, they're all set to open in time for the weekend. but each of the beaches will have limitations and social distancing will be enforced. >> over at the white house, president trump is doubling down on his initiative to have a covid-19 vaccine available by the end of the year. most experts, however, expressing skepticism with this timeline telling nbc news anything less than 12 to 18 months would be a miracle. >> this morning, there are 1.4 million confirmed cases of coronavirus across the country. more than 88,000 people have died. >> but we do want to begin with breaking news. while you were asleep, something irnlg major took place at the administration. the president firing a critical watchdog. monica alba is live at the white
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house following these developments. it happened late at night on a friday before. what is this before? >> this isn't the first saturday morning where we're discussing a late night action by the president to remove an inspector general. steven lynnic. he had been appointed in the obama administration and had been looking into issues at the state department for the better part of the last seven users. this removal comes, we are told, by sources on capitol hill as there were questions and potential investigations that mr. lynnic had opened up into secretary of state mike pompeo. i want to read you a imt sta from elliott who says this firing is the jo out rageus act of a president trying to protect one of his most loyal supporters, the secretary of state, from accountability. mr. linick's firing amid such a
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time is jo ooutrageous. this follows several moves 230r9 president. we saw that just last month with the watchdog of the intelligence community and he notified congress in a letter jo every night. we have yet to hear more from the white house about why they specified this. but in that letter, the president did state he no longer has confidence in mr. lynnic. >> it is a busy morning. first, the president shutting down the democrats' relief package. second, the president's aggressive vaccine timeline. bring us up to speed on everything that is happening. >> democrats overnight passing that $3 trillion package which has little hope of becoming law because republicans opposed it and the president said if it
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ever reached his desk, he was veto it. but it's sort of an investigation as we continue to see what the next phase might be. this is the democrats' opening hand to see this is what we want to discuss going forward. in that you see $1 trillion that would go to states. that was one of the sticking points. there is also there potential more stimulus checks for americans. but top white house ishls to say they want to wait and see as the next round comes around. negotiations continue between the hill and the white house in the coming weeks. and all of this as yesterday the president unveiled the top ishls to of what he dubbed operation warp speed. that is this vaccine effort where he has been optimistic. while many health experts say
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that is cautiously optimistic. we've heard dr. fauci talk more about a 12 to 18-month timeline. but take a listen to what the president had to say, if there incident is a vaccine, this virus may go away on its own. this is a new version of that. take a listen. there's never been a vaccine project anywhere in history like this. and i just want to make something clooer. it's really important. vaccine or no vaccine, we're back. we think we're going to have a vaccine in the pretty near future. if we do, we're going to be a big step ahead. and if we don't, we're going to be like so many other cases where you had a problem come in. it will go away at some point. >> the president there sending a mess edge a at that time country is back open for business. that has been the main pivot for the last couple of weeks. and this weekend, he will be spending it at camp david with
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some of his closest republican allies in congress. there are no coronavirus task force meetings or any kind on the schedule. >> monica alba at the white house. it has been a busy early saturday morning. you think that. >> and the world health organization saying the virus may never go away. now to the latest in new york where hospitalizations are down, but the number of new cases is up. the state is now reporting nearly 356,000 coronavirus cases and nearly 29,000 deaths. >> but parts of new york are now reeligible to open for business. five regions moving into phase one after meeting four of the governor's seven benchmarks. corey kaufman is joining us now from times square. it is still a city on lockdown. look at that. this is the above shot. not even the naked cowboy or
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elmo. what does phase one look like for some regions? >> hey, guys, yeah, good morning to you. just as bright here in times square. i can almost guarantee you the naked cowboy will show up later today because the weather is supposed to be gorgeous. but let's switch gears and talk about that opening. so phase one includes construction, manufacturing, agriculture and parts of retail that is for pick up only. so this is all stuff that can be lowific are as the governor describes it. and he says that businesses, of course, have to adhere to the guidelines s guidelines as far as wearing masks, social distancing. the parts of the state that don't qualify, the new york pause orders have been extended to may 28th. he talked about that yesterday as far as how they made that decision and which ones qualify
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versus which ones are working on this progress. take a listen. >> they are the regions that meet the numerical criteria. there is no politics to this judgment. there's no arbitrary nature to this judgment. it's all on the numbers. 7 criteria, whichific baly measure the infection rate, hospitalization rate, hospital testing rate, etcetera and that is how the decision is made for those regions that don't qualify to open today. we're extending what is called the new york pause order which is the closing down of services and institutions that have been closed down. if a region hits its everyone about mark at any time, regardless of the pause order, then that region can open. >> so it is difficult to hit that because as you guys mentioned at the top here of this, the number of cases has
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upticked slightly. it's going to be some time here in new york city they're closing down and reikts centering mostr. and you guys enmentioned the fa that in the tri state, beaches will be open for the weekend. people are going to have to be very image have lent in vigilant. hair will be in phase two, restaurants in phase three and education in phase four. >> and it's impossible to walk around and not see an increased police presence. it was beautiful this week and i ventured outside, you saw police officers at every entrance and exit of these parks. >> and some of them giving out
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masks in some cases. >> yep. good to see you, corey. joining us right now is danielle ompad. first i want to get your thoughts on the whole thing the president has been saying and was saying again yesterday, that hundreds of millions of doses of covid-19 could be available at the end of the user. the facts are what? >> so it is in the realm of possibility, but highly doubtful. the process for developing and testing a vaccine actually takes, like dr. fauci says, between 12 and 18 months if we're lucky. so we're not there yet. and it's unclear how long this is going to take.
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we talk about people going outside, pleases are reopening, but even in places where these shelter at home orders still exist, people might be getting stir crazy. and there's a new gaellup poll shows 58% of americans are isolating themselves. but that's down from 78% who said they were at the end of march. so this includes states that haven't lifted lockdowns. does that concern you? >> it does a little bit. each community's epidemic curve looks a little bit irchbt did. it does makes sense to be out and about and not necessarily self-isolating at the same levels where we have a lot of cases.
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on the other hand, it's still important, if things continue to open up, to still continue social distancing and wearing masks. >> one of our contributors says he believes he go the coronavirus through his eyes. this is somebody who knows exactly what to do, takes every precaution. is the goggle, the eye protection, the new mask? you know, i am not sure if that is where we noo ed to be right now, but it wouldn't hurt if that is something people are earned can about. again, it's important to maintain social distancing. so the farther you have away from each other, the less likely you are to either contract the virus or spread the virus. even if we're talking about drob lets that land on your eyes.
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>> just two months ago, we were talking and they were saying the masks incident did make a inches did at all. there is a new studsy that shows talking can launch drop let me tells so small, they can remain suspended in the air for 8 to 14 incidence in. what does this tell you about how the virus transmits from person to person? >> so this is why we social distance. we noo you that it was going to be distributed via social distance. we know people expire droplets when they're speaking. even if you are not showing symptoms, it's obviously going to be possible to transmit.
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so the combination -- >> danielle, really quickly, because i was thinking about this yesterday as i went out for a run. but i was running past people who incident did have masks and i was wonder background the sort of drop lets that they were putting out there and that i may have been receiving. are you giving more at that point? >> it's possible. think about the force with which you're breathing and expiring air. well, at least when i run, there's a lot of panting and red face. so i can imagine the force with which you are expelling air is going to increase the likelihood that you're going to be spreading drop lets.
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some breaking news right now, hurricane hunters will into i into the system off south florida this morning. it is likely to strengthen into a tropical depression or even a tropical storm even at this early imastage. it's expected to move over the ocean east of the carolinas. >> rough surf and rip urgent cans are possible next week into the coast. experts are predicting an above normal activity in the atlantic this hurricane season.
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it i shall toly begins june 1st. as kendis said, 2020. and we are counting down to today's space force mission, weather ermpermitting, of cours. it's carrying five irmt experimental pay loads. >> in the meantime, military ishls officials unfailed the official space flag for the space force. even like unveiling the flag didn't go off without a hitch. as they were unveiling it, parts of it broke. this is part of trump's plan to protect u.s. assets in space. we'll have a live report with exclusive access to the launchpad coming up in the next
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hour. the debate over whether president trump should release his tax returns has now reached the supreme court. >> the subpoenas at issue here are unprecedented in every sense. before these cases, no court had ever upheld the use of congress's subpoena power to demand the personal records of a sitting president. >> counsel, in so many of these prior cases, there were a cooperation. for example, tax returns. every president voluntarily under the over his tax returns. so it gets to be a pitch battle here because president trump is the first one to refuse to do that. >> well, joining us now, msnbc legal analyst danny cevallos. what were the biggest takeaways for you? >> these were two very irchbt
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did issues before the supreme court but consolidated into one big kind of case. on the other hand, you have the independence between the different branches of our government. on the other hand, you have the issue of the supremacy of the executive branch, the federal go ft government over a state grand jury. but at the core, this is about whether or not you can obtain documents not directly from the president himself, but from entities around him, his accounting firm, his personal bank, others places that have his personal report. and if i were a betting person, i might think the supreme court is leaning towards striking down congress's efforts to obtain his personal records. and then on the new jersey georgia case, it appears likely that the court will uphold the
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new york grand jury subpoena. if they go to congress, it's likely we'll eventually see them. but if a grand jury obtains those tax records, it's likely likely we may never see them because of the skroo etsy of grand jury proceedings. >> and do you say they might strike down the congressional requests because the congressional lawyer was so bad at presenting the case or is it just a weak case? >> no, that is one theory that i've read, too, is that the answer to the question, mr. attorney, can you think of any situation where congress would overstep its bounds in seeking records from a president? and the answer was i can't think of one. i wouldn't call that a bungle.
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on one hand, he couldn't think of one. but on the other hand, maybe he wasn't prepared on behalf of the house of representatives to state a situation and limit the house's investigative power. because the house wants to take the position that their investigative power is so broad that they can seek issues on any item they may have. if the supreme court is going to limit it, let them do so. but on the broader issue of whether congress can always obtain personal records of the president, justice ginsburg was right, that in the past, attorneys have worked it out. and she laid some of the blame on the president. but on the other hand, you could say some of the blame lays with the house for not reaching a compromise with the president. but it is unquestioningly both sides not gra heing that guess
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the. bottom of the hour. the number of people getting covid-19 continues to rise. more than 1.6 million isht pas have recovered worldwide. in europe, italy will reportedly begin allowing people to travel to and from other countries. this is going to start june 3rd. you'll remember italy was the ifrt if european nation to impose a lockdown in march. it's now started loosening restrictions. shops and restaurants are all preparing to open next week.
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and back in the u.s., florida governor ron desantis is taking steps to start reopening amusement parks. he asked them to submit plans and the mans would noo ed to be approved before moving forward. >> my go el in all this is let's keep safety first, but let's innovate and work to get to yes on this stuff. i think we need to say, come up with your plan, show us what you've got, work with your local officials and we'll see what we can do. over in mississippi, casinos will continue to reopen next week with new safety guidelines. they're required to meet a 50% occupancy rate. they'll screen guests, sanitize high touch areas and make sure employees are wearing masks. some are adding plexiglass to tables to try and separate gamblers. new and alarming rrts on how
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countries are using harsh and humiliating tactics. >> many of them caught on camera. our new correspondent from the nbc news verification unit is live for us in london with what he found. ifrt if up, welcome to nbc. some of the video you're going to show us, viewers might find it disturbing. what kind of extreme measures are countries using? >> good morning, kendis and incidence willsy. thank y incidence willsy. it's gra et to be with you. the governor warned the pandemic should not be an excuse. unfortunately our team at the nbc news verification center have found ervel is examples of authorities doing just that. we started our investigation in the philippines where we came across this disturbing image.
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it shows several grown men locked in a cage. we found a teen image aer locked in a glass face coffin. what is striking here is the police are making no effort at all to hide what they're doing. in fact, they posted these images on social media themselves. we contacted the individual who posted the picture of the cage we asked him, why did you do this? he responded with a thumbs up emoji. we went to paraguay. we found footage of this young man out after dark, out after curfew. and you can see the police are using a taser to threaten him. we found footage of police on motorcycles who they say were finding people out after dark.
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finally, in kenya, there reportedly 20 people have been killed so far in clashes with police officers who were enforcing lockdown curfews. and what is disturbing is doctors there told us that they were being singled out at checkpoints pore being doctors. so at a time when doctors are needed more than ever, they say they're being deliberately targeted by security forces. >> thank you for that reporting for inge beforing that to our attention live in london. graduation ceremonies are going to look different this year thanks to covid-19 from drooive throughs to virsal commencements. schools, celebrities and students are getting creative with how they celebrate. >> dasha urns about has more on how the class of 2020 is trying to celebrate the day that should
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be one of the biggest of their lives. >> no. caps, no gowns, no good-byes. >> i feel like, did i gra out? like the requiredal feels missing. >> as campuses across the country close, colleges scramble to figure out what to do about gra graduation. >> congratulations. >> arizona state go tt creative with their ceremony. and some students are taking matters into their own hands. >> warren mess edge aed me at one night, like what if we did this? and i was like, yes, let's do it. posted it on facebook and it took off from there. rudy and robbie built quarantine university on minecraft where they'll hold a minutesment
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ceremony for 1400 seniors. >> what if we got everyone together who had their commencements canceled and put them on to mine craft. >> when it's their time, we'll bring them to the stage and they can walk, we'll read their name. >> one thing the class of 2020 won't be short on, a commencement speaker. oprah, lebron james and others are giving addresses online. >> basically, we're giving every graduating student throughout the world an opportunity to develop a ted talk. >> we need your help, graduates and supporters of graduates to make this year a worldwide celebration of the hopes, the dreams, the ideas and the futures of an entire generation of young people. >> if you're a graduating member of the class of 2020 or a supporter of the graduating class of 2020, ted invites you to record a ted style talk and share it on your social media
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with the #graduatedalk. >> congratulations, class of 2020. we finally made it. >> they're missing this tremendous local experience of getting together with your peers, being celebrated by your family, your community. we can't do that. it's not safe this year to do that. but what we can do is extend an opportunity for every student to weight in for what this new future that we're all building together will look like. >> is that the onion tv or asu? what was that? >> that's my alma mater. >> proud. >> go sun devils. >> got to get creative, kendis. i guess so, but after you erntd spend thousands and thousands, they have to show you walking the stage somehow. yeah. >> today, alex witt, by the way, hosts a town hall called the class of covid-19. it's a virtual town hall that
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focuses on the generation who groo you up after 9/11 and the gra et recession. that's at 1:00 p.m. eastern time here on msnbc. some essential workers are now seeing their salaries slashed. >> plus one company in trouble. another ready to take its place. the popular store making plans to move into struggling malls.
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. welcome back. news this morning, a fresh coronavirus bill passed at the house heading to the senate where it's been deemed dead on arrival. >> a guarantee of extended hazard pay for essential workers, it comes as large retailers, like kroger, target and amazon now reducing salaries in many cases back to minimum wage and unions now accusing companies of putting profit ahead of workers' well being. joining us right now is alexis of yahoo! finance. good morning to you. so the hazard pay is going away, but the hazard is clearly not. so do these companies have reason for changing their salary structures? what other benefits are workers receiving as they risk their lives on the front lines? >> good morning, kendis and lindsay. good to be with you again.
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the covid-19 pandemic is lingering, so why are these companies recinding hazard pay. kroger is going to take off the table the $2 an hour hazard pay. some companies opted not to bump up pay, so they gave out one-time bonuses, like walmart. a lot of the companies rolling back this hazard pay, they say they're still going to be able to give folks added benefits, more sick time off if you need it, continue to go make the workplace more sanitized and healthy for you. but mt. sinai hospital in new york city is going to stop giving its nurses hazard pay.
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it lasted for about four weeks and now it's going to go away. so you're saying, what has changed here, right? the pandemic is still going on. some experts are saying it's gaus we're seeing the gradual lifting of shelter in place orders. the paid premiumses were meant to compensate people going into work even during lockdowns. as those lockdowns begin to expire, that pay is beginning to go away. >> let's talk about some spending habits. people are figuring out how can we afford our grocery bills and our rent or our mortgage. so the last thing on their mind is probably picking out a new romper for the spring. new retail numbers will showing that. losing a report 16.4% in april, of course, experts didn't expect that number to be so high. so where are americans spending their money right now?
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>> apparel, furniture, out the window at least for now. anything that's considered discretionary is just not happening. on the say day that we learned retail sales by a record 16.4% in the month of april, one of our longest running department stores, jcpenney, filed for bankruptcy. this is a 118-year-old store. this stock now trades at 24 cents a share. the company, of course, had problems before this pandemic. it wasn't changing with people's buying habits. online really crushed the company. it went through a number of restructurings ov restructurings over the years. it hopes to be able to come out of this and sell itself because it's going to shut down a number of stores. it could be looking at closing about 150 stores. that will be many more layoffs,
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as well, for people who work at jcpenney. those retailers who were weak going into the pandemic will not be able to survive and those who were stronger have a much better shot at coming through this possibly stronger than before. >> in a filing like this, what happens to the 85,000 employees of jcpenney? >> that is still to be determined. we'll have to see who might want to buy up some of jcpenney's assets and when they do, will they keep those workers on? but right now, we have 30 million people applying for unemployment benefits actively every week. that number could rise by quite a lot. perhaps a few more thousand once jcpenney decides how many stores
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all right. a lot of people searching for solutions. it appears that dogs may be more than just companions during the pandemic. they could be used to keep us safe. >> a trial is under way to see if they can help sniff out coronavirus. >> reporter: we all know the amazing power of a dog's nose. trained to detect bombs at airports, september to seven for
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survivors after earthquakes, and now the fight against coronavirus could get four-legged help, too from dogs like storm and asher. they are medical detection dogs. the hope is that covid-19 creates a special smell that it can detect on people like they did with malaria and some cancers. . >> they have 350 sensory receptors in their noses. >> reporter: if covid-19 has a signature scent, chances are they will be in an airport helping to find it. >> the key is we can find it quickly. >> reporter: they hope it can be sniffed out by july, allowing the dogs to be the new furry detectives on the front lines. >> some sporting events returning to action this weekend
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after being sidelined by coronavirus. the wnba was supposed to launch its season yesterday. those games remain postponed. so what is returning? churchill downs will resume live racing without spectators. and nascar will resume tomorrow without fans after a two-month pause. in germany, the nation's top soccer league is kicking off today in front of empty stadiums. nbc news correspondent carlton is joining us from leipzig, germany. what are the expectations today? >> reporter: hey, good morning. yeah. you see the stadium behind me where the action will get under way in a few hours. and really eyes from the entire sporting world will be on germany. the bundesliga is really the first major sports league to get back up and running during this pandemic. if all goes well, this could serve as a model for other team
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sports. talk about football, baseball, basketball getting up and running again. it has been preparing for this. they released a 50-page document of safety measures. staff and players are being tested twice a week for covid-19. safety measures, once this game gets under way as well. so there is no team handshakes. even goal separations will be to be socially distanced. no piling on top of each other. players will wear masks on the bench, not on the field. no fans allowed in the stadium either. german has a great word for this. they are called ghost games. now, there are some concerns about safety among the players. around a dozen have tested positive in the last days and weeks. many are happy and excited to get back on the field once again. i spoke with one of them, tyler adams, a member of the u.s.
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men's national soccer team and plays for the hometown team here in leipzig. here's what he told me. >> as a professional soccer player you get anxious when you don't have games to work toward on the weekend. now that we are back in training, we are full of excitement. it will be interested with no spectators, the atmosphere, those kinds of things. whenever you're back out on the pitch with the ball at your feet, you're happy. >> reporter: no matter what the score is today, everyone will care more what happens after the game if more players test positive. it could be a model for u.s. sports. >> it seems as we are returning to some sense of normalcy. carl, thank you so much. >> thank you for watching. i'm lindsay riser. >> i'm kendis gibson. have a good rest of your saturday. it is saturday, right? we'll be back tomorrow at 6:00. morrow at 6:00 morrow at 6:00
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first up, too soon for some. not fast enough for others. states reopening despite not meeting federal guidelines. this hour, a look at the risks. the white house putting the pressure for a coronavirus vaccine on the fast track. whether the timeline president trump wants is really possible. plus, thousands of essential workers getting a
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